Re: [opensuse] Zypper disappeared from panel - boost update bug help from IRC channel #suse

2007-11-24 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 01:43:44AM -0500, ka1ifq wrote: > On Friday 23 November 2007 07:00:28 pm Greg Freemyer wrote: > > On Nov 23, 2007 6:49 PM, Tom Patton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 19:33 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote: > > > > Philippe Landau escribió: > > > > > > >

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-24 Thread Ruben Safir
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 06:46:17PM -0600, K.R. Foley wrote: > Ruben Safir wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 04:00:17PM -0600, K.R. Foley wrote: > >> Ruben Safir wrote: > >>> On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 01:03:35PM -0600, K.R. Foley wrote: > Ruben Safir wrote: > > Hello > > > > I've upd

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Jon Clausen
On Fri, 23 Nov, 2007 at 18:06:22 -0800, Robert Smits wrote: > On Friday 23 November 2007 03:17:40 Thomas Goettlicher wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking > > for a radical new design. > > > > This is your chance to share your ideas re

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 07:27 -0600, Bryen wrote: On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 12:17 +0100, Thomas Goettlicher wrote: Hi everyone, we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking for a radical new design. This is your chance to share your ideas regardin

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Terje J. Hanssen wrote: Thomas Goettlicher wrote: Hi everyone, we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking for a radical new design. This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center. Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Bryen wrote: On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 17:58 +0100, Terje J. Hanssen wrote: Thomas Goettlicher wrote: Hi everyone, we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking for a radical new design. This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center. Please feel fr

Re: [opensuse] How to run YaST remotely

2007-11-24 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Terje J. Hanssen wrote: Thomas Goettlicher wrote: Hi everyone, we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking for a radical new design. This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center. Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-24 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Ruben Safir wrote: Hello I've update my kernel to get it to function with new hardware and the modules for my eepro100 and USB mouse aren't working now. Where is the scripts that initiate these things so that I fix this. It doesn't seem to be in the /etc/rc.d/ directory, or at least I can't

Re: [opensuse] Configure nic card on 2 vlans on boot

2007-11-24 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Jake Conk wrote: Hello, I configured my nic card to be 2 seperate vlans with vconfig so now that card is connected to vlan 1 and vlan 2 but the problem is i don't know how to configure suse's nic settings in /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg* to automatically configure the nic on both vlans on boot.

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Jan Tiggy
Aaron Kulkis schrieb: > The current design is perfectly good, and as close to flawless > as it can be for what it is supposed to do. >> This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center. > Keep it how it is! > It works. > Why waste time on unnecessary development (which will

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Jon Clausen
On Sat, 24 Nov, 2007 at 09:18:16 +0100, Jon Clausen wrote: > [gui-layout] > I'm a big fan of tree structures, and the "left-pane shows navigation, right > pane shows content" way of things. > > I think the sysconfig editor tree-structure in the ncurses YaST does a very > good job. actually, let

[opensuse] Dictd again / Redesign of Yast Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Stephan Hegel
Hi all, Hope someone of SuSE is reading this as well ... Recently I posted a thread about a dying dictd. Cristian Rodriguez of SuSE checked this and replied with http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-11/msg01190.html stating clearly that the package is really broken. And sent a CC to somebod

Re: [opensuse] Configure nic card on 2 vlans on boot

2007-11-24 Thread Jake Conk
I don't see any features in YaST that will let me configure the card to be on separate vlans. I'm using the standard way of configuration, am I not seeing something there to configure vlans with YaST? Thanks, - Jake On Nov 23, 2007 8:57 PM, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jake Conk wr

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Clayton
> > The current design is perfectly good, and as close to flawless > > as it can be for what it is supposed to do. > > >> This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center. > > > Keep it how it is! > > It works. > > > Why waste time on unnecessary development (which will then >

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-24 Thread Rajko M.
On Friday 23 November 2007 10:35:15 pm Aaron Kulkis wrote: > If you want to start a new thread, >     then START A NEW THREAD. > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#bespecific If you don't mind, using openSUSE resource that is relevant for this mail list is more appropriate: htt

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Terje J. Hanssen
Aaron Kulkis wrote: > Terje J. Hanssen wrote: >> >> Suggestions: >> >> 1. Frontend GUI client - Backend server: >> The YaST frontend GUI client should be easy and secure to run optional >> on another machine, on a LAN or remotely over Internet. This for all >> admin/config tasks on servers and work

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Rajko M.
On Saturday 24 November 2007 02:27:29 am Jan Tiggy wrote: ... > > Why waste time on unnecessary development (which will then > > have bugs), when the SuSE team *COULD* be using that same > > time, energy, and attention working on things that are > > currently broken. > > Full ACK! Let it be guys an

Re: [opensuse] Problems after an update.

2007-11-24 Thread Erik Jakobsen
Erik Jakobsen wrote: Are there ways to get the network up running again without having Yast ?. Hi. Using ifconfig, I got the network up running again. I did install Yast2 with zypper. But there's some icons lacking if I open Yast 2 What can I do to have them all installed again ?. I have

Re: [opensuse] OT - Linux and open source in use in public administration?

2007-11-24 Thread Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote: > A friend of mine in the UK is looking for examples of Linux and/or > open source being used in public administration.  I've named quite a > few of the German examples, but if anyone's got a list or useful > resources, I'd much appreciate it.  From anywhere. > Many thanks to e

Re: [opensuse] Re: SuSE 10.3 & Cross Over & MathType

2007-11-24 Thread Rajko M.
On Saturday 24 November 2007 02:00:20 am Eberhard Roloff wrote: > Rajko M. wrote: > > On Friday 23 November 2007 06:58:43 pm Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote: > >> I remember downloading some "gift" from MS at the time > >> I installed Cross Over in 2005. But I never had to > >> worry about that agai

Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse] USB Scanner recommendation?]

2007-11-24 Thread jpff
I use it on a VIA Samuel 2 (500HMz). I use remote printing from the AMD64 machine. Never tried connecting it directly ==John ffitch "This research is of insufficient standard" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Benji Weber
On 24/11/2007, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It amounts to nothing more than wasted effort, when there > are more important things to work on. It's good you pointed that out, because it's certainly not possible for different people to work on different things at the same time, and of c

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center - speeding up software updater

2007-11-24 Thread Philippe Landau
Aaron Kulkis wrote: > How do you propose that YAST improve network communication speed? Downloading in parallel. Checking for changes could be done in seconds. Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Ken Schneider
Aaron Kulkis wrote: >>> >> I wholeheartedly second this one! There should definitely be a Yast >> central server deal, or at least a way to connect to Yast on each box >> from a standard remote client. Similar to Novell's ConsoleOne which >> uses eDirectory as the backend. ConsoleOne is portab

Re: [opensuse] Improving software updater (was: Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Philippe Landau
Clayton wrote: > Focus on the badly broken and deficient things first. [...] > Look at what a disaster the online update system has been. It is > dramatically improving, but it still has a VERY long way to go to be > something usable compared to competing distributions. Focus the > developer time

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center - a unified control center

2007-11-24 Thread Philippe Landau
Aaron Kulkis wrote: > Roger Oberholtzer wrote: >> It would be nice if there was a mechanism for other configuration >> systems to at least be started from YaST. Like gnome / kde / compiz >> configurations. Not to duplicate them. But at least to find them. I am >> sure there are many more config pro

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-24 Thread Bryen
On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 23:35 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote: > Ruben Safir wrote: > > Hello > > > > I've update my kernel to get it to function with new hardware and the > > modules for my eepro100 > > and USB mouse aren't working now. Where is the scripts that initiate these > > things so that I >

Re: [opensuse] Problems after an update.

2007-11-24 Thread Erik Jakobsen
Erik Jakobsen wrote: Hi... I did the !failsafe from #suse, and the result is here: ARCH=`rpm -q --queryformat %{arch} aaa_base`;rpm -e boost-doc;rpm -e boost-devel;rpm -e boost;rpm -Uhv http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/suse/$ARCH/libzypp-3.26.2-2.$ARCH.rpm http://downl

[opensuse] About KDE4... final.

2007-11-24 Thread Hudibras
At last! KDE4 can be opened! New 3.96.1 release does really works: it finds kdeinit4. Knowing it's still beta, I hope next releases would be do it finally stable and usable. Great. Bye, AOP -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Billie Walsh
Thomas Goettlicher wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking > > for a radical new design. I agree with everyone else. It doesn't need a "complete" redesign. A few tweaks maybe, but not a whole new design. It's functional. It works. And e

Re: [opensuse] SuSE 10.3 & Cross Over & MathType

2007-11-24 Thread Gavin Chester
On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 16:58 -0800, Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote: > In the end of 2005 I installed CrossOver on my laptop > running SuSE 9.3. It was necessary to produce plenty > of slides (OO and PowerPoint are not completely > compaticle when it comes to formulae containing math > symbols and in

Re: [opensuse] Improving software updater (was: Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Clayton
> > Focus on the badly broken and deficient things first. [...] > > Look at what a disaster the online update system has been. It is > > dramatically improving, but it still has a VERY long way to go to be > > something usable compared to competing distributions. Focus the > > developer time and

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-24 Thread Steve Jeppesen
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 06:10:44 -0600 Bryen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 23:35 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote: > > Ruben Safir wrote: > > > Hello > > > > > > I've update my kernel to get it to function with new hardware and > > > the modules for my eepro100 and USB mouse aren't w

Re: [opensuse] Problems after an update.

2007-11-24 Thread ne . . .
On 24/11/2007, Erik Jakobsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Erik Jakobsen wrote: > > Hi... > > I did the !failsafe from #suse, and the result is here: > > ARCH=`rpm -q --queryformat %{arch} aaa_base`;rpm -e boost-doc;rpm -e > boost-devel;rpm -e boost;rpm -Uhv > http://download.opensuse.org/distributi

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-24 Thread Bryen
On Sat, 2007-11-24 at 07:18 -0600, Steve Jeppesen wrote: > On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 06:10:44 -0600 > Bryen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 23:35 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote: > > > Ruben Safir wrote: > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > I've update my kernel to get it to function wi

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Stephan Hegel
Hi all, Thomas Goettlicher wrote: > Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional) ideas > here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/New_Control_Center I had a look at the pages and in the section Hardware I'm missing the graphics tablets. In fact, it is hidden deep in the "G

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Bob Ewart
Jon Clausen wrote: > On Sat, 24 Nov, 2007 at 09:18:16 +0100, Jon Clausen wrote: > >> [gui-layout] >> I'm a big fan of tree structures, and the "left-pane shows navigation, right >> pane shows content" way of things. >> >> I think the sysconfig editor tree-structure in the ncurses YaST does a very

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-24 Thread Steve Jeppesen
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 07:39:31 -0600 Bryen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2007-11-24 at 07:18 -0600, Steve Jeppesen wrote: > > On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 06:10:44 -0600 > > Bryen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've seen the subject line go from this; > > "Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Cen

Re: [opensuse] Configure nic card on 2 vlans on boot

2007-11-24 Thread Shuai
On Saturday 24 November 2007 12:52:25 am Jake Conk wrote: > Hello, > > I configured my nic card to be 2 seperate vlans with vconfig so now > that card is connected to vlan 1 and vlan 2 but the problem is i don't > know how to configure suse's nic settings in > /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg* to autom

Re: [opensuse] Problems after an update.

2007-11-24 Thread Erik Jakobsen
ne... wrote: > > It tells me that boost-doc & boost-devel were never installed. It also > tells me that boost was not removed due to dependencies. As a result > nothing was installed. It seems to me that you are being asked to > downgrade some rpms. What I would do in your case is download the > n

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-24 Thread Patrick Shanahan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Bryen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-24-07 08:43]: > As long as the poster changed the subject line, I don't care how she > or he created the email in the first place. then *you* are ignorant of threading capable mail clients and searching archives! > S

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread jdd
This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center. two things * I like the way YaST *install* shows the summary of the computer configuration (in two moments, one for each config, before and after the reboot): that is one page with titles as links to the module * I never

[opensuse] Broken Novell Bugzilla

2007-11-24 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, When ever I add an attachment to a bugzilla, it is instantly deleted to the server. I can not complete my bug reports that in "needinfo" state. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-24 Thread K.R. Foley
Ruben Safir wrote: > > Thanks > > I configured it at baseline with make menuconfig. I got the mouse working > but I had to turn on the uhci-hcb module by hand. Then it worked. I'm > guessing > I'm going to need to put that also in the sysconf. This will blow up my > ability to rapidly switc

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Benji Weber wrote: On 24/11/2007, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It amounts to nothing more than wasted effort, when there are more important things to work on. It's good you pointed that out, because it's certainly not possible for different people to work on different things at the

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Terje J. Hanssen wrote: Aaron Kulkis wrote: Terje J. Hanssen wrote: Suggestions: 1. Frontend GUI client - Backend server: The YaST frontend GUI client should be easy and secure to run optional on another machine, on a LAN or remotely over Internet. This for all admin/config tasks on servers an

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center - speeding up software updater

2007-11-24 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Philippe Landau wrote: Aaron Kulkis wrote: How do you propose that YAST improve network communication speed? Downloading in parallel. So, have the repository's disk-drive head bouncing back and forth between multiple files, rather than staying on one track until it's done... no, that does NOT

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Kevin Dupuy wrote: On Nov 23, 2007, at 10:08 PM, Aaron Kulkis wrote: Thomas Goettlicher wrote: Hi everyone, we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking for a radical new design. Why? The current design is perfectly good, and as close to flawless as it can be for wh

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-24 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-11-24 at 06:10 -0600, Bryen wrote: Aaron... what in heck are you talking about??? The subject is Kernel Update and USB Mouse as is plainly clear if you can read the subject line here. What are you jumping on the guy's case for?

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Ken Schneider wrote: Aaron Kulkis wrote: I wholeheartedly second this one! There should definitely be a Yast central server deal, or at least a way to connect to Yast on each box from a standard remote client. Similar to Novell's ConsoleOne which uses eDirectory as the backend. ConsoleOne i

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-24 Thread K.R. Foley
Carlos E. R. wrote: > > The Saturday 2007-11-24 at 06:10 -0600, Bryen wrote: > >> Aaron... what in heck are you talking about??? The subject is Kernel >> Update and USB Mouse as is plainly clear if you can read the subject >> line here. What are you jumping on the guy's case for? > > No, you a

Re: [opensuse] SuSE 10.3 & Cross Over & MathType

2007-11-24 Thread Kevin Donnelly
On Saturday 24 November 2007 13:01, Gavin Chester wrote: > How about forgetting the ms programs altogether? I remember reading that > serious academics use latex for math symbols and technical documents. LaTeX is certainly worth looking at - see, for instance: http://www.andy-roberts.net/misc/lat

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center - speeding up software updater

2007-11-24 Thread Greg Freemyer
On Nov 24, 2007 10:31 AM, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Philippe Landau wrote: > > Aaron Kulkis wrote: > >> How do you propose that YAST improve network communication speed? > > Downloading in parallel. > > So, have the repository's disk-drive head bouncing back and > forth between mult

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-24 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 24 November 2007 07:57, K.R. Foley wrote: > ... > > Is there anything in the netiquette about arrogance and elitism > scaring off the very people these lists exist for? It's a hard balance to strike. If no one corrects things like thread hijacking, inappropriate top-posting or insuffi

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center - speeding up software updater

2007-11-24 Thread Josef Assad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aaron Kulkis wrote: > Philippe Landau wrote: >> Aaron Kulkis wrote: >> Checking for changes could be done in seconds. > I'll stick with the fool-proof way of getting all > the version/update info every time. It's not THAT > long of a wait. josuseshi:

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center - speeding up software updater

2007-11-24 Thread Philippe Landau
Aaron Kulkis wrote: > Philippe Landau wrote: >> Aaron Kulkis wrote: >>> How do you propose that YAST improve network communication speed? >> Downloading in parallel. > > So, have the repository's disk-drive head bouncing back and > forth between multiple files, rather than staying on one > track u

[opensuse] 10.3, Why is my CD ROM not showing?

2007-11-24 Thread Constant Brouerius van nidek
Have changed now completely to 10.3 and was happy until I wanted to burn an copy of the Opensuse 10.3 life for a friend. K3B told me that there seems to be no carom drive installed. Looking further into the problem I also found that an inserted CD or DVD did not show up with the well known quest

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center - speeding up software updater

2007-11-24 Thread Bryen
On Sat, 2007-11-24 at 10:31 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote: > Philippe Landau wrote: > > Aaron Kulkis wrote: > >> How do you propose that YAST improve network communication speed? > > Downloading in parallel. > > So, have the repository's disk-drive head bouncing back and > forth between multiple file

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center - speeding up software updater

2007-11-24 Thread Chris Worley
My $.02: Yast does not need redesigned from scratch. Every application has issues, and every newbie programmer wants to start over from scratch. When they finish, they want to start over again. "The grass is always greener on the other side" (stateside saying). Add that to every newbie progra

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center - speeding up software updater

2007-11-24 Thread Benji Weber
On 24/11/2007, Chris Worley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My $.02: > > Yast does not need redesigned from scratch. > > Every application has issues, and every newbie programmer wants to > start over from scratch. When they finish, they want to start over > again. "The grass is always greener on th

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Benji Weber
On 24/11/2007, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > YaST is CURRENTLY DEBUGGED. What's the point of > doing a whole re-write, and then having to debug > it again (which if I remember correctly, took > about a year) No-one suggested a complete re-write. Perhaps next time you could take the tr

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-24 Thread K.R. Foley
Randall R Schulz wrote: > On Saturday 24 November 2007 07:57, K.R. Foley wrote: >> ... >> >> Is there anything in the netiquette about arrogance and elitism >> scaring off the very people these lists exist for? > > It's a hard balance to strike. If no one corrects things like thread > hijacking,

Re: [opensuse] 10.3, Why is my CD ROM not showing?

2007-11-24 Thread Don Raboud
On Saturday 24 November 2007 09:17, Constant Brouerius van nidek wrote: > Have changed now completely to 10.3 and was happy until I wanted to burn an > copy of the Opensuse 10.3 life for a friend. > K3B told me that there seems to be no carom drive installed. Looking > further into the problem I al

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Bryen
On Sat, 2007-11-24 at 16:39 +, Benji Weber wrote: > On 24/11/2007, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > YaST is CURRENTLY DEBUGGED. What's the point of > > doing a whole re-write, and then having to debug > > it again (which if I remember correctly, took > > about a year) > > No-one s

Re: [opensuse] 10.3, Why is my CD ROM not showing?

2007-11-24 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Saturday 24 November 2007, Constant Brouerius van nidek wrote: > Have changed now completely to 10.3 and was happy until I wanted to burn an > copy of the Opensuse 10.3 life for a friend. > K3B told me that there seems to be no carom drive installed. Looking > further into the problem I also fou

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center - speeding up software updater

2007-11-24 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 01:01:18PM +0100, Philippe Landau wrote: > Aaron Kulkis wrote: > > How do you propose that YAST improve network communication speed? > Downloading in parallel. > Checking for changes could be done in seconds. Actually the check just retrieves the repomd.xml (a 1kb file) and

Re: [opensuse] Problems after an update.

2007-11-24 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 01:17:39PM +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote: > Erik Jakobsen wrote: > > Hi... > > I did the !failsafe from #suse, and the result is here: > > ARCH=`rpm -q --queryformat %{arch} aaa_base`;rpm -e boost-doc;rpm -e > boost-devel;rpm -e boost;rpm -Uhv > http://download.opensuse.or

Re: [opensuse] Broken Novell Bugzilla

2007-11-24 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 04:32:25PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > Hi, > > When ever I add an attachment to a bugzilla, it is instantly deleted to > the server. I can not complete my bug reports that in "needinfo" state. Can you file a bug against the Bugzilla Product? Ciao, Marcus -- To unsub

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-24 Thread Mike
On Saturday 24 November 2007 17:07, Randall R Schulz wrote: > > There are better and worse ways to ride herd on the newbies, but the > job must be done. Unfortunately, the guy that hijacked the thread isn't a newbie by any means. Do a google on his name. He's been around for ages. You'd think he

Re: [opensuse] 10.3, Why is my CD ROM not showing?

2007-11-24 Thread Kevin Donnelly
On Saturday 24 November 2007 16:17, Constant Brouerius van nidek wrote: > Could somebody see me through my search for my CD ROM drive? I'm not running 10.3, but I know that there must be some sort of bug in 10.2 (perhaps only exposed as a result of an update of some app) which means that the CD

Re: [opensuse] Broken Novell Bugzilla

2007-11-24 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-11-24 at 18:20 +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote: When ever I add an attachment to a bugzilla, it is instantly deleted to the server. I can not complete my bug reports that in "needinfo" state. Can you file a bug against the Bugzilla

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center - a unified control center

2007-11-24 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Sat, 2007-11-24 at 13:10 +0100, Philippe Landau wrote: > Aaron Kulkis wrote: > > Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > >> It would be nice if there was a mechanism for other configuration > >> systems to at least be started from YaST. Like gnome / kde / compiz > >> configurations. Not to duplicate them. B

Re: [opensuse] 10.3, Why is my CD ROM not showing?

2007-11-24 Thread Philippe Landau
Kevin Donnelly wrote: > LOL - this just happened to me! Before beginning this post, I'd put a CD in > to rip, and I was told there was no CDROM attached! I ran the above, and the > rip works fine. Definitely a bug somewhere, and a very annoying one too. Suse just doesn't like your music :-) Co

Re: [opensuse] 10.3, Why is my CD ROM not showing?

2007-11-24 Thread Constant Brouerius van nidek
On Saturday 24 November 2007 23:57:51 Don Raboud wrote: > /usr/sbin/hwinfo | grep cdrom Thanks for this idea. I ran hwinfo without grep and overlooked what it said about the cdrom. No idea what it means but there will be certainly somebody more knowledgeable on the list ;). When I reboot whit a b

Re: [opensuse] 10.3, Why is my CD ROM not showing?

2007-11-24 Thread Don Raboud
On Saturday 24 November 2007 10:56, Constant Brouerius van nidek wrote: > > /usr/sbin/hwinfo | grep cdrom > > probe = 0x138fc4aa17fff9fffe (+memory +pci +isapnp +net +floppy +misc > +misc.serial +misc.par +misc.floppy +serial +cpu +bios +monitor +mouse > +scsi +usb -usb.mods +modem +modem.usb +

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center - speeding up software updater

2007-11-24 Thread Rajko M.
On Saturday 24 November 2007 10:21:37 am Bryen wrote: > I think the way to compromise here is to add an additional option.  Mark > certain repositories as being "checkable for updates."  If I'm using > updater, then only repositories that are enabled and marked as > updateable would be checked.  O

[opensuse] Can Wolfgang Stock be removed from the list, please?

2007-11-24 Thread Kevin Donnelly
Could the list maintainers remove the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the list, please? I'm getting a bounce from him every time I post, and it's a bit annoying. -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly www.thinkopen.co.uk - blog www.kyfieithu.co.uk - KDE yn Gymraeg www.klebran.org.

[opensuse] X without any manager?

2007-11-24 Thread Klaus Vink Slott
Hi I playing around with this game Eve (a windows thing packaged with cedega) which takes over the whole screen when started. I cant find any way to minimize the game when running - there seems to be no access my KDE desktop whithout exiting the game. I can do a second login using KDE "Change

Re: [opensuse] Problems after an update.

2007-11-24 Thread Erik Jakobsen
That this was totally unnecessary and you still had libzypp and zypper installed just fine. Please please please forget above instructions, they are not necessary for you. Ciao, Marcus Thanks Marcus. Then what to do now ? /Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bryen wrote: > > > Now that I think about it. How about an additional Help sub-function > where administrators can enter notes about a particular module/function? > That way, in a multiple-administrator environment, we can keep better > track of information related to a module. > > I conjure

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Myrosia Dzikovska
> Hi, Thomas. Thanks for asking us about what we'd like to see. > > All I really want is for YAST to be faster, especially at downloading updates > from repositories. And why does it have to download a whole new list if I > used it earlier in the day? > > I'm not convinced I WANT a radical new desi

Re: [opensuse] 10.3, Why is my CD ROM not showing?

2007-11-24 Thread Peter Van Lone
On Nov 24, 2007 12:22 PM, Don Raboud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That looks strange. > > Are you running the 2.6.22.12-0.1-default kernel (uname -r)? > What happens if you run the same command as root? > > Did you try Kevin's suggestion? I have to jump in here: I have had the same issues as the

Re: [opensuse] CD titles artist how to?

2007-11-24 Thread Michael Skiba
Am Samstag, 24. November 2007 00:53:39 schrieb Teruel de Campo MD: > So far I have not been able to read it from any of the software players > like amarok xine etc. Unfortunately I was missinformed, amarok doesn't support CD Text - I'm sorry (just asked a few hours ago, they confirmed that it on

[opensuse] Re: USB camera detected, but refuses to download images

2007-11-24 Thread Myrosia Dzikovska
This started to work way better after the latest update, which brought in a newer version of libgphoto2. I still have to try several times before I can get Digikam to connect, but it is finally usable again. On Nov 10, 2007 4:12 PM, Myrosia Dzikovska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a Canon S60

Re: [opensuse] KSSH on OpenSuSE 10.3.

2007-11-24 Thread Michael Skiba
Am Freitag, 23. November 2007 19:16:31 schrieb Jerry Feldman: > I know that kssh has not been shipped with 10.2 or 10.3, but my > original session home configuration had 2 windows opened up as kssh > windows. Since I installed OpenSuSE 10.3 (as a clean install), I still > have 1 window that opens u

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-11-24 at 10:54 +0100, Terje J. Hanssen wrote: Suggestions: 1. Frontend GUI client - Backend server: The YaST frontend GUI client should be easy and secure to run optional on another machine, on a LAN or remotely over Internet. Th

Re: [opensuse] KSSH on OpenSuSE 10.3.

2007-11-24 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:32:42 +0100 Michael Skiba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Freitag, 23. November 2007 19:16:31 schrieb Jerry Feldman: > > I know that kssh has not been shipped with 10.2 or 10.3, but my > > original session home configuration had 2 windows opened up as kssh > > windows. Since

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-11-23 at 07:27 -0600, Bryen wrote: ... What frustrates me personally is the lack of documentation/explanation within Yast modules. For example, the other day, I posted a query here on the mailing list asking where I could go to ge

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-24 Thread Ruben Safir
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 04:53:24PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > The Saturday 2007-11-24 at 06:10 -0600, Bryen wrote: > > >Aaron... what in heck are you talking about??? The subject is Kernel > >Update and USB Mouse as is plainly clear if you

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-24 Thread Ruben Safir
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 09:37:44AM -0600, K.R. Foley wrote: > Ruben Safir wrote: > > > > > Thanks > > > > I configured it at baseline with make menuconfig. I got the mouse working > > but I had to turn on the uhci-hcb module by hand. Then it worked. I'm > > guessing > > I'm going to need to

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-11-24 at 19:13 -, Myrosia Dzikovska wrote: I second this. I would like to be able to tell it to update or not to update the repositories at the time when I start the software installation module, and have an option to tell it

Re: [opensuse] 10.3, Why is my CD ROM not showing?

2007-11-24 Thread Don Raboud
On Saturday 24 November 2007 12:16, Peter Van Lone wrote: > I have to jump in here: I have had the same issues as the OP, but with > mutliple versions of suse. My first version was 9.3, installed on an > ASUS based clone notebook. Then SLED on the same notebook, then SLED > on an HP nw8440 notebook

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Myrosia Dzikovska
> > And having the "abort" button really work, and instantly. It is impossible > to abort YOU in mid-download-repos-phase, unless you kill it - which means > you later have to find the run/pid file and remove it manually. > Oh, yes - meant to mention this, too. > Perhaps you can do that from the

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update and USB Mouse on SuSE 9.3

2007-11-24 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-11-24 at 14:55 -0500, Ruben Safir wrote: No, you are mistaken. While Ruben posted a legitimate question, he hijacked a thread to do so, and that is against netiquette. I hijacked my own thread! ROFL No, you hijacked Bryen's

Re: [opensuse] Can Wolfgang Stock be removed from the list, please?

2007-11-24 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-11-24 at 18:22 -, Kevin Donnelly wrote: Could the list maintainers remove the following address: Then email the list maintainer, not the list. Yes, you do know his address: it is in the confirmation email when you subscribe

Re: [opensuse] About KDE4... final.

2007-11-24 Thread Kevin Dupuy
On Nov 24, 2007, at 6:50 AM, Hudibras wrote: At last! KDE4 can be opened! New 3.96.1 release does really works: it finds kdeinit4. Knowing it's still beta, I hope next releases would be do it finally stable and usable. Great. Bye, AOP -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additi

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Kevin Dupuy
On Nov 24, 2007, at 2:27 AM, Jan Tiggy wrote: Aaron Kulkis schrieb: The current design is perfectly good, and as close to flawless as it can be for what it is supposed to do. This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center. Keep it how it is! It works. Why waste

Re: [opensuse] 10.3, Why is my CD ROM not showing?

2007-11-24 Thread d_garbage
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:17:00 -, Constant Brouerius van nidek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Looking into the hardware list of Yast I did not find any trace of a CD/DVD ROM. I know I have used the DVD to install 10.3 and I know that everything worked fine as I was burning my first copy of t

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Kevin Dupuy
On Nov 24, 2007, at 6:51 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: Thomas Goettlicher wrote: Hi everyone, we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking for a radical new design. I agree with everyone else. It doesn't need a "complete" redesign. A few tweaks maybe, but not a whole

Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center

2007-11-24 Thread Kevin Dupuy
On Nov 24, 2007, at 8:07 AM, Stephan Hegel wrote: Hi all, Thomas Goettlicher wrote: Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional) ideas here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/New_Control_Center I had a look at the pages and in the section Hardware I'm missing the g

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