On 2006-11-29 05:07, Philipp Thomas wrote:
> * James Knott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20061129 00:23]:
>
>
>> Given that Linux, including SUSE is open source, such "hooks" will be
>> visible. Novell cannot sneak anything into GPL code, that won't be noticed.
>>
>
> Just forget it. Folks like tha
* James Knott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20061129 00:23]:
> Given that Linux, including SUSE is open source, such "hooks" will be
> visible. Novell cannot sneak anything into GPL code, that won't be noticed.
Just forget it. Folks like that will never allow sane thinking to come into
play.
Philipp
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M Harris wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 November 2006 16:18, Anders Johansson wrote:
>
>> so not only would it be against the GPL, it would be against the law, and
>> set Novell (not anyone else) up for a law suit
>>
>> Plain enough?
>>
> Patented code is not the issue (for me, as far as trus
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 16:18, Anders Johansson wrote:
> so not only would it be against the GPL, it would be against the law, and
> set Novell (not anyone else) up for a law suit
>
> Plain enough?
Patented code is not the issue (for me, as far as trust is concerned)...
Novell
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 22:59, M Harris wrote:
> On Sunday 26 November 2006 00:08, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > Especially: We will not - and we cannot
> > since it would violate the GPL - add knowingly patented code to GPL
> > code.
>
> We used to have an old joke back in my IBM days... "Ho
On Sunday 26 November 2006 00:08, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> Especially: We will not - and we cannot
> since it would violate the GPL - add knowingly patented code to GPL
> code.
We used to have an old joke back in my IBM days... "How can you tell if
your
manager is lying to you...?"
On Monday 27 November 2006 01:46, Daniel Bauer wrote:
> On Sunday 26 November 2006 22:27, JB wrote:
> > you ass? Get it out of this
>
> Ass, jerk, ... so you are very proud of your vocabulary?
>
> I agree that politics should mostly be kept off this list, but the same
> applies to vulgarity. Plea
On Sunday 26 November 2006 22:27, JB wrote:
> you ass? Get it out of this
Ass, jerk, ... so you are very proud of your vocabulary?
I agree that politics should mostly be kept off this list, but the same
applies to vulgarity. Please control yourself before you post.
thanks a lot.
Daniel
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On Sun, 2006-11-26 at 15:32 -0600, Rajko M wrote:
> On Sunday 26 November 2006 13:56, jdd wrote:
> > Rajko M a écrit :
> > >> Until then, have they begun pre-release orders for the boxed 10.2?
> > >
> > > Good question :-D
> >
> > don't know, but my azureus bittorent for the 5 rc1 cd's have
> > muc
On Sunday 26 November 2006 13:56, jdd wrote:
> Rajko M a écrit :
> >> Until then, have they begun pre-release orders for the boxed 10.2?
> >
> > Good question :-D
>
> don't know, but my azureus bittorent for the 5 rc1 cd's have
> much more clients than the beta one...
>
> may be thats also an answe
On Sunday 26 November 2006 00:38, Basil Chupin wrote:
> Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:
> > On Nov 26, 2006, at 12:03 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
> >>> "Proof by accusation and innuendo" doesn't hold much sway anywhere,
> >>> except in a campaign of FUD.
> >>
> >> And when deciding to invade nations like I
On Sun, 2006-11-26 at 17:38 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:
> Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:
> > On Nov 26, 2006, at 12:03 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
> >>> "Proof by accusation and innuendo" doesn't hold much sway anywhere,
> >>> except in a campaign of FUD.
> >>
> >> And when deciding to invade nations like Ir
On Sunday 26 November 2006 00:03, Basil Chupin wrote:
At least discussing/arguing about the Novell/M$ deal was more on topic.
Don't be such a jerk.
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On Sunday 26 November 2006 03:33, Jacques wrote:
> Hello All
> Don't you see that all that's happening was planned from the beginning
> by Novell's heads; the first day they bought SuSE; they had a plan to
> destroy it
What ARE you smoking?
Thats the silliest thing I've ever heard. One might att
Rajko M a écrit :
Until then, have they begun pre-release orders for the boxed 10.2?
Good question :-D
don't know, but my azureus bittorent for the 5 rc1 cd's have
much more clients than the beta one...
may be thats also an answer...
:-)
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On Sunday 26 November 2006 10:28, Tom Patton wrote:
> If we survive long enough, our grandkids might learn the truth.
That is fine remark.
The whole dust that we have now will be for a long time settled and irelevant.
No one will care about todays hot topic.
> Until then, have they begun pre
On Sun, 2006-11-26 at 00:18 -0600, Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:
> On Nov 26, 2006, at 12:03 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
> >> "Proof by accusation and innuendo" doesn't hold much sway anywhere,
> >> except in a campaign of FUD.
> >
> > And when deciding to invade nations like Iraq.
>
> U.S. politics shoul
Hello All
Don't you see that all that's happening was planned from the beginning
by Novell's heads; the first day they bought SuSE; they had a plan to
destroy it and don't be dreamers opensuse is only a leurre it won't
survive as a community as long as Novell has destroyed everything and of
course
On Sunday 26 November 2006 13:33, Jacques wrote:
> Don't you see that all that's happening was planned from the beginning
> by Novell's heads; the first day they bought SuSE; they had a plan to
> destroy it
You do realise that you are accusing the Novell management of a major felony.
If they real
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Jacques wrote:
...
> Don't you see that all that's happening was planned from the beginning
> by Novell's heads; the first day they bought SuSE; they had a plan to
> destroy it and don't be dreamers opensuse is only a leurre it won't
Destroy it ?
That
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 01:17:48 -0500
Fred A. Miller wrote:
> It's a MAJOR issue of mammoth proportions that isn't just going to go
> away on it's own, nor dissappear if ignored.
right, not ignored but read about elsewhere.
The same place I'm going - elsewhere.
enjoy
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Fred A. Miller a écrit :
On Saturday 25 November 2006 14:22, Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:
On Nov 25, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 10:55 -0600, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
so do tell, what is this list for then?
Discussions about suse/novell l
On Saturday 25 November 2006 14:22, Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:
> On Nov 25, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 10:55 -0600, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
> >> so do tell, what is this list for then?
> >
> > Discussions about suse/novell linux. In my opinion, discussions
> >
On Sunday 26 November 2006 03:48, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> The best way to accelerate Bruce Perens is to give him a computer running
> Windows.
ROFL!
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Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:
On Nov 26, 2006, at 12:38 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:
On Nov 26, 2006, at 12:03 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
"Proof by accusation and innuendo" doesn't hold much sway anywhere,
except in a campaign of FUD.
And when deciding to invade nations like I
On 2006-11-26 00:18, Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:
> On Nov 26, 2006, at 12:03 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>> "Proof by accusation and innuendo" doesn't hold much sway anywhere,
>>> except in a campaign of FUD.
>>
>> And when deciding to invade nations like Iraq.
>
> U.S. politics should NOT be injected i
On Nov 26, 2006, at 12:38 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:
On Nov 26, 2006, at 12:03 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
"Proof by accusation and innuendo" doesn't hold much sway anywhere,
except in a campaign of FUD.
And when deciding to invade nations like Iraq.
U.S. politics shoul
Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:
On Nov 26, 2006, at 12:03 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
"Proof by accusation and innuendo" doesn't hold much sway anywhere,
except in a campaign of FUD.
And when deciding to invade nations like Iraq.
U.S. politics should NOT be injected into this conversation .. that DOE
On Nov 26, 2006, at 12:03 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
"Proof by accusation and innuendo" doesn't hold much sway anywhere,
except in a campaign of FUD.
And when deciding to invade nations like Iraq.
U.S. politics should NOT be injected into this conversation .. that
DOES belong on the OT list. I
Joey Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Monday 20 November 2006 14:41, steve reilly wrote:
>
>> for those of you who are also going to leave take notice, most of
>> us are here for help with suse. not to read everyday about how bad you
>> think the microsoft deal was, or what your p
Darryl Gregorash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> All predicated on Bruce Perens's assumption (and apparently that of Eben
> Moglen as well) that Novell either already has inserted or has plans to
> insert patented material into GPL-licenced software, particularly the
> kernel.
Let me reaffirm that
On Sunday 26 November 2006 02:22, Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:
> On Nov 25, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 10:55 -0600, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
> >> so do tell, what is this list for then?
> >
> > Discussions about suse/novell linux. In my opinion, discussions
> > a
Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 2006-11-25 18:35, Bryan S. Tyson wrote:
I invite all "trolls" to sign Bruce Perens' open letter to Novell's CEO Ron
Hovsepian:
All predicated on Bruce Perens's assumption (and apparently that of Eben
Moglen as well) that Novell either already has inserted or h
On 2006-11-25 18:35, Bryan S. Tyson wrote:
>
> I invite all "trolls" to sign Bruce Perens' open letter to Novell's CEO Ron
> Hovsepian:
>
>
All predicated on Bruce Perens's assumption (and apparently that of Eben
Moglen as well) that Novell either already has inserted or has plans to
insert p
Steve Jeppesen wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 19:35:52 -0500
Bryan S. Tyson wrote:
Calling someone a troll just for saying something negative is silly.
Novell is perfect, the angel of Linux? Nothing Novell does should be
questioned? Novell can join with Microsoft and make moves that impact
the whol
On Saturday 25 November 2006 19:35, Bryan S. Tyson wrote:
> On Saturday 25 November 2006 10:11, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
> > > Then please tell me where else I can complain about it? This is as
> > > official a SuSE user community as can be found.
> >
> > if this is what this mailing list has become -
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 19:35:52 -0500
Bryan S. Tyson wrote:
> Calling someone a troll just for saying something negative is silly.
> Novell is perfect, the angel of Linux? Nothing Novell does should be
> questioned? Novell can join with Microsoft and make moves that impact
> the whole future of open
On Saturday 25 November 2006 10:11, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
> > Then please tell me where else I can complain about it? This is as
> > official a SuSE user community as can be found.
> if this is what this mailing list has become - then this troll is outta
> here.
Calling someone a troll just for sa
On Saturday 25 November 2006 12:27, Renegade Penguin wrote:
> Thanks, Felix.
>
> One of the hallmarks of losing any argument is failing to address any
> of the points made, and attacking something else. (Not you, Felix.)
You were remarking not about the substance of some matter of discussion,
bu
On Nov 25, 2006, at 3:23 PM, John Andersen wrote:
With any proper mail reader, you can close (or delete) entire threads
with one click. With Kmail, you can even assign an entire thread to
ignore status, where it will not be shown expanded.
Its ridiculously to bypass those parts of the list yo
On Saturday 25 November 2006 07:34, Primm wrote:
> I actually _use_ 10.1 to make a living and so have
> little time to wade through the list politician posts. I
"wade through"
There's that phrase again...
You use Kmail.
Right click the top message in this thread.
Select Ignore thread.
Use the
On Saturday 25 November 2006 10:22, Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:
> Anyway. The deal that Novell and Microsoft signed is very much ON
> topic. And if you people want to get back to the way this list was ..
> I'd agree that actually answering questions instead of RTFM or check
> the archives would
Thanks, Felix.
One of the hallmarks of losing any argument is failing to address any of
the points made, and attacking something else. (Not you, Felix.)
While I typically sign with the "RP" - anyone is free to sign however
they wish.
I know of one particular Linux contributor who signs wit
On 2006/11/25 10:28 (GMT-0800) Randall R Schulz apparently typed:
> On Saturday 25 November 2006 10:00, Renegade Penguin wrote:
>> Not afraid - I've always signed like that. =)
> Your ilk are called anonymous cowards for a reason: You're too cowardly
> to publicly associate your identity with
On Nov 25, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 10:55 -0600, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
so do tell, what is this list for then?
Discussions about suse/novell linux. In my opinion, discussions
about the
future of that is more or less on topic, even if I dislike the t
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The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 10:55 -0600, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
> so do tell, what is this list for then?
Discussions about suse/novell linux. In my opinion, discussions about the
future of that is more or less on topic, even if I dislike the tone o
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The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 17:34 +0100, Primm wrote:
> Would it be possible to have a list just for people who use SuSE at work or
> for other useful stuff? People who actually do something with it? Like solve
> problems about installation or how t
On Saturday 25 November 2006 10:00, Renegade Penguin wrote:
> Not afraid - I've always signed like that. =)
>
> RP
Your ilk are called anonymous cowards for a reason: You're too cowardly
to publicly associate your identity with your remarks.
Randall Schulz
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Not afraid - I've always signed like that. =)
RP
Randall R Schulz wrote:
You comment on how discussions occur in this public forum while hiding
behind a pseudonym. Why don't you sign your name? What are you afraid
of?
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Dear AC,
On Saturday 25 November 2006 09:31, Renegade Penguin wrote:
>
>
> My 2¢, adjusted for inflation.
>
> RP
You comment on how discussions occur in this public forum while hiding
behind a pseudonym. Why don't you sign your name? What are you afraid
of?
Randall Schulz
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> Carlos E. R. wrote:
> So do tell, what is this list for then?
>
> I have to agree with steve reilly.
Why can't we have it back like it used to be in, say 6.2? All we used to do
then is talk about how to install truetype fonts or help newbies like myself
ease into the new system, or help the g
I am top-posting because there are some things summarized below that are
relevant.
List admins: please realize that once in a while major events happen
that get discussed in a broader sense. Take for instance the events of
September 11 in the US. This event transcended racial, gender,
soci
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 16:49:28 +0100 (CET)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 10:29 -0500, steve reilly wrote:
>
> > Its just hard to have to sift through all the complaints, and get
> > to the people who really are just asking for help on the "opensuse"
> > list, which is what it was
On Saturday 25 November 2006 16:29, steve reilly wrote:
> On Saturday 25 November 2006 10:16, Joey Kelly wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Its just hard to have to sift through all the complaints, and get to the
> people who really are just asking for help on the "opensuse" list, which is
> what it was designed f
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The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 10:29 -0500, steve reilly wrote:
> Its just hard to have to sift through all the complaints, and get to the
> people who really are just asking for help on the "opensuse" list, which is
> what it was designed for.
>
> The
On 11/21/06, columbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I choose to run a 'tainted' kernel. I choose to not follow some FOSS or
even FLOSS inspired idealistic propaganda. I choose to mix proprietary,
free and open source programs liberally within my environment. I choose
to tailor my computer environ
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On Saturday 25 November 2006 10:16, Joey Kelly wrote:
Hi,
Its just hard to have to sift through all the complaints, and get to the
people who really are just asking for help on the "opensuse" list, which is
what it was designed for.
The "OT" or o
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 09:16:59 -0600
Joey Kelly wrote:
> Then please tell me where else I can complain about it? This is as
> official a SuSE user community as can be found.
if this is what this mailing list has become - then this troll is outta
here.
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On Monday 20 November 2006 14:41, steve reilly wrote:
> for those of you who are also going to leave take notice, most of
> us are here for help with suse. not to read everyday about how bad you
> think the microsoft deal was, or what your personal opinions are about it.
> these needle
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 04:55, Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
> sorry to disappoint you, but I don't think you'll get the whole
> community to such a childish behaviour. If you don't like something,
> it's up to you to decide what you want, spread the word. BUT: never ever
> expect everybody to f
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