Re: [opensuse-factory] default packages

2006-11-25 Thread jdd
Hans Witvliet a écrit : I find a lot of packages installed, which might be very nice and helpfull, but i did not select them. they are in three catagories: and why so many gnome libraries? even icons! on a text install! the install is given for 800mb, but final is 1.1gb on my computer jdd

Re: [opensuse-factory] default packages

2006-11-25 Thread Andreas Hanke
jdd schrieb: and why so many gnome libraries? even icons! on a text install! This has been noticed very late ;-) Call the packages by name (not gnome libraries, but e.g. glib2), find out where the dependency comes from and try to find out whether the dependency is necessary. If it is, do

[opensuse-factory] for 10.3 - strings too large to display

2006-11-25 Thread jdd
This was seen on 640x480 screen, text mode I think this will not be for present one, but must be adressed, probably by a library patch. it's probably worst in french, but impact also the URL display. I speak of the width of many message strings on a small display, that are nearly un

Re: [opensuse-factory] default packages

2006-11-25 Thread jdd
Andreas Hanke a écrit : jdd schrieb: and why so many gnome libraries? even icons! on a text install! This has been noticed very late ;-) Call the packages by name (not gnome libraries, but e.g. glib2), find out where the dependency comes from and try to find out whether the dependency is

Re: [opensuse-factory] default packages

2006-11-25 Thread Andreas Hanke
jdd schrieb: there are a lot, and I did see gnome on the display :-( A lot is not enough, I need the exact package names in order to find out where the dependency chain starts and if it is legitimate. If the problem consists mainly of seeing the string gnome on the display, case closed there

Re: [opensuse-factory] default packages

2006-11-25 Thread jdd
Andreas Hanke a écrit : Which documentation packages? Package names, please. easy: /usr/share/doc but: /usr/share/doc du -sh 87M so I don't know is this is worth the hassle to don't install the doc (it's always possible to remove it afterward) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net

[opensuse-factory] what kind of problem is this (RC1)

2006-11-25 Thread jdd
after the text mode install, I was in the way of installing X (only basic, I had no room for more). When I was asked to look at the exess gnome packages (see elsewhere on this list), I went to the computer, it was asking for the second cd. I hit cancel, go back to the yast software template

Re: [opensuse-factory] default packages

2006-11-25 Thread Andreas Hanke
jdd schrieb: 2006-11-24 20:02:03 gnome-filesystem-0.1-287.i586.rpm installed ok This is a fake package that contains mostly empty directories and is 1.3 kB in size. Ignore it and do as if it would not contain the string gnome in its name - it might vanish very soon. 2006-11-24 20:51:55

Re: [opensuse-factory] default packages

2006-11-25 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Hans Witvliet [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 25. 2006 02:42]: Perhaps i should enter it as a requested enhancement ;-) When wanting a bare minimal system, (by selecting text-mode only) i expect a real-minimum, however We had this discussion on opensuse-factory before ;-) Real-minimum means

Re: [opensuse-factory] default packages

2006-11-25 Thread Andreas Hanke
Andreas Hanke schrieb: This is a general problem with many GNOME packages, all hand-written dependencies should be reviewed because they are really old cruft and things have changed. Note that I have another bug pending (#223387) that is partly responsible for excess dependencies among

Re: [opensuse-factory] default packages

2006-11-25 Thread jdd
Andreas Hanke a écrit : (3) Remove MozillaFirefox from the default installation. remember we speak of _text_ minimal install, what does mozilla do here? problem is... I can't reliably help here. when you asked me to report these gnome things, I had already begun to install X (see what

[opensuse-factory] sorry, where are patterns?

2006-11-25 Thread jdd
I feel dumb, but I don't see any difference between the RC1 yast and any previous (pre 10.2) one... the pattern menu is very small and mostly there is no tree (text mode ncurse yast), so what? did I miss something? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net

Re: [opensuse-factory] xen

2006-11-25 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 06:36 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Hans Witvliet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Im not sure i would call it a feature, let even alone enter it into bugzilla.. With B2, selecting minimal, text only PLUS XEN == kernel-xen got selected and installed == However, the

[opensuse-factory] 10.2 RC1 is out?

2006-11-25 Thread Juan Erbes
Using smart or the yast update tool, with the repo http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/ The 2 tools do'nt find any new package. I mean the Metadata is'nt update. If I open http://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-RC1/ I got: Forbidden You

Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug or feature?

2006-11-25 Thread Robby (M9.)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcel Hilzinger schreef: Am Freitag, 24. November 2006 13:18 schrieb Stanislav Visnovsky: Dňa Pi 24. November 2006 12:41 Volker Kuhlmann napísal: However, if there is internet connection I can also choose: SLP, FTP, HTTP, HTTPS, SMB/CIFS, NFS.

[opensuse-factory] [First try] Installing openSUSE 10.2 RC1 on a T60 Thinkpad

2006-11-25 Thread James PEARSON
Hello all, It's the weekend, I have some space time and I want openSUSE 10.2 to work on my T60 Thinkpad (Model 1952 W5R) so I installed openSUSE 10.2 RC1 on it. Note 1: My T60 has a Intel Centrino Duo 1.83 cpu with 2 Go of RAM and a Mobile Intel 945GM Express video chipset. Note 2:

Re: [opensuse-factory] 45 minutes for Installation

2006-11-25 Thread Robby (M9.)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcel Hilzinger schreef: Am Freitag, 24. November 2006 12:29 schrieb jdd: Marcel Hilzinger a écrit : Yes, but it would be better to be wrong the other way round. So saying it takes 30 minutes and doing it within 35 minutes is better, than

Re: [opensuse-factory] Installation source handling in 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Robby (M9.)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcel Hilzinger schreef: Just a proposal for 10.3, as for 10.2 it's too late anyway: I think the installation source module should not fetch any other data then the source name. It should just put the right info on the right place, like

Re: [opensuse-factory] Installation source handling in 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Robby (M9.)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Klaus Kaempf schreef: * Marcel Hilzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 24. 2006 14:13]: Just a proposal for 10.3, as for 10.2 it's too late anyway: I think the installation source module should not fetch any other data then the source name. It should

Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2

2006-11-25 Thread Robby (M9.)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eberhard Moenkeberg schreef: Hi, On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote: I've thought a bit about how to structure - and name - the directories for openSUSE 10.2 and like to get your feedback and suggestions for improvement. Goals

Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2

2006-11-25 Thread Robby (M9.)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hugo Costelha schreef: On Friday 24 November 2006 14:53, Adrian Schröter wrote: Am Friday 24 November 2006 15:03 schrieb Eberhard Moenkeberg: Hi, On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote: I've thought a bit about how to structure - and name -

[opensuse-factory] RC1 install fails on new PC

2006-11-25 Thread Markus Koßmann
Today I got a new pc with ASUS M2NPV-MX motherboard.CDROM is HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H10N. Installation from RC1 x86_64 CD set works fine ( including media check for all CDs) until first media change. When the messagebox asking for CD2 pops up , the dvd drive is still locked. You need to click

Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2

2006-11-25 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Freitag, 24. November 2006 14:47 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: I've thought a bit about how to structure - and name - the directories for openSUSE 10.2 and like to get your feedback and suggestions for improvement. Goals = My goals with the restructuring are: * Clear naming - no

[opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Alexey Eremenko
Hi all ! As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules that I would like to see: 1. Swap Manager (Yast GUI to manage swap files partitions) 2. FTP Server (Yast GUI to manage vsFTPd) 3. SSH Server (Yast

Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Richard Bos
Op zaterdag 25 november 2006 19:35, schreef Alexey Eremenko: What do you think ? open bug reports (type = enhancement) and see what you get (let voting decide). -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless - To

Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 install fails on new PC

2006-11-25 Thread Robby (M9.)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Markus Koßmann schreef: all CDs) until first media change. When the messagebox asking for CD2 pops up , the dvd drive is still locked. You need to click the eject button. This happened to me yesterday, with Beta2, on a 32bit ibm, which has

Re: [opensuse-factory] Tier-2 languages in RC1

2006-11-25 Thread Robby (M9.)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jaeger schreef: Michael and myself discussed this a bit further and asked our build experts to experiment a bit - and those first experiments are positive enough that I'm confident to tell you about them ;-). We're planning to put all

Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2

2006-11-25 Thread Robby (M9.)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adrian Schröter schreef: Am Friday 24 November 2006 16:42 schrieb Dominique Leuenberger: Reply on 24-11-2006 17:40:53 On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: /pub/opensuse/10.2 would be enough. Of course 10.2 is a distribution and

Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Samstag, 25. November 2006 19:35 schrieb Alexey Eremenko: Hi all ! As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules that I would like to see: [...] I would like you to recall that Yast has no been

Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexey Eremenko wrote: As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules that I would like to see: 1. Swap Manager (Yast GUI to manage swap files partitions)

[opensuse-factory] Re: Factory source for Internet installation

2006-11-25 Thread Terje J. Hanssen
I've downloaded and installed the CD isos for 10.2 RC1, both OSS and non-OSS. However there are some packages I need and that I don't find afterwards with YaSTProgramsAdd-Remove software. These single rpms are however found in the factory links, but which have to be downloaded and installed

Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Robby (M9.)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexey Eremenko schreef: Hi all ! As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules that I would like to see: 1. Swap Manager (Yast GUI to manage swap files

Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Mauro Parra
Hello, On 11/25/06, Robby (M9.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think, with all the changes, ext2, ext3, reiser, and all the consequenses, that it is time, for linux, to have a real partitioner, like Parttion Magic, which batches the needed changes, and completes the transaction before booting the

Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Robby (M9.)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mauro Parra schreef: Hello, On 11/25/06, Robby (M9.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think, with all the changes, ext2, ext3, reiser, and all the consequenses, that it is time, for linux, to have a real partitioner, like Parttion Magic, which

Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Alexey Eremenko
FTP server isn't a bad idea though, help about that is asked now and then on #suse (IRC). I have actually submitted a request more than a year ago. Hope someone will do it by 10.3. I would be very thankful for that person. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=118041 I have reopened

Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Mauro Parra
Hallo, On 11/25/06, Robby (M9.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- As a matter of fact, i did, with kanotix, the debian installed knoppix, Is it available for suse? The program is lying around, a small footprint livecd could be done if you want. But I don't see any

Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
I have a /boot partition 2 cyl big: 15M. With the new kernels it is too small, so when updating a kernel, i have to throw the 'oldon' away, before the 'new one can get installed... Your problem is to have a /boot partition altogether. They haven't been needed in many years. If you decide to

Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules that I would like to see: 1. Swap Manager (Yast GUI to manage swap files partitions) Swap partitions have to be handled by the partitioner. From (old)

Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Volker Kuhlmann wrote: As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules that I would like to see: 1. Swap Manager (Yast GUI to manage swap files partitions)

Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Robby (M9.)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mauro Parra schreef: Hallo, On 11/25/06, Robby (M9.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- As a matter of fact, i did, with kanotix, the debian installed knoppix, Is it available for suse? The program is lying

[opensuse-factory] Partitioner..

2006-11-25 Thread Robby (M9.)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 How to change the size of a partition, fi /home? Partitions can only resized if not mounted... @volker: we seem to be part of the competition, since we are sold, but that doesn't matter.. The partitioners we have are inferior, you have to admit

Re: [opensuse-factory] Partitioner..

2006-11-25 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robby (M9.) wrote: How to change the size of a partition, fi /home? Partitions can only resized if not mounted... Depends. They can be resized online when you're using LVM and reiserfs (or XFS, but you can only grow XFS partitions, not shrink

Re: [opensuse-factory] Test for Online Update (RC1)

2006-11-25 Thread Juan Erbes
2006/11/25, Marcel Hilzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: opensuseupdater shows me no updates. What am I doing wrong? -- The metadata from the packages are from Beta 1. But the packages are from RC1 in http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/ The Yast online update show

Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
What I would really like is some quick and easy way to create multiple document roots with vsftpd, even if it means cranking up multiple instances of it. This is a missing functionality in vsftpd in the first place, of course, but setting up vsftpd is still a *lot* easier + faster than

[opensuse-factory] bcm43xxx on Asus A2D Laptop

2006-11-25 Thread Peter Buschbacher
Hello folks! I´m just trying to find out how to get my Broadcom-WLAN on my Asus A2D Laptop working. As this is the first version with the bcm43xxx-module integrated in the kernel I have no experience in setting up wireless networks on Linux. So I asume I´m doing something wrong. What I did: I

Re: [opensuse-factory] bcm43xxx *Sorry for that

2006-11-25 Thread Peter Buschbacher
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Volker Kuhlmann wrote: What I would really like is some quick and easy way to create multiple document roots with vsftpd, even if it means cranking up multiple instances of it. This is a missing functionality in vsftpd in the first place, of

Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2006-11-26 at 08:49 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Your problem is to have a /boot partition altogether. They haven't been needed in many years. If you decide to make a /boot anyway and make it only 15M, it's your own fault. ;) That's

Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 20:15 +0100, Robby (M9.) wrote: This is needed indeed, the available partioning features are 'antique', and not realy usable during use, only when all is 'clean'. I have used many times the Yast partitioning module on a

Re: [opensuse-factory] Partitioner..

2006-11-25 Thread Mauro Parra
Hallo, On 11/25/06, Pascal Bleser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The partitioners we have are inferior, you have to admit that. Inferior to what ? Not to any Linux distribution I know of. See Mandrake installer. The partition tool is totally sweet.

[opensuse-factory] fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006) in 10.2b2 10.2RC1

2006-11-25 Thread Keith Goggin
Hi, I've been in the habit of mounting all my partitions at boot time and have noticed (since openSUSE10.2b2) that the new version of fsck which is run against mounted linux partitions other than (/ and swap) does not like pre openSUSE10.2b2 ReiserFS partitions. I don't know if this is a bug

Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Your problem is to have a /boot partition altogether. They haven't been needed in many years. If you decide to make a /boot anyway and make it only 15M, it's your own fault. ;) That's not completely true, they are needed with older hardware. I doubt that. My oldest hardware is 97/98 and

Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3

2006-11-25 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
This is a missing functionality in vsftpd in the first place, of course, but setting up vsftpd is still a *lot* easier + faster than doing the same with apache. Yes and no. Alias directives in Apache are pretty easy to set up ;) You might find it easy, but vsftpd is still 10x easier.

Re: [opensuse-factory] boot screen fun wiht RC1

2006-11-25 Thread Jens Herden
3. I could not find a way to add boot parameter anymore. Was this removed? I usually add a vga=0x305 because the installer is not detecting my screen. You sure can. Never seen it missing. I for sure can't. I started to install RC1 in vmware and now I can see the whole beauty of this

[opensuse-factory] Dummy Updates for Yast YOU

2006-11-25 Thread Keith Goggin
Hi, 1. I've added http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/suse/update/10.2/ to opensuseupdater in both 10.2b2 and 10.2RC1. In 10.2b2 opensuseupdater shows 7 patches available. In 10.2RC1 opensuseupdater shows none? 2. What happened to the dummy update I asked for

Re: [opensuse-factory] Dummy Updates for Yast YOU

2006-11-25 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer
Keith Goggin schrieb: Hi, 1.I've added http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/suse/update/10.2/ to opensuseupdater in both 10.2b2 and 10.2RC1. In 10.2b2 opensuseupdater shows 7 patches available. In 10.2RC1 opensuseupdater shows none? 2.What happened to the dummy