Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Helen
Meanwhile, we do indeed need to think about the name. How big is the scope of Bretzn, and IF we decide it's fully cross desktop/distro, is Bretzn the right name? It has indeed disadvantages, being hard to spell and pronounce for non- Germans... Well. Project Bretzn is the codename for the

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Donnerstag, 3. Februar 2011, 01:31:24 schrieb Jos Poortvliet: On Wednesday 02 February 2011 22:57:02 Adrian Schröter wrote: Am Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2011, 22:31:18 schrieb Jos Poortvliet: ... Just my 2cent on this: * I think when using the just the term OBS more strictly and avoiding

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Frank Karlitschek
On 03.02.2011, at 10:19, Helen wrote: Meanwhile, we do indeed need to think about the name. How big is the scope of Bretzn, and IF we decide it's fully cross desktop/distro, is Bretzn the right name? It has indeed disadvantages, being hard to spell and pronounce for non- Germans...

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Upgrade Label for Promo DVDs

2011-02-03 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Thursday 03 February 2011 06:12:51 Rajko M. wrote: On Wednesday, February 02, 2011 08:32:45 pm Carlos Ribeiro wrote: http://en.opensuse.org/File:Card18C.png I created category Marketing images: http://en.opensuse.org/Category:Marketing_images It is subcategory of Marketing and it

Re: Fwd: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE vs. Fedora

2011-02-03 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Thursday 03 February 2011 08:06:14 Manu Gupta wrote: I really like upgrade.opensuse.org, we can request this at opensuse-web ML Please do, in that case we can use that as label for the promo DVD stickers! Regards Manu On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 19:28 -0800, Tony Su wrote: Whoever the

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Ricardo Chung
On Thursday, February 03, 2011 04:57:40 AM Frank Karlitschek wrote: On 03.02.2011, at 10:19, Helen wrote: Meanwhile, we do indeed need to think about the name. How big is the scope of Bretzn, and IF we decide it's fully cross desktop/distro, is Bretzn the right name? It has indeed

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr)
On 03/02/2011 04:07 μμ, Ricardo Chung wrote: On Thursday, February 03, 2011 04:57:40 AM Frank Karlitschek wrote: On 03.02.2011, at 10:19, Helen wrote: Meanwhile, we do indeed need to think about the name. How big is the scope of Bretzn, and IF we decide it's fully cross desktop/distro, is

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Kim Leyendecker
Am 03.02.2011 16:17, schrieb Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr): Maybe name OBS as BSOS meaning Building Service for Operating System(s) but we also can have it as Building Service of (for) open SUSE or Building Service Open Source. One acronym with many meanings... Open Build Service - as

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Bryen M. Yunashko
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 17:29 +0100, Kurt Garloff wrote: Jos, On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 12:02:04PM +0100, Jos Poortvliet wrote: On Thursday 03 February 2011 10:55:01 Adrian Schröter wrote: One of them (Kurt Garloff) made actually a suggestion some month ago to rename it to OBS Build

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 10:55:01AM +0100, Adrian Schröter wrote: One of them (Kurt Garloff) made actually a suggestion some month ago to rename it to OBS Build Service. This is in the tradition of the Gnu tools and also rpm (RedHat Package Manager - rpm package manager) is a good example. It

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Bryen M. Yunashko
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 16:37 +0100, Kim Leyendecker wrote: Am 03.02.2011 16:17, schrieb Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr): Maybe name OBS as BSOS meaning Building Service for Operating System(s) but we also can have it as Building Service of (for) open SUSE or Building Service Open

[opensuse-marketing] event report from LCA

2011-02-03 Thread Jos Poortvliet
Hi all, I went to LCA ;-) Did blog about it - pictures can be found on my picasaweb: http://picasaweb.google.com/jospoortvliet/LCA2011Brisbane Event Report LCA 2011 * LCA 2011 happened from mon 24 to sat 29 of Januari 2011. * openSUSE Ambassadors: Jos Poortvliet, Tim Serong * Event

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Ricardo Chung
On Thursday, February 03, 2011 11:19:24 AM Bryen M. Yunashko wrote: On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 16:37 +0100, Kim Leyendecker wrote: Am 03.02.2011 16:17, schrieb Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr): Maybe name OBS as BSOS meaning Building Service for Operating System(s) but we also can have it as

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: event report from LCA

2011-02-03 Thread jdd
Le 03/02/2011 19:41, Jos Poortvliet a écrit : Please check out http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:LCA2011 and not the mail below, the site is better organized and I fixed some things :D should add the country and place :-) thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To

[opensuse-marketing] Re: event report from LCA

2011-02-03 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Thursday 03 February 2011 19:11:33 Jos Poortvliet wrote: Hi all, I went to LCA ;-) Did blog about it - pictures can be found on my picasaweb: http://picasaweb.google.com/jospoortvliet/LCA2011Brisbane Event Report LCA 2011 * LCA 2011 happened from mon 24 to sat 29 of Januari

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Richard
Hi, Op woensdag 02 februari 2011 22:42:23 schreef Jos Poortvliet: Maybe before we can be attractive to developers we have to be attractive to end users, so that they ditch their distribution repositories and use ours (which isn't supported by any distribution). So for you to succeded this

[opensuse-marketing] Has OpenSUSE pronunciation been stardardized?

2011-02-03 Thread Tony Su
Am curious, if the spelling has been modified, did anyone address what the official pronunciation should be? There are at least 3 pronunciations I've read and heard... opensoozah - Supposedly the closest to its German roots opensoozee - Probably the most common I've heard in the USA opensooze

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Has OpenSUSE pronunciation been stardardized?

2011-02-03 Thread Bryen M. Yunashko
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 12:06 -0800, Tony Su wrote: Am curious, if the spelling has been modified, did anyone address what the official pronunciation should be? There are at least 3 pronunciations I've read and heard... opensoozah - Supposedly the closest to its German roots opensoozee -

[opensuse-marketing] Announcing the first virtual launch party

2011-02-03 Thread Bruno Friedmann
Just a quick email for those of you who don't follow planet, or lizard.o.o I just published an article about our ( tigerfoot Morgane Marquis ) secret fun project maturing from Christmas. We work hard, and more has to come, to make it a success, and make some noise around openSUSE.

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Has OpenSUSE pronunciation been stardardized?

2011-02-03 Thread Alan Clark
On 2/3/2011 at 01:12 PM, in message 1296763974.24818.141.ca...@linux-vpc2.site, Bryen M. Yunashko susero...@bryen.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 12:06 -0800, Tony Su wrote: Am curious, if the spelling has been modified, did anyone address what the official pronunciation should be? There

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Has OpenSUSE pronunciation been stardardized?

2011-02-03 Thread Bryen M. Yunashko
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 14:28 -0700, Alan Clark wrote: On 2/3/2011 at 01:12 PM, in message 1296763974.24818.141.ca...@linux-vpc2.site, Bryen M. Yunashko susero...@bryen.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 12:06 -0800, Tony Su wrote: Am curious, if the spelling has been modified, did anyone

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Upgrade Label for Promo DVDs

2011-02-03 Thread Carlos Ribeiro
Bryen Just in case upgrade.opensuse.org will be approved I upload 3 files with the new url http://en.opensuse.org/File:Card19A.png http://en.opensuse.org/File:Card19B.png http://en.opensuse.org/File:Card19C.png Em Qui, 2011-02-03 às 07:28 -0600, Bryen M. Yunashko escreveu: On Thu,

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Has OpenSUSE pronunciation been stardardized?

2011-02-03 Thread Chuck Payne
Did you ever see our We are Geekos? On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Alan Clark acl...@novell.com wrote: On 2/3/2011 at 01:12 PM, in message 1296763974.24818.141.ca...@linux-vpc2.site, Bryen M. Yunashko susero...@bryen.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 12:06 -0800, Tony Su wrote: Am curious,

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Has OpenSUSE pronunciation been stardardized?

2011-02-03 Thread Alan Clark
On 2/3/2011 at 02:45 PM, in message AANLkTinBBDc91NjmKeEcRH7n=qycxbbmu-slrd9xe...@mail.gmail.com, Chuck Payne terror...@gmail.com wrote: Did you ever see our We are Geekos? Yes. Loved it! -Alan On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Alan Clark acl...@novell.com wrote: On 2/3/2011 at 01:12

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Upgrade Label for Promo DVDs

2011-02-03 Thread Ricardo Chung
On Thursday, February 03, 2011 03:32:49 PM Carlos Ribeiro wrote: Bryen Just in case upgrade.opensuse.org will be approved I upload 3 files with the new url http://en.opensuse.org/File:Card19A.png http://en.opensuse.org/File:Card19B.png http://en.opensuse.org/File:Card19C.png Em Qui,

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Paul Elliott
Why not use both names? Then one could use either name depending on the political context. open-buildservice for historical reasons also called opensuse-buildservice opensuse-buildservice for marketing reasons also called open-buildservice There could be a virtual project so that people

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Rajko M.
On Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:19:24 am Bryen M. Yunashko wrote: If I'm not mistaken (and it wouldn't be the first time I've been mistaken) OBS also packages for Windows. Thus Linux Build Service wouldn't work. Open is still the best. As mentioned before we can use only OBS and as

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Bryen M. Yunashko
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 19:04 -0600, Rajko M. wrote: On Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:19:24 am Bryen M. Yunashko wrote: If I'm not mistaken (and it wouldn't be the first time I've been mistaken) OBS also packages for Windows. Thus Linux Build Service wouldn't work. Open is still the

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Ricardo Chung
On Thursday, February 03, 2011 08:33:58 PM Bryen M. Yunashko wrote: On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 19:04 -0600, Rajko M. wrote: On Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:19:24 am Bryen M. Yunashko wrote: If I'm not mistaken (and it wouldn't be the first time I've been mistaken) OBS also packages for

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Rajko M.
On Thursday, February 03, 2011 07:33:58 pm Bryen M. Yunashko wrote: ... A. We recommend formally changing the name to Open Build Service B. We recommend formally changing the name to OBS and allowing people to use openSUSE Build Service or open Build Service as they see fit. C. Leave it

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Satoru Matsumoto
Bryen M. Yunashko wrote: A. We recommend formally changing the name to Open Build Service B. We recommend formally changing the name to OBS and allowing people to use openSUSE Build Service or open Build Service as they see fit. C. Leave it as is - openSUSE Build Service I vote for B.

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Helen
I vote A, Open Build Service (but only by a small factor over C.) I VIGOROUSLY oppose B on the grounds of ambiguity creating confusion. regards, Helen On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Bryen M. Yunashko susero...@bryen.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 19:04 -0600, Rajko M. wrote: On

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Bryen M. Yunashko
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 13:31 +0900, Satoru Matsumoto wrote: Bryen M. Yunashko wrote: A. We recommend formally changing the name to Open Build Service B. We recommend formally changing the name to OBS and allowing people to use openSUSE Build Service or open Build Service as they see

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Proposed OBS rename / + BRETZN name

2011-02-03 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Thursday 03 February 2011 23:50:27 Paul Elliott wrote: Why not use both names? Then one could use either name depending on the political context. open-buildservice for historical reasons also called opensuse-buildservice opensuse-buildservice for marketing reasons also called