Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread Frank Sundermeyer
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 17:52, houghi wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 04:55:01PM +0200, houghi wrote: Damn, That is hard to do. I am used to work solely with css and looking at tables is no fun. Any change of making a solely css page without the tables mess in it? please don't. Using

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread Frank Sundermeyer
On Thursday 27 July 2006 10:28, houghi wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 10:10:44AM +0200, Frank Sundermeyer wrote: please don't. Using CSS to place things in the content area will eventually break the whole page in case the general wiki template changes (e.g. when updating to a new

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread Frank Sundermeyer
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 17:42, Christoph Thiel wrote: Hi, First of all, I really enjoyed the revised designs! But there is one thing, that I'd like to bring up for discussion: Do you guys actually like the icons? IMHO they should be a bit smaller. In addition to that I have the feeling

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Frank Sundermeyer wrote: First of all, I really enjoyed the revised designs! But there is one thing, that I'd like to bring up for discussion: Do you guys actually like the icons? IMHO they should be a bit smaller. In addition to that I have the feeling that we

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread Frank Sundermeyer
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 16:55, houghi wrote: Hi, In general I like 2 a bit better, especially the top. I still think the right boxes are a bit too large compared to the amount of information they hold. ok, changed the ratio to 70:30 now. Also I would like to see a `bugreport` on each and

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread houghi
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 11:06:22AM +0200, Frank Sundermeyer wrote: The table I have used to position the two columns is within the content part. My fear is that if we use CSS to position the columns, the content layout will no longer be independent from then template layout. But maybe I am

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread houghi
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 11:28:04AM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: Already did that as a very first draft for a splash screen and didn't liked it. Anyway, here it is: http://www.suse.de/~fs/opensuse/splash_white.html That's nice! How about using a bigger openSUSE logo? And maybe adding

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2006-07-27 12:56:52 +0200, jdd wrote: I don't see why. I like tables :-) *bans jdd from doing layout* :p tables are so last century. darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread jdd
houghi a écrit : For thos who don't get it, I hate tables, especially if they are used to place content on a website. ;-) I don't see why. I like tables :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread jdd
Frank Sundermeyer a écrit : The table I have used to position the two columns is within the content part. My fear is that if we use CSS to position the columns, the content layout will no longer be independent from then template layout. But maybe I am wrong here. I think the present (in

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread jdd
Christoph Thiel a écrit : Yeah, we need designers... desperately ;) Mandriva organises a challenge to find designers (sort of Google of summer), may be Novell could do so also? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread jdd
Christoph Thiel a écrit : We could also try to place a direct link no :-(. A hub must stay a hub, to be used only of nothing else is available :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread jdd
houghi a écrit : It is easier when you want to stick to one design for always. Changing later is easier when done without tables. tables is nice for single pages, not for general layout, of course jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread jdd
Marcus Rueckert a écrit : On 2006-07-27 12:56:52 +0200, jdd wrote: I don't see why. I like tables :-) *bans jdd from doing layout* :p tables are so last century. darix tables are fast but don't forget we are speaking of single page layout, here, not general site one (of course, there

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread jdd
Frank Sundermeyer a écrit : http://www.suse.de/~fs/opensuse/home_jdd.html this is much better, however I don't see why Google of summer have a special treatment and I nearly missed completely the documentation column. It has nothing to do on the bottom right jdd -- http://www.dodin.net

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread jdd
Christoph Thiel a écrit : On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, jdd wrote: houghi a écrit : For thos who don't get it, I hate tables, especially if they are used to place content on a website. ;-) I don't see why. I like tables :-) From a accessibility point of view, tables really suck a lot. Did you ever

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2006-07-27 13:06:48 +0200, jdd wrote: Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:06:48 +0200 From: jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals To: opensuse-wiki@opensuse.org Marcus Rueckert a écrit : On 2006-07-27 12:56:52 +0200, jdd wrote: I don't see why

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread Frank Sundermeyer
On Thursday 27 July 2006 13:12, jdd wrote: Hi, When I'm at my mothers home (she got a computer 6 year ago for her 80th anniversary), I can perfectly browse my web site and not at all openSUSE one :-( (phone modem, 56k) your page is probably cached and opensuse isn't. ;-)) Just kidding. --

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread Frank Sundermeyer
On Thursday 27 July 2006 13:14, Marcus Rueckert wrote: Hi, On 2006-07-27 13:06:48 +0200, jdd wrote: Marcus Rueckert a écrit : On 2006-07-27 12:56:52 +0200, jdd wrote: I don't see why. I like tables :-) *bans jdd from doing layout* :p tables are so last century. darix

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread houghi
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 01:02:41PM +0200, jdd wrote: Christoph Thiel a écrit : We could also try to place a direct link no :-(. A hub must stay a hub, to be used only of nothing else is available :-) I agree, however the opensuse.org/Download is not good. Who is willing (daring) to

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread Frank Sundermeyer
On Thursday 27 July 2006 13:08, jdd wrote: Hi, Frank Sundermeyer a écrit : http://www.suse.de/~fs/opensuse/home_jdd.html this is much better, however I don't see why Google of summer have a special treatment I intended to have a separate box for special announcements. The Google Summer

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread jdd
houghi a écrit : I am talking about consitency throughout the openSUSE.org domain, including the wiki and e.g. also the mailinglist pages. It should all be done by the same css file with the same layout idea behind it. yes. but the only table we are speaking about is the front page table and

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread jdd
houghi a écrit : On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 01:02:41PM +0200, jdd wrote: Christoph Thiel a écrit : We could also try to place a direct link no :-(. A hub must stay a hub, to be used only of nothing else is available :-) I agree, however the opensuse.org/Download is not good. Who is willing

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread Frank Sundermeyer
On Thursday 27 July 2006 13:28, houghi wrote: Hi, I agree, however the opensuse.org/Download is not good. Who is willing (daring) to re-write it in such a way that people can start downloading the moment you get to that page? I am thinking, but can not come up with a good solution that does

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread houghi
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 01:43:15PM +0200, jdd wrote: yes. but the only table we are speaking about is the front page table and is only used for the central part and the right news column one see only on the front page. That is for now and it is not just one page, it is one page for each

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread houghi
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 01:40:54PM +0200, Frank Sundermeyer wrote: I thought the news more important than the Getting help link list. But these two boxes can be swapped of course, if everyone agrees. I do not see any other alternative. As the news is very infrequent at this moment, I would

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread houghi
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 01:44:21PM +0200, jdd wrote: houghi a écrit : On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 01:02:41PM +0200, jdd wrote: Christoph Thiel a écrit : We could also try to place a direct link no :-(. A hub must stay a hub, to be used only of nothing else is available :-) I agree, however

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-27 Thread Rajko M
Frank Sundermeyer wrote: snip 1. http://www.suse.de/~fs/opensuse/home.html 2. http://www.suse.de/~fs/opensuse/home_jdd.html The old (aka yesterday's) proposal is now located at http://www.suse.de/~fs/opensuse/stage_1/home.html snip The second is better. The Christoph has good eye. Icons

[opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-26 Thread Frank Sundermeyer
Hi, the latest FPR (Front page redesign ;-)) ) thread is starting to get complex, so with new proposals (stage 2), I am starting a new thread. Hope it's OK for you - this way it will definitely be easier for me to assign your comments to the correct proposal(s). For this very reason, I would

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-26 Thread houghi
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 04:00:51PM +0200, Frank Sundermeyer wrote: Hi, the latest FPR (Front page redesign ;-)) ) thread is starting to get complex, so with new proposals (stage 2), I am starting a new thread. Hope it's OK for you - this way it will definitely be easier for me to assign

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-26 Thread Christoph Thiel
Hi there, On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Frank Sundermeyer wrote: the latest FPR (Front page redesign ;-)) ) thread is starting to get complex, so with new proposals (stage 2), I am starting a new thread. Hope it's OK for you - this way it will definitely be easier for me to assign your comments to

Re: [opensuse-wiki] [FPR] Home page: 2nd stage of proposals

2006-07-26 Thread houghi
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 04:55:01PM +0200, houghi wrote: I will see if I can get a page together that would look like I would prefere it. Should be ready somewhere later today or tonight. Damn, That is hard to do. I am used to work solely with css and looking at tables is no fun. Any change of