Hi Margaret :
I would be interested in assisting in some way!
Please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
marilyn
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From:
Margaret
Aggar
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 9:34
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery
excellent and so well done.
marilyn
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From:
Maternity Ward Mareeba
Hospital
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:52 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Success!!!
It is now official as it is in todays Cairns Post and
a face presentation cannotbirth when the
mentum or chin is posterior, unless of course the baby rotates so that the
mentum is anterior then depending on the sacrum of the woman, the baby can birth
vaginally. It just depends how firmly the baby is in a mentum posterior
position.
marilyn
Lindsay:
I don't know if there is any evidence on this, I
have only anecdotal info: I have seen vulval varices on several homebirth
clients in the USA. First thoughts were in alignment with Foote. However at
least 2 of the women stated they had them during previous births and all went
well
I had only known of a gastric lavage being done once when I worked in
California and that was to a baby who had swallowed a tummy full of blood
birthing through an abruption (apgars of 8 and 9, c/s birth). In his case it
seemed quite reasonable though perhaps also unnecessary. It seems to be
quite
Hi Sue:
I found this one on pubmed after entering: neonates AND gastric lavage.
marilyn
Eur J Pediatr. 1999 Apr;158(4):315-7. Related Articles, Links
Is gastric lavage needed in neonates with meconium-stained amniotic fluid?
Narchi H, Kulaylat N.
Saudi Aramco - Al-Hasa Health Center,
Lindsay: there are some articles and reviews on
pubmed. I entered "vulval varicosities" AND birth and got nothing but I did get
3 articles whenI deleted "AND birth". If you then go to the related
articles button you will get some interesting papers. I've pasted one below on
vulval
Just thought i'd let you all know that 2 of the
founders of Seattle Midwifery School are presenting at the ICM on Monday 25th
July:Suzy Myers as below and Joanne
Myers-Cieko as per the conference (I'll send another email).
marilyn
From Lay to Licensed: A Tale of Two Midwives
Practicing
Ok so this is the abstract for Jo Anne
Myers-Cieko's presentation on Monday 25th July. marilyn:
This
is the story of a midwife whose career began with the unlawful and highly
political act of attending home births in when the state did not recognize
midwives. And of a mother who
had her
was allowed to facilitate descent until we had head on
view no assistance was required. The power of these
women's bodies birthed their babies despite the block
and it was marvellous to watch.
Miriam (2nd year Bachelor of Midwifery Flinders uni of
SA)
--- Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED
with Penicillin than the broad spectrums. WHO have big concerns
about
antibiotic resistance. 30% is a lot of women and babies.
Jenny
Jennifer Cameron FRCNA FACM
PO Box 1465
Howard Springs NT 0835
0419 528 717
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From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery
Exactly 20to 30% of otherwise healthy women will test positive for GBS by
either urine culture or lvs at 37/40 wks: we have no way of knowing which
GBS positive women will have a GBS septic baby and, in fact most GBS
positive women wont!! Somehow some women who are gbs positive transmit
immunity
Exactly!! To be licensed as an independent midwife
in Washington i had to be able to cannulate (I was stunned that this wasn't
expected here): it's emergency skills if you don't have them you shouldn't be
practicing independently, plus suturing plus other emergency skills: exactly how
can
With our epidurals post c/s we use pcea's which are
quite different and easier to manage re adding more drugs than the epidural
syringe type plunger used for top-ups in birth suite (at least for me). I had
never seen these plunger type things before coming to oz so i don't
knowwhere they
I think we need to be united in what we do too but
we do also need to be able to identify what is a nursing skill and what is a
midwifery skill. Just because a skill is a nursing skill doesn't mean it isn't
delivered with compassionate care. We have to stop deprecating nursing but
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Epidural top-up Policy
I can't agree about the iv insertion either. How
can any midwife practice independently if she can't insert an iv. And it is too
a nursing skill in most of the world. If Australian nurses are not inserting
iv's now what were they doing 30 years
Exactly! perhaps it falls into the category of
health care provider skill, just one we all need.
marilyn
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From:
Barbara Stokes
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 5:34 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re:
cannulation
LOvely, Alesa that is exactly how I had experienced
epidurals being set up in the USA. However, I have been told here that these
large syringes that require top ups are more innovative than the infusion (pcea)
pumps: I can't see how, even though I can see (in some ways) that if this
is the
I think what gets up my nose with regards to this issue is the implication
that at the individual level a mother's ease with birth and breastfeeding
necessarily makes the woman a great or better mother. While I don't think
the numbers have yet been crunched at a population level (probably because
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Epidural top-up Policy
Dear Justine and all:
With respect, if midwives in Australia stop doing
things like epidural top ups etc., you will see the introduction of the
obstetric or labour and delivery nurse this is her/his domain in places where
she/he exists, not
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] FW: Breastfeeding
Thank you Kerreen and Carina. It seems to me that
despite the BFHI about 10 to 20 % of women within our maternity system will and
do have problems with breastfeeding. I appreciate that only 1 % may have truly
insurmountable difficulties neverthless
absolutely, me too!
marilyn
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From: Sue Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Quote
ME TOO!!!
Sue
I am amazed to have been a midwife from the era in which women
marched in the
Hi Sue:
It seems to me that iron infusions are often advised for anyone who has a
Hb less than 100, antenatally/postnatally asymptomatic/symptomatic and blood
transfusions for postnates with Hb's less than 80 or 90 depending on the
doctor because again the woman maybe asymptomatic. Also
Thanks for that Belinda as I also attended brilliant antenatal classes led
by a physio in the '70's. Small country hospitals that had a physio even
part-time were offering antenatal classes long before midwives were. I am
not sure why physios picked up antenatal classes on the breath of the
Denise and all who are interested:
I have the Shamamas cd: yes i got it on the Farm in '99. It may be possible
to buy one from the various Farm websites or even Ina May's website not
sure? Of course I could prolly get some child of mine or someone elses to
burn it and make copies if there are no
I hopeI don't sound too rude but it
highlights exactly why I am not practicing independently at the moment.
Australian midwives do not have a mandate to be independent practitioners; I
simply cannot imagine not being able to order path tests for the women I am
caring for, not being able to
I totally agree Kim with everything you have said. I need to
know how these limitations to practice autonomously have arisen and why it seems
to be accepted.
marilyn
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From:
Kim Stead
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, April 30,
Hi: I am not yet a lactation consultant but I am a
midwife who lived in the USA until 2002. There are a number of factors involved
here re the vitamin D drops. I am assuming this is in response to an increase in
the prevalence of rickets in babies and young children. I will list them below.
No they both coexist. Implanon being iseerted in the arm and i
think its life in oz is 2 yrs or maybe 3yrs (need to reread the pamphlett from
Family Planning), there was one in the USA called Norplant which lasted 5yrs.
Mirena is the IUD which is implanted with progesterone and also a very
wow! where does that 10 % risk of uterine puncture come from -
insertion technique? One of my daughters uses the Mirena and after years of
painful periods with the other IUD is very thrilled with the Mirena, she also
cannot use other hormonal contraceptives, but thought the Mirena was worth
Hi Mary:
A 2 vessel cord is associated with some syndromes and some kidney anomalies
not all of which are problems. Have had one baby with a 2 vessel cord lovely
birth centre birth no u/s during pregnancy so no suspicions prior to birth.
Another mum did have u/s and 2 vessels cord was picked up
Here is another article Mary:
J Matern Fetal Med.
2001 Feb;10(1):59-63.
Related Articles,
Links
Perinatal outcome following fetal single
umbilical artery diagnosis.Pierce BT, Dance VD, Wagner RK,
Apodaca CC, Nielsen PE, Calhoun BC.Department of
Ditto: likewise it was a big part of our education and
practice in the USA.
marilyn
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From:
Callum
Kirsten
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 5:33
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Preconception
care?
I'm
I totally agree with you Megan and Denise. For most of us up here (Cairns)
teaching the parents how to bath their baby is showing them that water
immersion is actually OK and they take it from there. Of course there are
the safety messages about hot water and not leaving baby alone in the bath
-
From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] MORE ACTIVE MANGAEMENT
Jenny:
I know that what you say is Australian practice and if i were attending
homebirths here I would always transfer
short time frame if a
real
bleed is occurring.
Sue
I am a bit confused here - can you please explain how you do manual
removal in the home situation? Surely this is too dangerous a procedure
to do at home? Thanks Sue
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*From:* Marilyn Kleidon
I think the other reason which tag teams on this
one is the prevalence of malaria and resultant loss of rbc and hence anaemia.
There are also other parasitic diseases coexisting chronically which also lead
to a depletion of rbc.
From reading the Hinchinbrook trial I was under the
had all normal, quick births so far. Would you use active
management
of third stage because she is a grand multip or would you still
encourage
a
physiological third stage??
Leanne.
From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
. Just curious as to what is the 'norm' ??? Thankyou,
Fiona
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From:
Marilyn
Kleidon
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:55
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] MORE ACTIVE
MANGAEMENT
midwives how
they would care for a woman who is a G10P9 if she chose to birth at home.
She has had all normal, quick births so far. Would you use active
management
of third stage because she is a grand multip or would you still encourage
a
physiological third stage??
Leanne.
From: Marilyn Kleidon
:
Marilyn
Kleidon
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:34
AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] DEM's
We have been discussing restrictions on
practice to Direct Entry Midwives can others tell us what the restrictions
are state
I still think it's all about marketing, isn't
everything these days. I hate to be cynical and try to be sceptical... but I
really think we are in a turf war with the obstetricians (not all of them but
with their professional association aka AMA) and anaesthetists over normal women
and
Hi all: I have copied this from the most recent
Midwifery Today Enews. Gives us all a chance to do something
perhaps.
marilyn
Aceh Midwifery Relief Update from Robin Lim
February 2, 2005
Dear family, loved ones,
In two days our "Mother/child survival" team will leave for Aceh. It has been
Well said Sadie, exactly my experience in Qld. It isn't that I
wont work Gyne or any other general ward here, it is that the QNC forbids it as
it is NOT what I am licensed to do as a DEM. There are only 2 of us here
so we have had to make it perfectly clear it is not our preference. However
I have definetly seen higher incidence of mec liq
with births from women who have taken castor oil, but then they have all been
postdates (well and truly and trying to avoid hospital inductions) and there is
a higher incidence of mec liq with postdates babies anyway. I am sure
there isn't a
I just did a pub med search on "castor
oil"AND labour and got 4 hits, 2 which had abstracts which seem to
contradict each other, marilyn:
S
Afr Med J. 1987 Apr 4;71(7):431-3.
Related
Articles,
Links
Meconium during
From: "Marilyn Kleidon" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Student's support role
Just a question of interest: how common are telemet
the telemetric ctg available it is just the staff
which dont tend to use this as it can be a bit fiddly.
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From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Student's support
Just a question of interest: how common are telemetric ctg's here in
Australia??
marilyn
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From: shaz42 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Student's support role
Kirsten as a
Title: Message
how interesting, never seen or heard of this
before.
marilyn
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From:
Sylvia Boutsalis
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 3:31
AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: SA
maternity hospitals info
Thank you so much Jo I think it is
brilliant.
marilyn
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From:
Dean
Jo
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 4:54
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] baby knows breats
photo
This seems to be generating a
I would love this too , Jo. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thanks
marilyn
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From:
Wendy Taberer
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 5:23
AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery]
attachments
Hi Jo, I too would
love to see
I took the time to visit this site this morning and
it is wonderful.
marilyn
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From:
Alesa
Koziol
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 5:35
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breast
reduction site
Thanks Di,
Dear Barb:
What I have found is that the women themselves who
have had breast reduction surgery when they come back for a second baby often
don't want to repeat what happened the first time and so many choose to bottle
feed. I think many do have unrealistic expectations and with early
Hi Jan and all:
I'll go back to Andrea's issue with the gas and
pethidine being on the menu why is this "* A
natural birth is encouraged with hot showers, baths and hot packs, but if you
want there is the gas or needle for pain (hard to believe this one!) offered in a birth centre?
marilyn
fantastic news, congratulations to Cas and her baby, Wayne and Lynne and
Vicki.
much love
marilyn
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From: Jodie Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:21 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Triumphant birth for Caroline
Title: Clexane
Hi Justine and all:
I tried real hard to let this alone a wait for a
while but just couldn't. I do think that a homebirth could be possibly
contraindicated for this woman because of these cardiolipin antibodies coupled
with her apparently needing anticoagulation theraapy. I
This is the actual article from medscape:
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/496128
Not nearly as alarmist as the smh version.
marilyn
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From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 6:55 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fwd:
Dear Maureen:
For what it is worth I totally agree with all you've said. Very common
scenarios.
regards
marilyn
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From: Ken WArd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:21 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] feeds in 24 hrs?
Ok I
age -
From:
JoFromOz
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 4:33
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: feeds in
24 hours
Marilyn Kleidon wrote:
Thanks Tina: you've actually posted that before
'cause I had copied it and pasted it into
I would think a baby generally needs comping when all is not well. This can
present in a variety of ways at various times. Recently came on to special
in HDU a young woman who had birthed over night (approximately 12 hours
previously), spontaneous vaginal birth but pre-eclamptic in labour, Mg SO4
Hi Abby:
Firstly the other links provided should give you a
good idea of the evidence around this test. Logistically though, if the mother
wants to go ahead and have the test, the fasting should be no more than the
normal overnight "fasting" in other words have a good meal around 8pm and
Apologies to sally etc. I read "glucose tolerance
test" and not "glucose challenge test". Your (at least mine) eye
sees what it expects to see.
It is my understanding that the "glucose challenge
test" is even more debatable.
marilyn
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From:
Abby and Toby
Kristin:
I do believe the anti-D WINROH products are thimerosol free, according to
the product info sheet glycine is the preservative used.
I am not at all familiar with Bayroh-d. Rhogam is just a brand of anti-d and
does use thimerosol as a preservative, at least the last time I looked. I
don't
Hi nicole:
I couldn't resist doing a quick search on Pubmed
using the terms pregnancy AND "spiritual needs" I came up with 3 journal
articles which do appear to be commentories and also all more than 10
years old.
The web site is: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgiand
it is
Also Nicole: if you go to www.medscape.com you can run searches on both
medscape and medline, I had most success here with pregnancyAND
spirituality. The articles will be international though most (but not all) will
be in US journals. I did notice a few from Australia though.
marilyn
Thanks for that!
marilyn
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From:
Jenny
Cameron
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 5:05
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] ParvoB19
FYI
http://www.obgynworld.com/international/obgynworld/reference/pdf/cpg119.pdf
Dear Abby:
My own breech birth actually ended up pretty
managed though it wasn't intended that way! My daughter was born 27 yrs ago this
december 29 at Corinda maternity, Brisbane. I was seeing a Gp for my pregnancy
as this was back in the day when Gp's attended births ie they did have
I would relish that!
marilyn
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From:
Kim Stead
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 1:38
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breech birth
question
Hi Marilyn and Abby
Interesting topic
Hi Abby:
I would expect this midwife was trained in breech
birth management sometime ago probably by an ob in the 70's who was still
delivering babies at home as they did in some parts of the US at this time. This
midwife's address is Massachusetts. It seems like she is reacting to the
Terbutline is a bronchial dialator but is also used to relax uterine muscle.
it is definetly used in the USA to stop or even prevent uterine ctx's (like
for example before an ECV is attempted). As homebirth midwives we also
carried it in case we ever had someone with severe fetal distress who was
Because it is an old remedy many people think or assume it is herbal in
origin, but it actually is of the heavy metal group of agents. If you are
into colloidal silver and other treatments of this nature then it is
effective, but as with other heavy metal agents there is a level of
biotoxicity and
to intravesical instillation of gentian violet
completely recovered with conservative therapy.
Yonsei Med J. 2003 Feb;44(1):163-5.
PMID: 12619193 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23
, and no quality standards currently exist.
Talk to your doctor, nurse or pharmacist before following any medical
regimen to see if it is safe and effective for you.
Please read the end user acknowledgement.
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From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED
that there is a multi centre study going on - they were trying to
recruit pregnant women or babies where one parent was diabetic.. hoping
to
follow 6000 kids. I don't recall the details of where it was being done
though.
Sandra
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From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL
or babies where one parent was diabetic.. hoping to
follow 6000 kids. I don't recall the details of where it was being done
though.
Sandra
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From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:56 AM
Subject: Re
Thank you for this jenny!!
When will Queensland follow
suite!
marilyn
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From:
Jenny
Cameron
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:16
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Here 'tis!!
Title: Great News for NT Women
Congratulations to all whop have worked so hard on
this!! fantastic!!
marilyn
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From:
Justine Caines
To: OzMid List ; MC NSW
Branch
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:33
AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Great News for
yes we do!!
marilyn
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From: ID AC Quanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Great News for NT Women
Oh you wonderful wonderful women. Now we just need the remainder of the
mexican states
Way to go Denise, I totally agree. However, am part of a working group for
BFHI reaccreditation and was asked to find the evidence. So, I was just
wondering if there was some that I had missed.
marilyn
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From: Denise Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I remember some time ago one of the midwives on
this list having a practice of having mothers with GDM express colostrum
antenatally so it was available to feed the baby in the early postnatal period
should the baby's BSLs be low. I have just been trying to search pubmed to find
research on
Hi there:
This is quite complex and unusual, at least for me. I have done a google
search for low sodium or hyponatremia AND neonates and came up with quite a
list of info sources. Low sodium for a neonate can have severe consequences
as it can lead to cerebral oedema and seizures. It seems to
people do? How
often after birth do you have to give a second dose? I can see more
homework is needed to find out what is best practice.
Andrea Quanchi
On Saturday, October 30, 2004, at 08:15 , Marilyn Kleidon wrote:
Yes there is. In the hospital up in FNQ at least, we do a FCAD (free
Great site Abby.
marilyn
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From: Abby and Toby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Gary Ezzo
been doing the right thing to let the baby cry for hours ... naturally
nobody in the house has been
Yes there is. In the hospital up in FNQ at least, we do a FCAD (free
circulating anti-D blood test) 48 hours after the anti-D is given
(apparently this test was done 24 hrs after the previous brand of anti-D but
this changed with WinRho to 48 hrs). If there is passive anti-D detected
then no
You know Sally, that is about the best description
I have heard or read. I have tried to say the same thing and have used other
bodily functions as an example (like thinking you need to poo and then having no
doubt about it but I don't think that works as well as your
scenario).
marilyn
Sara Wickhams amazing and informative site is
http://www.withwoman.co.uk/.
marilyn
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From:
Kristin
Beckedahl
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:56
PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re:
anit-D
Thanks for that info
Nicole:
I think perhaps you are confusing giving anti-D prophylactically (usually
given once at 28weeks if antibody negative and then again postnatally if the
baby is Rh pos) with treating a possible sensitising event.
When given prophylactically the life of the antibodies is thought to be
I am assuming that a FCAD was done after the birth and if the presence of
passively aquired antibodies was positive then it could be assumed that no
further anti-D was required.
How was this determined andrea?
marilyn
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From: JoFromOz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
Has the ABC been promoting this in other parts of
Australia? I think I have heard of everything else George is doing this week
except Tuesday night over here in FNQ, I do hope we're getting the same
broadcast. All it says in the Weekend aus. Review is : Explores the issues,
trends and
Hi Kristin:
I am presuming you mean the new brand of anti-D that has been re-introduced
and can be given in prenancy and postpartum to Rh neg mothers (for
prevention of haemolytic disease of the newborn HDN). This product has been
for use in Australia for at least 36 months and is called Whin-Rho
Hi Abby:
While on the one hand I agree with you that there ought to be at least an
overview if not an introductuction to alternative/complementary therapies in
a midwifery course I can also understand why this has been left out. I also
agree with you with regard to the evidence based
Try this MJA article at:
http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/181_08_181004/dec10468_fm.html
There was an article by the authors / AMA press release in Monday's
Courier Mail (18/10/04)
marilyn
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From: Kirsten Wohlt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
or not they want support
from and association with any party that endorses a
candidate who claims on national radio/print media/TV
that all lesbians are witches and should be burnt at
the stake. Maybe time to tread lightly, miriam
Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Abby and Philippa
Hi Jo:
I think this comment was mine:
I did read the comment about the
complacency of VBAC that had occurred during the last few years with interestI
could see how that could be viewed. BUT could it be the ever creeping
obstetric interventions imposed upon VBACS that led to the increased
Hi Abby and others:
I am wondering if you or anyone else know Family First's position on
homebirth and PI
insurance for midwives? I am only wondering because of your biblical
familiarity and so may be off base entirely. In the USA at least,
conservative christians, especially pentecostals and/or
Great, Abby. It may well be a difficult discussion for some of us, however
they could also be a powerful alliance for midwives and childbearing women.
As you may be aware conservative christians come in many types of clothing
and hairstyles etc., in the USA difficult to tell apart superficially
Abby:
If the doc was able to do a stretch and sweep then he was able to reach
her cervix, and some dilation had occurred as he was able to put his finger
inside the cervical os and then sweep between the cervix and membranes
probably doing some cervical stretching as well. Theoretically supposed
Maybe you could offer grad midwife positions so
that they are on the payroll and hence covered by insurance. What a
shame.
marilyn
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You have both said it all very well i
think.
marilyn
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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Students,
training and other things was Re: uterine rupture 1998
Yes,
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