Sometimes it can be helpful to ask the person who has said she is high risk
to ask what she is at risk of. Usually puts it all in perspective and of
course remind the woman that you may be at risk of something but it does not
mean it will happen. Risk is not a diagnosis it is to assist in
The phrase you put so well - Risk is not a diagnosis; It is to assist in
preventing problems or detecting them early, so they can be minimized - is
just perfect and will work well in many of life's matters!
Thank you for putting it so nicely: simple and yet complete! May I use that
phrase in my
Thanks Melissa.
I have now checked out the counselling diploma through the aust. institute of
professional counsellors. Thanks again for the info :)
Rachael
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From: Melissa
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:54 PM
Hi Again Andrea,
I know you are working hard to get this course finished, but I have a few
questions (I hope that is OK?). Is there any where online where I can find
out more about the certificate IV in childbirth education? Is the course
locked into university semester timetables or can it
Hi Melissa
I completed the Diploma of Professional Counselling 12 years ago and if you are
intending to go into the Childbirth Education area I'm not sure that this would
be an asset unless you intend doing counselling as well. I work one on one with
clients also. It's a 16 module course that
Fish Oil in Various Doses or Flax Oil in Pregnancy and Timing of Spontaneous
Delivery: A Randomized Controlled Trial
[Obstetrics: Preconception and Prenatal Care]
Knudsen, V K.; Hansen, H S.; Østerdal, M L.; Mikkelsen, T B.; Mu, H; Olsen,
S F.
Maternal Nutrition Group, Department of
This list is brilliant! I love that you can pose a qustion like this and
someone will have the time to investigate or already know! Hi Tiff!!
Cheers,
Di
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From: Rene and Tiffany
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 6:34 PM
Thanks for that Diane, I’ve just been reading on her website and got the
gist of the programme, have met GDR myself, bit of an odd bod, but like his
thought processes on pain and fear…
Tania
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Sent:
Hi all you smart people
Just wondering if anyone has provided Midwifery Led Care for a women who has
crohns. I have a friend who has been told that she is 'HIGH RISK' due to her
'condition'. It is her first pregnancy and I understand that she takes very
good care of herself and is
In the hospital I work in the woman is considered to be high risk but only
needs a consultant review to make sure all is ok before going to midwifery
led care. So at her first appointment she has to ask if she can then go to
midwifery care instead of doctor care.
Cheers sharon
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At the community Midwife Program at Wangaratta we have no exclusion criteria.
All women see a Dr at the clinic once during the preganancy and more on an as
needs basis in consultation with the Drs. For example women with a previous
LUSCS go once at about 14-18 weeks then again at 36 weeks after
Anke, Give Ingrid Steed or Jan Smith a call at Mareeba on 0740922322.
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From: Anke Dalman
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:25 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] job
Hi Di,
The birth centre is only a dream at this point
Anke,
Please contact me on [EMAIL PROTECTED] re work. ASAP.
Megan
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From: Anke Dalman
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:25 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] job
Hi Di,
The birth centre is only a dream at this point
Yes I guess many of the inovators of our time and past were odd bods as you say
but maybe their minds were so entrenched in the technical fields they are in
that social skills were not a priority. Lovely to hear that you met him though.
His concepts have cetainly changed the way many of us
Hi Honey and others,
A more recent article on this issue can be found here:
http://www.birthinternational.com/articles/hastie02.html
and an earlier article on the same topic, also by Carolyn Hastie is here:
http://www.birthinternational.com/articles/hastie01.html
Both should be widely read
Midwives not only eat their young, they also eat their elders. MM
Hi Honey and others,
A more recent article on this issue can be found here:
http://www.birthinternational.com/articles/hastie02.html
and an earlier article on the same topic, also by Carolyn Hastie is here:
Thank you Andrea,
The article is brilliant...I will definately be using this in our
workplace...many of us have been subject to this sort of behaviour. The main
culprits have not been pulled aside or cautioned for their behaviour, so it
goes on! What once was a lovely unit to work in, and
Hi everyone,
Just wondering if anyone has attended Shari Read’s Birthskills workshops?
I’ve just spoken to two women who went, and both were pretty impressed, but
I’m wondering from a midwives perspective whether they would be beneficial?
Any ideas or comments?
Tania
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Hi Tania
I discovered BirthSkills prior to becoming pregnant with my second son, as I
was looking for that something extra after a traumatic first birth. I was
very impressed with Shari and her program...my second son was born without
fear, minimal pain and in the bath.
As a midwife, a
US mums need breast feeding education - study
Reuters | Saturday, 13 January 2007
NEW YORK: A growing number of Americans incorrectly believe that infant
formula is as good as breast milk, while more are becoming increasingly
uncomfortable with mothers breast-feeding their infants in public, a
Hi all,
A woman I am supporting for her first birth has 'heard/read somewhere' about stopping her fish oils supplements if she is post-dates (now 40+9) as this may help bring it on - she has been on fish oils throughout pregnancy - and I know all about the prostaglandin-like effect of evening
Justine,
do you have some references for the midwifery led units that you refer to:
To prove this look at the NZ rural units stats where midwives are providing
a total care package without an obstetric unit and epidural service at the
door. These stats are stunning. It is very hard to find
Thanks for that Natalie, just what I was thinking, but good to hear from
someone who has done the course,
Tania
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Monday, 15 January 2007 3:38 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re:
Hi Tania
Calmbirth, HypnoBirthing and Birth Skills are all very similar programs. Shari
was a HypnoBirthing Practitioner who like many of us wanted to create the
Aussie program so calmbirth and Birth Skills were born. All have the same
really good underpinnings of Grantly Dick Read.
warm
For the lister who asked for this in the past week, I have found my paper copy.
It is in Birth Issues Volume 4 Number 3 1995. Carolyn Hastie. Midwives eat
their young, don't they? A story of horizontal violence in midwifery.
If you would like me to fax it to you email me off list.
Regards
Honey
Me too.
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Sent: Friday, 12 January 2007 4:48 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Support people in birthing suites
We are a small rural hospital - approx 130-150
Maybe a direct entry program at Curtin Uni in Perth next Year. And most
hospitals in Perth run their own classes.
Sue
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From: James Fairbairn
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:47 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] courses WA
Dear Lisa, Our policy used to be 1 support at a time, and I did use this once
to remove a sister that the couple did not wish to be there , but could not
tell her themselves for fear of offence. Now I think it may have been changed
or at least we ignore it ( it may be 2 now). For me, if the
The hospital where I work there is a limit of 3 people but saying this we
don’t really mind if we have more I have been in rooms where there have
been 8 people or more as long as they are not impeding the work of the
midwife its ok. So in all however many you feel the woman wants in the room.
Me too please thankyou sharon
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Sent: Friday, 12 January 2007 7:16 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
Good Morning all
To all those Ozmidders who requested a
Hello Rachael,
As the provider of the Graduate Diploma in Childbirth Education I can
confirm that it is no longer being offered. However, all is not
lost! Birth International is the only Registered Training
Organisation (an Australian Government Accredited training provider)
in this field,
Wasnt someone desparate for a caseload midwife down south around xmas time? Is
there still anything there?
Di
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From: Anke Dalman
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 1:04 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] job
Hi list members,
Yes that was Portland Hospital, Caseload midwifery.
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From: diane
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] job
Wasnt someone desparate for a caseload midwife down south around xmas time?
Is
Hi Di,
The birth centre is only a dream at this point and when I see how fast
they work here it might be another 1 or 2 years until it's up and
running, and then it will still be running under the medical model,
since it is on hospital grounds. I don't think that it will be run as a
true
What about Mareeba or Cairns? Not Mackay though, the job there is mine (as soon
as I get through the interview!! LOL). Although only 20m from the hospital, it
is very woman centred care, but true , there are some limitations where the
medical model impinges on care, but not much and usually
Not anymore Janet, she is not able to practice here now.
Philippa Scott
Birth Buddies - Doula
Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and
labour.
President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville
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Good Morning all
To all those Ozmidders who requested a copy of the Warm Water Immersion
workbook, pleasewatch this space. It is copyrighted by Ramsay Healthcare
(Selangor's owners). I put your requests to the DOH and she is conferring with
RHC re this. Watch this space! And thank youall for
Hi Philippa
My thoughts are with you for this birth :-)
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From: Philippa Scott
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:39 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] job
Oh Anke I will do my best to see that that is not the case. I have
Hi Philippa,
Let us know if we can do anything to help. The Mackay BC is having its 12th
birthday this year! Wow , hope of a IPM then she is gone, what a shame for
T'ville.
cheers,
Di
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To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday,
hi lynne
i would love a copy of the reference list please
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Hi everyone,
I am a childbirth educator recently moved to WA and would like to know firstly
if most of the childbirth classes here are done in hospital by midwives or are
there other formats. Also, is there a direct entry system into a midwifery
course in WA without nursing first.
Would
What are peoples thoughts on limiting or not limiting the number of support
people who come into be with a woman in labor in hospital? What is your
hospital policy about thisare children welcome? Am interested in what
others experiences and policies are.
Lisa
What are peoples thoughts on limiting or not limiting the number of support
people who come into be with a woman in labor in hospital? What is your
hospital policy about thisare children welcome? Am interested in what
others experiences and policies are.
Lisa
We are a small rural hospital - approx 130-150 births in the year - and over
the last 8 yrs of very part-time work (between having 3 children) we have
had siblings, toddlers, parents, friends, in-laws, neighbours and although
most women have 1-2 people by choice, I have seen 4+ wandering in and
Me too please
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TIA
Wendy
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From: nicole and gareth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
hi lynne
i would love a copy of the reference list please
Precancerous changes and preterm births
Issue 01: 8 Jan 2007
Source: BJOG: An International Journal of Obstetrics and Gynaecology
2007;114:70-80
A study has provided new insights into the association between precancerous
changes in the cervix and the risk of subsequent preterm birth. The
Dear all
It's been quite a while since my last posting on this list. But never the
less, I enjoy reading the posts every day - and forwarding the most
insteresting posts to the communities here in Denmark. Cherished.
I seem to get all the posts without any problems.
Thank you all for making this
Dear all
Twice in one night out of two years I feel compelled to answer posts on the
list!
This study has been used as a propellar for inaugerating new studies
performed on the pregnant here in Denmark!
Actually they claim to have a vaccine given to young girls up to 15 years
old, that would
MessageHi Kirsten,
Are you talking about the HPV (genital warts) vaccine? They say HPV is
responsible for approx 70% of cervical cancer cases although I have seen that
figure stretched beyond the 70% for the sake of advertising of the HPV vaccine.
I'm not sure where the figure comes from. I
Hi Jayne
It's actually a new - socalled revolutionary vaccine - against cervical
changes. I do not not know that much about the actual compund yet - vague
press info so far, but they do stress making it universal for all girls at
onset of puberty and before sexual beginning, thus 15 years of age.
Hi list members,
I wanted to send this email under how do you deal with your
frustrations?' but the text is not really an answer to that discussion.
Therefore I started a new one. I just quit my job at the local hospital,
because I could no longer accept the way women and staff (lower in rank
and
Hi Anke - a happy New Year to you
Bullying is the name of the game in most Autralian maternity units. I
can only suggest that you start working with women again and not with
colleagues. Set up your own practice.
It is so satisfying working one-to-one rather than deal with
disgruntled staff who
Hi Jan,
I thought of that, but there are already 2 childbirth educators here and
they are good practitioners. I don't like to 'steal' their income. They
are too good and nice for that. Also I like to help the women to birth
too much. I'm addicted.
Love Anke
I'm emailing again because I don't think the email I wrote yesterday went
through? At least I didn't get it on my computer.
To help me deal with my frustrations, so to speak, I am contemplating doing
some more study so that I can do some independent antenatal education. I
would love some
You could learn pregnancy massage and some of the natural therapies. Try
the Australian College of Natural Therapies. Or a counselling degree /
diploma - this complements midwifery very nicely. Try the Australian
Institute of Professional Counsellors - I know they run a distance education
Hi Anke
Where are you geographically?
You say you want to be around birthing women. How about setting up in private
practice as Jan says??
You dont have to steal income from other childbirth educators. What about a
complete midwifery practice, antenatal care, birth support in hospital,
Thank you Wendy,
Homebirths would be ideal, but not at this present time due to
litigation worries. Going into hospital is no deal either. As a hospital
midwife there was no autonomy and there are no visiting rights and no
insurance. I am in Townsville at the moment.
Thanks Anke
Townsville is in desperate need of IMs. I believe there's one newly on the
scene there atm?
Out of interest, has anyone been sued since the insurance rubbish began?
J
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From: Anke Dalman
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007
You should be able to contact Marie on 0407266004 or email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], and Jane on 0408035808, both are lovely and you
should be able to find which one suits you the best!.
Sonja
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Good stuff! - although probably more appropriate to leave it up to Janet to
share or not share that information. :o)
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From: Kelly Zantey
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:19 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Cosmo pregnancy
Nah, not throwing it out the window at all, I see it as having great
potential and a great opportunity to learn and develop for Australia. It's
great for everyone to know what you've just said Justine, as no-one really
knows anything about what's going on, and all the work occurring behind the
Hi,
I'm still getting only the odd email so apologies if I repeat what
anyone else has said.
Justine really has her finger on the pulse in terms of consumer
apathy/lack of knowledge. One thing that really struck me as I was
completing my midwifery degree though and doing my clinical
Study: Amniotic fluid yields stem cells
January 7, 2007 06:42:22 PM PST
Scientists reported Sunday they had found a plentiful source of stem cells
in the fluid that cushions babies in the womb and produced a variety of
tissue types from these cells  sidestepping the controversy over
This is fairly close to what happens at our hospital also.
Cheers
Judy
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Here at our local hospital of approx 530 births per annum we
do not routinely screen all pregnant women.
We offer (with a fair degree of pressure, I might add) IV
We try so hard where I work to give woman centered care which is
great when all goes according to plan. But if it doesn't: why no
IV (she was drinking well), why no catheter (she was voiding
well), why no CTG (frequent intermittant asucultation showed no
abnormalities) etc etc. This was a transfer
jassy,
I too had the test - purely out of curiosity as I didnt plan on having the AB. I came back positive but declined any treatment in labour. Labour was quick anyway - 4.5hours, and bub was fine. I think they did take an ear or nasal swab (?not sure?) but I heard nothing again of it. I birthed
Struggling midwives left feeling the pain
Last Updated: 12:01am GMT 09/01/2007
* Your
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FWAVCBQ0IV0?view=BLOGDETAILgrid=P30blog=yourviewxml=/news/2007/01/08/ublv
iew08.xml view: How important are midwife
Too-posh-to-push women 'should pay for their own caesareans'
Last Updated: 12:01am GMT 09/01/2007
Women who have caesareans as a lifestyle choice rather than for medical
reasons should have to pay for their treatment, a leading public health
expert said yesterday.
NHS money would be
Hi Kelly and all on this thread,
I agree that there is a great need for marketing Midwifery led care. In
Maleny we have developed brochures and fliers and sent them around to all
the GP practices also to childcare /Kindy etc. We are also putting an add in
the local paper advertising our
Hi,
I have become fairly philosophical about it (I guess I have to for self
preservation!) I think that if a woman has grown up, been socialised in
this culture and is now an adult, I have to be accepting of the decision she
makes. If nothing in her 30 years (or whatever) has taught her to
Personally, I see it in a far wider context where birth, pregnancy and
breastfeeding are just all aspects of women's lives and are thus constrained by
a lack of genuine choice and yet many potential pacifiers and hoops to jump
through. I can't approach birth on it's own because it's merely a
Please email or call Penny with your stories.
Best Regards,
Kelly Zantey
Creator, http://www.bellybelly.com.au BellyBelly.com.au
Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby
http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support BellyBelly Birth Support
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I agree with this in a general sense, however I don't think we can put all
ob's in the same basket. I am having my baby at Selangor in February which
is a private hospital but run sort of like a birth centre. There is a
midwife clinic but to have access to this service you must be under the care
Well said Janet. It's quite obvious when you look at the entire context of
women in our society. Actions speak louder than words. Unfortunately many
women are too busy trying to be 'yummy mummy's' rather than focusing on getting
in tune with themselves and their babies. Popular culture has a
I did some prac work when I was studying my midwifery degree at selangor.
It is a beautiful hospital and the obs there are generally most considerate.
I believe though they do struggle with c-sect rates? Lynn Staff could tell
you if she's reading? Doing my prac at selangor confirmed my belief
Hi all,
I know info on this topic has been posted before but I deleted it all -
silly me as I now wish to ask some questions which have probably already
been covered.
I am 34 weeks pregnant and was not going to have the STREP B test but I have
done some further research and it suggests
I donot believe it's necessary. I have never been tested and have four
babies. The thing is, you can be negative at the time of the test, and
positive two days later. The swab does not detect ALL positive cases. As
you are allergic to AB's you can't have them anyway, and I would be
reluctant to
Hi Jassy,
I don't know from a midwive's point-of-view but I'm 32 weeks pregnant and
have decided against the test. Like you, I first made the decision against
antibiotics and then made the decision not to have the test. My decision was
also swayed by a friend living in the UK who tells me it's
Here at our local hospital of approx 530 births per annum we do not routinely
screen all pregnant women.
We offer (with a fair degree of pressure, I might add) IV antibiotics in
labour of a woman has had Pre-labour ruptured membres for 18 hours or if she is
in preterm labour 37 weeks or if she
Just letting everyone know this spot has been filled - Janet got in very
quickly!
Best Regards,
Kelly Zantey
Creator, http://www.bellybelly.com.au BellyBelly.com.au
Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby
http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support BellyBelly Birth Support
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No Sonja - could you send me their details please? Thanks to the
others who've offered names as well.
Em
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Sonja
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Jassy - last time this discussion was on this list, I wrote a little
on it at my blog
(http://midwiferyiscatching.blogsome.com/2006/12/06/antibiotics-and-gbs-and-birth-oh-my/)
to give you some ideas. In your case - I'd consider using antibiotics
for a maybe situation when you are so allergic to
Hi,
after being on this list for a long, long, time i just have to ask:
where has this list gone to?
it used to be fully midwifery - issues, questions, politics - to inform
, incite, advocate - for better maternity care systems across australia
- for all women.
sure, i've been studying and
have you tried Marie Heath from Goulburn or Jane Collings from Bowral.
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My New years resolution is to beat my internet addiction and find more
time in my life, Im still reading but not adding much!!
Cheers,
Di
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From: Sue Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:29 PM
Subject:
Hi Sue,
Perhaps...just a thought ..but maybe it's just
that it's summer sitting in front of a computer is not only time consuming
but very unhealthy. We are all so much more aware of what constitutes a quality
healthy lifestyle nowadays and as Di says,
Well Kelly, midwifery led care is the best way to get a great birth.
However if you are working inside a big system you are a product of what is
on offer. Even though the midwives maybe doing a great job ( and most are)
you cannot get away from the constraints placed on you by policy and
Hi all,
My email obviously went out about the direction of the list as I have
recieved a couple of personal replies but my own email and other replies
to the list have not appeared for me!!
So frustrating.
Can someone please email me copies of the discussion so I can participate??
Thanks,
I get so fustrated when I know people who choose subordinate (in my opinion)
levels of care. What I mean is, healthy women who choose care under an
obstetrician. They get roped into the high tech repeated u/s, monitoring,
for the just in case ignorant way of thinking. They end up having
O.k. I shall re-phrase :) If introducing midwifery-led care on a broad scale
has not helped due to policy or other restrictions, then what CAN work,
right now, no matter where women choose to give birth? Because there is
never going to be one place every woman chooses to give birth, not always
Hi Rachael,
I sometimes share your frustrations in wondering why on earth women choose
OB's to care for them - particularly when they whinge about them so much!
However what women are after is continuity of care because they want some
feeling of certainty over who is going to be with them when
Hi there,
Would someone please email me phone numbers for Marie and Jane, I just had
someone ask about independent midwives available for the Nowra area. Any
more suggestions or recommendations also very welcome.
Warm regards,
Lea Mason, AAHCC
Certified Bradley® Natural Childbirth Educator
Sue Cookson wrote:
Hi all,
My email obviously went out about the direction of the list as I have
recieved a couple of personal replies but my own email and other
replies to the list have not appeared for me!!
So frustrating.
Can someone please email me copies of the discussion so I can
Dear Kelly and all
Some additional information may assist you before you totally throw the NZ
model out the window.
For those of us who have lobbied at high levels, and been involved with
writing (and selling!) NMAP etc we needed to totally understand the good and
the bad of NZ.
Kelly your
I have a question for you wise women - will give you some background
first.
Young woman with a concealed or unacknowledged pregnancy at 26 weeks
presented with acute abdominal pain to a remote area health clinic. No
midwife was present and doctor had not practiced obstetrics for years.
Anne the pregnancy test reading levels of bHCG which are elevated
only in the first trimester and peak at 60-90 days post conception.
They then decrease after 10-11 weeks and plateau at 100-130 days at
a lower level that is maintained until birth and is not detectable by
2 weeks post
So many women DON'T believe they can birth well. They are so
afraid of the pain and afraid of something going wrong. Then is
becomes a self fulfilling prophecy and they are then so thankful
they had the obstetrician. I, also, am so frustrated at the
choices sometimes but it will take a huge shift
Hi Anne
Nothing further to add to Andreas comments except I am so glad to hear there is
a debriefing opportunity for this case. Congrats on your great work up North.
Wendy
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From: Anne Smith
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Cc: Anne Smith
Sent: Monday,
Dear all, I know we have covered this, however I have been back over the past
year and can't find any references. A women approached me about where to find
a suitable birthing pool. She has been told it should be a mtr deep and she
has only found the kids ones of 750cm. It will also need to
Some women just never spill bHCG, and just in general you can get a
false negative but pretty much never a false positive.
On 08/01/2007, at 2:59 PM, Andrea Quanchi wrote:
Anne the pregnancy test reading levels of bHCG which are elevated
only in the first trimester and peak at 60-90 days
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