César,
I like what you did with your LX memorial. Seeing my ol' LX #1
brought back a few memories.
I wish I knew how to put up a web page because I'd sure like to do
something similar.
--
Shel Belinkoff
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There are no rules for good photographs,
there are only good
Geeze, Shel, you make him sound like my kind of people.
William (I drank North Battleford water and lived) Robb
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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 4, 2001 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: Gerald's crass comment
Indeed, Gerald is a crass
ROFLMAO. Shel, you know me better than I know myself!
:)
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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: Gerald's crass comment
Indeed, Gerald is a crass son-of-bitch. He's self indulgent,
On Friday, May 04, 2001 3:06 PM, Chris Brogden [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
wrote:
I hope PDML members will still feel free to comment upon those submissions
where the contributor has completed the 'Comments to' box. I have always found
it useful to receive such comments, or indeed to notice
Hi,
the reassignment might be more than Chris would want to get involved
in, but not the emails between the reviewer and the cringing victim.
All it requires from the evil sadist is a form letter along the lines
of I've been assigned to review your photo in this month's PUG. What
do you hope to
Couldn't stand the colours on Purple Turtle. I like
Excite mail best.
There's always web-based mail. Purpleturtle.com,
for example, is
structured like hotmail but they donate 20% of their
advertising revenue
to sea turtle conservation. I'm sure there's other
good ones out there,
too.
That's too bad. I'm not trying to convince you to change your mind on this,
but I liked it for two reasons:
1. Personally, I wouldn't comment on images that don't do much for me. This
forces me to be critical of images that I might not otherwise comment on,
which I think in turn helps me with
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1235319674
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Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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Bob Blakely wrote:
This is why God made PhotoShop! Ever had the urge to touch it up?
I have, but I've left it. There are more pressing things to do, and I'd
probably end up rethinking so much of the shot that I'd wreck what I
like about it.
BTW, I see Lady MacBeth with longish (but not
Hi Chris,
I wasn't trying to kill the commentary, just suggesting a change.
My concern is that by making someone opt out you might completely isolate
them (even from the normal level of PUG commentary), whereas someone
opting in is signalling to the group that they would like even more
Ryan,
Complain to ebay. I had it happen to me. The complaint must have been the
2nd or third on the bidder as ebay canceled their user ID.
Regards, Bob S.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's been two months since I sold an item on eBay and
I got No Payment yet. I'm sure I never will from that
Thanks for the comment Adelheid,
Since the time I took the shot I've wondered myself whether including the
whole head in the photo would have improved it or not. I'll try similar
shots again sometime and see how they look :)
Bill G.
Bill Gekas: Wife with Fritz the Cat
I like this picture
Thanks for the nice comment.
It was around 10am in the summer, but the interior was
pretty dark. Very little light comes in since all the
windows are painted in dark colors (I got several
shots from that too, not yet scanned). The background
behind the statues is blue painted and lighted so
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the critiques are a BAD idea for the PUG.
I have not volunteered to critique photos because I don't like it and I don't want
to critique photos that don't move me.
I would like to respectfully, but strongly, disagree.
I know that I'm not a skilled
I've been following these recent discussions very loosely, so please
forgive me if similar comments and observations have already been made.
First, I enjoy reading and receiving comments and critiques, and not
just of my images. However, it seems that each month there's usually
only a very
Paul Stenquist wrote:
It's not just two countries that this photo depicts,
it is, realistically, two worlds. I find that an intriguing
thought.Overall, a very nice rendering of a somewhat conventional scene.
I agree totally with Paul's comments, I loved this shot!
fairy.
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Ryan:
There's nothing preventing him from sending negative feedback about you.
Comments should be explained and you have a chance to offer an explanation
that gets attached to the negative feedback.
A deadbeat buyer is a deadbeat buyer and should be noted accordingly. Have
you contacted the
XOSNI wrote:
I have a problem in my portraits: blinking eyes. I shoot in my mini studio
using a strobe flashes. The camera is pentax 6x7 with flash synchro speed
of 1/30. Why do I always get these blinking eyes? It has to be a
multifactorial cause, the relatively long exposure time
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Scene from work, this morning:
That's funny. When I buy stuff it's either shipped to where I work or
to my buddy McLaren's place, to avoid...uh...incidents.
-Aaron
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Treena wrote:
I ... respectfully disagree. I took that comment in a humorous manner as
his
way of making a point. Reminds me of a rather colorful relative, actually. I
basically got a chuckle out of it and went on. There's been worse posted on
the PDML, and I'm sure in the future I'll be
Gerald also wrote:
I am probably as far as a man can be from being a disgusting pig. This is
most offensive character attack I have ever experienced here. And it was
uncalled for.
Sorry Gerald, I forgot to respond to this in my last post. I just wanted to
point out that I did not say that
Actually, there is a way. Feedback can be left for up to 90 days.
I don't recall where on eBay I found this, but if you can find it,
wait until the 90th day and then leave the feedback. By then the
buyer will have probably forgotten about the incident, and IAC it
will be too late for a
Stan wrote:
Yes Tanya - I wasn't very clear in my comments, but in a back-handed way it
was complimentary. I agree with Mark's comments (which I alluded to) about
the marvelous shot you had on your page recently. ...
Thanks Stan, MUCH appreciated!!
If you are so blessed as to
be able to
http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?LeaveFeedbackShow
This is where you can leave feedback for up to 90 days after an
auction closes.
--
Shel Belinkoff
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There are no rules for good photographs,
there are only good photographs.
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A silly but scary episode:
I called Pentax Canada in Mississauga (near Toronto)
to ask a couple of questions about the MZ3.
customer service - ...so you have a question about
the MZ3 camera body... I'll transfer your call to a
technician that will be able to answer more
appropriately. ...
You have no protection from retaliatory feedback. You spin the wheel and
you take your chances.
I have dodged this problem by just chalking it up and not leaving feedback.
The bum I was dealing with sent me a piece of roadside trash that was billed
as like new in box. I sent it back, nearly
Hi all
My friendly distributor of all things Pentax (and Sigma) has been kind
enough to let me play with a Sigma 70-200 EX F2.8 zoom for a few days. He
is a nice chap. waves at John if he's reading
I ran off a roll of TMAX 100 at lunchtime, using it as a portrait lens. I
did shoot a couple
Exactly!
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How about this: Wait until the last *hour* of the 90 day period (I've found
eBay times everything to the second. Although I haven't tested it with the
90 day feedback limit, I'd bet it applies there as well.) That way they
won't find out about your feedback
Xosni wrote:
I have a problem in my portraits: blinking eyes. I shoot in my mini studio
using a strobe flashes. The camera is pentax 6x7 with flash synchro speed
of 1/30. Why do I always get these blinking eyes? It has to be a
multifactorial cause, the relatively long exposure time (1/30) the
Alexandre A. P. Suaide wrote:
It is so scary
Did you try to ask if he knows his name, address, age?
If he tells you his name, assure him that no one with that name works
for Pentax and tell him that maybe he works for Canon.
-Aaron
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Just a quick one.
I read recently here that there is a Chinese camera factory which bought
out the pentax production line for the K1000 and now market it under a
different brand. I didn't pass much heed to it at the time, but I was in my
local Camera store yesterday, and saw a brand called
Steve wrote in part:
Why not set up a photo.net critique/comment/rating system for each
image. This way, there's a greater chance that the average PDMLer will
sit back and comment while enjoying a frosty beverage on the first of
each month.
Hi Steve,
Respectfully this idea is what I have
Hi all,
I've been following the PUG comments thread and
would like to give my opinion.
I consider Shel's critique was too hard. How can one
call a photo 'amateurish' when nobody said the PUG was
reserved to pros? Also, most things 'have been
photographed thousands
of times, rarely to any great
Yes it stays - but if you focus at the short end and zoom to longer focal lengths you
must refocus - this is normal.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen
-Alkuperäinen viesti-
Lähettäjä: Frank Wajer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you Doug
It seems that some people are natural born blinkers. Some are not.
Anyways, I have another alomst off topic question: what difference would it
make if I use the FP socket at 1/30 instead of the X ?
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is the pug down or do I just have a bad link stored?
JeepinAngel
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I always warn them yes! I'll try to do the opposite.
Thanks
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From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: blinking eyes with Pentax 6x7
XOSNI wrote:
I have a problem in my portraits: blinking
Here's one K1000 clone...
http://www.mingca.com/
Hit Products, then Cameras, then choose from the two cameras.
Paul M. Provencher
(ppro)
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From: Terence Mac Goff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Centon K100
My assignment this month is to comment the shots of Ed Dombek, Mike Smith,
Patti Sundstrom and Ayash Kanto.
Cherry Rooster by Ed Dombek
That's what I call a lucky shot. You've been able to catch a very quick
movement and you have nicely put the subject not exactly in the center of the
frame
I also still favor the assignments. Here's why...
In the two months we've done it, I was assigned a number of photos I would
not have commented on normally. I found it difficult to comment on those
but I learned things from it anyway.
1. I really had to examine the image. It was easy to see
IronWorks (Maris V. Lidaka) wrote:
D. Glenn Arthur Jr's My Neighbourhood's a Real Circus
The picture is interesting but it needs cohesion. It has sparks in the
literal sense but not in the emotional. The first thing that struck me was
the lack of focus, and the foggy tonality of the
This is the way it should work.
tv
D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:
IronWorks (Maris V. Lidaka) wrote:
D. Glenn Arthur Jr's My Neighbourhood's a Real Circus
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Jon Hope explained:
Where I disagree with Jon is on the
notion that this has anything to do with modern, feature-full
bodies.
There have been that many animated discussions on this list about the evils
of modern cameras I thought I'd just get a small dig in. LOL
Jon, I apologize for
Tonghang Zhou mentioned:
I see a camera basically
as a metering device.
Not my H3, S1a, and H1a! ;-)
-- Glenn
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Quoth Fairy:
Todd wrote:
- -10 to 0 degrees C isn't even cold. The camera will be fine.
It's cold enough for me! There's no use if my camera's work, but my fingers
are frozen!
That's actually one of the things I really like about the KX:
I can work it with my winter gloves on. Sure,
Bill P wrote
I like your story, and I like your suggestion. In my former life -- not as
any sort of artist, but as a publishing academic in the physical sciences --
I got used to some occasionally biting reviews on research grants and
journal manuscripts. But it made all of us in the group more
I just used the link at the bottom of the message and it worked even for my
feeble attempt.
Cy Galley
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
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From: jeepgirl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:46 AM
I haven't messed around too much with different BW photo papers, the
Polycontrast III does what I like so I use it. It seems to have a lot of
punch when printed on with slightly overexposed negatives. I have used
Ilford and don't care much for it, though I like the color of their cool
tone
I recieved a harsh criticism on my submission to the most recent
PUG. Oh, it was politely phrased, but it was still harsh. You
know what? I'd still like to see the PUG commentaries continue.
I don't think we _need_ a formal system for comments and ciriticism,
but I'll say this: it does make
Bob Poe wrote:
CARUCHAS by Albano Garcia. The wide angle distortion
enhances the individual facial expressions. A fun
picture.
Thanks for the comment, Bob
albano
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I have watched the furror over the critiques. Not being honest and just
saying nice things is counter productive. The shooter will keep using the
same poor technique unless someone is honest and tells them that there is a
better way. It is sort of like telling a math student that 2 times 3 is 7
Interesting. Who thinks that standard lens that comes with the camera has
a strange resemblence to the M 50mm F1.7?
Todd
At 12:48 PM 5/4/01 -0400, you wrote:
Here's one K1000 clone...
http://www.mingca.com/
Hit Products, then Cameras, then choose from the two cameras.
Paul M. Provencher
Are you sure that you can leave feedback after that time?
I guess, there's still the time limit after which you can't give any more
feedback.
I think the limit is 90 days.
regards,
Alan Chan
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D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:
I recieved a harsh criticism on my submission to the most recent
PUG. Oh, it was politely phrased, but it was still harsh. You
know what? I'd still like to see the PUG commentaries continue.
I don't think we _need_ a formal system for comments and ciriticism,
Glenn wrote:
I recieved a harsh criticism on my submission to the most recent
PUG. Oh, it was politely phrased, but it was still harsh. You know
what? I'd still like to see the PUG commentaries continue
Hi Glenn,
I couldn't agree more. I'd also like to see the commentaries continue.
In a message dated 4/5/01 6:07:55 pm, you wrote:
SoDoes anyone know who centon are? I know they are affiliated with
Jessops in the UK (Large camera chain), but as the camera body was only
about IR£90, which is extremely reasonable, its interesting.
The only affiliation is that Big J
Joseph Tainter wrote:
Okay, I checked Boz's site and see that the 70-210 F4-5.6 Takumar F
Autofocus did not have SMC coating.
Does anyone know whether it was otherwise the same optically as the SMC
F 70-210 Autofocus?
No, it isn't. They are different optically, and the SMC-F has got
I was at the photo store the other day when they were commenting on
a major developing job concerning numerous rolls taken at a charity event
this past weekend. I guess the organizers were promised a very quick
turnaround of the photos.
Anyway, the lady in charge of the lab
Hi,
That's pretty much exactly how I feel.
I still find it a bit hard to understand how someone could submit
an image to the PUG, but not want it to be discussed.
I submitted the 2 I did (years ago) on the 'show me your photos'
principle. Since I was allowing myself the luxury of mouthing
Ryan K. Brooks wrote:
Maybe
I'm an idiot for not knowing this existed.
Those of us in labs lose them thingies by the truckload. :) Non-lab
people seem mezmerized by the fact that such a device exists.
My fave is the one from Kaiser, but they all do the job (the Kaiser one
is just
Cesar:
I enjoyed the little page. Your oldest LX is what I call a beauty
: - )
Regards
Albano (owner of two LXs)
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Carlos Royo escribió:
No, it isn't. They are different optically, and the SMC-F has got an ED
(estra low dispersion) element.
I meant EXTRA low dispersion. I have to check my messages for spelling
mistakes before hitting the send button, or perhaps I have to become a
better typist.
Another eBay auction someone may be interested in (not my own):
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1234211362
Currently $24.99, no bids, two days to go.
Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY
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Rabid skunks, God bless 'em, promote alertness, increased cardio vascular
fitness, and a general appreciation of the virtues of good running shoes.
Dan Scott ;-)
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So maybe those terse, harsh,
information-lacking comments are useful for something after all -- if for no
other
What do you learn when your photo is ignored? Is there a way that
you've found to interpret silence, especially silence on a mailing
list?
--
Shel Belinkoff
You learn that your photo wasn't a big hit with anyone.
Dan Scott
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Well, maybe, but that's only an assumption. Perhaps the photo was
well liked by several people, but they just didn't comment. You
can't learn anything from silence.
Dan Scott wrote:
What do you learn when your photo is ignored? Is there a way that
you've found to interpret silence,
Pauls Picture
Paul said:
Still waiting for the comment on mine for this month
:)
OK, Paul, when I saw this, I thought snapshot, whose
purpose was to record part of a holiday experience.
When I looked a bit longer, it occured to me that the
girlfriend is in a fairly intense concentration
Bob Poe wrote:
WOOD DUCK by Steve Larson. To me, this is the most
jewel like image in this month's PUG.
Bob, you`re too kind! Thanks for the kind words.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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On Fri, 4 May 2001 23:17:24 +1000, Tanya Russell Mayer wrote:
It's not just two countries that this photo depicts,
it is, realistically, two worlds. I find that an intriguing
thought.Overall, a very nice rendering of a somewhat conventional scene.
I agree totally with Paul's comments, I loved
On Thu, 03 May 2001 23:52:26 -0400, PAUL STENQUIST wrote:
Two Countries, Gary L. Murphy
it is, realistically, two worlds. I find that an intriguing
thought.Overall, a very nice rendering of a somewhat conventional scene.
Thanks, Paul. Yup, there's always a trade off. :-)
Actually, I learned
I just bought a Rollei 35 ( heresy!) off ebay
with the Schneider lens ( 40mm F3.5 ). Based on the
first roll. THIS LENS IS KILLER SHARP. No light falloff
in the corners either. Neat little toy but scale focusing
SUCKS. Three times I forgot to refocus. But when i did
I had no problem guesstimating
Dan Scott wrote:
What do you learn when your photo is ignored? Is there a way that
you've found to interpret silence, especially silence on a mailing
list?
--
Shel Belinkoff
You learn that your photo wasn't a big hit with anyone.
But you do not learn whether it is just bland,
http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/mitsuba.txt
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jeepgirl wrote:
I
for one plan on being here till the day I die or the list shuts down...
Aren't you fellows lucky? :)
jeepin Angel
Yep, we're lucky. But what's this jeepin Angel stuff. Does that mean
you've reformed?
Paul
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On Saturday, May 05, 2001 3:31 AM, Bob Poe [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
I, too found this month's images to my liking. I
could say that about every month's PUG, so I thought I
may as well offer a few thoughts/feelings about how
some of them affected me:
DAYDREAMER by Amber Dayton. What
Ready for Action!
by Doug Tankersley, USA
One of my favorites! Nice work Doug. I`ve tried many shots of Hibiscus,
but have failed to capture the beauty of them as you have in that photo.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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Joseph Tainter writes:
As for Shel's comment...when photographers or artists exhibit their
work, obviously they hope to direct attention to it. If you viscerally
dislike a photograph, just ignoring the submittal accomplishes a lot.
When one of my PUG submittals garners no comments, I learn
I know I would. I churn out an awful lot of work every week, and most of it
never gets a remark from anyone. I've found out that doesn't mean it was
ignored as being boring or uninteresting, just that most people didn't
comment on it. When I do get comments they are either very favorable or very
On one trip to Britain, I spent some time in the Jessops in Bournemouth.
The prices on used SLRs looked pretty good compared to the U.S., and I
was shopping for my wife. The salesman tried to talk me into a Centon
35-70 lens in K mount. It's Jessops' brand, but I don't know who made
it.
Joe
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