Re: shift lens or shift and tilt len

2003-06-25 Thread Hans Imglueck
Hi, the effect of tilt is higher at smaller focus length. Best regards, Hans. --- adphoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for the replies these are the 3 i have found on ebay and i take it from the respnses that the 80mm would be the best to have tilt with am i correct or would the 35mm be the

MZ-S problem

2003-06-25 Thread Petter Jarbo
A question for the MZ-S owners out there. Have you ever experienced scratches on the outside (not the emulsion side) of the film? I have and I'm suspecting my MZ-S is to blame. Could you please take a look at this picture and tell me what you think. http://w1.431.telia.com/~u43105651/ The

Re: MZ-S problem

2003-06-25 Thread Alan Chan
I don't have MZ-S, but you can try to load a flesh set of scratch free film and the rewind it with leader out. See if there is any scratch. You should know the result instantly. regards, Alan Chan A question for the MZ-S owners out there. Have you ever experienced scratches on the outside (not

Re: MZ-S problem

2003-06-25 Thread Alan Chan
But it sounds like a lab problem to me. You don't get scratch this way with 2 or 3 frames only in the middle of the roll. regards, Alan Chan I don't have MZ-S, but you can try to load a flesh set of scratch free film and the rewind it with leader out. See if there is any scratch. You should

Re: MZ-S problem

2003-06-25 Thread Alin Flaider
Looks like a grain of sand found its way on the pressure plate when you loaded that particular roll. No wonder judging by the quantity of dust your camera displays in the picture - and no offense intended. It happened to me a couple of times, and ever since I take the time to brush the

Re: Way OT, help translate Japanese

2003-06-25 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
Don't know, but you might try running the page through Babelfish translating. Maris Steve Larson wrote: Hi, Could anyone tell me where the email or contact link on this page is: http://www.rakuten.co.jp/4wd-tuhan/ Thanks, Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California

Re: Way OT, help translate Japanese

2003-06-25 Thread Steve Larson
Thanks, Ken an Jerome found it for me. Silly me, there was a link for email in english at the bottom of the page. Thanks again! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Maris V. Lidaka Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003

Re: Happy Pentax to me

2003-06-25 Thread Anthony Farr
My first camera: Pentax SP1000 SMCT 55/2, 1975 My first Pentax: see above regards, Anthony Farr

OT: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Christian Skofteland
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062502leicadigitalr9.asp Christian

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Andre Langevin
Bob S.: I can say that the A85mm f1.4 is sharper, but the size frightens small children and dogs, not to mention the relatives you might want candid portraits of. You mean dogs bark at the f1.4 lens but keep quiet when you shoot them with the f2 lens? Does the front element makes it? I mean,

RE: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062502leicadigitalr9.asp Christian Wow. tv

DSLR sales

2003-06-25 Thread Blivit4
DSLR sales this year are projected to be in the 600,000 - 1,000,000 range. Canon is selling 30,000 10Ds a month and can't keep up with demand. I Pentax can't get a decent piece of this market they are beyond hopeless. Full article here: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062501oly9.asp

Revised GFM page done

2003-06-25 Thread Mark Roberts
I've revised my Grandfather Mountain photo page - eliminated some old shots that no longer made the grade and added some new stuff from this year. http://www.robertstech.com/g_father.htm -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Mark Roberts
tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062502leicadigitalr9.asp Christian Wow. Yeah. If the $4,500 price holds true it's really cheap (for Leica). -- Mark Roberts Photography

RE: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062502leicadigitalr9.asp Christian Wow. Yeah. If the

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 10:52, tom wrote: Wow. tv My first thought too. Christian

Re: Way OT, help translate Japanese

2003-06-25 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
It's always good to check bottoms :-) Maris - Original Message - From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:55 AM Subject: Re: Way OT, help translate Japanese Thanks, Ken an Jerome found it for me. Silly me, there was a link for email

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Th. Stach
Mark Roberts schrieb: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062502leicadigitalr9.asp Christian Wow, indeed. But why then can't Pentax develop such a back for an MZ-S or

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Evan Hanson
I had to run over to leica.com to check this out. Umm, Tom's right wow. I didn't see this one coming. Evan From: Christian Skofteland Subject: Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back. On Wednesday 25 June 2003 10:52, tom wrote: Wow. tv My first thought too. Christian

RE: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Peter Alling
Wasn't there a huge debate some time ago where this concept was widely decided to be impractical? It looks like a nicely integrated digital back on a manual film advance manual focus camera. At 10:52 AM 6/25/03 -0400, you wrote: -Original Message- From: Christian Skofteland

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Anthony Farr
It's the medium format way of doing things but, excepting the earlier multiscan backs, an electronic interface to control the digi back needs to be built into the camera body. Leica R8/R9s evidently have the required interface. A full time DSLR doesn't need that interface because its digital

Takumar Ultra-Achromatic lenses

2003-06-25 Thread Andre Langevin
Has anybody tried some of the three Ultra-Achromatic lenses for visible light photography? Andre --

Screen for bright lenses: SA-23 or new 60s?

2003-06-25 Thread Andre Langevin
I already know what Pentax say in their tables, but, from your experience, is the SA-23 screen a better choice than the 60 series for low light photography with bright lenses (mostly K50/1.4, A85/1.4, 135/1.8 and occasionnally K28/2, K35/2, 200/2.5)? Thanks, Andre --

Re: Happy Pentax to me

2003-06-25 Thread Lon Williamson
Joe was foolish enough to sell his KX to me. Big mistake. _HUGE_ mwahahaha. BTW, Joe, it's KX body number two for me. I have one I like a tad better. Had the shutter and meter checked: the one you sold me is accurate enough to shoot slide film. Meter dead on, about 1/3 stop

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Caveman
Th. Stach wrote: Wow, indeed. But why then can't Pentax develop such a back for an MZ-S or LX? Not even for the 645 ? cheers, caveman

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Dag T
På onsdag, 25. juni 2003, kl. 19:25, skrev Caveman: Th. Stach wrote: Wow, indeed. But why then can't Pentax develop such a back for an MZ-S or LX? Not even for the 645 ? Wasn´t there some news saying that they would? DagT

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Caveman
Dag T wrote: Not even for the 645 ? Wasn´t there some news saying that they would? IIRC they were speaking of a new body, not a back for the existing one ?

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Interesting comment on Luminous Landscape in the blurb about the Leica digital back: Now, all we need to hear next is what Nikon has up its sleeves. There are lots of rumours buzzing around knowledgeable Nikon circles, but let's just wait to see what the next few weeks bring. Interesting that he

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Peter Alling
Based on my understanding of how the LX motor drive works there is no reason something like this couldn't be built for that body. I don't know about the MZ-S. (Unless you're talking at extremely big bucks a sensor for the 645 wouldn't really take advantage of the format anyway). At 01:25 PM

Re: OT, and Very Silly

2003-06-25 Thread Brendan
Dave try to sneak into the dome with a 400mm F5.6, and see what the guards think it is lol. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You shoulda seen the looks I got when I whipped out my big long 70-200 2.8 L lens.. *smirk* Cheers, Dave P.S. a full blown TOPDML should be had

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Blivit4
Excerpt from: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=005K61 Today, I saw this message from David Dentry from Nikon USA in the D1 Discussion Digest. Mr. Dentry has made it clear that his message respresents the official Nikon position: HI Ok, everyone take a deep breath...

Re: Optio S advertising

2003-06-25 Thread Bill Owens
Christian has noted. Have you picked up a photo magazine lately? Nikon and Canon advertise the crap out of their DSLRs and digicams as well as their film offerings from consumer to pro grade. What's so sad is that I have yet to see an ad for the Optio S which is such a big hit for Pentax,

OT: Nikon F mount (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)

2003-06-25 Thread Caveman
I wonder how Mr. Dentry explains why the F80 and lower don't meter with all the lenses produced in these past 50 years. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clearly the current lens mount system works and it would be silly for us to alienate 50 years of lens purchasers. Hope this is clear! -David -- --

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Dag T
Well, the company bringing Nikon into Norway still has an explanation why nobody, and especially not Nikon, will ever make a full format chip. It´s fun reading, for those who understand Norwegian: http://www.interfoto.no/artikkelarkiv/

Re: OT, and Very Silly

2003-06-25 Thread Joshua Hakin
What is a TOPDML On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 08:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You shoulda seen the looks I got when I whipped out my big long 70-200 2.8 L lens.. *smirk* Cheers, Dave P.S. a full blown TOPDML should be had soon.. Original Message: - From: [EMAIL

Re: OT: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Joshua Hakin
First of all, I don't know why nobody has done this yet, it seems long overdue since medium format has been doing it since... how long? Second: those Leica R systems are GORGEOUS! Joshua Hakin www.hakinphoto.com On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 10:44 AM, Christian Skofteland wrote:

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Rfsindg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] asks: You mean dogs bark at the f1.4 lens but keep quiet when you shoot them with the f2 lens? No, they all hide in the corner when the f1.4 comes out. ;-) Does the front element makes it? I mean, would a 85/2 on a PZ-1 or K camera be fine while a 85/1.4 on a

Re: Happy Pentax to me

2003-06-25 Thread Joe Wilensky
Yes, Lon, I still miss that KX. But I have two MXes now, and they fit my hands better -- although I don't mind the larger PZ-1 (it is far more ergonomic, though) or the ESII, which isn't ergonomic at all and may be larger than the KX, even. Go figure. Joe Joe was foolish enough to sell his

Re: OT: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Dag T
På onsdag, 25. juni 2003, kl. 21:12, skrev Joshua Hakin: First of all, I don't know why nobody has done this yet, it seems long overdue since medium format has been doing it since... how long? Maybe most cameras where too cheap. It was easier and just as cheap to have two. Second: those Leica

Re: OT: No digital trickery here!

2003-06-25 Thread Caveman
Cotty wrote: I swear to God, this *photograph* has not been manipulated other than Curves adjustment, Unsharp Mask, and a slight crop... http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/grabs/images/pic19.html Nice *web page* ;-) cheers, caveman

RE: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Pål Jensen
Peter wrote: Wasn't there a huge debate some time ago where this concept was widely decided to be impractical? It looks like a nicely integrated digital back on a manual film advance manual focus camera. REPLY: It seems pretty impractical to me! The thing is huge! In 1,5 years time DSLR with

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Pål Jensen
Thomas wrote: But why then can't Pentax develop such a back for an MZ-S or LX? Silly question? I'd be happy with such a back and would pay for it the price of an *ist-D I think. No need for another body... After all, manufacturers from Chinon to Zeiss where presenting mockups of such backs since

Re: DSLR sales

2003-06-25 Thread Pål Jensen
Bruce wrote: DSLR sales this year are projected to be in the 600,000 - 1,000,000 range. Canon is selling 30,000 10Ds a month and can't keep up with demand. I Pentax can't get a decent piece of this market they are beyond hopeless. REPLY: Agreed. Provided the numbers are correct.I can remember

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Pål Jensen
Caveman wrote: IIRC they were speaking of a new body, not a back for the existing one ? REPLY: It was a bit unclear. It sounded like a digital back for a coming MF camera. Or it could be a digital camera using MF lenses. I'm almost sure it is not a digital back for current camera models. Pål

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Pål Jensen
Bruce quoted: NIKON IS NOT PLANNING ON CHANGING THE STANDARD F MOUNT ON NEW CAMERAS. REPLY: The statement can be understood in two ways. Even if Nikon release another mount the statement stoill holds true. So basically, they avoided the issue and said really nothing except that they won't

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Dag T
På onsdag, 25. juni 2003, kl. 22:25, skrev Pål Jensen: Oh and a film advance level on a DSLR make it look like some Frankestein monster! :o) I think it looks like an advanced dSLR :-) DagT

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Caveman
Pål Jensen wrote: From a technical point of view such a camera is nothing but a bastard. I believe the concept is weird too. Maybe you should post this on the Mamiya and Hasselblad lists too.

Re: OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere

2003-06-25 Thread Pål Jensen
Sylwek wrote: Actually E-1 body is bigger and heavier by 150g than *ist D. And it has only 5 MPix... You are right - only some specialized pros will buy it (mainly for weather sealed body and lenses) REPLY: But they have probably figured out that the the way to crack the consumer market is

RE: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Jens Bladt
Hi Arnold Impressive work you've done. I just made simple portrait shots in B/W with some above 80mm lenses - they all looked alike - except for the SMCF70-210mm, which seemed to beat both the M2.0/85mm, the K105, and A135mm (unfortunately I dont have a A*1.4/85mm) as far as sharpness is

Re: OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere

2003-06-25 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Pål Jensen wrote: But they have probably figured out that the the way to crack the consumer market is through the professional segment. Look at Nikon and Canon. They have even created site for pros: http://www.olympus-pro.com/index.eu.en.html This can be good way.

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Pål Jensen
I wrote: Anyway, these current digital news breaking is mostly to signalise to the market that the manufacturer have plans for digital solutions for their systems. I for one expect Minolta soon to disclose their DSLR. Actually, at closer scrutiny this seem like nothing but an attempt to

Re: OT: No digital trickery here!

2003-06-25 Thread Keith Whaley
I like the one with the caption, Here, have some more crisps, little gurl! Oh, I see he's removed the caption. Well, never mind... The second one I particularly like is, the one where the gent who has the Mona Lisa smile is passing out half-filled glasses of some libation. No doubt he's smiling

Re: Pentax advertising (was Re: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux)

2003-06-25 Thread Alan Chan
Have you picked up a photo magazine lately? Nikon and Canon advertise the crap out of their DSLRs and digicams as well as their film offerings from consumer to pro grade. What's so sad is that I have yet to see an ad for the Optio S which is such a big hit for Pentax, yet I've seen ads for the

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Alan Chan
The time that I still had my FA*85/1.4, everyone was frightened whenever I point that damn thing at them. Everyone of them were amazed by how big the hood was. No such problem with the 77. :-) regards, Alan Chan You mean dogs bark at the f1.4 lens but keep quiet when you shoot them with the

Re: Happy Pentax to me

2003-06-25 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
A bit late, as usual... Taking a look at my old negatives, I've found a roll marked #2, from my first K-1000, which is 9 years old (May 1994). My first cameras are the following: Kodak Instamatic, 1986 (the first camera I can call mine, I had it from my father when he was given a FX-3 super

Re: Pentax advertising (was Re: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux)

2003-06-25 Thread ukasz Kacperczyk
That's really the flaw of the regional offices. There are constant ads in Japanese magazines. Here in Poland, we have a very peculiar situation. On the one hand, there's lots of Pentax advertising in photographic magazines (of the MZ-S, now the Optios - and I mean BIG advertisements, like a

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread T Rittenhouse
There are a lot of vaporware words in that press release but, it sure is interesting. Note: how close to the serface the sensors are, and it still has to set into the film gate. I guess that gives it enough clearance for the shutter though. Wonder if they actually have a working prototype yet.

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Andre Langevin
The time that I still had my FA*85/1.4, everyone was frightened whenever I point that damn thing at them. Everyone of them were amazed by how big the hood was. No such problem with the 77. :-) regards, Alan Chan You mean dogs bark at the f1.4 lens but keep quiet when you shoot them with the

digital backs (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)

2003-06-25 Thread mishka
apparently not true. kodak has one-shot backs for hassies 500* and swc. as far as i can tell, there's no digital interface on the back of 500c. mishka From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back. It's the medium format way of doing things but, excepting the earlier

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Andre Langevin Subject: Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one? The A85/1.4 hood is monstrous also, but with a cooler shade, the lens is not that frightening I think. A nice hood I found for it is the one for the Hexanon 85-210/3.5. I can even reverse

Re: OT: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Caveman
Jens Bladt wrote: Imacon: Actually - according to Imacon's web site, the Ixpress (medium format back) can make up to 384 MB files - one picture, that is! That's more than 20 times the *ist D and many other cameras! This quite answers the question are 6 MP enough. cheers, caveman

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Caveman
William Robb wrote: Non professional subjects tend to be intimidated by large equipment. I sense a lewd something here ;-) cheers, caveman

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Caveman Subject: Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one? Non professional subjects tend to be intimidated by large equipment. I sense a lewd something here ;-) You would. William Robb

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
This is why the people skills of a photographer are very important for things like wedding photography. Every bride has a concept of what a bride should look like, but doesn't realize that the marketed bride image is that of professional models. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Non professional

Re: OT, and Very Silly

2003-06-25 Thread brooksdj
Yeah, a big TOPDML should be in the offing. , Jeff was wondering when the Beaches Jazz Fest is. That's actually better than Downtown in terms of photo ops. Lots more street action. cheers, frank Hummm.Jazz AND Blues look good in BW.I have lots

Part two:Macro experiment

2003-06-25 Thread brooksdj
Ok gang,question time. Who here,besides me,has used stop down metering but did not stop down. one,two three...ha i new i was not the only one. Comical results of the experiment seems to be this. First attempt was using the SP with K adaptor

Re: OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere

2003-06-25 Thread mishka
actually, weather sealed body was the #1 reason for me to buy LX and not to buy MZ-S. you know, a very special situation called rain happens pretty often here. not to mention even more special instance of ocean beach g best, mishka Sylwek wrote: Actually E-1 body is bigger and heavier by 150g

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Steve Larson
That would sure make me happy, a digital back for the LX. Too bad Pentax doesn`t support it`s only pro 35mm camera anymore. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 11:09 AM

Re: OT, and Very Silly

2003-06-25 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Dave, Nope. Don't know when Beaches Jazz is, but I think it's usually in July some time. Once I know dates, I'll let everyone know. cheers, frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hummm.Jazz AND Blues look good in BW.I have lots in the fridge.Sounds good to moi.Any idea on the

Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-25 Thread Caveman
Bruce Rubenstein wrote: Every bride has a concept of what a bride should look like, but doesn't realize that the marketed bride image is that of professional models. Knowing your veneration to professional everything... did you get a professional bride too ? cheers, caveman

Re: OT, and Very Silly

2003-06-25 Thread Caveman
frank theriault wrote: Don't know when Beaches Jazz is, but I think it's usually in July some time. 1st July. Quebec celebrates it by relocating. cheers, caveman

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Joshua Hakin
What makes the LX more pro than the MZS??? That would sure make me happy, a digital back for the LX. Too bad Pentax doesn`t support it`s only pro 35mm camera anymore. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California

Re: digital backs (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)

2003-06-25 Thread Anthony Farr
Interesting. Do you know how the backs are controlled? My guess would be that either they use X-synch from the lens to signal the back when capture should commence, or they totally bypass the shutter system of the camera and use their own 'virtual' shutter. regards, Anthony Farr - Original

Re: digital backs (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)

2003-06-25 Thread Caveman
Anthony Farr wrote: Interesting. Do you know how the backs are controlled? My guess would be that either they use X-synch from the lens to signal the back when capture should commence, or they totally bypass the shutter system of the camera and use their own 'virtual' shutter. Supposing there's

Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)

2003-06-25 Thread Caveman
Joshua Hakin wrote: What makes the LX more pro than the MZS??? OTF metering. A feature not to be found in entry level cameras. cheers, caveman ;-)

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Christian Skofteland
- Original Message - From: Joshua Hakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] What makes the LX more pro than the MZS??? Oh, GOD! Not Again! Christian

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Peter Alling
For the time, dust/moisture seals, 5 frame/sec motor, interchangeable screens and finders, high reliability shutter, well I guess what I'd say is it's direct competition for the Nikon F3. The MZ-S is aimed at the F100 class of camera, but that's only some peoples opinion. Mine is that a

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Steve Larson
It had a complete system, better EV range, full range of focus screens, interchangable finders, bigger viewfinder, lets you choose motor or winder or go light. I personally would not rate the MZ-S as a pro camera. I`m not knocking the MZ-S at all, I am going to get one. Steve Larson Redondo

Re: Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)

2003-06-25 Thread Steve Larson
That`s the biggie Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:24 PM Subject: Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.) Joshua Hakin wrote: What makes the LX more pro

Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)

2003-06-25 Thread Caveman
Peter Alling wrote: a professional camera is what a professional uses Professionals have used about each and every camera that was ever manufactured. According to this def, all cameras are professional. cheers, caveman ;-)

Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.

2003-06-25 Thread Steve Larson
What a sweet setup, I think I`ll shoot film today and digital tomorrow. Choices are good! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:44 AM Subject: OT: Leica R9/R8

Re: Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)

2003-06-25 Thread Bill Owens
Joshua Hakin wrote: What makes the LX more pro than the MZS??? OTF metering. A feature not to be found in entry level cameras. cheers, caveman ;-) Except the now departed Olympus OM-10 Bill

Re: Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)

2003-06-25 Thread Caveman
Bill Owens wrote: OTF metering. A feature not to be found in entry level cameras. Except the now departed Olympus OM-10 Does not have interchangeable viewfinders. Another feature not to be found in entry level cameras. cheers, caveman ;-)

Re: digital backs (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)

2003-06-25 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 10:06 PM, Anthony Farr wrote: Interesting. Do you know how the backs are controlled? My guess would be that either they use X-synch from the lens to signal the back when capture should commence, or they totally bypass the shutter system of the camera and use

Re: OT, and Very Silly

2003-06-25 Thread Brendan
EEEK thats a monster range finder lol. --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff, who's unsubbed for a while, sent me a couple of shots from last weekend's Pentax-less TOPDML. The band was a very good tribute to Django. I still think Jeff's Fuji 690 is freakishly large:

Re: Happy Pentax to me

2003-06-25 Thread Scott D
first camera: polaroid, 1980 something first pentax: zx-m, may 7th 2003 Anthony Farr wrote: My first camera: Pentax SP1000 SMCT 55/2, 1975 My first Pentax: see above regards, Anthony Farr

Vs: Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)

2003-06-25 Thread Raimo Korhonen
So Pentax LX and Olympus OM-2 were the only professional cameras in the world? Actually OTF has bad points as well as good ones, probably more bad ones because it never caught on with other manufacturers. And there was the entry level OM-10. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at