RE: Huge price differences for photo equipment (Was polarizer before)

2004-08-29 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi John of course you are right when it comes to the S-HMC and multicoated type of filters. They are rarely found second hand and the prices you quoted seem to be about the same here. I have never seen a S-HMC filter second hand and the yellow Pentax filter was not SMC too. I see UV or skylight

Books/Sites on 67II

2004-08-29 Thread Pat Curran
Don't worry Pat, I thought it was really funny Thanks Cory :) While setting about selling some 35mm shots to picture libraries and waiting for some extra cash from the (I hope) sales, I would like to learn as much as possible about the 67II. Can anyone recommend useful books or sites on this

Re: Books/Sites on 67II

2004-08-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Pat Curran Subject: Books/Sites on 67II Don't worry Pat, I thought it was really funny Thanks Cory :) While setting about selling some 35mm shots to picture libraries and waiting for some extra cash from the (I hope) sales, I would like to learn as much

Re: A3 prints from *istD

2004-08-29 Thread Toralf Lund
John Francis wrote: On Aug 28, 2004, at 12:08 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 20:09:45 +0200, Toralf Lund wrote: [...] to get real picture quality, you ought to have enough information to print at 1200dpi [...] Most paper can't hold more than 200-300 dpi.

Re: More 35mm vs digital (price, upgradability...)

2004-08-29 Thread Toralf Lund
Antonio wrote: Are you seriously suggesting that there are still markets out there that cannot support film? Where exactly where you thinking of? Where you referring to my post now, or the other guy's? Personally I feel I know to little about those things, as I've said earlier. I'm sure there

RE: Anybody still using an external (analog) lightmeter

2004-08-29 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Shel thanks, I like late replies too... :-) I enjoyed your thoughts about film processing and b/w film. greetings Markus Hi Markus, A bit late, but thought I'd jump in anyway. Until recently I used an analog Pentax Spotmeter V as well as a Zone VI

Re: Sometimes I like grain!

2004-08-29 Thread Toralf Lund
Herb Chong wrote: there are dozens, ranging from free to expensive. the expensive ones typically do noise reduction too as part of their set of capabilities. OK. I haven't really been paying attention. But I was referring to a specific film that was discontinued a few years ago. I had this

Re: I enjoy film

2004-08-29 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
Nope, on football/soccer. Alex Sarbu - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 11:09 AM Subject: Re: I enjoy film Hi, I recall Valentin complaints were generated when he lived in Romania as well. Perhaps it is

Re: Prodigal returns

2004-08-29 Thread mike wilson
No sense of adventure, Malcolm. 8-) Malcolm Smith wrote: mike wilson wrote: As my tent was new, I spent most nights listening to the unfamiliar noises it was making in the gales, rather than sleeping. The next day's sailing of the catamaran was cancelled. Camping in the UK?? On the two

Re: Sometimes I like grain!

2004-08-29 Thread Herb Chong
Grain Surgery can simulate just about any real film you want. it's one of the most expensive ones. there's more to simulating a film than just putting in the right grain, but it's one of the most important steps. Herb... - Original Message - From: Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: Books/Sites on 67II

2004-08-29 Thread Pix
At one time, I was determined to jump into this system, then I picked one up! :) Along the way, I picked up some links on the 67, some of which cover the 67II: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax67ii.shtml http://medfmt.8k.com/mf/pentax67.html t On 8/29/04 7:01, William

Re: More 35mm vs digital (price, upgradability...)

2004-08-29 Thread Toralf Lund
Toralf Lund wrote: Antonio wrote: Are you seriously suggesting that there are still markets out there that cannot support film? Where exactly where you thinking of? Where you referring to my post now, or the other guy's? Personally I feel I know to little about those things, as I've said

Re: More 35mm vs digital (price, upgradability...)

2004-08-29 Thread Steve Desjardins
A couple of things: 1. I'm not in any great rush to move up to an 8 or 10 MP camera. 6 Mp is working fine for me, although I'll probably buy a better DSLR at some point because it seems I get the bug to buy a new camera every 5 or 6 years. And, since the *istD doesn't take a proprietary

Re: More 35mm vs digital (price, upgradability...)

2004-08-29 Thread Bob W
Hi, Are you seriously suggesting that there are still markets out there that cannot support film? Where exactly where you thinking of? Where you referring to my post now, or the other guy's? Personally I feel I know to little about those things, as I've said earlier. I'm sure there

RE: Prodigal returns

2004-08-29 Thread Malcolm Smith
mike wilson wrote: No sense of adventure, Malcolm. 8-) Well, obviously my concern is for the camera equipment in such conditions (ahem, cough splutter). My eldest son was invited on a school camping trip last term; when I asked him if he wanted to go, he gave me a look of horror normally

Re: Huge price differences for photo equipment (Was polarizer before)

2004-08-29 Thread Raimo K
Uncoated glass surface reflects 4% of the light falling on it, single coated surface reflects 1.5% and multicoated - theoretically - 0.2%. Theoretical minimum is hard to get in practice. The above according to Leica expert Günther Osterloh (in the book Angewandte Leica-Technik). All the best!

Re: Huge price differences for photo equipment (Was polarizer before)

2004-08-29 Thread Caveman
Ah. The Leica experts. They first reduced film format to match it to 4x6 prints then spent a fortune to develop expensive lenses that could give you some larger prints from that format. Raimo K wrote: The above according to Leica expert Günther Osterloh (in the book Angewandte Leica-Technik).

Seen on dpreview

2004-08-29 Thread Joseph Tainter
Pentax advertises -- at 2 AM. I don't know where this fellow is located. Joe -- I was sitting up about 2a.m. watching TV and an interesting commercial came on. There are 4 major camera companies, it starts out. Canon, Olympus, Fuji, and Pentax, it continues, Only one is the official

Subject: Changing photo market (was It's over, Ilford in trouble, digi snappers)

2004-08-29 Thread George Sinos
Earlier William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] while discussing the death of digital, mentioned the brief period in the late 80's when the popularity of compact video cameras caused a temporary dip in film processing. I think the transition to digital is causing some very interesting changes in the

RE: Keep Rollei 6003 6x6 or get Pentax 645N II?

2004-08-29 Thread keller.schaefer
I think what it really boils down to is whether or not you like the waist level finder of the Rollei and whether or not you like the square format. If you prefer the prism finder of the Pentax then this is the better choice because the Rollei with the prism makes a even heavier and larger

Re: Books/Sites on 67II

2004-08-29 Thread Pat White
To see examples of pictures shot with the P67, check out magazines like American Photo. This month's issue has a picture of Janet Jackson (one of the 4 covers, the one where she's reclining on a white sofa, it's also inside the magazine) shot with a 67. The camera is very popular with fashion

Re: Seen on dpreview

2004-08-29 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
Joseph Tainter quoted someone else: I was sitting up about 2a.m. watching TV and an interesting commercial came on. There are 4 major camera companies, it starts out. Canon, Olympus, Fuji, and Pentax, it continues, Only one is the official camera of the internet, Pentax. Well, I thought

Re: Seen on dpreview

2004-08-29 Thread Caveman
I'd give that title to Kodak for their docking cameras. They make uploading your pics oh so easy. What entity could grant such a status on behalf of the Internet?

Re: Polarizer

2004-08-29 Thread Peter Lacus
Shel, As for POL filters, I like the Multi-Coated B+W filters best Hoya multi coated would be an acceptable second choice. is something wrong with genuine Pentax polarizers? Peter

Re: Seen on dpreview

2004-08-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
What entity could grant such a status on behalf of the Internet? Who cares? It's smart advertising. They're apparently getting away with it. The networks haven't refused the ads, nor has the fcc made them pull it. People who want point and shoot digitals so they can send images to their

Re: Huge price differences for photo equipment (Was polarizer before)

2004-08-29 Thread graywolf
The standard snapshot N size print for many decades was 3-1/2x4-1/2 inchs printed on 3-1/2 inch rolls. Then when 35mm became the standard (late 60's early 70's?) they increased that to 3-1/2x5 to match the 35mm negative. Then the new minilabs started using 6 rolls and offering 4x6. Now that has

Re: Seen on dpreview

2004-08-29 Thread graywolf
No it was first come first served. For once Pentax had a promotional idea before the other companies did. I think it was the first promotional idea they ever had. BTW, since it is offical now you can get kicked off the internet for posting photos taken with any other brand camera. Us PDML'ers

RE Books/Sites on 67II

2004-08-29 Thread Pat Curran
Hi William, You wrote: Problem with that is the web destroys any quality difference between formats. I tried doing a comparison one day between 6x7 and 35mm, and the results on the web just didn't do justice to the huge difference in quality. OK, I accept the extra quality will

Re: Books/Sites on 67II

2004-08-29 Thread Pat Curran
Pix Wrote: At one time, I was determined to jump into this system, then I picked one up! :) Along the way, I picked up some links on the 67, some of which cover the 67II: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax67ii.shtml http://medfmt.8k.com/mf/pentax67.html Thank you Pix

Re: Prodigal returns

2004-08-29 Thread mike wilson
Malcolm Smith wrote: Well, obviously my concern is for the camera equipment in such conditions (ahem, cough splutter). My eldest son was invited on a school camping trip last term; when I asked him if he wanted to go, he gave me a look of horror normally reserved for the prospect of going shopping

Re: Prodigal returns

2004-08-29 Thread Caveman
ROFLMAO ! Nicely put ;-) In my life I met only one woman that was fun to go shopping with. Malcolm Smith wrote: he gave me a look of horror normally reserved for the prospect of going shopping with my wife for clothes

Re: Prodigal returns

2004-08-29 Thread Keith Whaley
mike wilson wrote: Malcolm Smith wrote: Well, obviously my concern is for the camera equipment in such conditions (ahem, cough splutter). My eldest son was invited on a school camping trip last term; when I asked him if he wanted to go, he gave me a look of horror normally reserved for the

Re: K15/3.5 final samples

2004-08-29 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004, Alan Chan wrote: for this super wide? And I think I have had enough tests... Yes, but are you happy? You have paid a bit of money, and the point is to be happy. Kostas

Re: Polarizer

2004-08-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I've never been able to find them, so I've stuck with B+W. Can't comment on something I've not used. Does Pentax even make a pol filter? Shel [Original Message] From: Peter Lacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] is something wrong with genuine Pentax polarizers?

Re: Seen on dpreview

2004-08-29 Thread Peter J. Alling
They are the Official Camera of the Internet because they trade marked that phrase. Joseph Tainter wrote: Pentax advertises -- at 2 AM. I don't know where this fellow is located. Joe -- I was sitting up about 2a.m. watching TV and an interesting commercial came on. There are 4 major

Re: Norwegian Impressions

2004-08-29 Thread Jostein
Hey, Boris! You certainly made good use of the view from the cottage...:-) Well done indeed! Jostein (just back from a week-end trip, to 500+ msg...) - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 10:10 PM

Re: 35 vs digi - Some points to ponder.

2004-08-29 Thread Jostein
Antonio wrote: JCO you seem to be obsessed with image quality, but I have yet to see a quality image from you. Why is that? Probably because you didn't bother to look in the first place. PUG is always a good place to start: http://pug.komkon.org/02mar/peir2.html

Ebay item 3835349708

2004-08-29 Thread Antonio
So what would you guys say this auction was actually for looking at the pictures and the description? A.

Re: Polarizer

2004-08-29 Thread Keith Whaley
In my 1976 Honeywell price list of lenses etc...I have several Pentax filters listed that were SMC. 52, 58 67mm. keith whaley Pat Curran wrote: John Francis wrote: Well, BH seem to think so - they list them as in stock. According to one reply to my original query, though, the Pentax filters

Re: Polarizer

2004-08-29 Thread Alan Chan
You can download the pdf brochure from Pentax japan web site and the only uncoated filter is polarizer. All other Pentax filters are SMC now. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan I used a genuine Pentax 52mm polorizer for the shot at: http://www.iol.ie/~pkcurran/TestScans/ScanTest.htm I have

Re: Polarizer

2004-08-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Pat Curran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Francis wrote: Well, BH seem to think so - they list them as in stock. According to one reply to my original query, though, the Pentax filters are uncoated. (Which seems odd, given that one strength of the Pentax lenses is the coating.) I used a

Re: LF Quality posted! , WAS: 35 vs digi - Some points to ponder.

2004-08-29 Thread John Francis
I know I just said it is impossible to display a LF image on a PC screen but here is a sample 4X5 negative reduced to 12 Mpixels and jpegged down to about 2.5 Mbytes. http://www.jcoconnell.com/temp/barge12mp.jpg Unfortunately it also shows one of the drawbacks of LF; there's a whole lot

Re: LF Quality posted! , WAS: 35 vs digi - Some points to ponder.

2004-08-29 Thread Caveman
Errr... it shows the drawbacks of scanning film instead of printing it using an enlarger. John Francis wrote: Unfortunately it also shows one of the drawbacks of LF; there's a whole lot more negative area to keep clean. Not only are there a lot of dust specks (particularly visible in the sky,

RE: Ebay item 3835349708

2004-08-29 Thread Mark Stringer
If I could decode it I still would not submit a bid. -Original Message- From: Antonio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 4:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ebay item 3835349708 So what would you guys say this auction was actually for looking at the pictures and

Re: Polarizer

2004-08-29 Thread John Francis
Mark Roberts said, in part: . . . but then I don't find polarizers very useful in situations where the sun's likely to reach the front element of the lens. Oddly enough that's when I expect to get the most benefit from one. I often photograph subjects with highly-polished curved and glossy

RE: Interesting 15mm 3.5 Takumar

2004-08-29 Thread Mark Stringer
The one at auction was an M42 with K mount adapter. -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 2:28 AM To: pentax list Subject: Interesting 15mm 3.5 Takumar I was watching this one and thought it would go for between 4 and 600 bucks. I didn't

Re: Seen on dpreview

2004-08-29 Thread Bob W
Hi, Who cares? It's smart advertising. They're apparently getting away with it. The networks haven't refused the ads, nor has the fcc made them pull it. People who want point and shoot digitals so they can send images to their friends will probably remember that Pentax is the official

Re: Polarizer

2004-08-29 Thread Bob W
Hi, Sunday, August 29, 2004, 9:57:07 PM, Alan wrote: I have been using a 67mm B+W CPL for years, but have found no optical difference from my HOYA CPL. So I just save the money to buy multicoated HOYA since. there are significant differences in the build quality, in my experience. For

Re: Interesting 15mm 3.5 Takumar

2004-08-29 Thread Peter J. Alling
I believe that Cotty's point was that the Takumar was the same as the early K mount with the Aspheric element. Mark Stringer wrote: The one at auction was an M42 with K mount adapter. -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 2:28 AM To:

Re: Prodigal returns

2004-08-29 Thread John Forbes
It's usually referred to simply as the '87 hurricane. It did so much damage that it even put the BBC off the air. John On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:51:08 -0400, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was in London during a hurricane that hit with considerable force. The weather bureau failed to

Re: Polarizer

2004-08-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunday, August 29, 2004, 9:57:07 PM, Alan wrote: I have been using a 67mm B+W CPL for years, but have found no optical difference from my HOYA CPL. So I just save the money to buy multicoated HOYA since. there are significant differences in the build quality,

Re: Polarizer

2004-08-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
At the time I was buying filters, I had to get the Pentax filters from Canada. Couldn't find 'em at BH, or anywhere else for that matter. Nice to know they're now available here. It's only the pol filters that are uncoated. Shel From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, BH seem to

Re: Seen on dpreview

2004-08-29 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
Bob W wrote: People who want point and shoot digitals so they can send images to their friends will probably remember that Pentax is the official camera of the internet. This seems to imply that people who use ps digitals are not smart enough to spot advertising bullshit. Sounds like

Re: Polarizer

2004-08-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I read that in a brochure from Schneider, the producer of B+W filters. Shel From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] I seem to recall reading somewhere that coating isn't much of an issue with polarizers, due to the nature of the way they work with regards to reflections.

Re: Seen on dpreview

2004-08-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Aug 29, 2004, at 6:52 PM, Bob W wrote: Hi, Who cares? It's smart advertising. They're apparently getting away with it. The networks haven't refused the ads, nor has the fcc made them pull it. People who want point and shoot digitals so they can send images to their friends will probably

Re: Seen on dpreview

2004-08-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Aug 29, 2004, at 7:29 PM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote: So they don't have to _believe_ Pentax has any official status -- they can even laugh at the idea like I do -- as long as there's that tickle of association in the far back of their brain when they see the name Pentax on a camera in a store.

optics question

2004-08-29 Thread edwin
OK, I did the obvious thing and put that 500/4.5 takumar on my M42-NikonF optical converter and mounted it on my D1H and went out shooting youth football. I have a few observations, and a question. 1) Sharpness is really quite good, even at the edges. Within my limited experience with both

Digicam user interfaces

2004-08-29 Thread Caveman
A must see: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikoncp5200/page3.asp No, I was not suggesting to laugh about the Party mode, actually I think that's one of the frequent uses of the minicams and it's nice to see a straight unambigous dedicated camera mode for it. What shocked me was this: Pressing

Re: Anybody still using an external (analog) lightmeter

2004-08-29 Thread John Coyle
I'm a little late on this one, Markus. I use a Gossen Lunasix 3 with my Rolleicord and for critical occasions when I have tricky lighting situations - not digital! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: Anybody still using an external (analog) lightmeter

2004-08-29 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 Aug 2004 at 9:02, Bruce Dayton wrote: Me too. I really like the meter. Mostly use it for studio flash work, but some ambient readings outdoors, too. - Best regards, Bruce Friday, August 27, 2004, 6:35:54 AM, you wrote: DM I was about to say yes until I paid attention to the

Re: Polarizer

2004-08-29 Thread Alan Chan
The depends on which model you mean. The traditional HOYA filters have a piece of metal wire to hold the glass in place. I have never had any problem with this design, and much preferred it because they are thinner. Some of the multicoated CPLs have retaining ring which is the same as

RE: LF Quality posted! , WAS: 35 vs digi - Some points to ponder.

2004-08-29 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I can touch it up easily if I want to in photoshop, you cant make a lower resolution shot higher in photoshop though, big difference. If I want to print I have no problem at all making up to 11x17 prints with NO visible dust! Actually dust is something you have to deal with on all film formats

need screwmount info

2004-08-29 Thread Amita Guha
Isn't there a website with a lot of good info on Pentax screwmount lenses? I checked Boz's page and it looked like it was all K-mount stuff. I was eating lunch in Manhattan today and I saw a guy with an old camera; just from looking at the focusing ring from the side I correctly guessed that it

Best lens for my new ES II?

2004-08-29 Thread Steve Pearson
Hi everyone, I have a few questions for all of you screw mount experts. I have always had K mount, and know very little about the screw mount bodies. I have an ES II on it's way. My questions for you are: If you could pick the best quality standard lens for this, would it be the 50mm 1.4, or a

Re: More 35mm vs digital (price, upgradability...)

2004-08-29 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: almost half the population of the planet is either Indian or Chinese. I don't know about China, but I do know that there are a lot of film cameras (admittedly rather crappy ones) in India, and a lot of film being used there. I think it's going to take an awful lot to get

Re: 35 vs digi - Some points to ponder.

2004-08-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Don Sanderson Subject: RE: 35 vs digi - Some points to ponder. Really, has anyone ever seen an AA pic? If you mean Ansel Adams, the yes, I have seen an original, sogned by the muse himself print of Moonrise over Hernandez. Nice picture. William Robb

Re: More 35mm vs digital (price, upgradability...)

2004-08-29 Thread John Coyle
Bob, after a recent visit to China (and Hong Kong) my impression is that digital is definitely flavour of the month. Almost everyone I saw was using PS style digitals: in our tour group, there were only two film cameras at all - the other 11 were digital. The Chinese themselves in both countries

RE: Anybody still using an external (analog) lightmeter

2004-08-29 Thread Simon King
Hi Markus Another late one here, but I still use the Minolta Flashmeter IV I bought a few months ago. It's indispensable with strobes and my new (1962) 6x6 TLR, and wonderful at quickly determining flash/ambient readings for both 35mm MF outside. Cheers, Simon -Original Message-

Re: need screwmount info

2004-08-29 Thread Peter J. Alling
http://www.aohc.it/indexe.htm You can find some info here. Amita Guha wrote: Isn't there a website with a lot of good info on Pentax screwmount lenses? I checked Boz's page and it looked like it was all K-mount stuff. I was eating lunch in Manhattan today and I saw a guy with an old camera; just

Re: Best lens for my new ES II?

2004-08-29 Thread Peter J. Alling
http://www.aohc.it/indexe.htm Steve Pearson wrote: Hi everyone, I have a few questions for all of you screw mount experts. I have always had K mount, and know very little about the screw mount bodies. I have an ES II on it's way. My questions for you are: If you could pick the best quality