Re: OT Flooded with 50mm macros?

2004-09-24 Thread Chris Brogden
I was frustrated with the lack of a ~50mm f2.8 1:1 MF macro lens in K-mount from Pentax until a found a Vivitar that did the trick. It's a 55mm f2.8 MF macro that does 1:1 without an adapter. I never could get used to AF macros, and I didn't want to go to the original Takumar macro (the only Pent

Re: A random snapshot

2004-09-24 Thread Chris Brogden
Dang. And here I was hoping for at least one good argument on missile defence. Ah well... Oh, I've got a few gmail invites to give away, so if anyone's interested, write me off-list. You get 1GB of storage, the ability to send 10MB attachments, and a cool interface that groups threads as a seri

Re: OT Flooded with 50mm macros?

2004-09-24 Thread David Nelson
Come on Rob, you've got to get it so I can have a go (-: Seriously, doesn't 1:1 and QSF appeal to you? (Unseriously -) The lure of something new and shiny? (-: The other glut I've noticed on eBay is the 40mm M pancakes. Odd. You wonder if people actually invest in lenses - and when they think tha

Re: The Robb-Cakalic Expedition Book 1

2004-09-24 Thread Caveman
Err... forgot to show you cave wheels: http://www.webaperture.com/gallery/x/47859

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-24 Thread Peter J. Alling
Herb, they had to set up the tooling for the mount they are using now, it would have cost no more to set up tooling for a mount with full compatibility, your argument holds no water, it is pure sophistry. Herb Chong wrote: on a different assembly line from one that had the tooling already in pla

Re: The Robb-Cakalic Expedition Book 1

2004-09-24 Thread Caveman
Also known as a bitch-wagon. Wonder how a real man like Bill could have such poor taste when it comes to buying his truck. Daniel Matyola wrote: Looks like a real Gas Guzzler. -- Original Message -- From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: National symbols

2004-09-24 Thread Daniel Matyola
it starts with laughing. -- Original Message -- From: Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 09:31:14 -0400 >That's OK, they are laughing at you because your tastes and behavior are >a bit different than theirs. >

Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera

2004-09-24 Thread Chris Brogden
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:12:40 -0400, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same here. I've found that showing some photos taken with the Optio S or > Optio MX and printed on the Frontier 375 show the average consumer they > NORMALLY don't need more than 3 megapixels for the usual 4x6 snapshot. >

Re: For KEITH WHALEY (Re: Friday: Donations Needed)

2004-09-24 Thread Keith Whaley
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Keith My email to you keeps bouncing. Seems I, or my ISP, are on your blocked list. So, here's my response to your public and private email. Something wrong with my ISP, it seems. You aren't alone in being bounced... All in the last couple of days. =

Re: '05 PUG themes

2004-09-24 Thread CRB
I was hoping for a year of "homework". Gives people a chance to pick up a book & learn a technique. 1. Single-light portrait or still life. 2. 1-second exposure 3. 1/1000-second exposure Think outside the mirror box. Sincerely, C.Brendemuehl "Politics is sup

Re: The Robb-Cakalic Expedition Book 1

2004-09-24 Thread Daniel Matyola
Looks like a real Gas Guzzler. -- Original Message -- From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:09:05 +0100 >Excellent taste in transport! Sent v

Re: A random snapshot

2004-09-24 Thread Caveman
Chris Brogden wrote: Whatever happened to politics, Mafud, and C/N bashing? Bush will win anyway, Mafud is gone and we all switched either to C or N. So we just post some pics from time to time and debate metering. Sorry, Chris

Re: National symbols

2004-09-24 Thread Daniel Matyola
For "the more moronic ones"? Nice. I was tying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you are making it hard. -- Original Message -- From: Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:28:59 +0200 >And Daniel, I

Re: A random snapshot

2004-09-24 Thread Chris Brogden
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 14:57:35 -0400, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can shoot totally manual too, even without a light > meter. What does that prove with regards to the subject? > Nothing. I was arguing open aperture TTL metering > is better than stop down TTL metering, not whether I

RE: Long, Fast Glass-Where to Buy?

2004-09-24 Thread Robert Dierschke
I am currently selling all my Pentax gear. I have been hanging on to my Tonkina AT-X 300 2.8 just in case I decided to get an IST-D, but I have gone the Nikon route If you are interested drop me an E-mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and I can give you any details. If not it will be on E-bay som

Re: Fine Art Paper Recommendations

2004-09-24 Thread Herb Chong
whatever you do, note that usually archival life goes way down on a lot of papers. you may find that the Epson inks on Epson papers last the longest. did you receive your 4000 yet? Herb... - Original Message - From: "Larry Hodgson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday,

Re: OT Flooded with 50mm macros?

2004-09-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 Sep 2004 at 11:12, David Nelson wrote: > You're still planning to get the D-FA right? Not sure, not all that impressed with Pentax at the moment and my current kit is doing all I expect it to do. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: *ist D's relative file size capability

2004-09-24 Thread Jack Davis
Rob, Thanks! Very helpful. I'm assigning your response to a folder for future reference. Considerate of you to take the time. Jack --- Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 24 Sep 2004 at 14:33, Jack Davis wrote: > > > I'm curious about all things photographic > including > > digital. Si

Re: Fine Art Paper Recommendations

2004-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hahnemuhle Fine Art is perhaps a slightly nicer texture than Epson's, but the ink chips off much easier. It's a great paper, but the finished prints are very fragile. Paul On Sep 24, 2004, at 9:12 PM, Larry Hodgson wrote: I would like some recommendations from users who have personally used fin

Re: '05 PUG themes

2004-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Bingo! I'd say that's a wrap. Good thinking from both you and Frank. Paul On Sep 24, 2004, at 7:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Steady" responded to knarf's post thus: Some good ideas here. I especially like the food gallery and the anachronisms. I'm not much of a food photographer, but I'm very f

Re: PAW: Young Commies in Love

2004-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Great shot. He's lucky that she loves him for his politics :-) Paul On Sep 24, 2004, at 7:36 PM, frank theriault wrote: Even in the midst of mass protest, the call for popular revolt and the demand for the overthrow of our government, love will find a way : http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_

Fine Art Paper Recommendations

2004-09-24 Thread Larry Hodgson
I would like some recommendations from users who have personally used fine art papers for printing. What papers have you used and liked or disliked? I have some 13x19 Velvet Fine Art from Epson, so I know about it. Hahnemuhle has a large number of papers but I know nothing about how they perform. A

Re: OT Flooded with 50mm macros?

2004-09-24 Thread David Nelson
Yeah, I've noticed... mostly posting to the US only otherwise I'd be sorely tempted. But of course, we all want the D-FA don't we (-: I can imagine all those poor people selling their 50 macros being rather upset about not having one for ages until the D-FAs turn up in the shops (-: Actually, the

Re: PESO: Annother panorama

2004-09-24 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
Click on the "Full Size" button at the bottom-right of the screen (not on "Previous" or "Next") and you'll see the full monti! Maris frank theriault wrote: > On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 23:08:50 +0200, Jens Bladt > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Here's a photograph I took this morning, right after sunrise

Re: A random snapshot

2004-09-24 Thread Ann Sanfedele
William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Ann Sanfedele" > Subject: Re: A random snapshot > > >(snip) > > ann said > > Your hands are a lot steady than mine - :) > > Bruce Rubenstein said the same thing. > LOL! > Thanks for looking > b thanks for shotting something wo

Re: *ist D's relative file size capability

2004-09-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 Sep 2004 at 1:34, John Forbes wrote: > Rob, > > Any chance you could post samples of similar images recorded initially as JPG > and RAW? Or at least point to a URL? I have resisted buying PS CS (have > Elements) so far, and want to try and evaluate how big the difference is, and > whethe

Re: Annother panorama

2004-09-24 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
And another fantastic photo! Thank you once again. Maris Jens Bladt wrote: > Here's a photograph I took this morning, right after sunrise (7:30 > AM). > I enjoy making panoramas for my employer/work. I shot these (25 > shots) in RAW format with the *ist D and my SMC M*4/300mm. Then > converted

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-24 Thread Herb Chong
on a different assembly line from one that had the tooling already in place for about 10 years, it costs a lot. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 8:45 PM Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camer

Re: PESO: John Coyle

2004-09-24 Thread Peter J. Alling
You weren't? William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: PESO: John Coyle A very nice portrait, Ryan. You've made a pdml member look kind, caring and gentle. The things one can to with a dslr! Oh right, and next you are going to say that I lo

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-24 Thread Peter J. Alling
Think about it, the tooling would have cost the same either way. It's not exactly like a new design was necessary. Re-tooling would add to the project cost, if it were done now. I'm not even sure that re-tooling would be necessary, I haven't taken a *ist-d apart, anyone been that brave yet? Her

Re: *ist D's relative file size capability

2004-09-24 Thread John Forbes
Rob, Any chance you could post samples of similar images recorded initially as JPG and RAW? Or at least point to a URL? I have resisted buying PS CS (have Elements) so far, and want to try and evaluate how big the difference is, and whether, for my less critical eye, it is worth paying for C

Re: Z-1p with multicoated eyepiece at last...

2004-09-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 Sep 2004 at 17:21, John Bailey wrote: > What was wrong with it? It was a lovely high quality piece of plastic that scratches very easily and needs to be cleaned often. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.a

OT Flooded with 50mm macros?

2004-09-24 Thread Rob Studdert
Had anyone seen how many A50/2.8 macros have been flooding though eBay of late? I wonder why they have all come out of hiding of late? The imminent introduction of the FAD50 macro perhaps? In any case they seem to be going for a song, so if anyone wants a pointer to a serious lens that works r

Re: PAW: Young Commies in Love

2004-09-24 Thread Joseph Tainter
Nice, Frank. Joe

Re: Z-1p with multicoated eyepiece at last...

2004-09-24 Thread John Bailey
Alan, So you actually got a Hoya SHMC uv filter and "modified" it to fit? JB --- Alan Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do wear glasses. The new glass eyepiece was > made from the HOYA HMC SUPER > UV filter. > > Alan Chan > http://www.pbase.com/wlachan > > >Do you wear glasses? What exact

Re: *ist D's relative file size capability

2004-09-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 Sep 2004 at 14:33, Jack Davis wrote: > I'm curious about all things photographic including > digital. Since I own nine 35mm Pentax lenses, seems > logical to check out the *ist D. While several have > been playing with the phrase; "*ist D..what a > wonderful camera", I've also noted the many

Re: Z-1p with multicoated eyepiece at last...

2004-09-24 Thread John Bailey
What was wrong with it? JB --- Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are crazy, Alan. But that doesn't mean you > are not smart. You have > been complaining about that eyepiece for as > long as I remember, now you > have fixed it. Way to go. > > -- > > Alan Chan wrote: > > Am I crazy or n

Re: First K mount non Pentax DSLR?

2004-09-24 Thread Peter J. Alling
That's what I thought when I first saw it, apparently Zenit copied the Pentax 110 look for a "modern" 35mm model. Graywolf wrote: It is a fake article. That is a Pentax 110 SLR in the photo. -- Daniel J. Matyola wrote: That's certainly a nice price, even if it's not a great dslr. Andreas Wirtz wr

Re: PESO: John Coyle

2004-09-24 Thread John Coyle
Frank, you don't know how hard Ryan had to work to get that impression! It was near midnight and I was definitely feeling like a GOM (grumpy old man, for those who didn't work it out). Tanja was sorely missed, but we'll be able to get together again next month, she tells me - and at least she h

Re: First K mount non Pentax DSLR?

2004-09-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 Sep 2004 at 19:51, Caveman wrote: > 3 fps wouldn't be that bad, you go move a light then come back at the > camera and take a look etc question is can you do that without pressing > the shutter release and actually writing and filling up the memory card > ? That's 3fps without demosaicin

Re: PESO: Santa's helpers

2004-09-24 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:56:37 -0400, Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's them Bell Sympatico acting again, their web hosting servers are > working with interruptions. I also get low transfer speed and extremely > poor name server services (I have to try 3-4 times until a name resolves). > Can

Re: PAW: Young Commies in Love

2004-09-24 Thread John Forbes
Nice pic. Others (!) might have cropped it, but in fact the two faces either side frame it well and reinforce the feeling of being in a crowd. And I hate to use the F word, so I won't. There's no need. Can't argue with his taste either! John On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:36:24 -0400, frank theria

Re: PAW: Young Commies in Love

2004-09-24 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 16:54:04 -0700, Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They sure need a shampoo! > Apparently, hygene is a bourgeois concept, as well as sharpness. -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

For KEITH WHALEY (Re: Friday: Donations Needed)

2004-09-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Keith My email to you keeps bouncing. Seems I, or my ISP, are on your blocked list. So, here's my response to your public and private email. = Hi Keith ... What details do you need? What must I do to persuade you to part with a camera or two?

Re: PESO: Santa's helpers

2004-09-24 Thread Caveman
It's them Bell Sympatico acting again, their web hosting servers are working with interruptions. I also get low transfer speed and extremely poor name server services (I have to try 3-4 times until a name resolves). Can anyone recommend me some reliable DSL service provider in Montreal area ? I

Re: PAW: Young Commies in Love

2004-09-24 Thread Keith Whaley
frank theriault wrote: Even in the midst of mass protest, the call for popular revolt and the demand for the overthrow of our government, love will find a way : They sure need a shampoo! I remember a long time ago, when a drinkin' buddy and I used to visit a couple of local pubs after work, and s

Re: First K mount non Pentax DSLR?

2004-09-24 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is a fake article. That is a Pentax 110 SLR in the photo. > > -- Hi Tom, The article is probably fake, but the camera is a Zenit KM, or at least almost identical to that. See: http://www.rugift.com/photocameras/zenit_cameras.htm and http://www.rugift.com/

Re: '05 PUG themes

2004-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Some good ideas here. I especially like the food gallery and the anachronisms. I'm not much of a food photographer, but I'm very fond of food :-). Paul On Sep 24, 2004, at 6:41 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:54:17 -0400 (EDT), CRB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Have the themes fo

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-24 Thread Herb Chong
the cost of the part would have been minimal, but the assembly line tooling wouldn't have been. for a camera that has to cost Pentax at most $500 to make, and probably under $400, a production run of well under 100K, on a brand new line, when the company had lost money for 3 years in a row before,

Re: Another vacation picture

2004-09-24 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:26:22 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He's on leave. > WW > After the harrowing journey back from Afghanistan on one of our leaky, rat-infested troop carriers, he deserves a vacation... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri C

Re: Kelowna, British Columbia

2004-09-24 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 02:04:12 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, If anyone on the list is living in, or near, Kelowna, BC, Canada, > could you please contact me offlist at: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Thanks > > William Robb Left something behind at a bar? -frank -- "Sharpness is

Re: PESO: John Coyle

2004-09-24 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 02:39:47 +1000, Ryan Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Earlier this evening we had a super mini- BrisbanePDML, aka the Tanless > Evening (Tanya didn't show up because.. well, Tanya you > explain..).Nevertheless, more scrumptious (courtesy Jan Coyle, ta!) food for > the 3 of us (T

Re: PESO: Annother panorama

2004-09-24 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:31:21 -0400, Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Click on the "previous" button and you'll get to the really good stuff > ;-) ;-) ;-) Hey, now ~that's~ a great shot!! Such vivid colours, great composition/framing, beautiful lady. What's not to like? cheers, frank --

Re: '05 PUG themes

2004-09-24 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:54:17 -0400 (EDT), CRB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Have the themes for '05 been set yet? Not that I've seen or heard. HEY, LET'S PLAY A GAME!!! I think that we should get going with some suggestions. That way Adelheid will have something to work with (she'll only ha

Re: PESO: Annother panorama

2004-09-24 Thread Caveman
Click on the "previous" button and you'll get to the really good stuff ;-) ;-) ;-) frank theriault wrote: http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p7816978.html Sadly, the pano is so small on my screen, I can't really get an proper idea of how it looks.

Re: A random snapshot

2004-09-24 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:45:52 +0100, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is that the five minute relief, or the full half hour? I paid for five minutes, but it didn't take nearly that long. -knarf -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: how does image stabilisation work?

2004-09-24 Thread Nick Clark
I would have thought that a maximum sensor shift of 1-2mm would be sensible to give 1-2 stops improvement. It's about 10% of the linear image dimension. Anything more than this wouldn't be compensating for camera shake, it would be used for earthquake stabilisation. Nick -Original Message-

Re: PESO: Annother panorama

2004-09-24 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 23:08:50 +0200, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a photograph I took this morning, right after sunrise (7:30 AM). > I enjoy making panoramas for my employer/work. I shot these (25 shots) in > RAW format with the *ist D and my SMC M*4/300mm. Then converted them to >

Re: PAW: Out to Pasture

2004-09-24 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:05:58 -0400, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To impress the chicks, man! > Well, it hasn't worked so far... -theriault -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

RE: Lens Value

2004-09-24 Thread Jim Colwell
I've seen two SMCP-A* ED Macro 200/4 sell on eBay, and have not yet seen a listing for one at any of the online stores I watch, including B&H, KEH, Adorama and many others. One of them sold on eBay in March 2003 and the other in June 2004. Their sale prices are recorded on page 6 of the June upda

Re: lens value A*200/4 Macro

2004-09-24 Thread Rfsindg
Don, I happily paid a list member $750 for one several years ago. This is a really rare lens. I've seen it go for over $1,000 (US) on ebay in recent months. I shot next month's (Oct'05) PUG contribution with it. Regards, Bob S. >>From: Don Herring Subject: Lens Value Greetings, I'm comi

*ist D's relative file size capability

2004-09-24 Thread Jack Davis
I'm curious about all things photographic including digital. Since I own nine 35mm Pentax lenses, seems logical to check out the *ist D. While several have been playing with the phrase; "*ist D..what a wonderful camera", I've also noted the many serious praises. Please help me understand what I rea

Re: The root of all evil...

2004-09-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Working in the advertising biz, I've spent hundreds of hours searching Getty. Good stuff. it's the number one rip-off source for art director comps. Of course Getty knows that and they even help enable the ADs with relatively high res samples. But Getty is also the number one selling stock hous

RE: Lens Value

2004-09-24 Thread Alan Chan
I don't remember the exactly value, but if the body looks clean, it should go for at least USD800+. I have a new tripod adaptor for this lens btw, anyone wants it? Make me an offer. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan I'm coming out of lurk mode to inquire about a site or book where I could

PESO: Annother panorama

2004-09-24 Thread Jens Bladt
Here's a photograph I took this morning, right after sunrise (7:30 AM). I enjoy making panoramas for my employer/work. I shot these (25 shots) in RAW format with the *ist D and my SMC M*4/300mm. Then converted them to JPEG's in Phase One SE (trial version) and stitched them together in Foto Vista 3

Re: Z-1p with multicoated eyepiece at last...

2004-09-24 Thread Alan Chan
I do wear glasses. The new glass eyepiece was made from the HOYA HMC SUPER UV filter. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Do you wear glasses? What exactly is this mc eyepiece. I couldn't tell from your gallery shots. John B _ P

The root of all evil...

2004-09-24 Thread Bob W
...and how to get some: http://www.gettyartists.com/article.asp?article_id=720 Their main website is worth browsing: http://www.gettyimages.com They also have a Central London gallery which I saw last week for the first time. Some very interesting photos there - worth half a hour of anybody's ti

Re: 4x5 experience - not Pentax WAS: Even more compatibility issues

2004-09-24 Thread ernreed2
Graywolf said: > With this post I realized I should have been taking notes from this > thread. You could always do that from the archives -- a rainy day project, perhaps? > What a great bunch of ideas for photos for my press camera > website. Photos that would show both sides of this argument

Re: 4x5 experience - not Pentax WAS: Even more compatibility issues again!

2004-09-24 Thread Graywolf
With this post I realized I should have been taking notes from this thread. What a great bunch of ideas for photos for my press camera website. Photos that would show both sides of this argument are nonsensical. I think that no one is thinking here. It has just gotten to the point of "I'm right

Re: First K mount non Pentax DSLR?

2004-09-24 Thread Graywolf
It is a fake article. That is a Pentax 110 SLR in the photo. -- Daniel J. Matyola wrote: That's certainly a nice price, even if it's not a great dslr. Andreas Wirtz wrote: look at: http://new.dpnow.com/691a.html Andreas -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html

Re: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-24 Thread Graywolf
No, in theory bumblebees can fly fine. The engineers just did not understand some things that bumblebees did 50 years ago. Like the fuzziness broke up the laminar airflow and reduced drag exponentially. You ought to check out those hoary old cliches before using them, we actually know a bit mor

Re: First K mount non Pentax DSLR?

2004-09-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Yes, yes you can. Keith Whaley wrote: You can put any price you want on an item that is an April Fool's joke... keith Daniel J. Matyola wrote: That's certainly a nice price, even if it's not a great dslr.

Re: Pentax £100,000 giveaway. Not SPAM....

2004-09-24 Thread Graywolf
Ah, that looks like one of those questionnaires that provide them with a valuable, sellable, mailing list. I would not give my bank some of that information. -- mike.wilson wrote: Hi, Pentax appears to be collecting data on purchasers with a hook of entering you for the cash prize draw. Can an

Re: Z-1p with multicoated eyepiece at last...

2004-09-24 Thread Graywolf
You are crazy, Alan. But that doesn't mean you are not smart. You have been complaining about that eyepiece for as long as I remember, now you have fixed it. Way to go. -- Alan Chan wrote: Am I crazy or not? http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/pentax_z1p_custom_eyepiece Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/

Re: Lens Value

2004-09-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Don Herring" Subject: Lens Value > Greetings, > > I'm coming out of lurk mode to inquire about a site or book where I could > get an estimate on the current value of a lens? Specifically a SMC A* > 200/F4 Macro ED (if anyone knows off the top of their head).

Re: Friday: Donations Needed

2004-09-24 Thread Keith Whaley
Added P.S. -- I have some 35mm film (36 exposure, Supra 400 Pro color neg.) that is slightly out of date, but good stuff. Has always been refrigerated. I'd be happy to send 6 or 8 rolls of that along too. Lemme know. keith Shel Belinkoff wrote: This is my third week teaching at the Sixth Street P

Re[2]: Minor Publication News

2004-09-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! ft> When you're dull and boring like me, you try to make yourself seem ft> more interesting by hanging around interesting people. Frank, it is not your choice to decide whether above is correct. You might want to consult your lawyer friend for proper explanation ... Excellent site and pict

Lens Value

2004-09-24 Thread Don Herring
Greetings, I'm coming out of lurk mode to inquire about a site or book where I could get an estimate on the current value of a lens? Specifically a SMC A* 200/F4 Macro ED (if anyone knows off the top of their head). Any assistance would be appreciated. Don

RE: A random snapshot

2004-09-24 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I can shoot totally manual too, even without a light meter. What does that prove with regards to the subject? Nothing. I was arguing open aperture TTL metering is better than stop down TTL metering, not whether I absolutely depended on either...Its an OPTIONAL feature, an inferior OPTIONAL feature

Friday: Donations Needed

2004-09-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
This is my third week teaching at the Sixth Street Photography Workshop (http://www.sixthstreetphoto.org) in San Francisco. It's a volunteer position. I'm teaching a few basic photography classes and doing some darkroom work for them, printing for an upcoming exhibition. As with many non-profit g

Re: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-24 Thread Peter J. Alling
Based on 19th century Victorian physics a honey bee cannot fly, it does anyway so the theory had to be re-evaluated. We now build flying robots based on the new theory. Wheatfield is just a bit behind. Caveman wrote: Which theory is that, Wheatfield ? William Robb wrote: In theory, bumblebees

RE: A random snapshot

2004-09-24 Thread Jens Bladt
Very nice shot. In some cities, lik Amsterdam, the windows in the red light district look like this. Except it would be real women displayed: http://www.fotokritik.dk/visstort.html?pic=65027 All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse--

Re: First K mount non Pentax DSLR?

2004-09-24 Thread Keith Whaley
You can put any price you want on an item that is an April Fool's joke... keith Daniel J. Matyola wrote: That's certainly a nice price, even if it's not a great dslr. Andreas Wirtz wrote: look at: http://new.dpnow.com/691a.html Andreas

Re: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-24 Thread Peter J. Alling
mike wilson wrote: Hi, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I don't see it as unfair at all. See my most recent post. I think JCO is arguing on one level, others on a different level. Theory may be fine, but practical experience is paramount. The nub of the matter, indeed. But to me it went like this: Larr

Re: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-24 Thread Caveman
Which theory is that, Wheatfield ? William Robb wrote: In theory, bumblebees cannot fly.

Re: First K mount non Pentax DSLR?

2004-09-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That's certainly a nice price, even if it's not a great dslr. Andreas Wirtz wrote: look at: http://new.dpnow.com/691a.html Andreas

Re: A random snapshot

2004-09-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Hear, hear! Shel Belinkoff wrote: Bill, why do you waste your time with JCO on this issue. The friggin thread's been going on for a week or so, nothing's going to get thru to JCO. He's busy talking theoretical hyperbole, you, Paul, and others are talking about what's practical, realistic, and wha

Re: OT - An interesting fake?

2004-09-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Caveman" Subject: Re: OT - An interesting fake? > > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > Theory may be fine, but > > practical experience is paramount. > > Cut the crap, Shel. This sounds sooo Rubensteinian. Theory comes from > practice too. In theory, bumblebees c

Re: Z-1p with multicoated eyepiece at last...

2004-09-24 Thread Caveman
Seems like a good moment to repost the Cottycam photo: http://www.pbase.com/ccanuck/image/33130041 Cotty wrote: Hey Fred. Just converted a K15mm 3.5 to EOS mount. Details soon ;-)

Re: A random snapshot

2004-09-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
[sigh] J. C. O'Connell wrote: You still havent got it yet. Let me explain for the 4th time.

Re: First K mount non Pentax DSLR?

2004-09-24 Thread Peter J. Alling
It's been noticed before.. Andreas Wirtz wrote: look at: http://new.dpnow.com/691a.html Andreas ___ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a

Re: A random snapshot

2004-09-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: A random snapshot > You still havent got it yet. Let me explain > for the 4th time. > No John, I get it, you don't understand that for something that is only going to affect my life once a decade, I am not going to pay much heed

Re: 4x5 experience - not Pentax WAS: Even more compatibility issues again!

2004-09-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: 4x5 experience - not Pentax WAS: Even more compatibility issues again! > Try one in daylight. It is very possible > to get much faster shutter speeds than > you are suggesting. Guess you missed my post stating the > fact that pre

SV: PESO: Aerial photograph

2004-09-24 Thread Jens Bladt
Thanks Paul and Maris. Luckily, I am paid to do stuff like this, so I'm very happy, you think it's OK. It's a great pleasure for me to be able to do photgraphs and fly, at the same time. Both are among my favorite activities! Our cunsultants will blend the photgraph with a computer model (AutoCad)

Re: 4x5 experience - not Pentax WAS: Even more compatibility issues again!

2004-09-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Bailey" Subject: 4x5 experience - not Pentax WAS: Even more compatibility issues again! > JC, > > What direction is the sail boat moving? I tried > shooting a river boat on the Mississippi River > with my 4x5 several years ago and I believe it > was blu

Re: PESO: Aerial photograph

2004-09-24 Thread pnstenquist
Nice shot, Jens. Love that Velvia color. Paul > As some of you may remember I have promised to post a 6x6 photograph from my > helicopter in the beginning of this month. > This is the 6x6 phoptpgraph (here it's croped and compressed), which was > chosen to be used in the project for our 42 ha hab

Re: how does image stabilisation work?

2004-09-24 Thread Steve Desjardins
I read the article about the new Minolta in pop photo, but thinking back now I am confused by something. I don't have the magazine here to check, but I swear they said they put a 500 mirror lens on the camera and that the image stabilized through the viewfinder when they engaged IS. How could the

Re: how does image stabilisation work?

2004-09-24 Thread Gonz
They do that at the expense of image smear. That would not be good for stills. rg Graywolf wrote: Tell that to the video camera makers, they apparently don't know that. -- Gonz wrote: Do you mean electronically? That would not work. Image stabilization can only be done mechanically, either at

Re: A random snapshot

2004-09-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Subject: Re: A random snapshot > Mr. O"Connell: > > I could give more serious consideration to your point of view if you > could try to be a little less arrogant. Whee, I missed that one. For the record, my initial metering was done severa

Re: A random snapshot

2004-09-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Forbes" Subject: Re: A random snapshot > Talking about interesting juxtapositions, look at the shape of the parking > meter. I could have positioned that better. b...

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