Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/25/2005 5:45:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't recall taking a stance. I do recall mentioning that we should perhaps show some respect for cultural differences, in the context of defending a request for nudity warnings when appropriate. William

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Dave Kennedy wrote: > > I sometimes go thru > the PDML & PESOs while here at work, and they have very strict rules > about inappropriate use of tools. well, um, of course they would! annsan - hoping you see teh smiley i didnt type while ducking

Re: PESO Experimental Pano

2005-11-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Rob Studdert wrote: > > Enough talk, time for another Pano PESO, this one is a bit of an experiment > however. I hope I don't offend too many people but it's in Apple QTVR format > (MOV) so if you can't view these standalone or in an enabled Browser then you > might have to pass. Also it also cont

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Glen" Subject: Re: My first PESO Seems like we have to start pandering to the desires of those with phronemophobia, as well. ;) (That's not directed at you, William.) I should be relieved, but I am more surprised... William Robb

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread E.R.N. Reed
E.R.N. Reed wrote: William Robb wrote: Over here, we have this thing we call common sense. it is also what tells us we should warn a person before they click on a link whose content may be offensive to some. Warnings for ophiophobics are also *deeply* appreciated. :D oops -- oph

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Glen
At 10:48 PM 11/25/2005, E.R.N. Reed wrote: William Robb wrote: Over here, we have this thing we call common sense. it is also what tells us we should warn a person before they click on a link whose content may be offensive to some. Warnings for ophiophobics are also *deeply* apprecia

A note confirming my efforts to prop up Pentax Corp's bottom line

2005-11-25 Thread Sid Barras
Meaning: I just ordered my very first pentax Digital SLR; a DS 2; thought a long time about ordering the ist D, and also about waiting for the next model. But, the need for instant gratification overcame other logic. A gift from the war department for spending the last four years in classes

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread E.R.N. Reed
William Robb wrote: Over here, we have this thing we call common sense. it is also what tells us we should warn a person before they click on a link whose content may be offensive to some. Warnings for ophiophobics are also *deeply* appreciated. :D

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread P. J. Alling
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: My first PESO It's because we aren't dumb minions anymore. Smart minions? Nah, just dumb. William Robb Just so we've cleared that up... -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (s

Re: DA 12-24 on order

2005-11-25 Thread Gonz
Awesome Paul. I'm very happy with my purchase. Even though I could have saved $100, if I had waited. Of course I didnt know B&H was going to offer it for $799 vs $899 for everyone else. Its a great lens to use for interiors, it really covers alot of space. rg Paul Stenquist wrote: I've b

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: My first PESO I agree, but "soul stealing" isn't a zero-sum game, it's like an idea: If you have an idea and I have an idea and I give you mine and you give me yours, we *both* now have *two* ideas. When you take someone's pho

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Shell" Subject: Re: My first PESO I must have missed something. We did ratify a constitution a couple of decades ago. Isn't the official name of the country DumbMinion of Canada, eh? I believe we dropped the DumbMinion part about the ame t

Re: New Poll -- Favorite film (was -- Shoot now, focus later)

2005-11-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Tom Reese wrote: > > Scott Loveless asked: > > > We're past due for a new poll, aren't' we? So what's your favorite > > film, and why? Give us details, such as which films you use for what > > subjects. Or do you use certain films with certain lenses or cameras? > > Etc. > > I almost exclusi

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Bob Shell
Naw, I've never had enough slack. It's hard to find really good slack around here. Mostly we get the imported Taiwanese stuff. Bob On Nov 25, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Mat Maessen wrote: Do you still have enough slack? -Mat On 11/25/05, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good religion. Me, I

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 25, 2005, at 8:57 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: It's because we aren't dumb minions anymore. William Robb Smart minions? I must have missed something. Isn't the official name of the country DumbMinion of Canada, eh? Bob

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Mat Maessen
Do you still have enough slack? -Mat On 11/25/05, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good religion. Me, I've belonged to the Church of the Subgenius > since the 70s, when I realized that I was a true subgenius. I also > like it that their founder and chief icon is named Bob.

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Some cultures believe that photographing someone steals their soul. >I realized at some point that they are right, but continued to be a >photographer anyway. I agree, but "soul stealing" isn't a zero-sum game, it's like an idea: If you have an idea and

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread graywolf
Naw, its because you never do what you are told. What use is a slave that won't do what he is told? graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re:

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: My first PESO It's because we aren't dumb minions anymore. Smart minions? Nah, just dumb. William Robb

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread P. J. Alling
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: My first PESO Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine cl

Re: PESO: Inspired by Bob Shell

2005-11-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 25, 2005, at 8:31 PM, Glen wrote: I agree about the lack of detail in those areas. The problem is in the scan. It's just is a horrible scan. The sad part is, even though I have a much better scanner now, the original negative was damaged by mold/fungus/whatever. It would take me age

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Glen" Subject: Re: My first PESO Don't some cultures consider practically all imagery to be the work of the devil, as if all images were idolatry at some level? Didn't the Taliban take this stance at one point? There probably aren't a whole lot of the

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Ralf R. Radermacher" Subject: Re: My first PESO Let's face it, if we want to follow William Robb's advice, we'll have to close down this group. Pity, really. I don't recall taking a stance. I do recall mentioning that we should perhaps show some respe

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "DagT" Subject: Re: My first PESO As you point out, this is an international list. Perhaps if you are going to be on it, you should learn to repect the wishes of people who are living in cultures with different rules than your own. OK, but then I guess

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: My first PESO Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applie

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 25, 2005, at 7:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: I have no problems with biblical allusions (or illusions). I'm a Pastafarian: http://www.venganza.org/ ;-) Good religion. Me, I've belonged to the Church of the Subgenius since the 70s, when I realized that I was a true subgenius. I also

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 25, 2005, at 6:39 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: This seems appropriate here somehow... Dr. Laura Schlessinger is a radio personality who dispenses advice to people who call in to her radio show. Recently, she said that, as an observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an Wanna hear some

Re: New Poll -- Favorite film (was -- Shoot now, focus later)

2005-11-25 Thread Scott Loveless
So, Frank, how exactly do you load Roman Holiday into your Minolta.er, Leica? Smart ass. :) On 11/25/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/24/05, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Amen! > > > > > > > > We're past due for a new poll, aren't' we? So what's yo

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 25, 2005, at 6:19 PM, Glen wrote: Don't some cultures consider practically all imagery to be the work of the devil, as if all images were idolatry at some level? Didn't the Taliban take this stance at one point? Yep. The old "graven image" bit. Why so much Muslim art is abstract

Re: PESO: Inspired by Bob Shell

2005-11-25 Thread Glen
At 08:22 PM 11/25/2005, Bob Shell wrote: Two things bother me. I don't like that her hand and toes closest to the camera are burned out and lack detail. Also, compositionally, it needs more negative space on the left for balance. Other than that, I like the pose and idea. Hard to find models

Re: PESO: Inspired by Bob Shell

2005-11-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 25, 2005, at 6:05 PM, Glen wrote: I have to admit that the scan is a crappy scan. Some of the highlights are blown out, but I think the original color negative was well exposed. Trouble is, the original negative also has been damaged by fungus/mold/whatever. It would be a nightmare

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 25, 2005, at 5:40 PM, DagT wrote: It just means we need a few more acronyms for the Subject line ... like "NUDE:" or "UWHR:" or "ANKL:" or ... well, you get it. The problem is that you never know. How do I know if anybody is offended by this series? (Warning! Someone might) http:/

Re: PESO: Inspired by Bob Shell

2005-11-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 25, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Glen wrote: Since Bob Shell pointed out that a PESO didn't have to be taken with a Pentax camera, I would like to take this opportunity to post this image: http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/peso/Backbend.jpg For those sensitive to such things, there is nudit

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 25, 2005, at 5:30 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: It just means we need a few more acronyms for the Subject line ... like "NUDE:" or "UWHR:" or "ANKL:" or ... well, you get it. How about akt and nakt?? Bob

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 25, 2005, at 5:27 PM, DagT wrote: OK, but then I guess we should have a poll to get an overview over all rules present on this list, not only the US ones. Also you should not look at my pictures. I sometimes take pictures of children running around naked and I might forget to warn y

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 25, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: There is no censorship here. Nudity doesn't both me. Since, however, this is a broad-based list (no pun intended), with folks of all backgrounds, ages, and attitudes,what is wrong with having an informal agreement that photos withnudit

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 25, 2005, at 4:55 PM, DagT wrote: Well, this is also an international list, so if such things bother you then don´t look at PESO´s or PAW´s at work. Nudity isn´t very controversial around here, so I don´t like the US puritan rules being spread to the rest of us .-) You know the U

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 25, 2005, at 4:25 PM, Glen wrote: Bob, for what it's worth, I happen to like ALL the images you have shown in this thread. I think I have fewer preconceived notions about what the photos "should" look like than some other people do. I also don't try to pretend that I know what is ha

Re: PESO Experimental Pano

2005-11-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 Nov 2005 at 18:13, Glen wrote: > The only thing I wish I could change, would be to remove the vehicle from > the final image. I can think of two ways of doing this. One, involves > parking the vehicle miles from your camera and doing some hiking back to > the panorama location. :) Or I c

Re: DA 12-24 on order

2005-11-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 Nov 2005 at 16:15, Paul Stenquist wrote: > I've been wanting the above named lens since it was announced, but it > was hard to justify the price without a real need. But this morning I > got an assignment to shoot an 18' x 18' bedroom for a magazine article. > I looked at it with my DA16-

Re: Shoot now, focus later

2005-11-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 Nov 2005 at 12:17, Tom Reese wrote: > That's an interesting idea and I think there would be some truth in it if the > same people always judged the competitions. The judging panel is never the > same > in the competitions I've seen or entered. Different judges have different > opinions. Co

Re: Shoot now, focus later

2005-11-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 Nov 2005 at 10:57, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > Well I tried to find the notebook he was talking about in the UK and > the model is NA. Perhaps if I knew the spec I could judge. The > cheapest Compaq I found in my quick search was 450 GBP (800 USD?). > > http://www.technoworld.com/produc

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> It just means we need a few more acronyms for the Subject line ... >> like "NUDE:" or "UWHR:" or "ANKL:" or ... well, you get it. >> >Good idea! A nude with a biblical allusion could be NWBA. You rock, >Godders:-). I have n

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and >> female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A >> friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not >> Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadia

Re:PESO Experimental Pano

2005-11-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 Nov 2005 at 0:14, Jay Taylor wrote: > Rob, > Verrry Nice! For fun try holding down the mouse and panning through > the QTVR at ever increasing speeds. > Did you have to use a specialized tripod head to make this image? > Again a fantastic job Rob. Thanks Jay, The head is a standard 3 way

Re: Shoot now, focus later

2005-11-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 Nov 2005 at 18:00, David Mann wrote: > In fact, for best results I know I'd be better off giving someone > else my slides. Having absolute control is one thing, but actually > being able to use it is another. Unfortunately I can't afford to pay > someone else to scan/process/print my

Re: Shoot now, focus later

2005-11-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 Nov 2005 at 20:30, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > BTW: > The magazine Digital Photo Pro's measurement of the R2400 showed it > achieved a higher black density in monochrome printing than any of > the wet lab papers available today that they tested against, which at > least demonstrates that

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread P. J. Alling
They still do, it's just a bit harder for them to enforce thier will, just now... Glen wrote: At 06:13 PM 11/25/2005, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As you point out, this is an international list. Perhaps if you are going to > be on it, you should lea

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't some cultures consider practically all imagery to be the work of the > devil, as if all images were idolatry at some level? Didn't the Taliban > take this stance at one point? I'm afraid, it's not only the Taliban. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the Bi

RE: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Bob W
> -Original Message- > From: Glen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25 November 2005 23:20 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: My first PESO > > At 06:13 PM 11/25/2005, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: > > >William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > As you point out, this is an

Re: PESO -- Time Out

2005-11-25 Thread Peter McIntosh
E.R.N. Reed wrote: One of my collection of moments in family life -- http://www.members.aol.com/ernreed/time-out.jpg Comments? This is a wonderful shot. Save it for dragging out to show her at an appropriate time in the future! :-) Ciao, Peter in Sydney

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 25, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: As you point out, this is an international list. Perhaps if you are going to be on it, you should learn to repect the wishes of people who are living in cultures with different rules than your own. That should settle it. So, no more

RE: DS Remote switch from Shanghai

2005-11-25 Thread Trevor Bailey
Leon. You could probably build up the button with DEVCON, then drill & tap the Devcon. It takes a thread very well. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor. Grafton Australia -Original Message- From: Derby Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 26 November 2005 7:19 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.n

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Paul Stenquist wrote: PDML censorship can be quite severe, and by no means does it all come from American members. Following the showing of my "Temptation of Eve" photos, I had to leave the list for a while until things cooled down. Nudity is very controversial around here, trust me. You're

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Glen
At 06:13 PM 11/25/2005, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As you point out, this is an international list. Perhaps if you are going to > be on it, you should learn to repect the wishes of people who are living in > cultures with different rules than your own

Re: PAW: a page from a calendar

2005-11-25 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Ann Sanfedele wrote: annsan feeling much better Glad to hear it.

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem is that you never know. How do I know if anybody is > offended by this series? (Warning! Someone might) Post this in the UK or any of its former colonies and you won't have to worry about where to spend next sunday. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As you point out, this is an international list. Perhaps if you are going to > be on it, you should learn to repect the wishes of people who are living in > cultures with different rules than your own. That should settle it. So, no more links to pictures

Re: PESO Experimental Pano

2005-11-25 Thread Glen
At 11:00 PM 11/24/2005, Rob Studdert wrote: Enough talk, time for another Pano PESO, this one is a bit of an experiment however. I hope I don't offend too many people but it's in Apple QTVR format (MOV) so if you can't view these standalone or in an enabled Browser then you might have to pass. A

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 25, 2005, at 2:36 PM, Glen wrote: It just means we need a few more acronyms for the Subject line ... like "NUDE:" or "UWHR:" or "ANKL:" or ... well, you get it. UWHR? Do I dare ask what that refers to? Underwear warning, as in Boudoir Lingerie shots ... ? Godfrey

Re: PESO: Inspired by Bob Shell

2005-11-25 Thread Glen
At 05:47 PM 11/25/2005, Paul Stenquist wrote: Nice shot. I don't think any of the models I know can do that. Impressive, to say the least. But a well composed, nicely exposed photo as well. Paul Thanks, Paul. The model and her roommate told me that she could do much more impressive things, i

Re: PESO Experimental Pano

2005-11-25 Thread Peter McIntosh
Rob Studdert wrote: Enough talk, time for another Pano PESO, this one is a bit of an experiment however. I hope I don't offend too many people but it's in Apple QTVR format (MOV) so if you can't view these standalone or in an enabled Browser then you might have to pass. Also it also contains a

Re: PESO: Inspired by Bob Shell

2005-11-25 Thread Glen
At 05:46 PM 11/25/2005, Cotty wrote: Works for me. Very interesting use of shadow to hide the head - all done at the shooting stage or was there some PS work involved? I'm happy to hear that you like it. Yes, there was some PS work done on the image. take care, Glen

Re: PESO: Inspired by Bob Shell

2005-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice shot. I don't think any of the models I know can do that. Impressive, to say the least. But a well composed, nicely exposed photo as well. Paul On Nov 25, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Glen wrote: Since Bob Shell pointed out that a PESO didn't have to be taken with a Pentax camera, I would like to ta

Re: PESO: Inspired by Bob Shell

2005-11-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/11/05, Glen, discombobulated, unleashed: >Since Bob Shell pointed out that a PESO didn't have to be taken with a >Pentax camera, I would like to take this opportunity to post this image: > >http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/peso/Backbend.jpg > >For those sensitive to such things, there is

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good idea! A nude with a biblical allusion could be NWBA. You rock, Godders:-). On Nov 25, 2005, at 5:30 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: It just means we need a few more acronyms for the Subject line ... like "NUDE:" or "UWHR:" or "ANKL:" or ... well, you get it. Godfrey

RE: New Poll -- Favorite film (was -- Shoot now, focus later)

2005-11-25 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I've been speed hungry lately, shooting 400 speed exclusively both BW and Color Neg. Im using TMAX400 rated at 250 (I use Tmax developer) and Kodak high definition 400 rated at 250 (c41). They are both excellent films IMHO. jco

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
On the occasion I mentioned above, I provided a link along with a nudity warning. That didn't stop the censors. I think the combination of an allusion to a biblical story and a female nude was just more than some members could handle. The nudity was quite mild by the way. That's not to say that

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread DagT
Den 25. nov. 2005 kl. 23.30 skrev Godfrey DiGiorgi: It just means we need a few more acronyms for the Subject line ... like "NUDE:" or "UWHR:" or "ANKL:" or ... well, you get it. The problem is that you never know. How do I know if anybody is offended by this series? (Warning! Someone migh

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/11/05, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed: >Well, this is also an international list, so if such things bother >you then don´t look at PESO´s or PAW´s at work. > >Nudity isn´t very controversial around here, so I don´t like the US >puritan rules being spread to the rest of us .-) Definite

Re: New Poll -- Favorite film (was -- Shoot now, focus later)

2005-11-25 Thread Peter McIntosh
We're past due for a new poll, aren't' we? So what's your favorite film, and why? I've got Konica VX-200 colour print film in my MZ-7. I bought it because it was cheap... :-) AU$40 for 10 rolls on eBay. I also like Konica's colours. I've got some Kodak "Black and White" 400 ISO C41 B&W f

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Glen
At 05:30 PM 11/25/2005, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: It just means we need a few more acronyms for the Subject line ... like "NUDE:" or "UWHR:" or "ANKL:" or ... well, you get it. Godfrey UWHR? Do I dare ask what that refers to? :) Glen

PESO: Inspired by Bob Shell

2005-11-25 Thread Glen
Since Bob Shell pointed out that a PESO didn't have to be taken with a Pentax camera, I would like to take this opportunity to post this image: http://webpages.charter.net/glenweb/peso/Backbend.jpg For those sensitive to such things, there is nudity in the image. I'm very interested to hear ev

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It just means we need a few more acronyms for the Subject line ... like "NUDE:" or "UWHR:" or "ANKL:" or ... well, you get it. Godfrey

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread DagT
Den 25. nov. 2005 kl. 23.07 skrev William Robb: - Original Message - From: "DagT" Subject: Re: My first PESO Well, this is also an international list, so if such things bother you then don´t look at PESO´s or PAW´s at work. Nudity isn´t very controversial around here, so I don´t li

Continued digest virus problems

2005-11-25 Thread Brian Dipert
I'm still getting a VirusScan W32/Sober notification, in lieu of a set of messages, with every other digest email that comes through. This started early yesterday morning == Brian Dipert Senior Technical Editor: Mass Storage, Multimedia (audio, displays, 2-D and 3-D grap

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Glen
At 05:07 PM 11/25/2005, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "DagT" Subject: Re: My first PESO Well, this is also an international list, so if such things bother you then don´t look at PESO´s or PAW´s at work. Nudity isn´t very controversial around here, so I don´t like

Re: DA 12-24 on order

2005-11-25 Thread Joseph Tainter
I've been wanting the above named lens since it was announced, but it was hard to justify the price without a real need. But this morning I got an assignment to shoot an 18' x 18' bedroom for a magazine article. I looked at it with my DA16-45 full wide, and while I could come close to getting e

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "DagT" Subject: Re: My first PESO Well, this is also an international list, so if such things bother you then don´t look at PESO´s or PAW´s at work. Nudity isn´t very controversial around here, so I don´t like the US puritan rules being spread to the re

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
PDML censorship can be quite severe, and by no means does it all come from American members. Following the showing of my "Temptation of Eve" photos, I had to leave the list for a while until things cooled down. Nudity is very controversial around here, trust me. Paul On Nov 25, 2005, at 4:55 PM

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
There is no censorship here. Nudity doesn't both me. Since, however, this is a broad-based list(no pun intended), with folks of all backgrounds, ages, and attitudes,what is wrong with having an informal agreement that photos withnudity are acceptable, but that a suitable disclosure with the lin

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread DagT
Well, this is also an international list, so if such things bother you then don´t look at PESO´s or PAW´s at work. Nudity isn´t very controversial around here, so I don´t like the US puritan rules being spread to the rest of us .-) DagT Den 25. nov. 2005 kl. 22.37 skrev Dave Kennedy: Not

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Dave Kennedy
Not wanting to advocate censorship, but the 'family friendly' format or at least a nudity warning is helpful, for me. I sometimes go thru the PDML & PESOs while here at work, and they have very strict rules about inappropriate use of tools. There'd be a huge difference between having a landscape o

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Glen
Bob, for what it's worth, I happen to like ALL the images you have shown in this thread. I think I have fewer preconceived notions about what the photos "should" look like than some other people do. I also don't try to pretend that I know what is happening in the mind of the model, the photogra

DA 12-24 on order

2005-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've been wanting the above named lens since it was announced, but it was hard to justify the price without a real need. But this morning I got an assignment to shoot an 18' x 18' bedroom for a magazine article. I looked at it with my DA16-45 full wide, and while I could come close to getting e

Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun

2005-11-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Pretty neat! Yes, I imagine on 24x36 it is a bit wider and more curvy than I'd find very useful most of the time. I like the rendering on 16x24, haven't bothered to do any rectilinear correction with it yet. Godfrey On Nov 25, 2005, at 9:48 AM, Powell Hargrave wrote: There has been some dis

PAW: People & Portraits 2005 #46 - GDG

2005-11-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Powell inspired me as it seems he was mucking about with the Zenitar this weekend too. Ok, so I'm on the road and the laptop I'm carrying is s slow I can barely process ONE RAW format file per HOUR ... but I like this photo that came out of an evening monkeying about with the Zenitar

Re: PESO: Fisheye Fun

2005-11-25 Thread Jack Davis
I realize you put this up to demonstrate the Zenitar, but I'm taken with the scene. A rich, extremely well composed image. Jack --- Powell Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There has been some discussion of the Zenitar 16mm fisheye so I > thought I > would put up a few shots take with the ZX

Re: DS Remote switch from Shanghai

2005-11-25 Thread Derby Chang
Oh, I see. I thought you meant you press on the remote switch, but you mean you press on the double cable release, and one of the releases is screwed into the switch. The button itself isn't very thick - I haven't prised it open, but it can't be more than a few mm thick. It is 14mm dia. There

RE: My first PESO

2005-11-25 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Bob sadly you will find the same kind of censorship even on this PDML forum - they call it a "family list" then :-( greetings Markus >>Seriously, though, I find it very depressing that there is this >>attitude in the USA that equates all nude photography with pornography. >> >>Bob >>

Re: PESO: from Cottyland

2005-11-25 Thread Powell Hargrave
At 07:34 AM 25/11/2005 , Rick wrote: > Powell >got much better results with the "eyedropper" on the >jpg than I got using it on the tif, which is a >head-scratcher... Depends on where you click with the eyedropper. When not certain what is really grey I will click around on what I think should b

Re: GESO: Weekend in Barcelona

2005-11-25 Thread Lucas Rijnders
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:34:21 +0100, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Great architecture. What is it? Antonio Gaudì. Don't google, get nice large book with color photo's ;-) In the gallery in order: Parc Güell (08-22), Casa Milà (24-31) and Casa Battló (33-36). http://www.jenny.

Re: Lens availability on ebay

2005-11-25 Thread wendy beard
On 11/24/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All. > > I'm in the market for either the FA 100 f2.8 macro or the Tamron AF 90mm > Macro 1:1. > > I see that the FA pops up on ebay quite often. Not every week, but often > enough.Seems to > go for the > high $300's US. >

Re: GESO: Weekend in Barcelona

2005-11-25 Thread Bob Sullivan
Great architecture. What is it? Regards, Bob S. On 11/25/05, Lucas Rijnders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Last weekend I flew to Barcelona for a short break. I don't fly often, so > I couldn't resist taking some pictures out of the window at sunrise. To my > dismay there is more flare

Re: brief impressions of Pentax D FA Macro 100 F/2.8

2005-11-25 Thread Igor Roshchin
Thanks to everybody who responded. I have some further comments and questions. > Joseph Tainter > The poor autofocus performance in low light is not because of the lens. > It is because of the poor autofocus performance of Pentax DSLRs > (those produced so far) in low light. I am comparing

PAW: a page from a calendar

2005-11-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele
100k file working on a 59 photo engagement calendar. doing it in MS Word 97 (publisher sucks big time) here is a photo from my cross country trip in august of 2002 - high-tailing it to San Diego on the highway. LX and 50mm f1.4 http://users.rcn.com/annsan/rt10newmexico4paw.jpg annsan feel

Re: Shoot now, focus later

2005-11-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/24/2005 4:51:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've recently read Ansel Adams in Color. The reason Ansel didn't like color photography was the lack of control he had over it. He would have LOVED Photoshop. -Adam === Yes, I read that book also. And

Re: New Poll -- Favorite film (was -- Shoot now, focus later)

2005-11-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/24/2005 5:32:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Velvia 50. Love those saturated colours! 3. Provia 400F. Low reciprocity failure and a lack of colour shift during long exposures makes it good for astronomy. 4. Provia 100F. For those times when Velvia

Re: Bailey's new book

2005-11-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/11/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: >Hi, > >I had a quick look through Bailey's new book today. Interesting stuff, good >portraits. > >Here's an interview with him, featuring a shoot with Jane Bown: >http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,11710,1646031,00.html Thanks Bob, nic

Re: New Poll -- Favorite film (was -- Shoot now, focus later)

2005-11-25 Thread Bill Owens
Another ancient, discontinued favorite. Agfachrome 64. Bill

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