So did Minolta on the SRT cameras among others but the mirror movements
are quite complex by comparison.
William Robb wrote:
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From: Kostas Kavoussanakis
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
Or maybe they will go 2mm longer, who knows? After all, they have to
sell
Not entirely true. Although all the underpinnings are the same,
the Saturn Sky roadster has a very different appearance from its
Pontiac sibling. I believe there are also differences in just
which engine, transmission and option packages are available.
On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 07:48:15PM
Bob W wrote:
This is a traditional, South London working-class pub close to where I
live.
http://www.web-options.com/30470009.jpg
It amuses me that a publican has a place called Old Friends next to an
Indian takeaway, serves Australian lager, has live reggae, and says
England love it or
They're not built on the same lines, but the same methodology
applies. Many former Toyota quality-control specialists now work for
the big three. And JD Power measures more than initial quality.
Mercury finished second in the most recent JD Power survey of three-
year dependability -- ahead
On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 09:12:10PM -0400, graywolf wrote:
I keep trying to ignore this thread, but but happened to read this short
post before deleting it. If the thing had a manufacturing cost of $35 it
would cost about $350 retail. Since they put them in a lot of cameras
that cost a lot
The differences are entirely sheetmetal. Both are derivations of the
Opel GT, although they don't necessarily get all the options the Opel
does. In fact the Sky is nothing more than the Opel GT with Saturn
badges and a few mods to pass US/Canada crash testing, it's identical
otherwise. The
Hmm. Bit of pincushion distortion in that, eh? The rendering is a
little on the bright/glarey side, a little oversharpened too I think.
Makes the writing a little difficult to read.
I do like the setting, although if you didn't draw my attention to it
I would not have seen the Indian
When I'm shooting with a K lens on my *ist D, my thumb is on the
green button. Without really thinking about it, I just keep whacking
it as I work. So the shutter speed adjusts continuously as I change
the frame or if the light changes. It's really quite simple.
Paul
On Oct 22, 2006, at
All done by a packaging team, that has nothing to do with the original
concept of what Saturn was all about. At one time you could get a
Oldsmobile Alero with the same 6 speed manual transmission as a SAAB 93
or the same six cylinder engine offered on the SAAB 93, but not in the
same car.
On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 09:47:36AM -0600, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
Look at the JD Power numbers. Toyota and Honda are leaders in quality,
but GM is close to the top these days as is Ford. All of the US
In a message dated 10/22/2006 11:54:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Use Camera Raw's white-balance eye dropper. Look for what ought to be
a Zone VIII to Zone IX gray tone (values with close to proper
exposure setting should be between 180 and 230 in R, G and B) and
Nice shot. Another interesting irony is the presence of satellite
television antennas. The times they are a changing.
Paul
On Oct 22, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Bob W wrote:
This is a traditional, South London working-class pub close to where I
live.
http://www.web-options.com/30470009.jpg
It
Point taken Marnie. Three is a good number ;-)
I have two sons, no daughters. None of them shows much interest of
photography :-(
I'll try to do better when grandchildren start rolling in. Hopefully it will
be some years before that happens.
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
Thanks ... you're usually so critical and such a nit picker that an
unqualified pat on the back is something special.
BTW, that K120/2.8 is one great lens. Highly recommended.
Shel
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Old news, old story, old image, old gear, old film ...
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From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
And think how much simpler it would be if you didn't have to do that.
Use A series lenses or later rather than 30 year old outdated equipment.
Simple.
William Robb
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Amazing. I think mine brought $350, and I was pleased. I'm thinking
of selling my K 85/1.8 so I can replace it with a 77 limited. If I
could get half this, I'd do it.
Paul
On Oct 22, 2006, at 11:55 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Look at this.
And think how much simpler it would be if you didn't have to do that.
Paul Stenquist wrote:
When I'm shooting with a K lens on my *ist D, my thumb is on the
green button. Without really thinking about it, I just keep whacking
it as I work. So the shutter speed adjusts continuously as I
Make up your mind and take a single postion
Please. WHY DO YOU think its not in there?
I am tired of you changing your position
Every 5 minutes in opposite directions.
Once you do then we can talk about it.
jco
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From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
Quality is standard across the auto industry these days. Every
measure indicates that. It's unanimous. You're living in the past.
Sorry Paul. I just don't believe that.
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Fine, but that has nothing to do with today's reality. It's as inane
an argument as JCO's aperture simulator logic.
Paul
On Oct 22, 2006, at 11:41 AM, William Robb wrote:
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From: keith_w
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
GM's shoddy workmanship and inattention to
In Ken Waller's recent PESO On the Web the web had a beautiful symmetry.
Not all spiders have got the same sense of geometry, though...:-)
http://www.oksne.net/paw/cobwebs.html
Thanks for looking.
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Thanks Jack.
Interesting thoughts.
I cropped a bit off the left and top to move the berry a bit off
center. I wanted to use the slight diagonal in the stalk.
Jostein
On 10/20/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A bit fussy of me probably, but I'd take some off of the bottom and
then if
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From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
Once again, why?
Because the K mount went through another generational change with the
advent of the DSLR. At this point, if you want to use really old lenses,
you have to do some of the leg work.
If you don't want
Minolta was killed off by their failure to bring to market a DSLR in a
timely fashion, compounded by their failure to take early advantage of
their lead in AF SLR systems. This had nothing to do with the fact that
they successfully caried two incompatible mounts for nearly 20 years
before
Once again, why?
William Robb wrote:
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From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
And think how much simpler it would be if you didn't have to do that.
Use A series lenses or later rather than 30 year old outdated equipment.
Simple.
William Robb
An interesting observation. Dunno about the rest, but I shoot Sunny 16
quite often (I own several unmetered cameras, and don't always bother
pulling out the meter)
In fact, here's an example, on slide film no less:
http://flickr.com/photos/mawz/273209758/
Flickr-phobes/larger size click here:
If I didn't have to work a bit for my exposure readings, I wouldn't
be as conscious of what my current settings were. I've found that
being involved is a good thing.
Paul
On Oct 22, 2006, at 1:59 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
And think how much simpler it would be if you didn't have to do that.
Yeah it's so stupid, its funny. They say that
The cam sensor would make the body cost more
And don't want to pay the $50 for it and then
Go out and buy thousands of dollars of lenses
Which may have not needed replacing if they
Had the $50 better body.
jco
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From: [EMAIL
Interesting so you discount JCO's experience with cameras but promote
yours with vehicles...
William Robb wrote:
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From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
Fine, but that has nothing to do with today's reality. It's as inane
an argument as JCO's
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From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
It just seems to me that this thread has a lot of people yelling at
each
other who think you need a lot of electronic magic to get properly
exposed pictures.
John's question was whether or not the FD mount
Cool. It's interesting how often the oldies show up. How many times a
week do you run?
I did my normal 4K morning run. No Pentax cameras on my route unless
I bring one:-). And you're a spring chicken compared to me. I started
running when I was 43. I'm now 58. I've been running at least 12
Its PURE reality of everything I posted.
Why are you calling that sematics when
It's just the SIMPLE facts? Fully supported K/M lenses
Can do All of that stuff and on these DSLRs you
Get none of that stuff.
jco
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: The JCO survey
Are you implying that it's not correct to
Ask simple questions on this list? If you are,
You are a fucking idiot for thinking that.
Your simple questions are often trying to support your own particular
agenda.
Be more specific please. Body cost reduction
And or new lens selling profits or whatever?
Your being way too vague. I already have posted
My best theory on this , so whats yours?
JCO
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Sent:
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Subject: Re: The JCO survey
But it was an entirely mechanical system. No electronics in the lens
at
all.
So what?
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And JCO thinks we should have an aperture simulator forever. Why not
look at the data and see for yourself?
On Oct 22, 2006, at 2:49 PM, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
Quality is standard across the auto industry these
I didn't change the subject YOU DID.
You claimed that the rubber rings
Don't wear down and I told you correctly
That they do. And when they wear down
They are more slippery when when ribbed
Or knurled as they come new.
I don't need to save face. I stand behind
Everything I post and on ocassions,
- Original Message -
From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
Interesting so you discount JCO's experience with cameras but promote
yours with vehicles...
I haven't done that Peter, I have pointed out where JCO's experience
is out of touch with reality.
There is a bit of a
You're out of touch if you think that
Your posts are consistant, logical, factual, arguments
Because they certainly are not.
jco
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Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 4:16 PM
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From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
Fine, but that has nothing to do with today's reality. It's as inane
an argument as JCO's aperture simulator logic.
The reality is that in my experience, GM hasn't built a quality vehicle
for as long as I can
Yes, although the MD system did get smaller as time passed.
-Adam
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
You never answered my question, did minolta
Carry two complete SLR systems concurrently
For 20 years? ( That would be bodies and a full
Line of lenses ).
jco
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http://www.web-options.com/30470009.jpg
We Need An English Day, Not a [? what ?]
keith whaley
not a British Day.
This is a reference to our local politics. The Chancellor of the
Exchequer, Gordon Brown (a Scot), recently floated the idea of a
special day to celebrate Britishness.
Yes, I've thought about that. Some self-published novels have
actually done well when the writer has promoted them sufficiently.
I've heard of sales in the 50,000 range on self published. But I
probably won't do that. If I can't publish this novel, I'll just
write another one. Something
Calling the big three domestics isn't a problem. The problem is that
when import brands build cars in the US the corporate profits go back
to Japan, Korea or wherever. When the big three build them, the money
stays here. We want the money.
Paul
On Oct 22, 2006, at 1:49 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
And that's problematic as well, since these are mostly shareholder
controlled companies. Profits go to the shareholders, wherever they may
be (And don't assume that these shareholders are only in the company's
country of origin). You can only be sure of where wages go.
-Adam
Paul Stenquist
Use Camera Raw's white-balance eye dropper. Look for what ought to be
a Zone VIII to Zone IX gray tone (values with close to proper
exposure setting should be between 180 and 230 in R, G and B) and
click on it ... I find this gets me very very close to the mark most
of the time.
Godfrey
I'd prefer to see that kind of shot as an educated guess.
Bob W wrote:
It just seems to me that this thread has a lot of people
yelling at each
other who think you need a lot of electronic magic to get properly
exposed pictures.
Too right. The proper way to do it is to
Thanks Eric glad you found something to brighten your trip through the
archives ;-))
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Eric Featherstone
http://home.earthlink.net/~ebay-pics/fallenleaf2.html
A great photo. I really like it. I've been away a while and this makes
ploughing through the
Yes, you're correct. All those periods are a pain in the ass:-). And
that last s just seems to slip out from time to time:-).
paul
Paul
On Oct 22, 2006, at 6:08 PM, Bob Shell wrote:
On Oct 22, 2006, at 4:03 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
No JD Powers isn't just INITIAL quality. Do you always
On 10/22/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I don't take many low-light photos outdoors, so when things aren't
quite right I'm not always sure of the explanation.
In this picture there is a string of phantom lights which I assume are
a reflection of the real lightbulbs shown:
And your point? (As if this thread hadn't morphed off in several
different directions already).
William Robb wrote:
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From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
It just seems to me that this thread has a lot of people yelling at
each
other who think you
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006, P. J. Alling wrote:
William Robb wrote:
Use A series lenses or later rather than 30 year old outdated equipment.
Simple.
Once again, why?
Because money (which makes the world go round, lest we forget) is no
issue.
Kostas
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You need to be more specific, WHAT exactly is incorrect in
My posting :
=
Secondly the stop down method is flawed in
That it sucks away meter sensitivity, takes
More time, and needs to be done over and over
Again everytime the lighting changes,
Arent you the guy who admitted he sold
Some old lenses and bought some new
Ones because of what they did?
You are really being an ass on this.
You have also argued in the past that
The change to no aperture was to
Help sell new lenses. Typical for
You, you take opposite positions
Everytime you
It just seems to me that this thread has a lot of people yelling at each
other who think you need a lot of electronic magic to get properly
exposed pictures.
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
But it was an entirely
Sure is different !
Looks like he got caught in the aperture simulator thread. :+}
Kenneth Waller
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From: Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO - another cobweb
In Ken Waller's recent PESO On the Web the web had a beautiful symmetry.
Not all spiders
On 23/10/06, Jim King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good news! Ned Bunnell, Pentax Marketing Director in the US, advises
that the US release is still scheduled for early November in this DPR
Pentax forum thread: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?
forum=1036message=20561036
His post was
Are you implying that it's not correct to
Ask simple questions on this list? If you are,
You are a fucking idiot for thinking that.
jco
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William Robb
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:24 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss
You'll probably want to leave the list again for a while.
My question is - for how long is a while ?
Kenneth Waller
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
- Original Message -
From: Daniel J. Matyola
I have left this
No JD Powers isn't just INITIAL quality. Do you always speak
emphatically of things which you obviously have no knowledge. JD
Powers researches all manner of things, including long-term
durability. Why do you always shoot your mouth off without doing any
research or even any serious
I'd disagree with one thing, many men who aren't into photography will
buy an SLR because it's the biggest and most complicated camera. Then
they'll borrow their wife/GF's PS for most use (My father is a classic
example of this).
-Adam
Vic Mortelmans wrote:
Hi,
it's true, I also got into
- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
And JCO thinks we should have an aperture simulator forever. Why not
look at the data and see for yourself?
I may pick up a copy of LemonAid
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: The JCO survey
A series lenses and later do not manual focus as
Well as K and m series lenses. For manual focus
Fans, those lenses are a downgrade in that respect.
They focus just as well, and generally have better optical
On 10/22/06 4:16 PM, William Robb, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can we end this thread and move on? Please?
You'll probably want to leave the list again for a while.
I do too.
I don't care much about one thread going wild but this is insane. JCO might
be bad but others are just as bad. The
- Original Message -
From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: The JCO survey
Why do you think that Pentax K/M lenses are not
Fully supported on their DSLRs? .. I cant argue with
You on this if you keep changing your
Position.
My position has not changed, and I've mentioned a few times
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: Spotmatic F and Super Takumars
I have seen many a lenses in my day and
On well used examples the rubber DOES
Wear down. Its just not that durable
Compared to metal rings.
Durability wasn't the issue, that is just you trying to
On 22/10/06, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
Obviously, the camera is going to be in
great demand. They may not have anticipated that, but they're
handling it well. Kudos to them. Good news for us.
Once an advertising man, always an advertising man ;-))
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Cotty
Huh? Another inscrutable post from JCO.
Paul
On Oct 22, 2006, at 4:39 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Don't you understand when you buy a new car you
Are only getting what they are doing lately?
Its not going to do you any good 10 years
Down the road unless you are looking to buy
A 10 year old
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: The JCO survey
Not full sensitivity OPEN aperture metering
, continous AE, and automatic AE compensation
for varible aperture zoom and macro usage they don't.
This is mostly a matter of semantics, not reality.
William Robb
I have left this list on three separate occasions in the recent past
because I found the attitude of, and the comments by, J. C. O'Connell
so disturbing. I was afraid that if I continued to read such
material, I would disgrace myself by descending to the same level.
Can we end this thread and
On Oct 22, 2006, at 12:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Use Camera Raw's white-balance eye dropper. Look for what ought to be
a Zone VIII to Zone IX gray tone (values with close to proper
exposure setting should be between 180 and 230 in R, G and B) and
click on it ... I find this gets me
Paul Stenquist wrote:
Cool. It's interesting how often the oldies show up.
It looked to be in fine condition, too - even though it was clearly the
guy's regular shooting camera.
How many times a week do you run?
6-7 days a week. Only about 40 miles a week these days due to time
Hi,
While I posted a lot of pics here in BW, I'd been shooting some color
since 1980 or so.
So pleased you liked the photo.
Shel
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Well done indeed!
Your're into color now, rather than BW?
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That wasn't a simple question. That was more of a
A command. I am talking about asking simple
Questions from people who appear to know
What they are talking about. That's what
Lists are for, discussions, and discussions
Include questions.
jco
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Quality is standard across the auto industry these days. Every
measure indicates that. It's unanimous. You're living in the past.
Say hi to JCO while you're there.
Paul
On Oct 22, 2006, at 2:28 PM, William Robb wrote:
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From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: The JCO
- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
I'm trying to change it to a discussion of automakers and quality:-).
happy?
WW
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I ran a 10k race this morning (and I'm getting old and slow) and while
staggering through the finishing chute I noticed one of the race
officials taking some photos... with a Spotmatic F!
I complimented him on his beautiful camera :-)
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K/M lenses cannot support programmed
Exposure modes because in programmed
Exposrue modes the camera choosed the
Fstop and the shutter speed based on
Light condtions. K/M lenses cannot
Have their fstops set by the body because
They lack the consistant linear stop
Down levers ( even non-linear
William Robb wrote:
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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: The JCO survey
NO, you idiot, I said Canon couldn't
Carry two incompatible SLR camera systems
Concurrently. Someones else suggested Minolta
Did and I stated what happened to Minolta.
I never suggested
Thanks Lasse. Good to see you here. I'm hoping this will be the
beginning of the next part of my life. But one never knows. All we
can do is to keep pounding away at it. I think writing is a habit. If
you do it every day, it becomes a part of your life. It's like
dieting. You just have to
Postscript: I like you too, Bill. But we have to end this.
Paul
On Oct 22, 2006, at 5:01 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I agree. It's way out of hand. Bill is as guilty as JCO. But he's
well liked here, so no one wants to say that. I will. Time to shut up
and let it go, Bill.
Paul
On Oct 22,
Like I said earlier the benefits of open aperture
Metering FAR outweigh the very very negligible
Errors caused by cam sensor tolerances. That's why
Stop down metering went away 35 years ago on nearly
All SLR cameras from nearly all mfgrs.
jco
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JD powers is INITIAL quality, not how
Well something is built for long term but rather how
Well something was assembled inspected before
It leaves the factory. PERIOD.
jco
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graywolf
Sent: Sunday, October 22,
Ford built supplied Mazda a version of the Ranger pickup built on the same
assembly line - the only differences were cosmetic.
Same happened with the Mercury Villager Nissan Quest - designed by Nissan
built by Ford.
Both the non Ford versions generally were better received than the Ford
From a trip I made in October 2004, from Chicago to Niagara falls, Michigan
upper and lower peninsula,
along the Mississippi to St Louis, over the plains to Denver Colorado and back
to Chicago.
A selection of the many images made with the *istD during those three weeks.
Marvelous photo!
On 10/20/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I really like this one Ken
The lines and dew are great.
Nice find
Dave
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Check out
http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
Taken last fall, in the Upper Peninsula
Lovely Portrait!
On 10/19/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In order to settle this cute grandchildren thing, once and for all, I'd
like to present Jennifer.
She was strutting around with this parasol and I had an IQZoom 90mc,
w/Kodak 400ISO, hanging on me. I turned her back to the sun
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006, P. J. Alling wrote:
William Robb wrote:
Use A series lenses or later rather than 30 year old outdated equipment.
Simple.
Once again, why?
Because money (which makes the world go round, lest we forget) is no
issue.
Just to be pedantic, I'll note the FA had AMP (Automatic multi-pattern)
metering, matrix metering was introduced on the F801/N8008 (The hardware
was identical though).
To this day, I find the FA has one of the best meters Nikon's ever
produced. In testing, I found it to outperform the later 6
http://pages.ca.inter.net/~brooksdj/madawaska06/
Nothing special, not a lot of colour that weekend i'm afraid, but, i
thought ya'll might be interested.
istD and Nikon D200 used.
Dave
Equine Photography in York Region
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The canon lenses may have become completely
Compatible for other reasons so the register
Change was a moot issue.
jco
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I'm trying to change it to a discussion of automakers and quality:-).
Paul
On Oct 22, 2006, at 3:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
I have left this list on three separate occasions in the recent past
because I found the attitude of, and the comments by, J. C. O'Connell
so disturbing. I was
At any fstop smaller than wide open, especially
Smaller fstops like f11/f16 you lose a lot of light
Reaching to the meter and eventually as the light
Gets lower like than you will lose metering accuracy
And lose metering completely where you don't with
Wide open metering because there is much more
Not full sensitivity OPEN aperture metering
, continous AE, and automatic AE compensation
for varible aperture zoom and macro usage they don't.
jco
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
William Robb
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:15 AM
To:
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From: Daniel J. Matyola
I have left this list on three separate occasions in the recent past
because I found the attitude of, and the comments by, J. C. O'Connell
so disturbing. I was afraid that if I continued to read such
material, I would disgrace myself by
Some nice pics, Dave. I wish they were a bit larger.
Paul
On Oct 22, 2006, at 3:58 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
http://pages.ca.inter.net/~brooksdj/madawaska06/
Nothing special, not a lot of colour that weekend i'm afraid, but, i
thought ya'll might be interested.
istD and Nikon D200 used.
An A lens is enough for pentax to switch to matrix metering. A type
lenses only transfer the max aperture and eject a electric contact
from it's mount when the A setting is selected. Sigma and others have
the contact permanently ejected and probably use an internal
electrical switch.
I never did
I have seen many a lenses in my day and
On well used examples the rubber DOES
Wear down. Its just not that durable
Compared to metal rings.
jco
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William Robb
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 12:01 PM
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A series lenses and later do not manual focus as
Well as K and m series lenses. For manual focus
Fans, those lenses are a downgrade in that respect.
jco
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William Robb
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:18 PM
NO, you idiot, I said Canon couldn't
Carry two incompatible SLR camera systems
Concurrently. Someones else suggested Minolta
Did and I stated what happened to Minolta.
I never suggested Pentax carry two different
Incompatible SLR systems. They don't even
Have that. They have new bodies that don't
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