RE: PUG gallery usability

2008-09-25 Thread John Coyle
Hi Scott - I'm using IE7, version 7.30.5730.11, on XP SP3 and have had no problems with the gallery. HTH John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Loveless Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2008 12:14 AM To: Pent

Re: OT: North By Northwest

2008-09-25 Thread David Mann
On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:29 AM, frank theriault wrote: I know it's counter-intuitive, but helmets actually increase risk-taking behaviour. Since they were wearing helmets they thought they were invincible, and so considered copulating on a railroad track before an oncoming train to be a risk worth

Re: New office

2008-09-25 Thread David Mann
On Sep 25, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Bob W wrote: They utilise it re idea shower loop back situations when they touch base offline about the secretary's delivery pipeline and the boss's low-hanging fruit. Someone's in line for a promotion. Now wash your mouth out. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mai

Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2?

2008-09-25 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Photography is a waste of time. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailma

PESO - oats

2008-09-25 Thread AlunFoto
Playing with fill-flash... What say you? In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html Direct to (larger) image: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SNjQ4UCZDKI/ATo/3qfYCVhVxtI/s1600-h/20080921-0051.jpg Direct to image, abbreviated: http://stutt.no/458215 Jostein -- http

Re: Official, details on Dpreview

2008-09-25 Thread mike wilson
Bob is the product of millenia of cultural advancement, from grunting Neanderthals to Sir Isaaac Newton rubbing his sore head and beyond. That sort of stuff doesn't come in a paper tube. It comes in a glass. > > From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/09/24 Wed PM 05:26:52 GMT

Re: PESO - oats

2008-09-25 Thread David Savage
Works for me. I've been trying similar stuff with the new camera the last couple of days. Cheers, Dave 2008/9/25 AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Playing with fill-flash... > What say you? > > In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html > Direct to (larger) image: > http://1.bp

Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2?

2008-09-25 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/09/24 Wed PM 07:12:24 GMT > To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" > Subject: RE: Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2? > > > > > > My father is also dead, but he wasn't a dentist. > > > [...] > > > > So other than the dentist thing,

Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2?

2008-09-25 Thread mike wilson
> > From: mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/09/25 Thu AM 08:36:10 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2? > > > > > > From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Photography is a waste of time. Hmmm. I'm sure there was an

Re: PESO - oats

2008-09-25 Thread mike wilson
I like the subtlety of the mix. Other versions? > > From: AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/09/25 Thu AM 08:43:25 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: PESO - oats > > Playing with fill-flash... > What say you? > > In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html >

Re: OT: North By Northwest

2008-09-25 Thread Mme RD
David Mann a écrit : On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:29 AM, frank theriault wrote: I know it's counter-intuitive, but helmets actually increase risk-taking behaviour. Since they were wearing helmets they thought they were invincible, and so considered copulating on a railroad track before an oncoming tr

Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2?

2008-09-25 Thread David Savage
2008/9/25 mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> From: mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2008/09/25 Thu AM 08:36:10 GMT >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2? >> >> >> > >> > From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > Photograph

Re: PESO - oats

2008-09-25 Thread Jack Davis
Well seen, Jostein. Tiny nits; even though the background is nicely OOF, ideally it could have been even softer. Oat shape is extremely nice, but can't help wishing I could see a little less stem. Jack --- On Thu, 9/25/08, AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2?

2008-09-25 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/09/25 Thu AM 10:27:46 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2? > > 2008/9/25 mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >> > >> From: mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Date: 2008/09

PESO - Specific Prohibition

2008-09-25 Thread frank theriault
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/specific-prohibition.html Cats in the neighbourhood figured this gave them carte blanche... cheers, frank ;-) -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listin

Re: PESO - oats

2008-09-25 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jostein, I love the lighting of the oats, but find the horizon distracting. The blue of the sky or the tan of the fields would be a better background. The strong three bands behind the oats is pulling my attention away from the oats. Were you trying for something special there? Regards, Bob S. On

Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit

2008-09-25 Thread John Sessoms
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sep 24, 2008, at 7:14 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > *IST D, K10D did ... at least got closer than the Leica does. How can you tell? It's just a prototype at present. G Well, let me re-phrase: *IST D, K10D do ... at least get closer than what is cl

PESO: Bypass Stump

2008-09-25 Thread Jack Davis
Took another turn around the Sutter Buttes and along what's called the "Bypass". It's used to meter high river water flow during our heavy winter rains. Drove by this location and back again twice before deciding to drive down off the levee (4-wheel drive) and into the wild land area near this a

RE: PESO - oats

2008-09-25 Thread John Sessoms
From: AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Playing with fill-flash... What say you? In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html Direct to (larger) image: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SNjQ4UCZDKI/ATo/3qfYCVhVxtI/s1600-h/20080921-0051.jpg Direct to image, abbreviated: http

Re: PESO - oats

2008-09-25 Thread Bruce Dayton
Well, the fill flash does make itself known. It certainly dims the background a bit - kind of gives a contrast boost to the oats. I think I would like to see just a bit less flash and a slight boost to the background light. Hope you did lots of experiments. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, S

Re: PESO - Specific Prohibition

2008-09-25 Thread Bruce Dayton
Funny sign. I gotta believe that all they would need to do is fold the handle down on the mower and the dogs would quit seeing it as a target... -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, September 25, 2008, 6:58:07 AM, you wrote: ft> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/specific-prohibition.html

Re: Canon 5D MKII video

2008-09-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Adam Maas wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:42 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John Sessoms wrote: From: Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A friend tells me that the RED people are also working on an DSLR. Who are the "RED people"? They make th

Re: PESO - Specific Prohibition

2008-09-25 Thread Jack Davis
I agree with this! Especially when I'm next door mowing my lawn. 8( Good catch, Frank. Jack --- On Thu, 9/25/08, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: PESO - Specific Prohibition > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, Sept

Re: PESO: Lighthouse Steps

2008-09-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Doug wrote: On Sep 24, 2008, at 8:30 PM, David Savage wrote: 2008/9/25 frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:58 AM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2008/9/23 frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: As for the lighthouse steps, I have to

OT: Interesting take on the big crunch

2008-09-25 Thread Subash
for those times, when it is raining outside (or its equivalent) and you have absolutely nothing else to do a bit long... but i personally enjoyed reading it, though i am not a 'financial' guy http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/taleb08/taleb08_index.html "When Nassim Taleb talks about the l

Re: OT: North By Northwest

2008-09-25 Thread Gonz
Does this qualify for a Darwin award (double no less)? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sometimes people take the closing scene just a bit too literally... > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7629433.stm > > Bob > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >

Re: PESO - oats

2008-09-25 Thread ann sanfedele
AlunFoto wrote: Playing with fill-flash... What say you? I say I think I'll make oatmeal for breakfast Lovely shot, J ann In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html Direct to (larger) image: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SNjQ4UCZDKI/ATo/3qfYCVhVxtI/s1

Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2?

2008-09-25 Thread Ken Waller
Photography is a waste of time. Especially if you use too long a shutter speed. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2? From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL

Re: PESO - oats

2008-09-25 Thread Ken Waller
What Jack said. Although stem length doesn't bother me Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PESO - oats Well seen, Jostein. Tiny nits; even though the background is nicely OOF, ideally it could have bee

Re: OT: North By Northwest

2008-09-25 Thread P. J. Alling
I think it deserves a Darwin with oak leaf clusters... Gonz wrote: Does this qualify for a Darwin award (double no less)? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sometimes people take the closing scene just a bit too literally... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/

Re: PESO - oats

2008-09-25 Thread Jack Davis
As is all too often the case, my message was not that clear. :/ What I intended was that had the stem been slightly shorter, the seed head would have been slightly further to the right. Jack --- On Thu, 9/25/08, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sub

Re: OT: Interesting take on the big crunch

2008-09-25 Thread Bob Sullivan
Subash, Thanks, that's an excellent and timely article for those with a math or financial background. It puts the current woes of the financial system into perspective. Give me redundant and non-optimized systems! I also liked the author's bio in the Times. http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/b

Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit

2008-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 25, 2008, at 7:14 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sep 24, 2008, at 7:14 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > *IST D, K10D did ... at least got closer than the Leica does. How can you tell? It's just a prototype at present. G Well, let me re-phrase: *IST

OT: How was your day at the office, dear?

2008-09-25 Thread Bob W
Mine was... http://www.web-options.com/pants.jpg Bob (photo by one of my colleagues) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

RE: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2?

2008-09-25 Thread Bob W
> > > > > > My father is also dead, but he wasn't a dentist. > > > > > [...] > > > > > > So other than the dentist thing, our fathers have something > > > in common... > > > > > > > Mine too - that's an incredible coincidence! Maybe we're long-lost > > half-brothers. > > I think I'm beginnin

Re: Seriously OT - school system shenanigans in Pittsburgh

2008-09-25 Thread Bob Blakely
1.The mandate of any school system, public or private, is to EDUCATE our children. 2.The level of education MUST be such that our children have what is necessary to compete in the REAL world. 3.It is NOT the job of ANY school system, public or private, to "adjust th

RE: PESO - Specific Prohibition

2008-09-25 Thread Bob W
> > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/specific-prohibition.html > > Cats in the neighbourhood figured this gave them carte blanche... > > cheers, > frank > > ;-) Indeed. Equally the local canids might see it as leave to poo on the aforementioned mowers. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss M

Re: way OT - school system shenanigans in Pittsburgh

2008-09-25 Thread Bob Blakely
Pretty much... Regards Bob... --- "I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings." -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL P

Re: PESO - oats

2008-09-25 Thread AlunFoto
Dave, Mike, Jack, Bob S., Ken, Bruce, John S., Ann, Thanks for taking time to comment! The decision to pop the flash in the first place was to mute the background relative to the straw. As some of you remarked, it's not all together unobtrusive still. It is just another one of those situations wh

RE: Interesting take on the big crunch

2008-09-25 Thread Bob W
I thought everybody had seen this coming, including the bankers. Everybody knew that someday the debts would be called in and the music would stop. They were just gambling that they wouldn't be holding the ticking parcel when the time came. Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Stone Age Photographer

2008-09-25 Thread Bob W
Is this the new Leica S2? http://www.foto8.com/home/content/view/658/200/ Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Cossacks

2008-09-25 Thread Bob W
http://www.foto8.com/home/content/view/664/161/ Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

PESO: Farmacia

2008-09-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
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RE: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit

2008-09-25 Thread Bob W
> > lol > > And ... I visited my friends at the local commercial/high end photo > outlet today as I hadn't been in to say hello for a couple of > months. > One of the owners is at Photokina, the other was at her desk. > We spent > a half hour talking about business and stuff. > > Sight an

Re: Stone Age Photographer

2008-09-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is this the new Leica S2? > > http://www.foto8.com/home/content/view/658/200/ > > Bob > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Stone Age Photographer

2008-09-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I saw an exhibit Of Tichy's works and cameras at the Zurich Kunsthaus three years ago. A few of the images were interesting, many were mundane. His cameras were, however, enormously fascinating. Dan M On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Daniel J. Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 25

OT: Two more applicants for a Darwin

2008-09-25 Thread Bob W
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Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit

2008-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Sight and price unseen, they've got 10-15 firm pre-orders for the Leica S2 already. So ... anyone cogitating that this is "too expensive for pro photographers" and would not sell, think again. Evidently, a lot of commercial photographers have been waiting for exactly th

Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit

2008-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 25, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Don't think I'll be one of the buyers though... Whether I'll be one of the buyers depends on where my photography goes. Right now, that's not my direction. But there's nothing to say that it won't be in a year or two. I don't like to put t

RE: OT: Two more applicants for a Darwin

2008-09-25 Thread John Celio
Wow. I wonder what drug(s) they were on? John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto Original Message Subject: OT: Two more applicants for a Darwin From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, September 25, 2008 12:22 pm To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mai

Re: Stone Age Photographer

2008-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 25, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Bob W wrote: Is this the new Leica S2? http://www.foto8.com/home/content/view/658/200/ I think it's the Leica Sminus1, actually. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, plea

RE: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit

2008-09-25 Thread Bob W
they will certainly have consulted a great many very serious photographers about the design and functionality of this camera. Remember how many M cameras they tested and gave away to people in Magnum over the years. It wouldn't surprise me at all if some of the biggest names in photography had been

Re: way OT - school system shenanigans in Pittsburgh

2008-09-25 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My experience is there is two different 'Left's'. One is the honestly > Socialist/Marxist types who have very solid grounded reasons for their > belief. The other are folk marxists operating as 'Liberals' and > 'Progressives'

PESO - Ernesto's Handiwork

2008-09-25 Thread frank theriault
I know I've been hitting you guys with a lot of Bikeporn PESOs this week, but I popped into the Jet Fuel Cafe on Sunday. It's kind of a hangout for cyclists, but since Sunday was Car-free Day (I don't know if that was a local or international thing) there was even more than the usual amount of eye

Re: OT: funny item on ebay

2008-09-25 Thread ann sanfedele
P. J. Alling wrote: Not quite 1929, the great depression was caused by a liquidity crisis, but the Government didn't understand that and actually made it worse. Today I doubt that the Federal Reserve will make the same mistake, they'll find whole new mistakes to make... details :-) basi

Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit

2008-09-25 Thread Toralf Lund
Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Sight and price unseen, they've got 10-15 firm pre-orders for the Leica S2 already. So ... anyone cogitating that this is "too expensive for pro photographers" and would not sell, think again. Evidently, a lot of commercial photographers have been w

Re: OT: North By Northwest

2008-09-25 Thread John Sessoms
From: Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Does this qualify for a Darwin award (double no less)? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sometimes people take the closing scene just a bit too literally... > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7629433.stm > > Bob > As lo

Re: PESO - oats

2008-09-25 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:43 AM, AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Playing with fill-flash... > What say you? > > In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html > Direct to (larger) image: > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SNjQ4UCZDKI/ATo/3qfYCVhVxtI/s1600-h/20080921-

RE: way OT - school system shenanigans in Pittsburgh

2008-09-25 Thread Bob W
> > > My experience is there is two different 'Left's'. One is > the honestly > > Socialist/Marxist types who have very solid grounded > reasons for their > > belief. The other are folk marxists operating as 'Liberals' and > > 'Progressives' who seem to prefer a neo-aristocratic system of feel >

New grip for K10D K20D body

2008-09-25 Thread Toine
Maybe old news... Has anyone tried this: http://www.pentax.de/de/news/1003/foto_news.php If you want Pentax installs a new shell with a new grip on your old body??? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit

2008-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Toralf Lund wrote: From where I'm standing, "Leica" looks like much less of a name in the MF market than in 35mm, comparatively speaking. Meaning that "Hasselblad" seems at least as big. Leica never made a medium format film camera. So they have no "name" in

Some fall with D-range 200%

2008-09-25 Thread Roman Melihhov
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20080925222659 ^^^ While shooting landscapes or in forest D-range can be very useful addition. I wonder why it doesn't work with ISO 100 though. Newest Pentax K-m has shadow enhancement in addition to highlights for EDR. Hopefully next Pentax DSLR would have more

Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit

2008-09-25 Thread Derby Chang
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Toralf Lund wrote: From where I'm standing, "Leica" looks like much less of a name in the MF market than in 35mm, comparatively speaking. Meaning that "Hasselblad" seems at least as big. Leica never made a medium format film camera. So th

Re: PESO - Ernesto's Handiwork

2008-09-25 Thread Jack Davis
Not moved much by the subject matter, but I do appreciate your well done exposure and conversion skills. Jack --- On Thu, 9/25/08, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: PESO - Ernesto's Handiwork > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Da

Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit

2008-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I do think it would be nice if Hoya/Pentax would get their collective arse moving on that front with the 645D. I'm sure they have business reasons for the delays to deal with, but there are a lot of Pentax MF users who would be made happy with the release of this camera

Re: PESO - Ernesto's Handiwork

2008-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/09/ernestos-handiwork.html M. Italian bicycle! Regards, Mark Roberts, Pinarello owner ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: New grip for K10D K20D body

2008-09-25 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 25, 2008, at 15:46, Toine wrote: Maybe old news... Has anyone tried this: http://www.pentax.de/de/news/1003/foto_news.php If you want Pentax installs a new shell with a new grip on your old body??? What is the point/benefit? Looks like there is an indentation on the front by wher

Re: OT: funny item on ebay

2008-09-25 Thread John Sessoms
From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> P. J. Alling wrote: >Not quite 1929, the great depression was caused by a liquidity crisis, >but the Government didn't understand that and actually made it worse. >Today I doubt that the Federal Reserve will make the same mistake, >they'll find whole n

RE: Some fall with D-range 200%

2008-09-25 Thread Bob W
The first shot is very nice indeed - lovely tonal range. The others are bit gaudy for my taste, but quite nice all the same. Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Roman Melihhov > Sent: 25 September 2008 21:51 > To: pdml@pdml.net > S

Re: Seriously OT - school system shenanigans in Pittsburgh

2008-09-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's all well in good in theory. But there are times when pragmatic decisions must be made. I taught ninth grade in a Chicago inner city high school. If I had taught the curriculum as provided by the board of education and failed anyone who didn't achieve 70%, NO ONE would have made it be

Re: PESO - Specific Prohibition

2008-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/specific-prohibition.html Cats in the neighbourhood figured this gave them carte blanche... Either that or... http://www.robertstech.com/temp/lawnmowers.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailm

Re: OT: funny item on ebay

2008-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
John Sessoms wrote: From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> P. J. Alling wrote: >Not quite 1929, the great depression was caused by a liquidity crisis, >but the Government didn't understand that and actually made it worse. >Today I doubt that the Federal Reserve will make the same mistake,

Re: Seriously OT - school system shenanigans in Pittsburgh

2008-09-25 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1.The mandate of any school system, public or private, is to > EDUCATE our children. > 2.The level of education MUST be such that our children have what > is necessary to compete in the REAL world. > 3.It is

Re: OT: Two more applicants for a Darwin

2008-09-25 Thread Derby Chang
Bob W wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7636577.stm Geez. English cops are still using film cameras? D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PD

Re: PESO - Specific Prohibition

2008-09-25 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > frank theriault wrote: >> >> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/specific-prohibition.html >> >> Cats in the neighbourhood figured this gave them carte blanche... > > Either that or... > http://www.robertstech.com/tem

Re: OT: Two more applicants for a Darwin

2008-09-25 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Geez. > > English cops are still using film cameras? Nikons, it would seem... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.ne

Re: PESO - Ernesto's Handiwork

2008-09-25 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > frank theriault wrote: > >> http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/09/ernestos-handiwork.html > > M. Italian bicycle! Well, Mark, I know you have an Italian CF frame, and as you know I have an Italian aluminium frame, b

Mama's taking Kodachrome away

2008-09-25 Thread Derby Chang
Has anyone posted this yet? http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/biztech/09/22/kodakchrome.fading.ap/index.html D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, p

Anyone ever use these guys?

2008-09-25 Thread John Sessoms
I've been kind of down in the dumps lately and not inspired to take any photographs. I got the bright idea to Google something like "daily photography assignments" thinking I might find some ideas to motivate myself. One of the hits I got was for this site: http://picturestock.com/index.php

Re: Mama's taking Kodachrome away

2008-09-25 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Has anyone posted this yet? > > http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/biztech/09/22/kodakchrome.fading.ap/index.html > Sad. Inevitable, I suppose, but still sad. cheers, frank, who hasn't had a roll of TriX developed in over

Re: PESO - Specific Prohibition

2008-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/specific-prohibition.html Cats in the neighbourhood figured this gave them carte blanche... Either that or... http://www.robertstec

Re: Mama's taking Kodachrome away

2008-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone posted this yet? http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/biztech/09/22/kodakchrome.fading.ap/index.html Sad. Inevitable, I suppose, but still sad. cheers, frank, who hasn't had a roll of TriX

Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit

2008-09-25 Thread Toralf Lund
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Toralf Lund wrote: From where I'm standing, "Leica" looks like much less of a name in the MF market than in 35mm, comparatively speaking. Meaning that "Hasselblad" seems at least as big. Leica never made a medium format film camera. So th

Re: Mama's taking Kodachrome away

2008-09-25 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I always preferred Ilford HP-5 but I'll miss Tri-X when it goes. > I won't miss Kodachrome. I won't miss Kodachrome personally (I shot Agfa slide film when I was a teenager - the last time I shot much colour), but I'll m

Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit

2008-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Not really a Leica camera in the hand-held tradition, and no relation whatever to the S2. I remember seeing that once upon a time ... it is a technical camera. The gods only know whether they sold more than a dozen of them. G On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Derby Chang wrote: Not true. Leica

Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit

2008-09-25 Thread Derby Chang
Somehow, I just knew you would quibble about it. OK, you are right D Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Not really a Leica camera in the hand-held tradition, and no relation whatever to the S2. I remember seeing that once upon a time ... it is a technical camera. The gods only know whether they sold mo

Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit

2008-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 25, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Toralf Lund wrote: Digital cameras are not really "medium format" cameras, however, The term "medium format" is quite arbitrary in any case, isn't it? I believe the distinction between medium and small format has been kept at least to a certain degree in terms of

Re: Mama's taking Kodachrome away

2008-09-25 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: I won't miss Kodachrome personally ... but I'll miss the ~idea~ of Kodachrome. Ooh. Quotes list! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follo

Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit

2008-09-25 Thread Thibouille
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do think it would be nice if Hoya/Pentax would get their collective arse > moving on that front with the 645D. I'm sure they have business reasons for > the delays to deal with, but there are a lot of Pentax MF users

RE: New grip for K10D K20D body

2008-09-25 Thread John Celio
It's not an indentation, but rather an extension outward of the grip below the IR sensor. It's done for people with big hands who need a deeper grip. The stock K10/20D grip is absolutely perfect for me, but I have average-dude hands, and I can imagine people with bigger hands wishing for a deeper

Re: Mama's taking Kodachrome away

2008-09-25 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > frank theriault wrote: > >> I won't miss Kodachrome personally ... but I'll miss the >> ~idea~ of Kodachrome. > > Ooh. Quotes list! So, Paul Simon owes his carrer to Kodak.:-) Davem who still has 4 rolls of Tri x in 120 f

Re: OT: Two more applicants for a Darwin

2008-09-25 Thread Cotty
On 26/9/08, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed: >English cops are still using film cameras? I watched the 1 hour long doc tonight featuring this excerpt - extended in the prog - where do you get the film camera reference from? -- Cheers, Cot

Re: way OT - school system shenanigans in Pittsburgh

2008-09-25 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > My experience is there is two different 'Left's'. One is >> the honestly >> > Socialist/Marxist types who have very solid grounded >> reasons for their >> > belief. The other are folk marxists operating as 'Liberals' and >> >

Re: OT: Two more applicants for a Darwin

2008-09-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/9/08, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > >On 26/9/08, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>English cops are still using film cameras? > >I watched the 1 hour long doc tonight featuring this excerpt - extended >in the prog - where do yo

Re: PESO - oats

2008-09-25 Thread David J Brooks
I think so. Its sutle, nice colour and good contrast from background. Dave On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:43 AM, AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Playing with fill-flash... > What say you? > > In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html > Direct to (larger) image: > http://1.bp.bl

Re: PESO - Specific Prohibition

2008-09-25 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:58 AM, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/specific-prohibition.html > > Cats in the neighbourhood figured this gave them carte blanche... Thats what cats do. Dave > > cheers, > frank > > ;-) > > -- > "Sharpness is a bo

Re: PESO - Ernesto's Handiwork

2008-09-25 Thread David J Brooks
I like the cables mixed it to this Frank. Good conversion. Just to add my green ness to the thread, since i now walk to work, well the 300M to the bus, the truck has sat in the driveway all week. I try.:-) Dave On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:54 PM, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I kno

Re: Some fall with D-range 200%

2008-09-25 Thread David J Brooks
Have to agree with Bob here, Dave On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The first shot is very nice indeed - lovely tonal range. The others > are bit gaudy for my taste, but quite nice all the same. > Bob > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [m

Re: Some fall with D-range 200%

2008-09-25 Thread Ken Waller
What Bob said. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Some fall with D-range 200% The first shot is very nice indeed - lovely tonal range. The others are bit gaudy for my taste, but quite nice all the same. B

Re: New grip for K10D K20D body

2008-09-25 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 25, 2008, at 17:41, John Celio wrote: It's not an indentation, but rather an extension outward of the grip below the IR sensor. It's done for people with big hands who need a deeper grip. The stock K10/20D grip is absolutely perfect for me, but I have average-dude hands, and I can im

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