Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Derby Chang
Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: Hello! I want to buy a PS camera with a viewfinder. Because of the viewfinder detail, I narrowed my options to the Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 - an external viewfinder is available for both. Is there any real difference between these two cameras? TIA

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Peter McIntosh
2009/3/19 Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au Check out the review on LL http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/lx3.shtml There is a comparison at the end. Bugger...!  I've been quite keen on getting a LX3; this confirms my thoughts on it.  Now, what can I sell...? Regards, Peter

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread David Savage
I want a G10. That's a sweet PS On 19/03/2009, Peter McIntosh peter...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/19 Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au Check out the review on LL http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/lx3.shtml There is a comparison at the end. Bugger...!  I've been quite keen on

RE: PESO - Reduce Speed

2009-03-19 Thread Rick Womer
HAR! --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: It's not derelict, it's differently flotational. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow

OT: Down in one - Jonah the cameraman

2009-03-19 Thread Bob W
A great piece of film here, about a humpback whale eating a shoal of fish. Note that earlier in the piece the cameraman appears to be right in among the shoal - did he get away before the whale turned up? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7940396.stm Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: PESO - Reduce Speed

2009-03-19 Thread Bob W
There are a remarkable number of derelict boats on the waterways of the UK. I don't think this one could reduce its speed any more if it wanted to: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8770491size=lg Rick === Is this the British equivalent of a redneck hideaway?

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Peter McIntosh
2009/3/19 David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com: I want a G10. That's a sweet PS H... After reading the reviews of the G10 on LL, the decision has become much harder to make... Regards, Peter in western Sydney -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-19 Thread mike wilson
Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote: eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Got me curious, so googled. Dogs probably don't see red and green anyway, just shades of yellow and blue (and black and white). So the green (and rainbow) dog, may not KNOW he's colorful. On the Internet, no

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:50 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: I've used both, but I like the knobs button interface of the G10. Very easy to change exposure focus manually. It's also built like a brick thunderbox. Also the Leica/Panny RAW format is proprietary (or it was the last

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta
Hello! This is s an Off Topic question... For not mentioning this on the subject of my message I apologize. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 04:12, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: And this was asked on a Pentax List ! Why not? I own and use a Spotmatic, a ME Super, a P30t, a Z-20, a MZ-5, (my

Re: Peso's Da Classic scoop and spring stones

2009-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Hope the building does get moved and saved. Enjoyed the images. Jack Thanks Jack. I hope so to, but I';ll know on the 31st, as that's D day for the free building. Whitchurch-Stouffville has a Heritage committee, but

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread David Savage
I've used both, but I like the knobs button interface of the G10. Very easy to change exposure focus manually. It's also built like a brick thunderbox. Also the Leica/Panny RAW format is proprietary (or it was the last time I checked. You have to use the supplied RAW converter. This may have

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta
I didn't find this comparison while trying to find out the differences between the two cameras. Thank you for the link! On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 06:31, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: (...) Hi, Check out the review on LL http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/lx3.shtml

Re: OT: Down in one - Jonah the cameraman

2009-03-19 Thread mike wilson
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: A great piece of film here, about a humpback whale eating a shoal of fish. Note that earlier in the piece the cameraman appears to be right in among the shoal - did he get away before the whale turned up?

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-19 Thread mike wilson
William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green the dog obviously has no say, so to impose something like that on it just isn't fair, IMHO. So we should just do what our pets wants to do

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta
I was able to experiment with a G10 and a D-Lux 4 at the local Fnac store. I prefer the smaller size of the D-Lux 4, though I hate its price :-) On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 07:53, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: I want a G10. That's a sweet PS (...) -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta nmsba...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! This is s an Off Topic question...  For not mentioning this on the subject of my message I apologize. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 04:12, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: And this was asked on a

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta nmsba...@gmail.com wrote: I therefore believe that I can be qualified as a Pentax user. I don't think you have anything to apologize for. Anyone who has a problem with Pentaxians discussing this camera can take it up with Ned

Re: OT: Down in one - Jonah the cameraman

2009-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
Maybe some one reefed him away. Dave On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: A great piece of film here, about a humpback whale eating a shoal of fish. Note that earlier in the piece the cameraman appears to be right in among the shoal - did he get away before the

Re: PESO: Selling the green for the green

2009-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
Horses There, now i feel better.:-) Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread William Robb
Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: Hello! I want to buy a PS camera with a viewfinder. Because of the viewfinder detail, I narrowed my options to the Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 - an external viewfinder is available for both. Is there any real difference between these two cameras?

Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-19 Thread John Mullan
John, Take a long hard look at your costs including business licenses, taxes, materials, equipment, advertising and insurance. How much is your time worth? You will be spending more time after the event than you imagine. Exposures of a bride in all white are harder to get right when you're a

Peso Headstone

2009-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
Well the sun is out, the grass is getting greener, so that means one thing. The G3 is in use. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8790931 Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Bruce Walker
William Robb wrote: I think the Leica comes highly recommended by the President of Pentax Imaging. Speck/Mark! -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow

Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-19 Thread William Robb
Repost from April 1, 2001. Perhaps it bears repeating. Don't be a cheap whore, you won't get respected for it, and when you want to graduate to being a high class whore, no one will be willing to pay you for it. I have seen it happen before in my under populated part of the world. People will

Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
The other thing to do is find out what competitors near you are charging. You will find a wide range from low to high, but that will give you a better idea what you CAN charge. Lately with this economy, I have seen myself and many others with bookings down and people not willing to spend as

PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread frank theriault
I prefer just going to the damned shelf to see if the book's there. Or asking a salesperson - oops, I mean sales associate... http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/modern-convenience.html Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri

Re: Peso Headstone

2009-03-19 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:42 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Well the sun is out, the grass is getting greener, so that means one thing. The G3 is in use. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8790931 Dave I know it's IR (or the faux-digital version of IR), but I keep

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta
(...) I doubt Ken was serious. We ask non Pentax questions all the time. I hope he isn't... Adam and I do the Nikon ones, and Mr bird shooter does the Canon stuff. Cotty and Bob are in charge of Pythonism's. Pythonism?!? I'm lost! -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem

Re: Peso - help

2009-03-19 Thread Bruce Walker
ann sanfedele wrote: http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/494163704_sqDtm/Medium back to photography Pentax 28mm smc M on Canon rebel I find that a most curious image which makes it very appealing. I love the deep blues and the texture. The childishly scrawled word throws me

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta
I don't think you have anything to apologize for.  Anyone who has a problem with Pentaxians discussing this camera can take it up with Ned Bunnell: http://nedbunnell.blogspot.com/2009/01/after-42-yrs-new-leica-added-to-my.html Nice :-) I don't usually follow blogs, but I think I'll star

Re: Peso - help

2009-03-19 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:22 PM, ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/494163704_sqDtm/Medium back to photography Pentax 28mm smc M on Canon rebel The urgency of it makes the shot. That and the textures. And the colours. I also love your

Re: PESO - Outside the Cheese Shop

2009-03-19 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:36 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, somebody has to do it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3KBuQHHKx0 And I'm glad it was you! ;-) Thanks John, and thanks to everyone else who commented and told us about dog collars and training 110 pound

Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-19 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: $500 is about right for a new wedding photographer supplying only files on DVD. You can find a wide range of wedding contracts on line. Just do an advanced search on Google. That's about what I charged for my one

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I find a quite interesting phenomenon ... I know many who have purchased the G9/G10 cameras. After an initial period of delight with them, they find they stop using them, aren't getting such good results, etc etc. The G10's controls are definitely nice, if you don't get the picture quality

Re: norcal pdml 2009 - sacramento

2009-03-19 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:46 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: I like gear goonery Do you mean the photo or do you like actual gear goonery? ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:56 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Repost from April 1, 2001. Perhaps it bears repeating. Don't be a cheap whore, you won't get respected for it, and when you want to graduate to being a high class whore, no one will be willing to pay you for it. If the

Re: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
I can never find what i want using those things. I ask.:-0 Dave On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:00 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I prefer just going to the damned shelf to see if the book's there. Or asking a salesperson - oops, I mean sales associate...

Re: Peso Headstone

2009-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Frank. Its not quite the best IR weather or conditions, but its sunny, no snow, so its time to start. LOL Did this in Mac's Preview editor. Dave On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:08 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:42 AM, David J Brooks

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Pasvorn Boonmark
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: And this was asked on a Pentax List ! Yes, because we are knowledgeable bunch. :) Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta nmsba...@gmail.com

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta nmsba...@gmail.com wrote: (...) I doubt Ken was serious. We ask non Pentax questions all the time. I hope he isn't... Adam and I do the Nikon ones, and Mr bird shooter does the Canon stuff. Cotty and Bob are in charge of

OT?? Elements 7 and Vista

2009-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
Any one using this combo. One of the horse show organizers i deal with bought elements 7 and has problems with it. Organizer works but when she goes to the editor, it says PS cannot be found and freezes up,. ?? Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta nmsba...@gmail.com wrote: (...) I doubt Ken was serious. We ask non Pentax questions all the time. I hope he isn't... Even if he was serious, who cares? It's just Ken after all... ;-) Adam and I do the Nikon ones, and Mr bird

Re: Two(ish)[and a half]{sorta} random(not really) observations

2009-03-19 Thread Luiz Felipe
1) I'm glad I'm not the olny one using VCRs in the world - my Phillips is immune to flashes :-) 2) It's not just the SLR, a humungous photo bag helps too, at the expense of your back. 2a) Being a film critter so far, can't comment on digital prints, but there is a program called Genuine

Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: Wedding photography, starting price? On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:56 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Repost from April 1, 2001. Perhaps it bears repeating. Don't be a cheap whore, you won't get respected for it, and when

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 19, 2009, at 9:10, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: (...) I doubt Ken was serious. We ask non Pentax questions all the time. I hope he isn't... Adam and I do the Nikon ones, and Mr bird shooter does the Canon stuff. Cotty and Bob are in charge of Pythonism's. Pythonism?!? I'm

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread mike wilson
frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta nmsba...@gmail.com wrote: (...) I doubt Ken was serious. We ask non Pentax questions all the time. I hope he isn't... Even if he was serious, who cares? It's just

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:05 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: No, we don't. Yes we do. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread Jack Davis
Point well taken. Did ya find it? Jack --- On Thu, 3/19/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Modern Convenience? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 7:00 AM I prefer just

Re: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 19, 2009, at 7:00 AM, frank theriault wrote: I prefer just going to the damned shelf to see if the book's there. Or asking a salesperson - oops, I mean sales associate... http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/modern-convenience.html In most of the big book shops around here,

Re: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote: In most of the big book shops around here, finding where in hell they put a particular class of titles is incredibly time consuming. If I go to the information desk and wait for a salesdroid to come by and provide

Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-19 Thread Luiz Felipe
Do a local check, get their prices and (if possible) samples of their work. Starting with a low price in the wedding business is not the way, IMHO - unless people in your area marry more times. Or you're looking for a low income client. Plenty of sound advice already, insurance is a good

Re: Peso's Da Classic scoop and spring stones

2009-03-19 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:43 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8784275 I like this one. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8784292 These general store/country diners seem to be closing down all over the place. Too bad. Hope this one

Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:32 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: Wedding photography, starting price? On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:56 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Repost from April 1, 2001. Perhaps it bears

Re: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/19/2009 7:51:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: prefer just going to the damned shelf to see if the book's there. Or asking a salesperson - oops, I mean sales associate... http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/modern-convenience.html

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:08 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:05 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: No, we don't. Yes we do. Are you arguing in your spare time.? Dave cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri

Re: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: I prefer just going to the damned shelf to see if the book's there. Or asking a salesperson - oops, I mean sales associate... http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/modern-convenience.html Comments always welcome. Your salespeople/associates know where stuff is???

Re: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote: frank theriault wrote: I prefer just going to the damned shelf to see if the book's there. Or asking a salesperson - oops, I mean sales associate... http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/modern-convenience.html

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Ken Waller
Over the years it was the custom to put OT in the subject line if the subject was not related to Pentax. It lets those not interested to simply delete move on. Not that it is being done 100%. BTW, I now assume you're looking for a camera with an optical viewfinder as opposed to electronic.

Re: Peso Headstone

2009-03-19 Thread Ken Waller
To me Dave, this image needs far less DOF, the background is a major distraction for me. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Peso Headstone Well the sun is out, the grass is getting greener, so that

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Pasvorn Boonmark pasv...@boonmark.net Subject: Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: And this was asked on a Pentax List ! Yes, because we

Re: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread Ken Waller
My thoughts entirely, Godfrey. With the size of the chain bookstores, you could spend a lot of time looking for a particular book. Now if you're browsing, that's fine. When I go to a bookstore I already know what I want just want to get it get out. It would be different if they all adhered to

Re: OT?? Elements 7 and Vista

2009-03-19 Thread AlunFoto
I have PSE 6 on a laptop right now. Assuming that editors are configured the same way in v7 as in v6, I have two suggestions: One is that she doesn't have PS installed, and have configured elements to always use an external editor. The menu option in PSE6 is EditPreferencesEditing... where you

Re: Peso - help

2009-03-19 Thread ann sanfedele
frank theriault wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:22 PM, ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/494163704_sqDtm/Medium back to photography Pentax 28mm smc M on Canon rebel The urgency of it makes the shot. That and the textures.

Re: Peso - help

2009-03-19 Thread ann sanfedele
Bruce Walker wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/494163704_sqDtm/Medium back to photography Pentax 28mm smc M on Canon rebel I find that a most curious image which makes it very appealing. I love the deep blues and the texture. The

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 18:07, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Over the years it was the custom to put OT in the subject line if the subject was not related to Pentax. It lets those not interested to simply delete move on. Not that it is being done 100%. Yes, I should have put OT in

Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill, I agree completely. A local friend has a thriving wedding business, but it was 'in the tank' late last year as bookings dried up for 3 months. He charged a premium price and had 8 photogs working for him. He did serious soul searching, tripled his advertising, and cut back to 5 photogs. (And

Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-19 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: This guy is a good photographer ... Sadly, he's a Canon shooter... Your story doesn't make any sense. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Matthew, Sorry, I'm mentally handicapped today. The contractor showed up at 7:30 AM with a crew of 6-10. They are removing and re-shingling my roof. It's gotten really bad now as they are nailing the new stuff on, maching gun fashion. :-( If you think it's bad when the neighbor does it, or

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Ken Waller
To me it was analogous to asking the Nikon or Canon list a question about the K20D ! No offense intended. And yes it's just Ken...; -{ Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Leica D-Lux 4

Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-19 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Matthew, Sorry, I'm mentally handicapped today. I was just kidding with you, because you gave a compliment to a Canon shooter. :-) Best of luck with your contractors. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-19 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Matthew, Sorry, I'm mentally handicapped today. The contractor showed up at 7:30 AM with a crew of 6-10. They are removing and re-shingling my roof. It's gotten really bad now as they are nailing the new stuff on,

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: snip And yes it's just Ken...    ; -{ ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Wedding photography, starting price?

2009-03-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Matthew Frank, Thanks for the clarification. And I was gonna do taxes today... Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:03 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Matthew, Sorry, I'm mentally handicapped

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta nmsba...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 18:07, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Over the years it was the custom to put OT in

Re: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I go to the big bookstores to browse most of the time. Also to see what's new on the shelves, both in books and in periodicals. Sadly, they've learned the impulse purchase way now and often sprinkle new titles all over the place so you can't go to any familiar location and find the new

Re: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:48 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote: In most of the big book shops around here, finding where in hell they put a particular class of titles is incredibly time consuming. If I

Re: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 19, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Adam Maas wrote: ... Pricing is not set by the bookstores but rather by publishers ... That's not correct, at least not today. Maybe it was in the past. Nowadays, the bookstore chains collaborate with the volume distributors on pricing, they set the terms for

Re: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote: On Mar 19, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Adam Maas wrote: ... Pricing is not set by the bookstores but rather by publishers ... That's not correct, at least not today. Maybe it was in the past. Nowadays, the bookstore chains

RE: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread Bob W
I prefer just going to the damned shelf to see if the book's there. Or asking a salesperson - oops, I mean sales associate... http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/modern-convenience.html Comments always welcome. Your salespeople/associates know where stuff is??? Wow, I must

RE: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread Bob W
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/modern-convenience.html In most of the big book shops around here, finding where in hell they put a particular class of titles is incredibly time consuming. That's what the great big sign labelled Store Directory is for. [...] -- PDML

RE: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Bob W
(...) I doubt Ken was serious. We ask non Pentax questions all the time. I hope he isn't... Adam and I do the Nikon ones, and Mr bird shooter does the Canon stuff. Cotty and Bob are in charge of Pythonism's. Pythonism?!? I'm lost! -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil

Re: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 19, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Bob W wrote: In most of the big book shops around here, finding where in hell they put a particular class of titles is incredibly time consuming. That's what the great big sign labelled Store Directory is for. The Store Directory map is only useful once

East Side, Vancouver

2009-03-19 Thread Bob W
According to a PIVOT legal society poll, Vancouver's Downtown East Side has the poorest postal code in all of Canada. http://www.foto8.com/home/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=812Item id=136 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: East Side, Vancouver

2009-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
Even out here in the East part of Canada, Vancouver comes on the news a lot, and not because of the Oylimbic's. This has been known for years, but what do you expect from a land filled with old hippies, free needles make things go away, not. Dave On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Bob W

Re: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: You mean the predatory practice of stocking a lot of books? Pricing is not set by the bookstores but rather by publishers so predatory pricing isn't an issue. Most of the small shops that have gone under went under because they

Re: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 19, 2009, at 15:17, frank theriault wrote: Do you remember the store right across the street from Britnell's? It was called Chapters. It was a family owned new and used book shop. It had been called Chapters at least 10 years ~prior~ to the Chapters megastore chain coming into

Re: East Side, Vancouver

2009-03-19 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: According to a PIVOT legal society poll, Vancouver's Downtown East Side has the poorest postal code in all of Canada. http://www.foto8.com/home/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=812Item id=136 Very jarring

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:15 -0400, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:08 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:05 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: No, we don't. Yes we do. Are you arguing in

Re: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:17 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: You mean the predatory practice of stocking a lot of books? Pricing is not set by the bookstores but rather by publishers so predatory pricing isn't

Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3

2009-03-19 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:15 -0400, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:08 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:05 PM, mike wilson

Re: PESO - Modern Convenience?

2009-03-19 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: snip That Chapter's location predated the merger. It was closed down because it was around the corner from the flagship Indigo location at Bay Bloor. In fact it had been opened in the first place to compete with the Indigo

PESO: Whitlock Cabin

2009-03-19 Thread Jack Davis
Wife and I took a country drive this PM looking for photo targets of opportunity. This cabin is off of hwy 70 (for the area folks) just as one begins the climb up and through the Feather River Canyon. Beautiful, steep, winding, 'thrilling' drive..depending upon the road/weather conditions.

Foto Nova 19 :: Friday, March 20, 5:30-8:00 pm - GDP

2009-03-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hallo y'all, Thank you to everyone who has already been to see the Foto Nova 19 exhibit! The Foto Nova 19 opening reception was so crowded that several friends complained they couldn't get to see all the work on display. Others simply couldn't make it due to scheduling conflicts. So ...

Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin

2009-03-19 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Wife and I took a country drive this PM looking for photo targets of opportunity. This cabin is off of hwy 70 (for the area folks) just as one begins the climb up and through the Feather River Canyon. Beautiful, steep,

Re: PESO - Outside the Cheese Shop

2009-03-19 Thread Derby Chang
frank theriault wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:36 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, somebody has to do it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3KBuQHHKx0 And I'm glad it was you! ;-) I could really do with some Venezuelan Beaver cheese right about now --

OT - Lisa Wiltse

2009-03-19 Thread Derby Chang
Feeding the CBA on ebay the other night (a Voigt R2A), I checked out the website of the seller, and was pleasantly surprised. She was a staff photog for the Sydney Morning Herald, but now freelances. http://www.lisawiltse.com/ D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc

PESO: Spring

2009-03-19 Thread Jack Davis
A little further up Hwy 70 toward the Feather River Canyon. Seems a so-so definitive spring image..at least for these parts. Jack All comments welcomed. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=392 K10, DA 16~45 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin

2009-03-19 Thread Jack Davis
Sounds like a TV series, Frank. ?:) Appreciated comments. Jack --- On Thu, 3/19/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Whitlock Cabin To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009,

RE: PESO: Spring

2009-03-19 Thread Bob W
A little further up Hwy 70 toward the Feather River Canyon. Seems a so-so definitive spring image..at least for these parts. Jack All comments welcomed. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=392 K10, DA 16~45 Very good, and a welcome sight! Spring is in the air

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