Re: OT Next time bring your friends

2010-11-18 Thread P. J. Alling
Being stupidly fearless isn't being brave On 11/18/2010 6:19 PM, David J Brooks wrote: I think Mike Johnson should get this link http://en.video.canoe.tv/video/comedy/funny-animals/88690753001/brave-cat-vs-alligators/677500417001 Dave -- "His lack of education is more than compensated

Re: Filter experiment

2010-11-18 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 18, 2010, at 6:49 PM, Miserere wrote: > On 18 November 2010 20:56, Larry Colen wrote: >> Last night I tried a more rigorous test of photographing with and without a >> cokin blue filter on my camera. I also tried with and without using custom >> white balance in the camera. The follow

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2010-11-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: > I'll be the first to admit that the digital color stuff still gives me a hard > time. I'm not resistant when it comes to modern digital technology (and > converted from the typewriter to the word processor very quickly), but all of > the p

Re: The Platinum Print Guy

2010-11-18 Thread mike wilson
Miserere wrote: On 17 November 2010 21:51, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: This is the guy who taught the workshop at the Heorge Eastman House That would be "George" Eastmen. Take three... Little has been spoken of arch

Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot

2010-11-18 Thread mike wilson
John Francis wrote: I've got most of the Floyd albums on 12" vinyl (including one bootleg purchased from Virgin Records back when they were a hole-in-the-wall record store on a Liverpool back street) I always wondered who that guy was, slumped and mumbling in one of the listening booths, every

Re: Sydney PDML?

2010-11-18 Thread Peter Loveday
David Mann wrote: I'm too poor to look at a K-5. How much can you afford? I might let you look at mine, for the right price :) - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directl

Re: Sydney PDML?

2010-11-18 Thread mike wilson
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Re: yet another peso

2010-11-18 Thread Sasha Sobol
Thanks for all the comments, --S On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:54 -0800, "Sasha Sobol" wrote: >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5163561062/lightbox >> >> Nevada Museum of Art (very cool building, mostly awful modern "art" >> inside). >> >> I w

Re: Thanks, and hold that thought . . .

2010-11-18 Thread Walter Gilbert
I'll keep you in my thoughts in the interim, Stan. I "somewhat" know what you're going through, so you have my very best wishes. -- Walt On 11/18/2010 8:32 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Thanks for the good wishes, on and off list. Surgery postponed for now, last minute family emergency and the sur

Re: PESO Chuck on bass

2010-11-18 Thread Miserere
He seems to be having fun, Larry. Good job capturing the joy.    —M.     \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com     http://EnticingTheLight.com     A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 18 November 2010 21:04, Larry Colen wrote: > One of my favorite shots from last night: > http://www

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2010-11-18 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
.Very true! I'd say it took me about a year to be completely .comfortable making B&W conversions that looked exactly like I wanted .them to. . .Colin, I like me some contrasty B&W, but there's nothing like an image .displaying the whole array of greys: M. When I look again @ my favorite portrai

Re: OT: Anyone here able to read/translate Chinese?

2010-11-18 Thread Sandy Harris
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:19 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: > Seems that "BaiJiu" has a storied history in China.  The description of this > beverage as smelling/tasting like 'a cross between rubbing alcohol and diesel > fuel' is not far off. That's a pretty good description of the cheap stuff, u

Re: Thanks, and hold that thought . . .

2010-11-18 Thread Stan Halpin
A common doctor's type joke: "Hey Mr.Patient - I have good news and bad news: Bad news is that you have cancer; good news is that you have prostate cancer." stan On Nov 18, 2010, at 9:02 PM, paul stenquist wrote: > All good thoughts hold for next week or whenever your surgery is rescheduled. >

Re: PESO today's mushroom picture

2010-11-18 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow, that's nice, Larry! I like it better than the original picture. Very nice. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:29 PM Subject: Re: PESO today's mushroom picture On Nov 17, 2010, at

Re: Thanks, and hold that thought . . .

2010-11-18 Thread paul stenquist
All good thoughts hold for next week or whenever your surgery is rescheduled. My neighbor just wen through it and was back to partying in a few days. My doc wants me to see a urologist because of my test numbers. All us old guys go through it. Piece of cake. Paul On Nov 18, 2010, at 9:32 PM, S

Re: Filter experiment

2010-11-18 Thread Miserere
On 18 November 2010 20:56, Larry Colen wrote: > Last night I tried a more rigorous test of photographing with and without a > cokin blue filter on my camera.  I also tried with and without using custom > white balance in the camera.  The following collection are the best few shots > of each of

Re: Thanks, and hold that thought . . .

2010-11-18 Thread Miserere
On 18 November 2010 21:32, Stan Halpin wrote: > Thanks for the good wishes, on and off list. Surgery postponed for now, last > minute family emergency and the surgeon headed home to Lebanon. So I am on > hold for a week or two . . . > > stan Stan, I don't mean to disrespect, but that sounded l

Thanks, and hold that thought . . .

2010-11-18 Thread Stan Halpin
Thanks for the good wishes, on and off list. Surgery postponed for now, last minute family emergency and the surgeon headed home to Lebanon. So I am on hold for a week or two . . . stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

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2010-11-18 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: > Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > >> When I look at the work on Pentax photo gallery, the B&w efforts >> seem to share a common fault: 3 tones -- near-black, near-white, zone 6. >> There just is not the tonal variance. > > I don't see less t

PESO Chuck on bass

2010-11-18 Thread Larry Colen
One of my favorite shots from last night: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5188714832/in/set-72157625421881730/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, ple

Filter experiment

2010-11-18 Thread Larry Colen
Last night I tried a more rigorous test of photographing with and without a cokin blue filter on my camera. I also tried with and without using custom white balance in the camera. The following collection are the best few shots of each of the permutations I tried: http://www.flickr.com/photos/

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2010-11-18 Thread Miserere
On 18 November 2010 15:03, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > I capture raw format and use Lightroom (and/or Photoshop) to render > B&W. Rendering B&W is not a "Saturday a.m. experiment" if you want to > be skilled at it. Very true! I'd say it took me about a year to be completely comfortable making B&W

Re: Hawaii, anyone

2010-11-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Dan On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Otis Wright wrote: > Always enjoyed Kapalua, but we always seemed to have a better time of it at > the Royal Hawaiian  on Waikiki. > > Enjoy. > > Otis Wright > > On 11/18/2010 5:51 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrot

Re: Hawaii, anyone

2010-11-18 Thread Otis Wright
Always enjoyed Kapalua, but we always seemed to have a better time of it at the Royal Hawaiian on Waikiki. Enjoy. Otis Wright On 11/18/2010 5:51 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I'll be there is January, but in Maui, not Honolulu (thank god). Dan On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Collin Bre

Re: PESO - November Clematis

2010-11-18 Thread paul stenquist
Thanks Ann. I had missed your e-mail, but I found it in my overloaded mailbox. My recipe for the hummus is -- buy it at Costco! It's Sabre brand, hummus with pine nuts. It's made in Astoria, Queens, so I suspect you can find it where you are. They have a web site -- www.sabre.com. It's the best

Re: OT Why did we not come up with these.

2010-11-18 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 05:11:14PM -0700, John Celio wrote: > > I've been meaning to get a line-drawing of my M3 put on a tee-shirt for > > quite a while. I've even made the line drawing, just haven't got around to > > putting it on a t-shirt yet. > > If you've got a good scan of the drawing, you

RE: OT Why did we not come up with these.

2010-11-18 Thread John Celio
> I've been meaning to get a line-drawing of my M3 put on a tee-shirt for > quite a while. I've even made the line drawing, just haven't got around to > putting it on a t-shirt yet. If you've got a good scan of the drawing, you can make shirts from that image on websites like CafePress.com and Red

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2010-11-18 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > When I look at the work on Pentax photo gallery, the B&w efforts > seem to share a common fault: 3 tones -- near-black, near-white, zone 6. > There just is not the tonal variance. I don't see less tonality in my digital B/W. I usually shoot in colour and then do the

Re: Possibly stupid question re: K-x ISO range

2010-11-18 Thread Walter Gilbert
I do ... or, did, actually. Thanks, Matthew! On 11/18/2010 5:59 PM, Matthew Montgomery wrote: On Nov 18, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Actually, when I went to change it, it appears I was right, according to the dialogue on the menu screen. Do you have d-range highlight corr

Re: Possibly stupid question re: K-x ISO range

2010-11-18 Thread Matthew Montgomery
On Nov 18, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: > Actually, when I went to change it, it appears I was right, according to > the dialogue on the menu screen. Do you have d-range highlight correction on? That will sacrifice the lowest ISO setting. > > On: "Enables ISO sensitivity from 10

Re: Possibly stupid question re: K-x ISO range

2010-11-18 Thread Walter Gilbert
Actually, when I went to change it, it appears I was right, according to the dialogue on the menu screen. On: "Enables ISO sensitivity from 100 to 12800" Off: "ISO sensitivity can be set from 200 to 6400" Curious, that. On 11/18/2010 5:40 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Ah! I see. I thought

RE: OT Why did we not come up with these.

2010-11-18 Thread Bob W
I've been meaning to get a line-drawing of my M3 put on a tee-shirt for quite a while. I've even made the line drawing, just haven't got around to putting it on a t-shirt yet. B > > http://www.petapixel.com/2009/11/13/21-awesome-t-shirts-for- > photographers/ > > There is a few here i might get

Re: Possibly stupid question re: K-x ISO range

2010-11-18 Thread Walter Gilbert
Ah! I see. I thought by "expanded" it meant expanding the range from 200-6400 to 100-12800. In that case, I'll just turn off the expanded sensitivity, since I've yet to encounter an instance where its use was particularly desirable. Thanks! -- Walt On 11/18/2010 5:33 PM, John Francis w

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2010-11-18 Thread Jeffery Smith
I'll be the first to admit that the digital color stuff still gives me a hard time. I'm not resistant when it comes to modern digital technology (and converted from the typewriter to the word processor very quickly), but all of the parameters in digital photography can be a bit overwhelming afte

RE: OT I;m such a friggin idiot

2010-11-18 Thread Bob W
> > I was 16 or so when the album was released, although I'd seen them > > play it live before then. I often used to wonder if I'd already missed > > the starting gun. Still do, and I'm 53 now. These spikes are starting > > to get a bit uncomfortable. > > I first listened to that album only a coup

Re: OT: Anyone here able to read/translate Chinese?

2010-11-18 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 18 November 2010 21:19, Charles Robinson wrote: > My brother has been doing some research on these bottles we toasted from when > we were in China this May. > > Seems that "BaiJiu" has a storied history in China. The description of this > beverage as smelling/tasting like 'a cross between ru

Re: Possibly stupid question re: K-x ISO range

2010-11-18 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 04:39:29PM -0600, Walter Gilbert wrote: > HI all, > > I've been meaning to ask this for some time now, but just keep > forgetting to. Anyway, here goes: From day one of ownership, I've had > the expanded sensitivity enabled on my K-x. I can force it manually all > t

RE: OT I;m such a friggin idiot

2010-11-18 Thread Bob W
[...] > > Even so, "Wish you were here" has long been my favorite PInk Floyd Album, > and possibly my favorite album. The Wall tells a great story, but there is > almost an album's worth of great songs, and a little over an album's worth of > good songs. I was a massive fan of theirs when I was a

Re: PESO - November Clematis

2010-11-18 Thread Ann Sanfedele
paul stenquist wrote: Went out in the yard with the K-5 and DA*60-250 to take the new firmware for a spin. Saw this bloom on a Clematis vine, the leaves of which had already been damaged by a couple of hard frosts. A nasty wind was blowing it around, so I pumped up the ISO and shutter speed.

OT Next time bring your friends

2010-11-18 Thread David J Brooks
I think Mike Johnson should get this link http://en.video.canoe.tv/video/comedy/funny-animals/88690753001/brave-cat-vs-alligators/677500417001 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-

Re: PESO: They Eyes of a Cormorant

2010-11-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Many years ago I watched Japanese fishing with cormorants. They place a band around the bird's neck, so it cannot swallow a larger fish. The bird is also on a leash, and when it dives and catches a fish, it is brought back to the boat and made to disgorge its catch. The birds did not appear to b

OT Why did we not come up with these.

2010-11-18 Thread David J Brooks
http://www.petapixel.com/2009/11/13/21-awesome-t-shirts-for-photographers/ There is a few here i might get. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net htt

PESO: Pigeon Point Light

2010-11-18 Thread Jack Davis
Was reworking some old files and decided to get a new scan of this northern California light. Shot, obviously, on a Blue Bird day sometime in the early 80's(?) Just offered it to PPG. Jack Comments, of course, most welcome. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=551 I think: ME

Re: Hawaii, anyone

2010-11-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I'll be there is January, but in Maui, not Honolulu (thank god). Dan On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/pho/2029424389.html > > Sincerely, > > Collin Brendemuehl > http://kerygmainstitute.org > > "He is no fool who gives what he cannot

Re: Possibly stupid question re: K-x ISO range

2010-11-18 Thread Walter Gilbert
I meant "not *Sensitivity Priority* or any other". On 11/18/2010 4:39 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: HI all, I've been meaning to ask this for some time now, but just keep forgetting to. Anyway, here goes: From day one of ownership, I've had the expanded sensitivity enabled on my K-x. I can

Possibly stupid question re: K-x ISO range

2010-11-18 Thread Walter Gilbert
HI all, I've been meaning to ask this for some time now, but just keep forgetting to. Anyway, here goes: From day one of ownership, I've had the expanded sensitivity enabled on my K-x. I can force it manually all the way up to the 12800 top-end limit, but have yet to figure out a way to ge

Re: PESO - November Clematis

2010-11-18 Thread David J Brooks
Nicely composed, and detail. 1600 eh, Dave On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:07 PM, paul stenquist wrote: > Went out in the yard with the K-5 and DA*60-250 to take the new firmware for > a spin. Saw this bloom on a Clematis vine, the leaves of which had already > been damaged by a couple of hard fros

Re: PESO today's mushroom picture

2010-11-18 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 17, 2010, at 5:58 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: > I like your mushroom picture very much, Larry. Always fun to get distracted > with the camera. You know, I actually see two pictures in one here. It > would be interesting to see a shot of the mushrooms on the left only, and a > picture

Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...

2010-11-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/11/10, CheekyGeek, discombobulated, unleashed: >Speaking of Barbie, this gives me a good excuse to point out one of >the more BIZARRE Barbie Dolls I have seen yet. >Frankly, I think it is for the birds. >http://tinyurl.com/27x87kh great laugh ta! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...

2010-11-18 Thread Miserere
On 18 November 2010 04:33, eckinator wrote: > ... now its time to see barbie roll better... =) > I just registered www.barbierollbetter.com and hope to turn it into a > photo advice page both humorous and helpful. Let me know if you want > wour own page linked and also if you want to contribute so

Re: PESO - November Clematis

2010-11-18 Thread Jack Davis
Nice, Paul. Very much like the overall color and tone. Jack --- On Thu, 11/18/10, paul stenquist wrote: > From: paul stenquist > Subject: PESO - November Clematis > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 1:07 PM > Went out in the yard with the K-5 and > DA*60-250

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2010-11-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: > Photoshop allows a large measure of filter "effects" in converting color to > B&W, using slider tools that show the preview of the filter's effects. "Filter effects" isn't the right expression, nor is "converting color to B&W" when you're

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2010-11-18 Thread Adam Maas
No, when doing B&W conversion from colour I handle the filtration in post (Note I've been known to do this with both colour film and digital. Provia 100F in particular makes just lovely B&W images). B&W images online tend to be overly contrasty as that grabs attention (and I say that as someone wh

Re: MBOI Tamron PKA2

2010-11-18 Thread Adam Maas
Damn, didn't realize they were so expensive. Might have to part with mine since I'm not really using it anymore. -Adam On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:42 PM, eckinator wrote: > someone here wants one, IIRC Larry or Darren - there is one in the > German bay: 200545075350 but please note that it may go

Re: PESO - November Clematis

2010-11-18 Thread eckinator
I want one. Everything I read about the K-5 makes me think perhaps I can stop eyeing a Nikon after all... Cheers Ecke 2010/11/18 paul stenquist : > Thanks Ecke. And you're right, my camera does take good pictures. > Seriously, I'm liking high ISO capability more than I thought I would. It > gives

Re: PESO - November Clematis

2010-11-18 Thread paul stenquist
Thanks Ecke. And you're right, my camera does take good pictures. Seriously, I'm liking high ISO capability more than I thought I would. It gives me the luxury of a range cushion. With the K7, I would have probably shot this at ISO 400, f4, 1/250th. Since the lens was at 250 mm, it would have bee

OT: Anyone here able to read/translate Chinese?

2010-11-18 Thread Charles Robinson
My brother has been doing some research on these bottles we toasted from when we were in China this May. Seems that "BaiJiu" has a storied history in China. The description of this beverage as smelling/tasting like 'a cross between rubbing alcohol and diesel fuel' is not far off. Reading up o

Re: PESO - November Clematis

2010-11-18 Thread eckinator
pretty impressive for ISO1600. your camera takes really good pictures =P thanks for sharing Ecke 2010/11/18 paul stenquist : > Went out in the yard with the K-5 and DA*60-250 to take the new firmware for > a spin. Saw this bloom on a Clematis vine, the leaves of which had already > been damaged

PESO - November Clematis

2010-11-18 Thread paul stenquist
Went out in the yard with the K-5 and DA*60-250 to take the new firmware for a spin. Saw this bloom on a Clematis vine, the leaves of which had already been damaged by a couple of hard frosts. A nasty wind was blowing it around, so I pumped up the ISO and shutter speed. f5.6 @ 1/500th, ISO 1600.

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2010-11-18 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
>Paul "the heretic" Stenquist printed BW in the darkroom for thirty years. >And yes, I've done split printing with different contrast filters. >I've also used a wide variety of papers and chemicals, along with >contrast control development of the film. No darkroom techniques can match >the resu

MBOI Tamron PKA2

2010-11-18 Thread eckinator
someone here wants one, IIRC Larry or Darren - there is one in the German bay: 200545075350 but please note that it may go high, last one here sold for over € 62 =~US$100... =[ Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Hawaii, anyone

2010-11-18 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/pho/2029424389.html Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose" -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pd

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2010-11-18 Thread paul stenquist
On Nov 18, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > Paul "the heretic" Stenquist wrote: > >> That's probably the result of sloppy conversions. I don't employ filters, >> but >I convert using the ACR BW function, which allows you to control the >> gray >level of each color independently. I

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2010-11-18 Thread CheekyGeek
I'm in the process of setting up an "old school" B&W darkroom just because I miss the process/smells/etc. The only film I really plan on shooting from this point forward will be B&W that I develop myself. I'm also interested in exploring alternative processes in the monochrome world. However, if y

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2010-11-18 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Some good information. Thanks all. But do you ever feel like rendering b&w is like rendering lard? It takes a long time and it's messy but good pie crust and pastry are better that way. I feel the same way about the chemical darkroom and only wish days were longer. There is so much I want to do

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2010-11-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >Rendering B&W is not a "Saturday a.m. experiment" if you want to >be skilled at it. Boy, *that's* the truth! Especially if you're skilled at B&W darkroom printing: There's a whole new set of techniques to learn and old ones to unlearn. The latter is harder :) -- PDML P

Re: Phonecamera

2010-11-18 Thread eckinator
iEditor rears its ugly head... 2010/11/18 P. J. Alling : > Specially designed texting devices, that just barely resemble a phone. > > On 11/18/2010 1:50 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> With what do they text if not a phone? >> >> On 10-11-18 11:26 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: >>> >>> No one uses phones a

Re: PESO: Godfrey's Contraption

2010-11-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
Mild steel is never as tasty as sharp steel. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Nov 17, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: > >>   Of course, I would never come up with an overwrought title like that! > > That wasn't wrought, it was probably mild steel. >> > > -- > La

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2010-11-18 Thread Jeffery Smith
Photoshop allows a large measure of filter "effects" in converting color to B&W, using slider tools that show the preview of the filter's effects. The biggest problem I have when shooting digital is blown highlights that I cannot burn and basically have to replace using cut a paste from an adjoi

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2010-11-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Collin Brendemuehl wrote: >Paul "the heretic" Stenquist wrote: > >>That's probably the result of sloppy conversions. I don't employ filters, but >>>I convert using the ACR BW function, which allows you to control the gray >>>level of each color independently. It's actually superior to BW film in

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2010-11-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I haven't looked at the Pentax Photo Gallery in a very long time, but I assure you that what I print is hardly "3 tones". ;-) I capture raw format and use Lightroom (and/or Photoshop) to render B&W. Rendering B&W is not a "Saturday a.m. experiment" if you want to be skilled at it. Regards filters

Re: What Price Today the K-5 In USA

2010-11-18 Thread CheekyGeek
Interestingly, Buy.com has Adorama selling the K-5 body for $1493 + 16 shipping ($1509 total), while the Adorama site itself has it priced at $1565 with free shipping. Buy.com currently shows it In Stock and shipping in "1 to 2 business days". http://www.buy.com/prod/pentax-k-5-16-3-megapixel-digit

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2010-11-18 Thread Jack Davis
The only minor tinkering I've done in this area is use a polarizer on the B&W preset and compare that to a post color conversion. Felt the color channel conversion capabilities were superior. --- On Thu, 11/18/10, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > From: Collin Brendemuehl > Subject: digital b&w > T

Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...

2010-11-18 Thread eckinator
2010/11/18 Larry Colen : > > Don't even mention Kennyboy.  Let people figure it out for themselves.  If > anyone asks tell them that you named it after an old girlfriend who was into > photography and played the bass in a punk polka band. Thanks Larry. Sticking with the KR team I promise to PayP

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2010-11-18 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Paul "the heretic" Stenquist wrote: >That's probably the result of sloppy conversions. I don't employ filters, but >>I convert using the ACR BW function, which allows you to control the gray >>level of each color independently. It's actually superior to BW film in many >>ways. I believe Lightro

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2010-11-18 Thread Matthew Montgomery
I use Matt Kloskowski's black and white presets as a starting point at times. http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/presets-better-black-and-whites/ On Nov 18, 2010, at 1:45 PM, Tim Bray wrote: > In fact, I've used the LR low-contrast and high-contrast presets for > making B&W and they do pretty

Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...

2010-11-18 Thread steve harley
On 2010-11-18 05:07 , eckinator wrote: Thank you Larry =) On a serious note, I wonder if I should ask Mattel first rather than to have them go after me later - I figure that using the words Ken or Barbie by themselves is no big whoop whereare advertising the site with "you've seen ken rock well,

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2010-11-18 Thread Tim Bray
In fact, I've used the LR low-contrast and high-contrast presets for making B&W and they do pretty well. I always tinker but on a couple occasions just went almost entirely with the preset, because it was so good. -Tim On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:32 AM, David Parsons wrote: > Yeah, LR has sliders

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2010-11-18 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 18, 2010, at 11:16 AM, CheekyGeek wrote: > The only filters that I feel are necessary/useful in the digital world > are Neutral Density filters (for those times you want longer shutter > speeds at equiv. apertures or gradient NDs) and maybe polarizers. In most cases, I'd agree with you.

Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot

2010-11-18 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" Subject: Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:56 AM, David Mann wrote: On Nov 18, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Bob W wrote: I was 16 or so when the album was released,

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2010-11-18 Thread David Parsons
Yeah, LR has sliders for each color (10 or 12 different colors and shades, IIRC). I really like how LR handles B&W conversions. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:21 PM, paul stenquist wrote: > > On Nov 18, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > >> I've been looking at a lot of digital b&w work th

Re: peso mr. mom

2010-11-18 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "eckinator" Subject: Re: peso mr. mom Fun shot IMO but the midwife's words come to mind who said it is consensus in the medical community that the "baby björn" style carriers with the legs han

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2010-11-18 Thread paul stenquist
On Nov 18, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > I've been looking at a lot of digital b&w work this week. > > When you digitroids do this, do you employ filters like we filmaniacs do? > I'm thinking that this might be a good Saturday a.m. experiment. > > When I look at the work on Pent

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2010-11-18 Thread CheekyGeek
The only filters that I feel are necessary/useful in the digital world are Neutral Density filters (for those times you want longer shutter speeds at equiv. apertures or gradient NDs) and maybe polarizers. Other than that, you can do the filter-thing for various B&W enhancements with a post-process

Re: Semi-OT: Battery Question

2010-11-18 Thread steve harley
On 2010-11-12 11:44 , John Sessoms wrote: I don't know if there will be any other windoze computers along on the trip. I could format my external drive for Mac HFS or HFS+ and install MacDrive on my windoze box when I get home. just noticed this; format the external as FAT-32 -- any Mac can rea

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2010-11-18 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I've been looking at a lot of digital b&w work this week. When you digitroids do this, do you employ filters like we filmaniacs do? I'm thinking that this might be a good Saturday a.m. experiment. When I look at the work on Pentax photo gallery, the B&w efforts seem to share a common fault: 3 to

Re: Phonecamera

2010-11-18 Thread P. J. Alling
Specially designed texting devices, that just barely resemble a phone. On 11/18/2010 1:50 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: With what do they text if not a phone? On 10-11-18 11:26 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: No one uses phones anymore they all text... On 11/18/2010 8:47 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://en.

Re: OT: Engineer humor

2010-11-18 Thread Adam Maas
Groan -Adam On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > Warning, a pun bad enough that I laughed out loud: > http://partiallyclips.com/2010/09/24/workplace-conversation/ > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.n

Re: Phonecamera

2010-11-18 Thread Bruce Walker
With what do they text if not a phone? On 10-11-18 11:26 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: No one uses phones anymore they all text... On 11/18/2010 8:47 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://en.akihabaranews.com/70707/phones/lg-l-03c-the-%E2%80%9Cfirst%E2%80%9D-point-shoot-phone -- PDML Pentax-Disc

Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...

2010-11-18 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:07 AM, eckinator wrote: > Thank you Larry =) > On a serious note, I wonder if I should ask Mattel first rather than > to have them go after me later - I figure that using the words Ken or > Barbie by themselves is no big whoop whereare advertising the site > with "you've see

Re: I'm back, and so is @PDML

2010-11-18 Thread Miserere
On 16 November 2010 01:44, Tim Bray wrote: > The summer trip to Chicago, except for the couple of hours I spent in > your company, was disastrous on some other fronts, and then I got > super-busy at work, then I noticed I was like 2000-plus messages > behind on PDML.  Also, the PESO/Twitter mashup

Re: PESO: Godfrey's Contraption

2010-11-18 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 17, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: > Of course, I would never come up with an overwrought title like that! That wasn't wrought, it was probably mild steel. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/m

Re: PESO: more clouds from the french alps and an unusual diner .....

2010-11-18 Thread Madame RD
thanks Christine . i've seen some incredible clouds over there dominique Le 18/11/10 02:46, Christine Aguila a écrit : That's a very dramatic cloud, dominique! Nicely composed frame. Cheers, christine - Original Message - From: "Madame RD" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent:

Re: New K5 firmware is out.

2010-11-18 Thread Jack Davis
"..and boy do I need it!" J --- On Thu, 11/18/10, m...@robertstech.com wrote: > From: m...@robertstech.com > Subject: Re: New K5 firmware is out. > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 9:30 AM > Thibouille > wrote: > > >Link and comments here: > >http://www.pe

Re: New K5 firmware is out.

2010-11-18 Thread mark
Thibouille wrote: >Link and comments here: >http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/123030-k5-firmware-available.html > >Some user got 24 RAW at Iso100, from approx 20 officialy stated. I just had a vision of Steve Martin running around in circles shouting, "The new firmware is out

Re: New K5 firmware is out.

2010-11-18 Thread Thibouille
Sd Card speed, compression rate of thé image and iso (high iso noise meaning less compression). 2010/11/18, Ralf R. Radermacher : > Thibouille wrote: > >> Link and comments here: > > I have installed it and no probs so far. > >> Some user got 24 RAW at Iso100, from approx 20 officialy stated. > >

Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...

2010-11-18 Thread P. J. Alling
Tippi Hedren had a nervous breakdown during the filming of the birds. I think that doll is totally insensitive, and disrespectful of her memory, except that she's still alive. On 11/18/2010 12:04 PM, CheekyGeek wrote: Speaking of Barbie, this gives me a good excuse to point out one of the more

Re: New K5 firmware is out.

2010-11-18 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 03:39:32PM +0100, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: > Thibouille wrote: > > > Link and comments here: > > I have installed it and no probs so far. > > > Some user got 24 RAW at Iso100, from approx 20 officialy stated. > > Could this depend on the speed of the SD card and the

Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...

2010-11-18 Thread John Francis
IANAL, but parody is protected speech. And unless you intend to make it look as though yours is really a Mattel site, you should be safe. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 01:07:37PM +0100, eckinator wrote: > Thank you Larry =) > On a serious note, I wonder if I should ask Mattel first rather than > to h

Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...

2010-11-18 Thread CheekyGeek
Speaking of Barbie, this gives me a good excuse to point out one of the more BIZARRE Barbie Dolls I have seen yet. Frankly, I think it is for the birds. http://tinyurl.com/27x87kh Darren Addy Kearney, NE - - - Nothing is sure but Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

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