Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 April 2013 12:50, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the classic mnemonic I was taught at school - B (rackets) O (vers) D (ivision) M (ultiplication) A (dditions) S (ubtractions) Which often gives the correct answer, but equally can give an

[PlainText] MoreScratch.txt

2013-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
A walk in blustery, cold Peel the other day found me looking at details. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8634405172/lightbox This and five other photos from Peel are available in a small set at http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157633203853634/ Enjoy! Godfrey -- Godfrey

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Bob W
On 10 Apr 2013, at 05:22, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Given the size of the system and hence its inertia f[...] the general direction at which this juggernaut is moving on its own... I blame the physics teachers... :0) B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

PESO 2013 - in Peel - GDG

2013-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Pardon the double post. Made a couple errors on the initial one. A walk in blustery, cold Peel the other day found me looking at details. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8634405172/lightbox This and five other photos from are available in a small set at

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Bob, you're wrong. The Englishman with Jewish name Izik is the one to blame... :- On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 10 Apr 2013, at 05:22, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Given the size of the system and hence its inertia f[...] the general

Re: April PUG - 'Precipitation' now on line

2013-04-10 Thread Bruce Walker
An excellent gallery! I especially enjoy Steve Sharpe's Tracks and Ken's Bud. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:55 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all Varied interpretations of the theme make this a very enjoyable gallery. I really like Matthew's 'Thunderstorm, Badlands

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:07 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/9/2013 9:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Because, simply put, the problem isn't the schools. The problem is at home. Children who come from families that put a high priority on education do well in school. If kids see

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Including under god in the pledge of allegiance is hardly worship. It is mostly a recognition that Americans are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights that can not be taken away by the government. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Apr 9,

Re: Peso Airbourne

2013-04-10 Thread David J Brooks
Actually a him:-) Thanks for the comments all. I have been playing with the spot heal brush in PS trying to get rid of that other kid, but with litle success. I have other photos with kids in the back ground but farther away, and they seem to be able to get rid of. May be not enough back ground

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
what is the interest of the pupil. If he or she want to learn So, if we eliminate compulsory education, and let the slackers drop out, we will have a better school system? Dan On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: what is the interest of the pupil. If he or

Re: PESO 2013 - in Peel - GDG

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The first image is very cute, and seems very, very British. (or should I say Manx?) The other image, of the wall, is very strong and compelling; great color, geometry and textures. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi

An Interview with Pentax Executive Vice President Jim Malcolm (4/4)

2013-04-10 Thread Darren Addy
I don't think this has been discussed here yet but perhaps, given that this is the Pentax Discuss Mailing List, it is worthy list fodder: http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/features/an-interview-with-pentax-evp-jim-malcolm -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote: This discussion seems to assume that the existence of charter shoals and voucher systems is up for debate. It's not. They're operating and, in many places, succeeding. We still have much to learn about how they should be regulated and on what basis

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Including under god in the pledge of allegiance is hardly worship. It is mostly a recognition that Americans are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights that can not be taken away by the government. Do you support tax breaks for

GESO: Carrie Furnace

2013-04-10 Thread Zos Xavius
Here is what remains of Carrie Furnace. Units 6 and 7 are all that they left standing. This portion of the mill was built in 1906 and gives a good example of of what early steel mills looked like. They are trying to preserve it, but honestly its decay is accelerating, so there won't be much to

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Apr 9, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Apr 8, 2013, at 11:41 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: There are a lot of people who believe in no gods. But those too have created gods in

Re: GESO: Carrie Furnace

2013-04-10 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:15 , Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: Here is what remains of Carrie Furnace. Units 6 and 7 are all that they left standing. This portion of the mill was built in 1906 and gives a good example of of what early steel mills looked like. They are trying to preserve

Re: Peel

2013-04-10 Thread Don Guthrie
A collection of charming photos, well seen, captured, presented. I find Reflection and Backdoor particularly nice. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 12 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 08:00:37 +0100 From: Godfrey DiGiorgigodfreydigio...@me.com To: PAW Picture-A-Week projectp...@micapeak.com,

Re: [PlainText] MoreScratch.txt

2013-04-10 Thread kwaller
A great collection of details. Charles St is my choice of the lot. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com Subject: [PlainText] MoreScratch.txt A walk in blustery, cold Peel the other day

Re:GESO: Carrie Furnace

2013-04-10 Thread Don Guthrie
Some very strong images there. I think your choices of BW vs Color were appropriate. Nice envy inducing work. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 12 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 11:15:39 -0400 From: Zos Xaviuszosxav...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO: Carrie

Re: GESO: Carrie Furnace

2013-04-10 Thread Darren Addy
Really like this one: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=434486426639777 and this one also stands out: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=434486706639749 On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:15 , Zos Xavius

Re: GESO: Carrie Furnace

2013-04-10 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: Here is what remains of Carrie Furnace. Units 6 and 7 are all that they left standing. This portion of the mill was built in 1906 and gives a good example of of what early steel mills looked like. Wonderful work but are you sure the furnace is that old?

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Bill
On 10/04/2013 7:57 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: what is the interest of the pupil. If he or she want to learn So, if we eliminate compulsory education, and let the slackers drop out, we will have a better school system? Actually, yes. You will have students who are motivated, which makes

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
My comment has nothing to do with tax breaks or anything else, but you know that. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 10, 2013, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Including under god in the pledge

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
If we want a school system that works, we need to switch to an all-public model. How will reducing everyone to the lowest common denominator make the system work? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
You will have students who are motivated, which makes the job of teaching much easier, and will tend to attract people to the profession who are passionate about teaching. Unfortunately, that is the philosophy of the current system: make the job of teachers easier, and eliminate any method of

Re: An Interview with Pentax Executive Vice President Jim Malcolm (4/4)

2013-04-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
Sad to read the position on full frame for Pentax. Without the hope of it, I might as well switch to Canon. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think this has been discussed here yet but perhaps, given that this is the Pentax

Re: PESO - Highland Park - 1969

2013-04-10 Thread George Sinos
After resurrecting this old slide I'm thinking about taking a drive to see what that old park looks like today. I haven't driven by it in years. My guess is a lot of those old trees are gone. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at

Re: GESO: Carrie Furnace

2013-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
A great set. I found it most interesting. Paul On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:15 , Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: Here is what remains of Carrie Furnace. Units 6 and 7 are all that they left standing. This portion of the

Re: GESO: Carrie Furnace

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I liked Free Candy for its humor. I liked the Coke Express for unintended humor and the deer statue. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:15 , Zos Xavius

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Bill
On 10/04/2013 11:04 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: You will have students who are motivated, which makes the job of teaching much easier, and will tend to attract people to the profession who are passionate about teaching. Unfortunately, that is the philosophy of the current system: make the job

Re: GESO: Carrie Furnace

2013-04-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
Love #21 and #44 (such dark strength) and the owl shots and the ladle car(#705). Nice work. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: Here is what remains of Carrie Furnace. Units 6 and 7 are all that they left standing. This portion of the mill

Re: An Interview with Pentax Executive Vice President Jim Malcolm (4/4)

2013-04-10 Thread Stan Halpin
On Apr 10, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Sad to read the position on full frame for Pentax. Without the hope of it, I might as well switch to Canon. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think this has been discussed

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Actually, yes. You will have students who are motivated, which makes the job of teaching much easier, and will tend to attract people to the profession who are passionate about teaching. Yo won't run into the situation that is happening in Georgia (IIRC) where an entire school board is under

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 01:04:49PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: You will have students who are motivated, which makes the job of teaching much easier, and will tend to attract people to the profession who are passionate about teaching. Unfortunately, that is the philosophy of the current

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread John Sessoms
Do you mean like the right to not have the government telling you when, where, why how to pray, along with who to pray to? From: Daniel J. Matyola Including under god in the pledge of allegiance is hardly worship. It is mostly a recognition that Americans are endowed by their Creator with

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread John Sessoms
Perhaps a better school system, but at the expense of an overall worsening of society. From: Daniel J. Matyola what is the interest of the pupil. If he or she want to learn So, if we eliminate compulsory education, and let the slackers drop out, we will have a better school system? Dan On

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Bob W
On 10 Apr 2013, at 19:09, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: I know a little about this; one of my parents (and both of those of my wife) were life-long teachers. I went to the UK equivalent of both a US public school (although this was before Maggie Thatcher's drive to full comprehensive

Re: An Interview with Pentax Executive Vice President Jim Malcolm (4/4)

2013-04-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
Stan, I spent my share of time behind the glass in focus groups and as part of Marketing at MickeyD's. It sounded like a 'kiss-off' to me. I am happy with the K-5 and K-5IIs, but still miss my wide angles. And I'd like a long autofocus telephoto for less than $5K. And how about a AF2X and

K30 thoughts ... and ...

2013-04-10 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Moving from the K-r to the K30 has been interesting. 1) The in-hand feel is, to me, no big deal. But they are quite different in fit. 2) The white balance is slightly different between the two. Our FL lights are two different makes so the lamps, though they have the same K rating, have a

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote: This discussion seems to assume that the existence of charter shoals and voucher systems is up for debate. It's not. They're operating and, in many places, succeeding. We still have

RE: An Interview with Pentax Executive Vice President Jim Malcolm, (4/4)

2013-04-10 Thread John Sessoms
From: Darren Addy I don't think this has been discussed here yet but perhaps, given that this is the Pentax Discuss Mailing List, it is worthy list fodder: http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/features/an-interview-with-pentax-evp-jim-malcolm -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread John Sessoms
Unfortunately, the philosophy of the current system is to test all the kids in all the schools. Take money away from the schools where the kids test scores are below average and give it to the schools were the students already have test scores above average. Test 'em all again next year to

Re: An Interview with Pentax Executive Vice President Jim Malcolm (4/4)

2013-04-10 Thread Darren Addy
Bob, Unless you are a purely prime lens guy, there are really good options at the wide end. I really like the Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6 which gives you a 15mm equiv. FOV at the wide end (the widest K prime focal length that Pentax ever made, unless I'm mistaken). They make a f3.5 version also.

Re: An Interview with Pentax Executive Vice President Jim Malcolm (4/4)

2013-04-10 Thread John Sessoms
Not Canon. Never Canon (thanks to Anika1980). But, the clock is ticking and Nikon is looking a lot more attractive. From: Bob Sullivan Sad to read the position on full frame for Pentax. Without the hope of it, I might as well switch to Canon. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:48 AM,

Re: An Interview with Pentax Executive Vice President Jim Malcolm (4/4)

2013-04-10 Thread Bill
On 10/04/2013 1:01 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Bob, Unless you are a purely prime lens guy, there are really good options at the wide end. I really like the Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6 which gives you a 15mm equiv. 10mm is getting pretty wide, but a real camera company doesn't depend on a third

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Aahz: If we want a school system that works, we need to switch to an all-public model. How will reducing everyone to the lowest common denominator make the system work? Repeat:

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Bob W
On 10 Apr 2013, at 16:16, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Apr 9, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Apr 8, 2013, at 11:41 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: There are a lot of people

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Do you mean like the right to not have the government telling you when, where, why how to pray, along with who to pray to? I have many complaints about our government, but they have never told me when, where, why and how to pray, or to whom to pray. Dan Dan Matyola

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I don't point fingers at other states, let alone other nations. Unfortunately, all humans are subject to corruption, and some will steal as much as they can if there is no fear of prosecution. If you believe that your country is free of corruption, or morally superior to others, you are of course

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 03:43:48PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Do you mean like the right to not have the government telling you when, where, why how to pray, along with who to pray to? I have many complaints about our government, but they have never told me when, where, why and how to

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Apr 10, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 10 Apr 2013, at 16:16, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Apr 9, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Apr 8, 2013,

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote: A simplistic reading of the situation. Of course atheism and secularism are different. I'm not confusing them, but atheists are generally secularists. Many atheists and the secularists, which are indeed different, have in their fervor developed

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Apr 10, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 03:43:48PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Do you mean like the right to not have the government telling you when, where, why how to pray, along with who to pray to? I have many complaints about our

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Apr 10, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 10, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote: A simplistic reading of the situation. Of course atheism and secularism are different. I'm not confusing them, but atheists are generally secularists. Many atheists and the

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm going to avoid this thread going forward. I don't think any of us are going to achieve conversions. In the past we've avoided religious discussions. That was good policy. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:55:13PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: I grew up as one of very few jews in the schools that I went to. I always felt uncomfortable around Christmas because one of the class activities was singing Christmas carols. Christmas carols are, in effect, prayers, at the

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 04:34:32PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: I'm going to avoid this thread going forward. I don't think any of us are going to achieve conversions. In the past we've avoided religious discussions. That was good policy. Agreed. Question: does discussing full-frame fall

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Apr 10, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 04:34:32PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: I'm going to avoid this thread going forward. I don't think any of us are going to achieve conversions. In the past we've avoided religious discussions. That

Re: An Interview with Pentax Executive Vice President Jim Malcolm, (4/4)

2013-04-10 Thread Stan Halpin
On Apr 10, 2013, at 2:47 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Darren Addy I don't think this has been discussed here yet but perhaps, given that this is the Pentax Discuss Mailing List, it is worthy list fodder: http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/features/an-interview-with-pentax-evp-jim-malcolm --

Re: GESO: Carrie Furnace

2013-04-10 Thread Zos Xavius
First of all thanks for the nice comments. I do tend to mix bw with color a lot. No rhyme or reason as to what I pick for what. Its usually whatever I feel looks better, though I do get on all black and white kicks sometimes. Yeah the furnace was built in 1906

PESO: Used Car Salesman

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17143036 I felt a bit intimidated. Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I think I can top that, Larry. I went to elementary school when they stiill said the Lord's Prayer every day. The town was mostly Catholic, an I was one of the few who said the protestant ending. Based on the teachings of my conservative Lutheran Church, I should have refused to say it at all.

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
No one is trying to convert anyone else, Paul. Discussing our various feelings about religion in public life is benign, and, I believe helpful to understanding each others perspective. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Paul

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Eactivist
Bong! The below implies that atheists (they) are a group that meets and gets together and makes joint decisions. I suppose there is an atheist society somewhere, but very few atheists belong to it. It also implies that secularists (they) are such a group as well. You night relook up the

Re: PESO: Used Car Salesman

2013-04-10 Thread Jack Davis
If I'm not mistaken, I ran into this guy a few times.   Jack G - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:26 PM Subject: PESO: Used Car Salesman

RE: An Interview with Pentax Executive Vice President Jim Malcolm, (4/4)

2013-04-10 Thread Chris Brogden
Since then he's occasionally taken some Pentax stuff in trade that I've subsequently purchased (that's how I got my K20D) and he's still got a few old accessories he hasn't consigned to eBay. But he no longer sells Pentax, because Pentax won't sell to him. Same story I got from my dealer in

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 05:46:21PM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Bong! Bong didn't write the post that you're replying to, Paul did. By the way, someone made a mistaken conflation between atheist (meaning no-gods) and agnostic (meaning no-knowledge). The below implies that atheists

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Eactivist
Bong as in the bong show, duh. I am perfectly willing to drop it like Paul did, but you brought it up again. Paul said something, I said some people believe in no gods, Paul essentially said that even atheists and secularists have their gods (substitute gods). I challenged that

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 06:09:43PM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Bong as in the bong show, duh. Do you mean the Gong show? They say that as you age, the memory is the second thing to go. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

RE: PESO: Used Car Salesman

2013-04-10 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
What do you mean you don't want rustproofing?? ;-) Fun shot, Dan. cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: April 10, 2013 4/10/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Used Car Salesman

OT - can someone photoshop the sun between my fingers?

2013-04-10 Thread Bruce Walker
I think some very noble attempts ... http://loljam.com/post/4157/ -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: OT - can someone photoshop the sun between my fingers?

2013-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
A hoot. Makes one want to have a go at it. Paul On Apr 10, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I think some very noble attempts ... http://loljam.com/post/4157/ -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: April PUG - 'Precipitation' now on line

2013-04-10 Thread Steve Sharpe
Thanks for everyone's favourable comments! I used to live in Waterloo when I was a student...or the 'Loo, as we called it... ;-) (For the uninitiated, Kitchener-Waterloo - or KY as some of my friends used to refer to the place - are two cities kind of stuck together.) At 10:35 PM +

Re: April PUG - 'Precipitation' now on line

2013-04-10 Thread Bruce Walker
Yeah, the response has been pretty muted lately. But that in no way diminishes my respect for the maintainer (thanks, Brian!) and the many talented contributors. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:35 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I remember when the monthly release of PUG

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I don't dislike theists at all. I disagree with them on an issue that is of far more importance to them than it is to me. What I do take issue with is people trying (quite wrongly) to tell me what I ~do~ believe: Atheism is a religion just like any other. No, actually it's not. You really do

Brought a film body after all

2013-04-10 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
Sorry about the hit-and-run question a while back -- thngs got really hectic and stayed that way. I'm in Cyprus now (minus my phone and wallet, alas). I decided to bing the K2 after all. Why? Well, because I found some unused Kodak HIE in my freezer! Of all the places I'm likely to actually

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Eactivist
Well, the gong on the gong show went bong. Actually, what I mean was boing! Okay, Larry, I'll bite, tell me, what is the first? Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 4/10/2013 3:19:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, l...@red4est.com writes: On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 06:09:43PM -0400,

PESO - 36 years ago

2013-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thirty-six years ago I shot an article for a magazine called CARS. The article was about aftermarket supercharger kits. The fellow who was selling them was Gary Dyer. Those familiar with drag racing but recognize him as the driver of Mr. Norm's Super Charger, a groundbreaking car of the mid

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 08:03:19PM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Well, the gong on the gong show went bong. Actually, what I mean was boing! Okay, Larry, I'll bite, tell me, what is the first? I dunno. I forgot years ago. Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 4/10/2013 3:19:21

Re: April PUG - 'Precipitation' now on line

2013-04-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
With so many other pictures being presented here, the PUG has gotten lost. This is a sad situation because the quality of the monthly offerings is a cut above the everyday PESO's and GESO's. I would hate to lose it. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Bruce Walker

Re: April PUG - 'Precipitation' now on line

2013-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent gallery. Really like Ken Waller's buds and Darren Addy's and Matthew Hunt's storms. Many other nice shots as well. Paul On Apr 10, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, the response has been pretty muted lately. But that in no way diminishes my respect

Re: PESO - 36 years ago

2013-04-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul, Kind of nice, very sharp, and Farrah Fawcett hair too! I'll bet she loves it... Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Thirty-six years ago I shot an article for a magazine called CARS. The article was about aftermarket

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 06:57:46AM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:07 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/9/2013 9:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Because, simply put, the problem isn't the schools. The problem is at home. Children who come from families that

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:02 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 06:57:46AM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:07 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/9/2013 9:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Because, simply put, the problem isn't the

PESO: Serious Warning

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
A sign on a hiking trail through the Ohe'o Gulch portion of Haleakala National Park: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17143042 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: April PUG - 'Precipitation' now on line

2013-04-10 Thread Darren Addy
Thanks to those that mentioned mine. I'm partial to storms so I like Matthew's also. Nice looking updraft base! The one that really took me by surprise though was Paul Sorenson's Cold Spring Rain. The through the wet windshield gives it a real painterly feel. A good gallery all. On Wed, Apr 10,

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Well, the gong on the gong show went bong. Actually, what I mean was boing! Okay, Larry, I'll bite, tell me, what is the first? You mean, Who's on first? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/

Re: An Interview with Pentax Executive Vice President Jim Malcolm (4/4)

2013-04-10 Thread Mark C
Thanks for posting, that Darren. My mis-interpretations of his comments - 1. On a Full Frame DSLR - Ok, I'm I'm gonna do this interview don't pester me with a bunch of questions about a FF DSLR that I am not allowed to answer. I'll give you a gratuitous remark on that subject that is intended

Re: PESO - 36 years ago

2013-04-10 Thread Jack Davis
Nice scan of a well exposed shot. I'm, also, impressed with your memory for 36 year old details.   Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:11 PM Subject: PESO - 36 years ago

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Daniel, you and I may have a communication breakdown here. For even a split second did I _not_ talk about the education being compulsory or not. If your system does not seriously challenge the slackers then you'll be having lots of trouble when they finish school. On 4/10/2013 4:57 PM,

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread kwaller
Discussing our various feelings about religion in public life is benign, and, I believe helpful to understanding each others perspective And belongs on another mailing list. Not one for photography! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message -

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman
On 4/10/2013 6:10 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: Only if we want to continue with a failing school system. If we want a school system that works, we need to switch to an all-public model (with, of course, some caveats):

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Daniel, consider this - if your country invests 1 trln (yep, trillion) dollars in educational system this year, they will see the outcome in, may be like 20 years - 12 years of school, 3-4 years - first degree, 4-6 years - second and/or third degree... So this kind of investment is extremely

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman
On 4/10/2013 9:38 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: We've had universal public educate for more than 200 years. It didn't work. It worked very well between approx 1950 and 1980 in Soviet Union. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I don' understand your comment or how it relates to anything I said. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel, consider this - if your country invests 1 trln (yep, trillion) dollars in

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman
On 4/11/2013 12:43 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: The next year, I was in the class where all the Catholics and all the Eastern Orthodox got out early every Tuesday for religious instruction. The one Jewish boy in the class and I did our homework on Tuesday afternoons. Well, I know that

Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman
On 4/10/2013 1:18 AM, Bob W wrote: That's not god, that's Raoul B Whoa! You talk to the Great Capablanca... Next time you do - ask him what does he think about the quick chess invented by Mr. Kasparov... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

OT but veering back towards photography (or not)

2013-04-10 Thread Rob Studdert
Looks like a waste of some nice gear http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2013/04/johnny-tergo-drive-by-portraits/#slideid-19263 -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested

2013-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Daniel, all-public schooling is not reducing to LCD. It is if you don't invest and your state (as in country, not as one of 50 United State) does not fully backs the educational system by funds, equipment, etc. This is huge investment with very slow return - you'll see returns like I said - in

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