Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-30 Thread Bob Sullivan
emocarcies - also > by political power. > > Regards > Jens Bladt > http://www.jensbladt.dk > +45 56 63 77 11 > +45 23 43 85 77 > Skype: jensbladt248 > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af P. J. > Alling >

RE: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-30 Thread Jens Bladt
s Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 30. september 2006 16:41 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: RE: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists) Doug wrote: >European Socialism has it's roots in the rigid class lines of the Feudal system. This is very far from the truth -

RE: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-30 Thread Jens Bladt
ocarcies - also by political power. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af P. J. Alling Sendt: 27. september 2006 03:51 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-29 Thread keith_w
frank theriault wrote: [...] > However, in urban areas - which are overloaded with cars, and have > much less green space to cleanse the air - nature is simply > overwhelmed, and pollution happens. It sort of reaches a "critical > mass", and then not much can be done about it. > > Does that ma

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-29 Thread DagT
Den 29. sep. 2006 kl. 22.09 skrev frank theriault: > On 9/29/06, keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> A fine answer, Frank. Reasonable and right. For you. >> All depends on where you live and your life style, doesn't it? > > It surely does. > >> If you happen to live in a city/community that ha

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-29 Thread Ivan Shukster
Frank RE rural areas ability to clean the environment, you are only very partially correct. The stuff that stays close to the ground will be less of an impact due to lower concentrations but once in the atmosphere it is in the only atmosphere we have. Oviously closer to the source the more concent

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-29 Thread frank theriault
On 9/29/06, keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A fine answer, Frank. Reasonable and right. For you. > All depends on where you live and your life style, doesn't it? It surely does. > If you happen to live in a city/community that has excellent public > transportation, if you're not married or

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-29 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 29, 2006, at 1:32 PM, keith_w wrote: > Back when I was piloting a Triumph TR-3 around (1957 or so) the > Sprite first > came out. Our sports car club met at an A.H. dealership in town. > I remember that first delivery, that the head mechanic bought on > the spot. > It was the *members*

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-29 Thread P. J. Alling
Where I live there was once lots of Mass Transit. You can still trace the old interurban and some of the local trolley lines, some have been made into linear parks. Unless you have a certain level of population density and no other alternatives they just aren't economically viable. The NY, H

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-29 Thread keith_w
frank theriault wrote: > On 9/28/06, keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Why IS that, Frank? >> Other than the fact that one recently laid you up fairly well, that is! > Nah, that's got nothing to do with it, Keith. Besides (hard to > believe) it's been a year now! The accident was Oct 6,

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-29 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 29, 2006, at 11:10 AM, frank theriault wrote: > What I'm against the the needless use of cars. Daily commutes when > transit's available. Those 5 block drives to the corner store to buy > beer. We have to understand that cars are bad for the environment. > Because each individual car do

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-29 Thread frank theriault
On 9/28/06, keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why IS that, Frank? > Other than the fact that one recently laid you up fairly well, that is! > Nah, that's got nothing to do with it, Keith. Besides (hard to believe) it's been a year now! The accident was Oct 6, 2005. In all seriousness, I h

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-29 Thread frank theriault
On 9/28/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Toronto drivers are idiots? Nah. I mean, they are, but the nice lady who hit me merely had a moment of inattention - could have happened at any place. cheers, frank (who so far has gotten enough money from insurance to buy a replacement bike -

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-29 Thread frank theriault
On 9/28/06, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your mother wears army boots. Only at the shooting range, during target practice... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinf

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-29 Thread mike wilson
AFG needs body language to be understood. If you can understand it in print, it's not AFG. QED. Did you know Davy Crockett had three ears? > > From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/09/29 Fri AM 12:48:12 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/28/2006 5:30:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dyslexics of the world untie. = Taht too. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread P. J. Alling
Your mother wears army boots. frank theriault wrote: >On 9/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>If all the world's auto workers were UAW members, we'd all be driving $50,000 >>subcompacts. Be careful what you wish for. >> >> > >Maybe if cars started at $50,000, and gas

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-28 Thread P. J. Alling
I wouldn't know, how can you tell, in print that is... mike wilson wrote: >Not authentic Frontier Gibberish, though. > >P. J. Alling wrote: > > > >>Apparently Cotty speaks Gibberish... >> >>Cotty wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>On 27/9/06, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread P. J. Alling
Dyslexics of the world untie. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >In a message dated 9/28/2006 12:28:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Marnie, > >A heck of a lot of those jobs went to Oakville, Ontario. Many of the >rest are elsewhere in the US (Toyota, BMW and Honda all have large

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread Adam Maas
Bob W wrote: > If all the world's auto workers were UAW members, we'd >> all be driving $50,000 subcompacts. Be careful what you wish for. Maybe if cars started at $50,000, and gas cost the same in >> the US as it does in Europe, we'd all breathe a bit easier. cheers,

RE: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread Bob W
> >>> If all the world's auto workers were UAW members, we'd > all be driving $50,000 subcompacts. Be careful what you wish for. > >> Maybe if cars started at $50,000, and gas cost the same in > the US as > >> it does in Europe, we'd all breathe a bit easier. > >> > >> cheers, > >> frank the bik

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread Adam Maas
keith_w wrote: > frank theriault wrote: >> On 9/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> If all the world's auto workers were UAW members, we'd all be driving >>> $50,000 subcompacts. Be careful what you wish for. >> Maybe if cars started at $50,000, and gas cost the same in the US

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread keith_w
frank theriault wrote: > On 9/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If all the world's auto workers were UAW members, we'd all be driving >> $50,000 subcompacts. Be careful what you wish for. > > Maybe if cars started at $50,000, and gas cost the same in the US as > it does in Eu

RE: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread Bob W
scuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections (now > Socialists) > > Maybe. But we'd have sore feet :-) > > -- Original message -- > From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On 9/2

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread Douglas Newman
--- "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: << They do not support sweat shops. >> That statement depends on two things. First, it depends on what you call a "sweat shop". Many people simply take this to mean any plant which operates on labor rules not as strict as in the US, Europe, or other h

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread pnstenquist
Maybe. But we'd have sore feet :-) -- Original message -- From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 9/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If all the world's auto workers were UAW members, we'd all be driving > > $50,000 > subcompacts. B

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-28 Thread mike wilson
Mark Roberts wrote: > Scott Loveless wrote: > > >>On 9/27/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>P. J. Alling wrote: >>> >>> It wasn't delivered under oath in court was it? >>> >>>No. He was sitting at my kitchen table and we were talking about >>>people he knew in school. >>> >>

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists) > American cars outperform all the European and some of the Japnese > makes in JD Power surveys of initial and long term quality. Mercury, > for exam

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-28 Thread mike wilson
Gonz wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>- Original Message - >>From: "Douglas Newman" >>Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics) >> >> >> >>. Most American politicians don't even >&

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-28 Thread mike wilson
Not authentic Frontier Gibberish, though. P. J. Alling wrote: > Apparently Cotty speaks Gibberish... > > Cotty wrote: > > >>On 27/9/06, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >> >> >> >>>Det synes jeg vi skal gjøre en dag, på norsk, og legge inn noen ufine >>>kommentarer om amerikanske navleb

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread frank theriault
On 9/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If all the world's auto workers were UAW members, we'd all be driving $50,000 > subcompacts. Be careful what you wish for. Maybe if cars started at $50,000, and gas cost the same in the US as it does in Europe, we'd all breathe a bit easi

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread Adam Maas
Neither Mercury nor Buick make small cars. I've never had any issues with the larger Big-3 products, at least not the more modern stuff. It's the small stuff that's either poorly engineered crap or simply poorly built variants of German engineering (See Chevy Cobalt, Cavalier, Pontiac Sunfire,

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread pnstenquist
American cars outperform all the European and some of the Japnese makes in JD Power surveys of initial and long term quality. Mercury, for example, was number two to Toyota in three-year durability. Buick has been near the top for quite a few years. The big problem with American cars is that the

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread Adam Maas
Naw, we'd be looking at them broken down in our driveways. -Adam Who's unimpressed with the reliability of Big-3 small cars. GM especially hasn't figured out that the fact that everything (now) works from the factory doesn't excuse the fact that it breaks down quickly. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread pnstenquist
If all the world's auto workers were UAW members, we'd all be driving $50,000 subcompacts. Be careful what you wish for. Paul -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In a message dated 9/28/2006 12:28:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] write

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists) > Yeah, that's an underlying problem for sure. American workers with a > decent > wage guaranteed benefits can't compete with foreign wor

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/28/2006 12:28:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, A heck of a lot of those jobs went to Oakville, Ontario. Many of the rest are elsewhere in the US (Toyota, BMW and Honda all have large factories in the US and Canada, most cars sold in the US toda

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread Adam Maas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 9/27/2006 5:29:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Marnie, > I think that the United Auto Workers were so successful in negotiating > benefits for their membership in the '50's, '60's, and '70's that all > the jobs have moved to

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread Eactivist
Hmmm, maybe a gun thread would have been better, after all. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/27/2006 5:29:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, I think that the United Auto Workers were so successful in negotiating benefits for their membership in the '50's, '60's, and '70's that all the jobs have moved to cheaper labor markets off shore. Emp

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/27/2006 6:05:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's because most Democrats don't agree on what most Democrats would support. ;-) Bob === Good point. ;-) Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/lis

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/27/2006 5:09:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you know, the parade of ignorance displayed in this family of threads has been nothing short of appalling. You should all be ashamed of yourselves for letting your stupid, jingoistic nonsense escape your

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-28 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: > On 9/27/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> No beer. Please stop intimating that my friend is a liar. > > You have friends? Heck no! (The person in question was a relative. Well, Lisa's relative, anyway.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-28 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: > On 9/27/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> In my house I'm judge *and* jury! > > Then what exactly would be the role of Dr. Lisa? Supreme court! > ps: I'm thinking maybe executioner? That too. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net ht

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-28 Thread frank theriault
On 9/27/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No beer. Please stop intimating that my friend is a liar. You have friends? -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.n

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-28 Thread frank theriault
On 9/27/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In my house I'm judge *and* jury! Then what exactly would be the role of Dr. Lisa? curious, frank ps: I'm thinking maybe executioner? -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDM

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-28 Thread DagT
Den 27. sep. 2006 kl. 23.05 skrev Cotty: > On 27/9/06, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> Det synes jeg vi skal gjøre en dag, på norsk, og legge inn noen ufine >> kommentarer om amerikanske navlebeskuere .-) > > Amerikanerne kunne studere deres egen navels , hvis bare de ville åpen > deres øye

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread David Savage
At 06:36 AM 28/09/2006, Mark Roberts wrote: >Scott Loveless wrote: > > >On 9/27/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> P. J. Alling wrote: > >> > >> >It wasn't delivered under oath in court was it? > >> > >> No. He was sitting at my kitchen table and we were talking about > >> people he

RE: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-27 Thread Bill Owens
, 2006 9:37 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists) I know several people who work at Wal-Mart "down here." They are all very pleased with the work environment, the pay and the benefits. It's a pretty good deal for most.

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
> > William Robb wrote: >> ----- Original Message - >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections (now >> Socialists) >> >> >>> === >>> And quite a few others since. Smoke and mirrors --

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-27 Thread graywolf
clerk positions in this town. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now NationalGeographic)

2006-09-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
i know Frank, and the Frank I know doesn't really suck. Paul On Sep 27, 2006, at 8:31 PM, graywolf wrote: > Ya, Frank, reality sucks. > > (Sorry somehow it seems like using term like Hoovers, would lose > some of > the impact, besides that would be unfair to Eureka > > -- > graywolf > http://w

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now NationalGeographic)

2006-09-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Bill borrowed a word from Doug.:-) On Sep 27, 2006, at 8:18 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "keith_w" > Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections (now > NationalGeographic) > > >> Paul Stenquist wrote: >>

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now NationalGeographic)

2006-09-27 Thread Adam Maas
graywolf wrote: > Because in the country they tend to be self-employed (micro-businesmen), > and in the cities they tend to be employees? Republicans in general do > not seem to think anyone who works with their hands should be paid > decently or have any rights, and are really ought to be inden

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-27 Thread graywolf
Well, the unions, or their memberships, have a lot to do with the attitude. Sometime, somehow, it quit being "all workers should have good pay, benefits, and fair treatment"; and became "we need to keep the riff-raff out". I grew up in a union family, I have been in unions myself, so I am not t

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Adam Maas
John Forbes wrote: > On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:17:33 +0100, Paul Stenquist > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It wouldn't make him an outcast. It would make him an independent >> thinker. We need more of those. > > It would make him both - in America. > > Elsewhere, he'd be normal. > > John > Y

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Bob Shell
On Sep 27, 2006, at 11:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't agree with your assessment of what most Democrats would > support. That's because most Democrats don't agree on what most Democrats would support. ;-) Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailm

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Adam Maas
Douglas Newman wrote: > --- "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Elsewhere, he'd be normal. > > Aren't independence and "normalcy" (as defined by > society) somewhat mutually exclsuive? "Normal" to me, > denotes a certain amount of conformity, which is > opposed to independence. > > --- Ad

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now NationalGeographic)

2006-09-27 Thread graywolf
Ya, Frank, reality sucks. (Sorry somehow it seems like using term like Hoovers, would lose some of the impact, besides that would be unfair to Eureka -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread graywolf
That's High Gibberish. Not to be confused with Low Gibberish. Dolla Tor? -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- P. J. Alling wrote: > Apparently Cotty speaks Gibberish... > > Cotty wrot

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread graywolf
, I am being a smart ass again. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Douglas Newm

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Marnie, I think that the United Auto Workers were so successful in negotiating benefits for their membership in the '50's, '60's, and '70's that all the jobs have moved to cheaper labor markets off shore. Employment by the big 3 US auto makers is what? ...10% of what it once was. Regards, Bob S.

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now NationalGeographic)

2006-09-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hey, didn't you hear what Doug said :-). Paul On Sep 27, 2006, at 8:20 PM, graywolf wrote: > Because in the country they tend to be self-employed (micro- > businesmen), > and in the cities they tend to be employees? Republicans in general do > not seem to think anyone who works with their hands s

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now NationalGeographic)

2006-09-27 Thread graywolf
Because in the country they tend to be self-employed (micro-businesmen), and in the cities they tend to be employees? Republicans in general do not seem to think anyone who works with their hands should be paid decently or have any rights, and are really ought to be indentured servants if not o

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now NationalGeographic)

2006-09-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "keith_w" Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections (now NationalGeographic) > Paul Stenquist wrote: >> On Sep 26, 2006, at 6:56 PM, William Robb wrote: >> >>> >>> The more education one recieves, the m

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Doug Brewer
you know, the parade of ignorance displayed in this family of threads has been nothing short of appalling. You should all be ashamed of yourselves for letting your stupid, jingoistic nonsense escape your fingers. sincerely, doug On Sep 27, 2006, at 5:36 PM, John Forbes wrote: > On Wed, 27

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Adam Maas
Nah, I don't think there's anywhere that would stone me. There are a couple places that I'd risk having my head taken off with a machete on video tape if I made free with my personal beliefs. -Adam Paul Stenquist wrote: > Not quite. In some countries he'd be stoned to death. > Paul > On Sep 27,

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Not quite. In some countries he'd be stoned to death. Paul On Sep 27, 2006, at 5:36 PM, John Forbes wrote: > On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:17:33 +0100, Paul Stenquist > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It wouldn't make him an outcast. It would make him an independent >> thinker. We need more of those. > >

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: >On 27/9/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>Apparently Cotty speaks Gibberish... >> >>Cotty wrote: >> >>>On 27/9/06, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed: >>> Det synes jeg vi skal gjøre en dag, på norsk, og legge inn noen ufine kommentarer om amerikanske navlebes

Re: Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Douglas Newman
--- "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Elsewhere, he'd be normal. Aren't independence and "normalcy" (as defined by society) somewhat mutually exclsuive? "Normal" to me, denotes a certain amount of conformity, which is opposed to independence. --- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/9/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: >Apparently Cotty speaks Gibberish... > >Cotty wrote: > >>On 27/9/06, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >> >> >>>Det synes jeg vi skal gjøre en dag, på norsk, og legge inn noen ufine >>>kommentarer om amerikanske navlebeskuere .-) >>>

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
...and franik understands it! frank theriault wrote: >On 9/27/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Amerikanerne kunne studere deres egen navels , hvis bare de ville åpen >>deres øye! >> >> >> > >Oy! > >-knarf > > > > -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simp

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote: >If beer was involved I'd be even more skeptical. No beer. Please stop intimating that my friend is a liar. -- Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_p

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
If beer was involved I'd be even more skeptical. Mark Roberts wrote: >P. J. Alling wrote: > > > >>I wouldn't call the person who told you the story a liar, but a certain >>amount of embellishment is often the case. Sometimes to the extent that >>the original story is changed beyond recogniti

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>Behalf Of Mark Roberts >>Sent: 27 September 2006 12:23 >>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections (now >> >> >politics) > > >>P. J. Alling wrote: >> > One of the more

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Apparently Cotty speaks Gibberish... Cotty wrote: >On 27/9/06, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > >>Det synes jeg vi skal gjøre en dag, på norsk, og legge inn noen ufine >>kommentarer om amerikanske navlebeskuere .-) >> >> > >Amerikanerne kunne studere deres egen navels , hvis bare d

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote: >On 9/27/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> P. J. Alling wrote: >> >> >It wasn't delivered under oath in court was it? >> >> No. He was sitting at my kitchen table and we were talking about >> people he knew in school. >> >Close enough! In my house I'm judge *and

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now NationalGeographic)

2006-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
You have your own reality, I'd like to think it's pleasant there... frank theriault wrote: >On 9/27/06, keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >> >>>On Sep 26, 2006, at 6:56 PM, William Robb wrote: >>> >>> >>> The more education one recieves, the more li

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Scott Loveless
On 9/27/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > P. J. Alling wrote: > > >It wasn't delivered under oath in court was it? > > No. He was sitting at my kitchen table and we were talking about > people he knew in school. > Close enough! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more fi

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote: >I wouldn't call the person who told you the story a liar, but a certain >amount of embellishment is often the case. Sometimes to the extent that >the original story is changed beyond recognition, or entirely made up. >I've been told first person accounts of a Vietnam War

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Adam Maas
John Forbes wrote: > On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:17:33 +0100, Paul Stenquist > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It wouldn't make him an outcast. It would make him an independent >> thinker. We need more of those. > > It would make him both - in America. > > Elsewhere, he'd be normal. > > John > >

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread John Forbes
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:17:33 +0100, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It wouldn't make him an outcast. It would make him an independent > thinker. We need more of those. It would make him both - in America. Elsewhere, he'd be normal. John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail cli

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
I wouldn't call the person who told you the story a liar, but a certain amount of embellishment is often the case. Sometimes to the extent that the original story is changed beyond recognition, or entirely made up. I've been told first person accounts of a Vietnam War story by two different p

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Douglas Newman" > Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics) > > > > . Most American politicians don't even > >>support legalizing cannabis for

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

2006-09-27 Thread frank theriault
On 9/27/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't knock Wal-Mart. > They are one of the better retail sector employees. > I don't have Wal-Mart USA numbers, but I expect they are similar to > Wal-Mart Canada, in that they average about $5000.00/year profit per > associate, or somewhere

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread frank theriault
On 9/27/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Amerikanerne kunne studere deres egen navels , hvis bare de ville åpen > deres øye! > Oy! -knarf -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pd

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/9/06, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed: >Det synes jeg vi skal gjøre en dag, på norsk, og legge inn noen ufine >kommentarer om amerikanske navlebeskuere .-) Amerikanerne kunne studere deres egen navels , hvis bare de ville åpen deres øye! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now NationalGeographic)

2006-09-27 Thread frank theriault
On 9/27/06, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good thing border guards don't [have a problem with reality]. Did you notice how testy they got when I called them Capitalist Stormtroopers? cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-

RE: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Bob W
d from the fact that I'm always right about everything. :o) -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mark Roberts > Sent: 27 September 2006 12:23 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Str

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread DagT
Det synes jeg vi skal gjøre en dag, på norsk, og legge inn noen ufine kommentarer om amerikanske navlebeskuere .-) DagT Den 27. sep. 2006 kl. 08.11 skrev Jostein Øksne: > I think you guys are getting too domestic for an international list. > > Imagine if Pål, DagT, Tim, Toralf and I went on li

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now NationalGeographic)

2006-09-27 Thread David J Brooks
Quoting frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 9/27/06, keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Paul Stenquist wrote: >> > On Sep 26, 2006, at 6:56 PM, William Robb wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> The more education one recieves, the more likely one is to aquire a >> >> socialist bent? >> >> >> > The mor

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now NationalGeographic)

2006-09-27 Thread frank theriault
On 9/27/06, keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul Stenquist wrote: > > On Sep 26, 2006, at 6:56 PM, William Robb wrote: > > > >> > >> The more education one recieves, the more likely one is to aquire a > >> socialist bent? > > > > The more removed from reality one might be, the more likely one

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Douglas Newman
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't agree with your assessment of what most > Democrats would support. I mean Democratic politicians. Democratic rank-and-file tend to be much more radical than Democratic politicians. I can't remember the last time I heard a Democratic candidate advocate a sin

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now NationalGeographic)

2006-09-27 Thread keith_w
William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "keith_w" > Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections (now > NationalGeographic) > > > >>> "Why is it always the intelligent people who are socialists?" - Alan >>&g

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now NationalGeographic)

2006-09-27 Thread keith_w
Paul Crovella wrote: > Republican rhetoric cracks me up. Frightened of higher education and > peer-reviewed research they attack it for not following their own > political fashion. Two "facts" not in evidence. "Republican rhetoric" and "Frightened of higher education" are not demonstrated as b

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now NationalGeographic)

2006-09-27 Thread keith_w
Paul Stenquist wrote: > On Sep 26, 2006, at 6:56 PM, William Robb wrote: > >> >> The more education one recieves, the more likely one is to aquire a >> socialist bent? > The more removed from reality one might be, the more likely one is to > acquire a socialist bent. Yes...I like that observa

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now NationalGeographic)

2006-09-27 Thread keith_w
Adam Maas wrote: > William Robb wrote: >> - Original Message - >> From: "keith_w" >> Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections (now >> NationalGeographic) >> >> >> >>>> "Why is it always the in

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote: > Mark Roberts wrote: > >> P. J. Alling wrote: >>> One of the more well known advocates of total decriminalizing most >>> currently illegal drugs is William F. Buckley, I think he'd be very >>> surprised to be considered a left winger. >> I know someone who went to the sa

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
It could be true, but I don't think I'll really believe that unless there's a corroborating witness, sounds too much like an urban legend to me. My father actually went to school with WFB at Yale. From what he told me Buckley's views on drugs have evolved quite a bit since that time. Mark Rob

Re: Street photography - religious objections (now politics)

2006-09-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 9/26/2006 9:58:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But either way, both are way, way outside the Democratic mainstream. Most Democrats would simply favor strengthening the private insurance system so that more people have insurance. In other words, they suppor

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