On 24/1/07, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>I guess when I said "around my house/apartment" I was referring to
>the landscape OUTSIDE of the residence, not IN it.
Charles, if you've got a busy life inside your apartment, that's fine by
me buddy ;-)
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On Jan 23, 2007, at 17:12, Cotty wrote:
> On 23/1/07, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>> While I'm not sure I'd take pictures of the BODY, I would document
>> "the scene" around my house/apartment if such a thing occurred.
>> Simply because that is what I do with a camera - record
In a message dated 1/23/2007 12:56:34 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You are a person of good taste and manners. Which is why you will never make
a journalist.
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> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/01/24 Wed AM 12:42:09 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Moral dilemma
>
> Seems to me that the BBC can't decide if it's organized. (or
> disorganized), crime.
Sa
On 1/24/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 23/1/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >> Define distasteful !
> >
> >Filming/reporting a "best of" blue vein cheese tasting.
>
> LOL thanks mate. Coffee->nostrils.
Whoops.
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>> Consider, Cotty. I drove today at work and approaching a crossing I
>> heard an ambulance's siren. Instinctively I turned to look in the
>> mirror (I have slightly wider custom inside mirror) only to realize
>> that nothing was in there. Meanwhile the ambulance was entering the
>> crossing
Seems to me that the BBC can't decide if it's organized. (or
disorganized), crime.
Cotty wrote:
> On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>
>>> Define distasteful !
>>>
>> I meant it as a generic statement. Distasteful varies from person to
>> person, as well as having a
On 23/1/07, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>While I'm not sure I'd take pictures of the BODY, I would document
>"the scene" around my house/apartment if such a thing occurred.
>Simply because that is what I do with a camera - record events. And
>that, while a bummer, is defi
On Jan 23, 2007, at 14:53, Kenneth Waller wrote:
> It appears the real question here is what would you do with the
> pictures
> taken?
>
While I'm not sure I'd take pictures of the BODY, I would document
"the scene" around my house/apartment if such a thing occurred.
Simply because that is
Cotty wrote:
> On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>
>>>Define distasteful !
>>
>>I meant it as a generic statement. Distasteful varies from person to
>>person, as well as having a cultural side. As a personal guide, I would
>>have it mean "to take advantage of the subject".
It appears the real question here is what would you do with the pictures
taken?
Kenneth Waller
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From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Moral dilemma
> On 23/1/07, John Coyle, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Yesterday, a youn
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Cotty
> Sent: 23 January 2007 09:26
> To: pentax list
> Subject: Re: Moral dilemma
>
> On 23/1/07, John Coyle, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >Yesterday, a young man died
On 23/1/07, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:
>All those things some a'hole sergeant tells you to do when you are in
>the military? Of course some f'ing orificer told him to make you do
>that. Some perverted polly told the officer to do that. And the
>politician got the idea from something
All those things some a'hole sergeant tells you to do when you are in
the military? Of course some f'ing orificer told him to make you do
that. Some perverted polly told the officer to do that. And the
politician got the idea from something some tall bald-headed Limey News
Cameraman shot. Hen
i think this would be me too! :)
russ
On 1/23/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What would I have done?
>
> I probably would have had no idea what was going on. But would be
> bitching and moaning about all the cop cars blocking the street.
>
> I would eventually find out what had hap
On Jan 23, 2007, at 5:47 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Cotty wrote:
>
>> Define distasteful !
>
> http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/mods/eoskmount.html
> ;-)
LOL !!!
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On 23/1/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> Define distasteful !
>
>Filming/reporting a "best of" blue vein cheese tasting.
LOL thanks mate. Coffee->nostrils.
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On 23/1/07, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>Consider, Cotty. I drove today at work and approaching a crossing I
>heard an ambulance's siren. Instinctively I turned to look in the
>mirror (I have slightly wider custom inside mirror) only to realize
>that nothing was in there. Meanwhi
On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> Define distasteful !
>
>I meant it as a generic statement. Distasteful varies from person to
>person, as well as having a cultural side. As a personal guide, I would
>have it mean "to take advantage of the subject". You could add
>disclaim
On 23/1/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>Define distasteful !
>
>http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/mods/eoskmount.html
>;-)
I asked for that.
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From: "Cotty"
Subject: Re: Moral dilemma
>
> Sadly you would not make it as a news photographer sir. There may be no
> obvious reason to you why need to shoot the corpse, but if your editor
> later discovered you had not, you would not
Ya just has to agree wit that...
Mark Roberts wrote:
> Cotty wrote:
>
>
>> On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>
>>> My pleasure. 8-) As you so elegantly stated, journos often have to do
>>> things that are distasteful and would not be something one would want to
>>> d
Cotty,
> Personally I don't think morality is an issue. I think it's about
> personal comfort and the law.
>
> ...
>
> If shooting (stills or video) in circumstances such as these is
> uncomfortable then the outcome is obvious - one will not do it, and
> probably think very little of those that wo
Cotty wrote:
>On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>My pleasure. 8-) As you so elegantly stated, journos often have to do
>>things that are distasteful and would not be something one would want to
>>do as an individual.
>
>Define distasteful !
http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/mo
What would I have done?
I probably would have had no idea what was going on. But would be
bitching and moaning about all the cop cars blocking the street.
I would eventually find out what had happened and then felt like a selfish twit.
Cheers,
Dave
On 1/23/07, John Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr
>
> From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/01/23 Tue PM 12:34:26 GMT
> To: "pentax list"
> Subject: Re: Moral dilemma
>
> On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >My pleasure. 8-) As you so elegantly stated, journos often
Yes I think that does it!
Cheers
Brian
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Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
Quoting David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 1/23/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Define distasteful !
>
> Filming/reporting a "best of" blue vein cheese tast
On 1/23/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >My pleasure. 8-) As you so elegantly stated, journos often have to do
> >things that are distasteful and would not be something one would want to
> >do as an individual.
>
> Define distasteful !
On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>My pleasure. 8-) As you so elegantly stated, journos often have to do
>things that are distasteful and would not be something one would want to
>do as an individual.
Define distasteful !
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On 1/23/07 4:27 AM, "Cotty", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> This tells me that you are very decent person and of commonsense. I think
>> Police was wrong. In the country where I came from, or many other
>> countries, they quickly erect a tent to conceal the scene out of respect for
>> the decease
>
> From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/01/23 Tue AM 09:36:59 GMT
> To: "pentax list"
> Subject: Re: Moral dilemma
>
> On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >You are a person of good taste and manners. Which is why yo
On 23/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
>That's pretty much what I was going to say, except that I hadn't
>gotten as far as thinking about what I'd do if I were employed as
>a news photographer.
>
>I'd shoot the overall scene, shots of police collecting evidence
>other than ri
On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>You are a person of good taste and manners. Which is why you will never
>make a journalist.
Thanks Mike ! ;-)
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On 23/1/07, John Coyle, discombobulated, unleashed:
>Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The
>street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told.
>Despite the fact that I could see all this action, and from our roof could
>see the body and
On 22/1/07, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed:
>This tells me that you are very decent person and of commonsense. I think
>Police was wrong. In the country where I came from, or many other
>countries, they quickly erect a tent to conceal the scene out of respect for
>the deceased, regardle
> From: "John Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/01/23 Tue AM 02:07:59 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss"
> Subject: Moral dilemma
>
> What would you have done?
> Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The
> street
John Coyle wrote:
> What would you have done?
> Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The
> street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told.
> Despite the fact that I could see all this action, and from our roof could
> see the body and th
John Coyle wrote:
> I did not shoot a single photograph.
>
> I'll leave any further comment at this stage...
>
>
What you did was fine. But honestly, people die. They really do. And
taking photographs doesn't change the situation much.
Now, would it have been crude, tactless, or even taboo
Tom Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Coyle wrote:
> > What would you have done?
> > Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The
> > street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told.
> > Despite the fact that I could see all this actio
or all three...
William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Coyle" Subject: Moral dilemma
>
>
>
>> What would you have done?
>> Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The
>> street was full of polic
- Original Message -
From: "John Coyle" Subject: Moral dilemma
> What would you have done?
> Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The
> street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told.
> Despite the fac
),
but the investigation going on may have been
interesting to review.
jco
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tom Simpson
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:21 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Moral dilemma
As an individual, amateur
On 1/22/07, John Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What would you have done?
> Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The
> street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told.
> Despite the fact that I could see all this action, and from our roo
Just what you did, I think.
Cheers
Brian
++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
Quoting John Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> What would you have done?
> Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I
> live. The
> street was full of police a
On 1/22/07 9:07 PM, "John Coyle", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What would you have done?
> Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The
> street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told.
> Despite the fact that I could see all this action, and
As an individual, amateur photographer, I might have looked for
interesting shots relating to the response to the call, but would not
have shot the body itself. That is just more than a little morbid for
me, and kinda' disrespectful of both the deceased and his/her family.
If I were a news pho
What would you have done?
Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The
street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told.
Despite the fact that I could see all this action, and from our roof could
see the body and the various examinations takin
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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
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From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
HAR. A crack into which a crowbar will take purchase..
Now don't make me peckish...
Drinks are o
I usually solve this problem by giving my wife the camera and letting her
take pictures. I take over only when there is really
something interesting to shoot. That way you don't even need to carry the
camera, she will carry it for you. You just need 2GB
memory card minimum for this.
> Sha
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:54 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > HAR. A crack into which a crowbar will take purc
I like to let her think she does anyway...
:-)
Shaun
Cotty said:
> On 4/5/05, Shaun Canning, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North
>>Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
>>take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I
TED]
http://www.heritageservices.com.au
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From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:54 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
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From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> HAR. A crack into wh
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Subject: Re: Re: Moral Dilemma
>
> From: Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/05/04 Wed AM 09:58:46 GMT
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
>
> Shaun,
>
>
From my experience, if you do not do what wife wants, she will get mad. If you do what she wants, she will eventually leave you because you are a whimp. It is called, "You can not win". So the best thing to do is what you wanted to do anyway
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==>
Jostein is right.
The wife wants your help and attention with an 8 month old.
Put a small, fixed focal length lens on the camera and
put it away in your bags. After you reach your destination,
and have shown your attentiveness, 'discover' the camera
and take a limited amount of pictures of the t
On 4/5/05, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed:
>Okay, here's for another moral dilemma:
>
>Sell my gear to finance a thirst quench for these rabid PDML'ers, AND
>having to explain that to the wife in a plausible way;
>
>or,
>
>Show her the mail I sent to Shaun.
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From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Yy!!! Drinks are on Jostein!
Okay, here's for another moral dilemma:
Sell my gear to finance a thirst quench for these rabid PDML'ers, AND
having to explain that to the wife in a plausible way
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From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
HAR. A crack into which a crowbar will take purchase..
Now don't make me peckish...
Drinks are on you!
Uh-oh.
Have mercy!
Imagine how much Pentax gear I would have to sell of to finance that!
Jostein
On 4/5/05, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed:
>To all London DPML'ers,
>Please don't mention this mail to Vera in the coming week-end. :-)
HAR. A crack into which a crowbar will take purchase..
Drinks are on you!
Cheers,
Cotty
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Quoting Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Shaun,
>
> If your wife is any bit like mine, the opposition against cameras is
> basically a
> mild jealousy over the time you spend with it, instead of assisting her
> with the
> kid. :-)
Jostein's probably right. My husband has the very same issue -- but
Shaun Canning wrote:
"We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North
Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
1. Leave camera at home,
2. Leave wife and son at home,
3. Take son and leave wife,
4. Justify buying a ne
>
> From: Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/05/04 Wed AM 09:58:46 GMT
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
>
> Shaun,
>
> If your wife is any bit like mine, the opposition against cameras is
> basically a
> mild jealousy over
Shaun,
If your wife is any bit like mine, the opposition against cameras is basically a
mild jealousy over the time you spend with it, instead of assisting her with the
kid. :-)
In the long term, this will pass as the kids grow out of their diapers.
In the short term, bring the camera. You must n
Thank you all for your witty and obviously well practiced answers to my
dilemma. I'll talk the wife around...
I've managed to talk her in to everything else for the last 8 years, so I think
I can manage a camera.
The replies were funny though
Cheers
Shaun
Dr. Shaun Canning
Cultural Herit
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Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:41 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
Hi!
> We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland
> with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me
to
> take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do
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On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 08:03:13PM -0600, Joseph Tainter wrote:
> Henri:
> Take it anyway, give her the creditcard and tell her to go shopping.
>
> Godfrey:
> Do what you w
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From: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:03 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
Henri:
Take it anyway, give her the creditcard and tell her to go shopping.
Godfrey:
Do what you want.
Deal with the consequences.
On 4/5/05, Shaun Canning, discombobulated, unleashed:
>We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North
>Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
>take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
>
>1. Leave camera at home,
>2. Leave wife and son at home,
>3. Take so
On 4/5/05, Shaun Canning, discombobulated, unleashed:
>We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North
>Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
>take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
>
>1. Leave camera at home,
>2. Leave wife and son at home,
>3. Take so
>
> From: "Shaun Canning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/05/03 Tue PM 11:25:29 GMT
> To:
> Subject: Moral Dilemma
>
> We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland
> with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me
> fra: "Shaun Canning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland
> with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
> take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
>
> 1. Leave camera at home,
> 2. Leave wife and son at home,
> 3. Take son
On 5/3/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > particularly observant, you may need a little black electrical tape to
> > cover up the *ist-D logo.
>
> I believe Juan may have a bit of black tape left over that he could
> lend Shaun...
Sure. But it's *gaffers* tape, not electrical tape
- Original Message -
From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
You just became the biggest whipped man I know. Blue rare steaks, my eye!
:)
For this sacrifice, I'd be looking at a 4x5 rig for our next vacation..
William Robb
You just became the biggest whipped man I know. Blue rare steaks, my eye! :)
Tom C.
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 21:26:25 -0600
- Original Message - From: "Shaun Ca
Hi!
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland
with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
1. Leave camera at home,
2. Leave wife and son at home,
3. Take son and leave wife,
4. Justify buying a new compact digicam
- Original Message -
From: "Shaun Canning"
Subject: Moral Dilemma
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North
Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
1. Leave camera at home,
Correct answe
On 5/3/05, David Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The answer, of course, is to buy an SMC Pentax-DA 40mm f/2.8 Pancake
> lens, and a vertical grip. Those two new components will change the
> look of the *ist-D enough that you can trick her into believing you
> complied with the request of leavi
The answer, of course, is to buy an SMC Pentax-DA 40mm f/2.8 Pancake
lens, and a vertical grip. Those two new components will change the
look of the *ist-D enough that you can trick her into believing you
complied with the request of leaving your *ist-D home. If she is
particularly observant,
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 08:03:13PM -0600, Joseph Tainter wrote:
> Henri:
> Take it anyway, give her the creditcard and tell her to go shopping.
>
> Godfrey:
> Do what you want.
> Deal with the consequences.
>
> Both experienced husbands, I expect.
Tell her you'll leave the *ist-D at home if she
On 5/3/05, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> Someone needs to fix you with a chainsaw. :)
What makes you think someone hasn't already?
cheers,
frank, aka "Lefty" (former member of the Canadian Olympic Chainsaw
Juggling Team)
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"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
5. If she said you can't bring the *istD with you, sell it along with
all your lenses, to finance the purchase of a DigiRebel and a couple
of lenses, and bring those along. There's no prohibition against
that, AFAIK. In the bargain, you'll then possess a real camera, and
you'll look really reall
On 5/3/05, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1. Explain how taking the *ist D will allow for a higher quality of pictures
> of both your wife and your son.
> 2. Make her think you're doing it because SHE's important.
> 3. Explain that if you have the best tool for the job, you shold use it
> inste
On May 3, 2005, at 7:03 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
Both experienced husbands, I expect.
Experienced, yes.
Husband, no.
Godfrey
P.S. This is a strategic and tactical dilemma, not a moral one.
Joe
Henri:
Take it anyway, give her the creditcard and tell her to go shopping.
Godfrey:
Do what you want.
Deal with the consequences.
Both experienced husbands, I expect.
As another such, I suspect she is concerned that you will spend time taking
pictures rather than with her and the baby.
Tell her y
At 20:38 2005.05.03 -0400, you wrote:
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 07:25:29 +0800
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Subject: Moral Dilemma
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Do what you want.
Deal with the consequences.
G
On May 3, 2005, at 4:25 PM, Shaun Canning wrote:
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North
Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
1. Leave camera at home,
2. Lea
fails, beg.
Tom C.
From: "Shaun Canning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To:
Subject: Moral Dilemma
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 07:25:29 +0800
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland
with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not
On 4 May 2005 at 7:25, Shaun Canning wrote:
> We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland
> with
> wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to take *ist D etc. What do I
> do? Do I:
>
> 1. Leave camera at home,
> 2. Leave wife and son at home,
> 3. Take so
On 5/3/05, Shaun Canning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland
> with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
> take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
>
> 1. Leave camera at home,
> 2. Leave wife and son at home,
> 3. Tak
Shaun Canning wrote:
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland
with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
1. Leave camera at home,
2. Leave wife and son at home,
3. Take son and leave wife,
4. Justify buying a ne
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland
with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
1. Leave camera at home,
2. Leave wife and son at home,
3. Take son and leave wife,
4. Justify buying a new compact digicam be
In a message dated 1/15/2003 12:58:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> Thanks for the specimen shot. As for the distinction you make
> between "swirlies" and bokeh, I'm not sure that I agree with the
> distinction (or, to be more specific, the necessity for such a
> distinct
Fred wrote:
>
> > No, it's not just bad bokeh. Actually the bokeh isn't that bad.
>
> Thanks for the specimen shot. As for the distinction you make
> between "swirlies" and bokeh, I'm not sure that I agree with the
> distinction (or, to be more specific, the necessity for such a
> distinction)
> I can help. She's using my term for this effect seen in the leaves
> in the background: [snip] If there is an accepted term for the
> effect, I don't know it.
Thanks, Dan. I guess "swirlies" fits as well as anything - .
Fred
> No, it's not just bad bokeh. Actually the bokeh isn't that bad.
Thanks for the specimen shot. As for the distinction you make
between "swirlies" and bokeh, I'm not sure that I agree with the
distinction (or, to be more specific, the necessity for such a
distinction). To me, "swirlies" still re
In a message dated 1/14/2003 4:08:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I'd leave this bit out.
> >
> >
> > > It also takes okay pictures, not too bad, with no obvious distortions
> > > until the zoom is extended to its maximum focal leng
Oh yeah, I used to have a Vivitar 70-210/4.5 that did the same thing at the long
endmight be the same lens under a different name, the pictures of the lens look
similar.
William in Utah.
1/14/2003 11:38:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In a message dated 1/14/2003 11:02:52 AM Eastern Stand
but adequate for the student."
>
> "This is actually a pretty lousy lens, I won't lie to you, but the glass is clear
>and it will work fine for the uninformed, indiscriminating student until they know
>better."
>
> Sigh.
>
> I am beginning to think that
> I can help. She's using my term for this effect seen in the leaves in
> the background:
> http://www.shinozuka-family.com/200110autumnlux2/kittyleaves4.jpg and
> http://www.shinozuka-family.com/200110autumnlux2/tedkitleaves2.jpg (Rob
> Studdert supplied the links).
>
> If there is an accepted t
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