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Just looking at the ISO 400, the *ist D2S and DL both hold their own extremely well. Will look further later, but I think I'm impressed. Jack --- David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow. The ISO 3200 noise of the 5D is very impressive. > > Dave > > On 2/14/06, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTEC

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Rob Studdert wrote on 14.02.06 2:29: > PS They are large files but do check out 1:1 comparison of the shots from the > D200 and 5D, sensor pixel pitch makes all the difference. Hmmm... noise from D200 is obviously more visible, but Nikon evidently implemented clever in-camera colour noise removal,

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Wow. The ISO 3200 noise of the 5D is very impressive. Dave On 2/14/06, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 14 Feb 2006 at 11:09, pentax-discuss@pdml.net wrote: > > > And if you would like to see comparison images from most of the current > > cameras > > at high ISO see: > > > > http://d

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On 14 Feb 2006 at 11:09, pentax-discuss@pdml.net wrote: > And if you would like to see comparison images from most of the current > cameras > at high ISO see: > > http://digitalcamera.impress.co.jp/06_02/auth/toku1/index_iso.htm PS They are large files but do check out 1:1 comparison of the sh

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On 13 Feb 2006 at 18:18, Jens Bladt wrote: > I do know that film used to be even worse. But that was yesterday. Talking > about the new high end Pentax DSLR is now! Jens there are physical limits WRT noise minimization and we are nearly there on the physical side, there will be new methods of fi

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2006 21:24 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: New High End DSLR Speculation On Feb 13, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: > It is perhaps true, that more exposure reduces the noice - I never > thought > of that - didn't know. Rather, underexposure increases noise. Your shots

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On Feb 13, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: It is perhaps true, that more exposure reduces the noice - I never thought of that - didn't know. Rather, underexposure increases noise. Your shots are slightly underexposed. Overexposing in order to reduce noise, will still require even

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prindelig meddelelse- Fra: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 13. februar 2006 19:24 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: New High End DSLR Speculation Jens I see nothing wrong with these photos that a half-stop more exposure wouldn't cure. They seem to be sligh

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Jens I see nothing wrong with these photos that a half-stop more exposure wouldn't cure. They seem to be slightly flat and underexposed, exaggerating the noise characteristics. Were they originally captured in RAW or JPEG format? If RAW format was used, I'd have given them a +0.7EV compen

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d Pentax DSLR is now! Regards Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 12. februar 2006 01:44 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: New High End DSLR Speculation Jens, I've found that in decent light the *istD

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e. But that was yesterday. Talking about the new high end Pentax DSLR is now! Regards Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 12. februar 2006 01:44 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: New High End DSLR Speculatio

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On 11 Feb 2006 at 19:43, Adam Maas wrote: > Jens, > > I've found that in decent light the *istD has about as much noise at > 3200 as NPZ800 has grain, in low light it gets worse, but it never > exceeds ISO3200 speed films (which are noticably worse). Because of > that, I have come to the concl

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prindelig meddelelse- Fra: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 11. februar 2006 22:58 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: New High End DSLR Speculation OK, we have very different opinions about what's required in the way of DOF to make a "good" photograph. There ar

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d) from a future high end Pentax DSLR. Is this really too much to ask? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 11. februar 2006 22:58 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: New High End DSLR Speculation OK, we hav

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Some time ago, a photographer tried to do that to Berlusconi. For some reason, he didn't succeed. Dario - Original Message - From: "Bob Shell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:06 PM Subject: Re: New High End DSLR Speculation On

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On Feb 11, 2006, at 5:00 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: A tripod won't stop the subject from moving, though. Upside the head hard enough and a tripod WILL stop a subject from moving. Bob

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llow DOF for portraits > etc.) > No problem. They can get what they want. > Why can't I? > Regards > Jens > > Jens Bladt > http://www.jensbladt.dk > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Derby Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt: 11. februar 2006 20

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t; > Jens Bladt > http://www.jensbladt.dk > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt: 11. februar 2006 15:22 > Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Emne: RE: New High End DSLR Speculation > > > At first read, that seems

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Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Derby Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 11. februar 2006 20:10 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: New High End DSLR Speculation And sometimes, a subject that one would think needs deep DOF, actually doesn't. Here are s

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ent (like shallow DOF for portraits etc.) No problem. They can get what they want. Why can't I? Regards Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Derby Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 11. februar 2006 20:10 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: New H

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Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 11. februar 2006 16:23 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: New High End DSLR Speculation Jens Bladt wrote: >I would like a camera with which I can take pictures like this (ISO >1600-3200), but without all the noice (I don't like flash photograp

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% of all photographs at F.8- F. 11 if I my gear would allow me to. Regards Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 11. februar 2006 15:22 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: New High End DSLR Speculation

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And sometimes, a subject that one would think needs deep DOF, actually doesn't. Here are some real aerial photos taken with a tilt shift lens to simulate shallow DOF. I think they are beautiful http://www.metropolismag.com/cda/story.php?artid=1760 D Paul Stenquist wrote: Sensor size or film

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Jens Bladt wrote: I would like a camera with which I can take pictures like this (ISO 1600-3200), but without all the noice (I don't like flash photography a lot): http://www.jensbladt.dk/Bedste-dag-album/index.html (Pentax * ist D, scm Pentax-M 4/75-150mm) This was yesterdays "Grandparents Da

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Sensor size or film size will affect DOF for a given angle of view. APS-C will actually provide more DOF at a given angle of view than 35mm. Of course, Shel is right here, despite his lack of coffee . Some photos are best executed with minimal DOF. Others will benefit from deep DOF. It's al a m

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At first read, that seems to be a most inane statement, but maybe there's more to it than my pre morning coffee brain can understand. Perhaps you can elaborate upon it, specifically, why is a certain range of DOF important for "good" photographs, what is a good photograph, and what does sensor or

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ces in order to get high quality photographs in doors. Is that really too much to ask? Regards Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 11. februar 2006 12:37 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: New High End DSLR Spe

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elig meddelelse- > Fra: dick graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt: 9. februar 2006 21:53 > Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Emne: New High End DSLR Speculation > > > > Let the speculation start now. This site thrives on second guessing > upcoming Pentax products

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t; at may grand daughteres creche (the blond girl with the "pink" jersey). Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: dick graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 9. februar 2006 21:53 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: New High End DSLR Speculation Let

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On Feb 11, 2006, at 6:52 AM, Christian wrote: What else do you call the little wheelie thing on the front that allows you to "dial" the "shutter speed"? I thought the whole world had moved to touch-tone by now :) - Dave

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Bob Shell wrote: On Feb 10, 2006, at 11:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wankels run great, but they're expensive to produce and not particularly fuel efficient. Paul Yeah, and they make the motor drive for the camera too damned big. Bob but, oh, that frame rate...

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You wish ;) 2006/2/10, Steve Jolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thibouille wrote: > > That being said they suspect that the Schneider-Kreuznach serie lenses > > would be manufactured by Tamron (and they guess the actual Pentax > > 18-55 could be too <- I don't beleive this one). It would be > > interest

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Thibouille wrote: That being said they suspect that the Schneider-Kreuznach serie lenses would be manufactured by Tamron (and they guess the actual Pentax 18-55 could be too <- I don't beleive this one). It would be interesting to know more about that. Well there's that 6,700sqm (soon to be 12,

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> I didn't think I would like the control wheel interface, being used > to the more traditional film camera control layout. It's one of the > reasons I eschewed the entire PZ camera series, but was willing to > buy an MZ body. The istD forced the interface on me as part of the > price of admiss

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- Original Message - From: "Christian" Subject: Re: New High End DSLR Speculation oh and give us a shutter speed dial as well! My *ist D (and current 20D) do have shutter speed dials... What else do you call the little wheelie thing on the front that allows you to &

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In their latest news about Pentax (which was about Pentax ist-dl2 and Samsungs GX series) Chasseur d'Images (usually well informed) say it is quite clear they will soon announce a DSLR base on the 10Mpix Sony CCD (same as D200). They don't mention AS at all. That being said they suspect that the

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William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Scott Loveless" Subject: Re: New High End DSLR Speculation Since then, I've owned a Miata, and she ran great! I always thought Mazda missed by not puttung a Wankel into the miata. Yntil they introduced the RX-8, a

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On 9 Feb 2006 at 22:13, John Whittingham wrote: oh and give us a shutter speed dial as well! My *ist D (and current 20D) do have shutter speed dials... What else do you call the little wheelie thing on the front that allows you to "dial" the "shutter speed"? -- Christian http://photogra

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kids are out of their baby seats, we're getting an RX-8. I can't wait. On 2/10/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Loveless" > Subject: Re: New High End DSLR Speculation > > > > > > Since

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- Original Message - From: "Jon Myers" Subject: Re: New High End DSLR Speculation And I thought the Winder LX attached to its namesake body made for a rather huge and heavy camera. ;) You've obviously never held a motor driven Nikon F2 William Robb

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ect: Re: New High End DSLR Speculation > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: New High End DSLR Speculation > > > > Wankels run great, but they're expensive to produce and not particularly > > fuel efficient. &g

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And I thought the Winder LX attached to its namesake body made for a rather huge and heavy camera. ;) --- Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Feb 10, 2006, at 11:15 AM, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Wankels run great, but they're expensive to > produce and not > > particularly fu

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On Feb 10, 2006, at 11:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wankels run great, but they're expensive to produce and not particularly fuel efficient. Paul Yeah, and they make the motor drive for the camera too damned big. Bob

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- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: New High End DSLR Speculation Wankels run great, but they're expensive to produce and not particularly fuel efficient. I've owned two Wankel powered cars. Fuel efficiency is not part of their claim t

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Wankels run great, but they're expensive to produce and not particularly fuel efficient. Paul -- Original message -- From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Loveless" >

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- Original Message - From: "Scott Loveless" Subject: Re: New High End DSLR Speculation Since then, I've owned a Miata, and she ran great! I always thought Mazda missed by not puttung a Wankel into the miata. Yntil they introduced the RX-8, anyway. William Robb

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It's them damnable Lucas electrical components I tells ya: Dave On 2/10/06, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I test drove an MGB back in 93 or 94. It was mostly baby blue with > some brown spots and needed a new top. It's owner said "she runs > great!"

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ling for a tow truck. Since then, I've owned a Miata, and she ran great! On 2/10/06, Steve Jolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message ----- From: "dick graham" > > Subject: New High End DSLR Speculation > >> > >

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William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "dick graham" Subject: New High End DSLR Speculation >> Let the speculation start now. This site thrives on second guessing upcoming Pentax products. Now we also thrive on second guessing Pentax's business practice

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> I'd prefer to see it and I wouldn't mind a slightly larger camera > body but Pentax seem to currently be fixated on small, maybe they've > shaken it maybe they haven't, only time (18 months or so) will tell. Yes me too, sorry I was a bit abrupt with my previous post. I'd prefer image stabilis

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Rob Studdert wrote on 09.02.06 23:53: > The only problem with that scenario is that the relatively substantial > increase > in body size required to implement in-camera 2D sensor shifting would run > counter to their interest in producing the most compact DSLR bodies in the > market. KM 5D is sti

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On 9 Feb 2006 at 22:13, John Whittingham wrote: > > The only problem with that scenario is that the relatively > > substantial increase in body size required to implement in-camera 2D > > sensor shifting would run counter to their interest in producing the > > most compact DSLR bodies in the ma

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the D, but need some improvements, before I want to buy a new DSLR. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 9. februar 2006 22:04 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: New High End DSLR Speculation - Origin

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> The only problem with that scenario is that the relatively > substantial increase in body size required to implement in-camera 2D > sensor shifting would run counter to their interest in producing the > most compact DSLR bodies in the market. Who gives a toss, I'd be happy with something the

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On 9 Feb 2006 at 14:52, dick graham wrote: > Let the speculation start now. This site thrives on second guessing > upcoming Pentax products. It seems very likely that it will be an 8 meg > camera with image stabilization, seeing that the new point & shoot A-10 > offers these specs. The only

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I agree. Pentax's most recent innovation is the backward-sloping top plate. It didn't exactly set the world alight, did it? They could have given the world its first ttl spot metering camera back in the Sixties but backed off (while confusingly naming it the Spotmatic). If they produce a ful

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At 03:03 PM 2/9/2006 -0600, you wrote: - Original Message - From: "dick graham" Subject: New High End DSLR Speculation Or lack thereof. DG Let the speculation start now. This site thrives on second guessing upcoming Pentax products. Now we also thrive

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- Original Message - From: "dick graham" Subject: New High End DSLR Speculation Let the speculation start now. This site thrives on second guessing upcoming Pentax products. Now we also thrive on second guessing Pentax's business practices and ethics. William Robb

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- Original Message - From: "dick graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Let the speculation start now. This site thrives on second guessing upcoming Pentax products. It seems very likely that it will be an 8 meg camera with image stabilization, seeing that the new point & shoot A-10 offers t

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Let the speculation start now. This site thrives on second guessing upcoming Pentax products. It seems very likely that it will be an 8 meg camera with image stabilization, seeing that the new point & shoot A-10 offers these specs. It will have a Samsung sensor and, hopefully, a much impro