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2015-09-03 Thread P.J. Alling
You could be right about that. Memory is a strange thing, but the irony is still there. On 9/3/2015 1:36 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: PJ, Wasn't it the other way around? Krupp paid Sheffield for every shell they fired. in WWI. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:54 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

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2015-09-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
PJ, Wasn't it the other way around? Krupp paid Sheffield for every shell they fired. in WWI. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:54 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > The British in WWI used a Krupp designed fuse under license, on their > artillery shells. Every one of those shells that the Briti

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2015-09-02 Thread P.J. Alling
The British in WWI used a Krupp designed fuse under license, on their artillery shells. Every one of those shells that the British fired at the Germans resulted in a payment to an escrow account to be paid to Krupp at the end of hostilities. A bit of irony there. On 9/2/2015 12:33 AM, John w

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2015-09-01 Thread John
That was kind of my point, that most of the support U.S. companies have been criticized for giving Hitler happened before the war. The companies profited from their German subsidiaries in the period between when Britain, France & Germany went to war, but once the U.S. entered the war, they had no

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2015-09-01 Thread Ken Waller
l Message- >From: Knarf >Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! > >How 60 Minutes didn't get sued is beyond me. Their little "dramatization" was >not only staged but it didn't depict the situation accurately. > >Cheers, > >frank > >On 1 September, 2015

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2015-09-01 Thread Knarf
How 60 Minutes didn't get sued is beyond me. Their little "dramatization" was not only staged but it didn't depict the situation accurately. Cheers, frank On 1 September, 2015 4:15:39 PM EDT, Larry Colen wrote: > > >Ken Waller wrote: >>> I bet Audi wish they had black boxes in the 80s... >> >

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2015-09-01 Thread Knarf
ennethwaller > >- Original Message ----- >From: "Knarf" >Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! > > >>I bet Audi wish they had black boxes in the 80s... >> >> Cheers, >> >> frank >> >> On 1 September, 2015 2:11:57 PM EDT, Ken Waller &g

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2015-09-01 Thread Larry Colen
Ken Waller wrote: I bet Audi wish they had black boxes in the 80s... I bet they wish they had handled the entire unintended acceleration issue differently... Sixty minutes sure did a hack job on them. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail Li

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2015-09-01 Thread Ken Waller
I bet Audi wish they had black boxes in the 80s... I bet they wish they had handled the entire unintended acceleration issue differently... Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Knarf" Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo!

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2015-09-01 Thread Knarf
re >the >driver states he was pressing the brake pedal when the data shown >otherwisw. > >Kenneth Waller >http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > >- Original Message - >From: "Bob W-PDML" >Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! > > >> That case

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2015-09-01 Thread Ken Waller
access the data. Black boxes are great in unintended acceleration cases especially where the driver states he was pressing the brake pedal when the data shown otherwisw. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Bob W-PDML"

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2015-09-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Much of this of course was in the mid 1930s when the world was still not sure what to think of Hitler. The British were initially supportive as well, and companies from around the world traded with Germany. Paul via phone > On Sep 1, 2015, at 9:05 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > >> On Mon, Au

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2015-09-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 11:03 PM, John wrote: > US Steel, Ford, General Motors and IBM were all investors in Germany And Joe Kennedy Sr was one of Germany's greatest admirers. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pd

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2015-08-31 Thread David Mann
On Aug 31, 2015, at 10:27 pm, mike wilson wrote: > The biggest urban hazard here is broken glass from those tiny beer > bottles. I was spending more on bicycle tyres in one year than I ever > spent on motorcycle tyres over a similar period. I was getting punctures all the time on my commute unt

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2015-08-31 Thread John
US Steel, Ford, General Motors and IBM were all investors in Germany in the 20s & 30s. With Germany essentially bankrupted by the Treaty of Versailles, there was a lot of money to be made there. I'm not sure how much actual control an American headquarters was able to exercise over German subsidi

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2015-08-31 Thread John
On 8/31/2015 7:46 PM, Bill wrote: On 31/08/2015 8:01 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: On the whole, that's an exceedingly bad idea. Whose time is coming. I'm likely won't be around to see it. With computer controlled anti lock breaks, and computer controlled cruse control, and most every modern car hav

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2015-08-31 Thread Bill
On 31/08/2015 1:27 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Corporations that kill their customers don't make much profit in the long run, but Rogue Governments, are perfectly willing to kill millions to make a point. Based on your statement WWII was a fight between US Steel and Krup with Germany and the US as pr

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2015-08-31 Thread Bill
On 31/08/2015 8:01 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: On the whole, that's an exceedingly bad idea. Whose time is coming. I'm likely won't be around to see it. With computer controlled anti lock breaks, and computer controlled cruse control, and most every modern car having it's owned assigned IP address

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2015-08-31 Thread John
Which is why all the banksters went to jail for the swindles that wrecked the economy in 2008 & Glass-Steagall is once again the law of the land here in the USofA. On 8/31/2015 5:03 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: That case was nearly 50 years ago; since that time consumer power has changed dramatically,

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2015-08-31 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 31/8/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: >anyone who thinks that the risks of the imperfect software coupled with >a bloody big Stop! button in every car outweigh the benefits of saving >upwards of 1,000,000 lives per year lost as the result of human errors >must be barking mad. Well,

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2015-08-31 Thread Bob W-PDML
That case was nearly 50 years ago; since that time consumer power has changed dramatically, and so has the availability of evidence. Self-driven cars will record all the variables that they monitor and control, and there will be a blackbox recorder like on a plane, which will be amenable to inde

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2015-08-31 Thread John
Do you remember the Ford Pinto with the faulty gas tanks? http://www.autosafety.org/uploads/phpq3mJ7F_FordMemo.pdf Do you think the manufacturers of self-driving cars will be any more ethical? Will they put passenger safety ahead of profit? On 8/31/2015 3:25 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 31 Aug 201

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2015-08-31 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:03 PM, John wrote: > FWIW, the "self kicking machine" is still there in "Croatan - 10 Miles > East of NEW BERN, N.C." as you're driving into Havelock on US70. Havelock is precisely where I was headed! At the time, we live in government housing adjacent to the Marine Cor

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2015-08-31 Thread John
Yeah, but that was back in the 60s when I-95 ended at Rocky Mount, and US301 & US70 were both two lane roads. I remember trips from Durham, NC to Morehead City (Atlantic Beach) in the 60s when US70 between Kinston & New Bern might as well have been on the back side of the moon as far as finding a

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2015-08-31 Thread P.J. Alling
Having worked on large software projects, the answer is, yes. I doubt very much the people designing this have taken the risks into account. As with Blue Tooth security will be added on after the fact. In fact that seems to be the model that Chrysler is following. On 8/31/2015 3:25 PM, Bob

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2015-08-31 Thread P.J. Alling
Corporations that kill their customers don't make much profit in the long run, but Rogue Governments, are perfectly willing to kill millions to make a point. Based on your statement WWII was a fight between US Steel and Krup with Germany and the US as proxies. On 8/31/2015 3:22 PM, John wrot

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2015-08-31 Thread Ken Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "John" Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! According to some, a homicide by remote vehicle control already happened in the death of Michael Hastings. Hastings was killed when he lost control & crashed a 2013 Mercedes C250 at high s

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2015-08-31 Thread Bob W-PDML
Probably best if we don't even try then. I'll phone Sergei Brin and tell him to stop the programme. B > On 31 Aug 2015, at 20:22, John wrote: > > If the hackers can figure out a way for corporations to make a profit > from it, yeah I believe they would. > >> On 8/31/2015 12:08 PM, Bob W-PDML

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2015-08-31 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 31 Aug 2015, at 20:10, John wrote: > > According to some, [...] those who deny that it is possible are wrong. > > http://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/ > > [...] The conspiracy folks [...] > Do you really, really think that the people who are designing this stuff

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2015-08-31 Thread John
If the hackers can figure out a way for corporations to make a profit from it, yeah I believe they would. On 8/31/2015 12:08 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: Do you think the hackers will be killing 1.24 million people per year? http://www.who.int/gho/road_safety/mortality/en/ B On 31 Aug 2015, at 15:1

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2015-08-31 Thread John
On 8/31/2015 10:29 AM, Knarf wrote: Well something has to be done. People driving cars kill tens of thousands each year. If it was a disease it would be a pandemic. And that's not even considering the thousands and thousands of premature deaths caused by pollution from the actual driving of auto

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2015-08-31 Thread Ken Waller
- From: "Bob W-PDML" Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! I like driving. The last car I owned was an MG B Roadster, but the times I got to actually enjoy it were so few and far between that the hassles massively outweighed the pleasures. Utility driving - which is probably 99% of car use for m

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2015-08-31 Thread John
a great way to relax and enjoy the countryside - can't put a dollar value on that. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Bob W-PDML" Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! On 30 Aug 2015, at 10:52, Malcolm Smith wrote: Bob W wr

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2015-08-31 Thread Ken Waller
Message- >From: Bob W-PDML >Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! > >Obviously once they've ironed the bugs out self-driving cars will be allowed >to kill hipsters. In fact, they'll be encouraged. > >B > >> On 31 Aug 2015, at 18:08, John wrote: >> >&

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2015-08-31 Thread P.J. Alling
Actually I did the same thing with my Karrmann Ghia, it would have worked with any Type 1 VW, but my accelerator cable broke at a stop light. A friendly policeman, yes they were friendly back then, helped me push it to the side of the road. On examination the break was luckily at the carburet

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2015-08-31 Thread Bob W-PDML
t;>> 99% of car use for most people - is just a huge pain in the arse. >>>>> >>>>> And as for the countryside, it is of course mass car use that is >>>>> destroying it - the pleasure of driving in it has a high cost. I get far >>>>>

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2015-08-31 Thread P.J. Alling
id from driving in it B On 31 Aug 2015, at 01:00, Ken Waller wrote: I find driving a car, especially a well handling, responsive car, to be almost therapeutic and a great way to relax and enjoy the countryside - can't put a dollar value on that. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.

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2015-08-31 Thread Bob W-PDML
They're either not real programmers, or not real hipsters. Real hipsters work in media. I should know. I'm an ex-programmer who works in London's media/hipster hub. (Although not, thank God, actually in media). B > On 31 Aug 2015, at 18:33, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Bob W-PDML wrote: > >>

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2015-08-31 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W-PDML wrote: >Obviously once they've ironed the bugs out self-driving cars will be allowed >to kill hipsters. In fact, they'll be encouraged. I'm not so sure about that. A lot of programmers I know are hipsters... -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PD

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2015-08-31 Thread Bob W-PDML
Obviously once they've ironed the bugs out self-driving cars will be allowed to kill hipsters. In fact, they'll be encouraged. B > On 31 Aug 2015, at 18:08, John wrote: > > They've still got a ways to go yet. > > http://www.businessinsider.com/google-self-driving-cars-get-confused-by-hipster

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2015-08-31 Thread John
- can't put a dollar value on that. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Bob W-PDML" Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! On 30 Aug 2015, at 10:52, Malcolm Smith wrote: Bob W wrote: And then there are all the other costs t

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2015-08-31 Thread John
C once in the time I lived in N. J. - it was a big mistake, and the was at least 50 years ago. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message ----- From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Ken Wal

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2015-08-31 Thread Bob W-PDML
;>> B >>> >>> >>>> On 31 Aug 2015, at 01:00, Ken Waller wrote: >>>> >>>> I find driving a car, especially a well handling, responsive car, to be >>>> almost therapeutic and a great way to relax and enjoy the countryside - &

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2015-08-31 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 31 Aug 2015, at 14:11, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >> I like driving. The last car I owned was an MG B Roadster, but the times I >> got to actually enjoy it were so few and far between that the hassles >> massively outweighed the pleasur

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2015-08-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 31, 2015, at 7:29 AM, Knarf wrote: > > ... So far nothing has persuaded us out of our cars. Either we'll be > legislated out of them or we'll hit peak oil and then it'll all be over. ... It is sometimes comforting to realize that cars aren't even as old as photography, that neither have

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2015-08-31 Thread Knarf
s of course mass car use that is >destroying it - the pleasure of driving in it has a high cost. I get >far more enjoyment from cycling and walking in the countryside than I >ever did from driving in it >>> >>> B >>> >>> >>>>

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2015-08-31 Thread P.J. Alling
rote: I find driving a car, especially a well handling, responsive car, to be almost therapeutic and a great way to relax and enjoy the countryside - can't put a dollar value on that. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "

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2015-08-31 Thread Knarf
AND WINE! I always thought that the most amazing part of this photo is that he caught the large fellow on the left in perfect mid-pour. Decisive Moment, indeed! Cheers, frank On 31 August, 2015 7:03:13 AM EDT, Steve Cottrell wrote: >On 31/8/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: > >http

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2015-08-31 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > I like driving. The last car I owned was an MG B Roadster, but the times I > got to actually enjoy it were so few and far between that the hassles > massively outweighed the pleasures. I love to drive my MG B, back in my younger days. It wa

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2015-08-31 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 31/8/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.cours-photographie.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/henri- cartier-bresson2.jpg Boats and food - what's not to like?? :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _

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2015-08-31 Thread mike wilson
On 31 August 2015 at 09:54, Bob W-PDML wrote: > On 31 Aug 2015, at 09:14, mike wilson wrote: I'm fortunate that there are loads of back ways and paths for cycling locally, as nearer the kerb on the roads (locally) is mountain bike territory. >>> >>> Agreed. It's extraordinary

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2015-08-31 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 31 Aug 2015, at 10:27, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 31/8/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> It's extraordinary to compare French and British roads in this respect. >> The French ones, even deep in the remotest countryside, are superb. > > That's because the French spend a lot l

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2015-08-31 Thread Steve Cottrell
Totally agree with this. If you think of road traffic deaths numbers per year in terms of air crashes (eg one plane say carrying 300 people) then even here in the UK we're looking at about a plane a month. If planes were falling from the skies at that rate, there would be outrage. Manual control

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2015-08-31 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 31/8/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: >It's extraordinary to compare French and British roads in this respect. >The French ones, even deep in the remotest countryside, are superb. That's because the French spend a lot less time driving and a lot more time eating. -- Cheers, Co

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2015-08-31 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 31 Aug 2015, at 09:14, mike wilson wrote: >>> >>> I'm fortunate that there are loads of back ways and paths for cycling >>> locally, as nearer the kerb on the roads (locally) is mountain bike >>> territory. >> >> Agreed. It's extraordinary to compare French and British roads in this >> respe

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2015-08-31 Thread mike wilson
On 31 August 2015 at 08:45, Bob W-PDML wrote: > On 31 Aug 2015, at 08:24, Malcolm Smith wrote: >> >> Bob W wrote: >> >>> If you think digital cameras have been revolutionary, you ain't seen >>> nothin' yet. >> >> In 30+ years of motoring with all the so called improvements in technology >> to car

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2015-08-31 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 31 Aug 2015, at 08:24, Malcolm Smith wrote: > > Bob W wrote: > >> If you think digital cameras have been revolutionary, you ain't seen >> nothin' yet. > > In 30+ years of motoring with all the so called improvements in technology > to cars and the infrastructure, the one thing that is shamef

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2015-08-31 Thread Malcolm Smith
Bob W wrote: > If you think digital cameras have been revolutionary, you ain't seen > nothin' yet. In 30+ years of motoring with all the so called improvements in technology to cars and the infrastructure, the one thing that is shameful is the standard of the road surface. If anything, this has d

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2015-08-30 Thread Bob W-PDML
n that. >> >> Kenneth Waller >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >> >> - Original Message - From: "Bob W-PDML" >> Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! >> >> >>>> On 30 Aug 2015, at 10:52, Malcolm Smith wrote: &g

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2015-08-30 Thread Bob W-PDML
- From: "Bob W-PDML" > Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! > > >>> On 30 Aug 2015, at 10:52, Malcolm Smith wrote: >>> >>> Bob W wrote: >>> >>>> And then there are all the other costs that car ownership entails. >>>> >

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2015-08-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
e always concerned about the vehicle I was driving. > > > -Original Message- >> From: Paul Stenquist >> Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! >> >> I drove into NYC hundreds, perhaps thousands of times when I lived in >> Jersey, 1980 to 1992. Not a problem.

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2015-08-30 Thread Ken Waller
You probably had an assigned parking spot. To me driving in NYC was like mobile combat. A totally defensive way of driving. Of course always concerned about the vehicle I was driving. -Original Message- >From: Paul Stenquist >Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! > >I drove into N

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2015-08-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
s ago. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" > Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! > > >>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Ken Waller wrote: >>> I find driving a

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2015-08-30 Thread Ken Waller
/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Ken Waller wrote: I find driving a car, especially a well handling, responsive car, to be almost therapeutic and a great way to relax and enjoy the countryside -

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2015-08-30 Thread Ken Waller
Bob W-PDML" Subject: Re: OT: Woo Hoo! On 30 Aug 2015, at 10:52, Malcolm Smith wrote: Bob W wrote: And then there are all the other costs that car ownership entails. Owning a car is a modern form of slavery. Getting rid of mine was on a par with giving up smoking as far as feeling liberat

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2015-08-30 Thread John
On 8/30/2015 12:54 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 29 Aug 2015, at 21:56, John wrote: On 8/29/2015 4:19 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 29 Aug 2015, at 21:15, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 29/8/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: I don't think I've bought any petrol since at least 2004. I buy abo

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2015-08-30 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 30 Aug 2015, at 10:52, Malcolm Smith wrote: > > Bob W wrote: > >> And then there are all the other costs that car ownership entails. >> >> Owning a car is a modern form of slavery. Getting rid of mine was on a >> par with giving up smoking as far as feeling liberated is concerned. > > [...]

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2015-08-30 Thread Malcolm Smith
Bob W wrote: > And then there are all the other costs that car ownership entails. > > Owning a car is a modern form of slavery. Getting rid of mine was on a > par with giving up smoking as far as feeling liberated is concerned. I'm not ready to give up ownership yet. I have a nine seat vehicle w

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2015-08-29 Thread Bob W-PDML
That's beautiful! I should use some of my petrol money to buy a starburst filter! ;0) B > On 29 Aug 2015, at 22:21, Knarf wrote: > > Preach to me, Brother Bob! > > http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/06/toward-city.html?m=1 > > Cheers, > > Cycle-boy > >> On 29 August, 2015 4:19:20 PM ED

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2015-08-29 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 29 Aug 2015, at 21:56, John wrote: > >> On 8/29/2015 4:19 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >>> On 29 Aug 2015, at 21:15, Steve Cottrell wrote: >>> >>> On 29/8/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: >>> I don't think I've bought any petrol since at least 2004. >>> >>> I buy about 4 to 500 qu

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2015-08-29 Thread Knarf
Preach to me, Brother Bob! http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/06/toward-city.html?m=1 Cheers, Cycle-boy On 29 August, 2015 4:19:20 PM EDT, Bob W-PDML wrote: >On 29 Aug 2015, at 21:15, Steve Cottrell wrote: >> >> On 29/8/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >>> I don't think I'

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2015-08-29 Thread John
On 8/29/2015 4:19 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 29 Aug 2015, at 21:15, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 29/8/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: I don't think I've bought any petrol since at least 2004. I buy about 4 to 500 quid of diesel a month :-( Roll on 2018. And then there are all the

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2015-08-29 Thread John
Yeah, but you live in a place where the city buses won't run over you if you try to get around on a bicycle. On 8/29/2015 4:12 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: I don't think I've bought any petrol since at least 2004. B On 29 Aug 2015, at 21:06, John wrote: Had to fill up my tank today & gas was $1.9

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2015-08-29 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 29/8/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: >And then there are all the other costs that car ownership entails. > >Owning a car is a modern form of slavery. Getting rid of mine was on a >par with giving up smoking as far as feeling liberated is concerned. Oh tell me about it! Insurance

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2015-08-29 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 29 Aug 2015, at 21:15, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 29/8/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> I don't think I've bought any petrol since at least 2004. > > I buy about 4 to 500 quid of diesel a month :-( > > Roll on 2018. > And then there are all the other costs that car owner

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2015-08-29 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 29/8/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: >I don't think I've bought any petrol since at least 2004. I buy about 4 to 500 quid of diesel a month :-( Roll on 2018. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- ___

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2015-08-29 Thread Bob W-PDML
I don't think I've bought any petrol since at least 2004. B > On 29 Aug 2015, at 21:06, John wrote: > > Had to fill up my tank today & gas was $1.959/gallon. > > The last time I found gas for under $2.00/gallon in North Carolina was > April 2009. > > For that matter, there are certain places

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2015-08-29 Thread John
Had to fill up my tank today & gas was $1.959/gallon. The last time I found gas for under $2.00/gallon in North Carolina was April 2009. For that matter, there are certain places in Virginia & South Carolina that I always look for cheap gas when I'm traveling (because SC & VA have a lower gas ta

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2006-01-06 Thread David Savage
On 1/6/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Yeah. Like when they get kicked in the shin and fall to the ground > >clutching there head. > > > >:-) > > > >I remember seeing that at the last World Cup. > > Must've been a Brazillian! Yep. > Actually they all will roll a dozen times across the box

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2006-01-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/1/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: >On 1/6/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In the UK, there's a lot of acting skill as well ;-))) >> >> > >Yeah. Like when they get kicked in the shin and fall to the ground >clutching there head. > >:-) > >I remember seeing that at the las

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-06 Thread Cotty
On 5/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: >It would be quite simple to broadcast soccer in a very effective format >that alternated between wide shots and tight shots. Broadcasting >American football poses many of the same problems. Hockey and basketball >production techniques are

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/5/2006 7:28:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 1/6/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the UK, there's a lot of acting skill as well ;-))) > > Yeah. Like when they get kicked in the shin and fall to the ground clutching there head. :-) I remembe

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread David Savage
On 1/6/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the UK, there's a lot of acting skill as well ;-))) > > Yeah. Like when they get kicked in the shin and fall to the ground clutching there head. :-) I remember seeing that at the last World Cup. Dave

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread frank theriault
On 1/5/06, John Munro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thanks, Frank, it's wonderful to have the acquaintance of a gentleman and > scholar such as yourself! It seems that I'm neither a gentleman nor a scholar. Rather, I'm a testosterone-laden knuckle dragger of the lowest order. Which is fine

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread cbwaters
But my wife is the avid (not *quite* rabbid) football fan at my house... Oh dear. Cory used to watch a lot of football but WORKED his 100th NFL game last weekend - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Football is a violent nasty sport only enjoyed by those loaded up w

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread John Munro
Frank Theriault wrote: "Congratulations Longhorns, and to the entire State of Texas. It was a hard fought and deserving victory. The king is dead, long live the king!" Thanks, Frank, it's wonderful to have the acquaintance of a gentleman and scholar such as yourself! Best Regards - John

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread E.R.N. Reed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/4/2006 10:42:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For those who like American style football, the college national championship just ended and the University of Texas Longhorns won by 3 point over the University of Southern Cal

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/1/06, Bob Shell, discombobulated, unleashed: >lots of US kids are learning the game. A >really good soccer match has an elegance to it, almost like watching >ballet. In the UK, there's a lot of acting skill as well ;-))) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pas

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread pnstenquist
It would be quite simple to broadcast soccer in a very effective format that alternated between wide shots and tight shots. Broadcasting American football poses many of the same problems. Hockey and basketball production techniques are also relevant. However, broadcasting soccer would require a

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread Bob Shell
On Jan 5, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Gonz wrote: Thats exactly it. American media have not figured out a way to slice it up, or for that matter, to show it better than the super wide angle shot you normally see when you turn on a soccer match. I love the sport, and play it when I can, but its ha

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread frank theriault
On 1/5/06, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 5, 2006, at 12:37 PM, frank theriault wrote: > > > I never figured out why lacrosse didn't make it as a major league > > sport - it's great to watch on TV. > > > Same reason soccer -- real football -- didn't. Not enough timeouts > for the c

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread Gonz
Bob Shell wrote: On Jan 5, 2006, at 12:37 PM, frank theriault wrote: I never figured out why lacrosse didn't make it as a major league sport - it's great to watch on TV. Same reason soccer -- real football -- didn't. Not enough timeouts for the commercials. Thats exactly it. Americ

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread Bob Shell
On Jan 5, 2006, at 12:37 PM, frank theriault wrote: I never figured out why lacrosse didn't make it as a major league sport - it's great to watch on TV. Same reason soccer -- real football -- didn't. Not enough timeouts for the commercials. Bob

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread frank theriault
On 1/5/06, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For real excitement, men's lacrosse. All the action of Soccer, the > brutality of rugby, but the participants are armed with clubs... Yup. Lacrosse is not a sport for little girly-boys, that's for sure. I love box lacrosse - played in a hocke

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread Bob Shell
On Jan 5, 2006, at 11:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Football is a violent nasty sport only enjoyed by those loaded up with testosterone. My doctor says my testosterone level is normal, but I still despise "football". For that matter, real football is what USians call soccer. Bob

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread Gonz
frank theriault wrote: On 1/5/06, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For those who like American style football, the college national championship just ended and the University of Texas Longhorns won by 3 point over the University of Southern California. Hook 'em Horns! rg HOOK 'EM HORNS!!

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/4/2006 10:42:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For those who like American style football, the college national championship just ended and the University of Texas Longhorns won by 3 point over the University of Southern Cal

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread P. J. Alling
For real excitement, men's lacrosse. All the action of Soccer, the brutality of rugby, but the participants are armed with clubs... David Savage wrote: My preference of football codes goes: 1) Australian Rules 2) Rugby Union 3) Soccer Though the most excited I've got watching any of the abo

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Their measure of excitement, "upset frequency", is suspect. Cotty wrote: On 4/1/06, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed: For those who like American style football, the college national championship just ended and the University of Texas Longhorns won by 3 point over the University of Southe

Re: OT: woo hoo Texas wins!

2006-01-05 Thread frank theriault
On 1/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Football is a violent nasty sport only enjoyed by those loaded up with > testosterone. ...and you're point is? -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

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