Stan,
Reduce the picture's dimensions with re-size.
Apply some un-sharp mask correction.
Make sure the size is small enough.
The picture is never as good as what you have a home,
but it's what you can share!
Regards, Bob S.
On 6/29/06, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joining this
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006, Bob Sullivan wrote:
On 6/29/06, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joining this discussion late, but...
Back when, I posted a few shots to the PUG. What stopped me from doing
more is how bad my photos looked, to me, on the PUG compared to the way
they looked in their
Thanks Bob and Kostas for the encouragement and the reference.
Stan
On Jun 30, 2006, at 7:44 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006, Bob Sullivan wrote:
On 6/29/06, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joining this discussion late, but...
Back when, I posted a few shots to
Joining this discussion late, but...
Back when, I posted a few shots to the PUG. What stopped me from doing
more is how bad my photos looked, to me, on the PUG compared to the way
they looked in their full glory on my screen before downsizing. The
recent discussion has reminded me of the PUG
Tom, the time will soon be here when some very nice men will come and
bring you a nice white jacket and escort you away to a nice place where
other people with the same ideas as you live ;-)
Cheers,
Cotty
Please wait. There's a knock at my door.
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On 23/6/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
Lets compare the PUG to a nice cool clean glass of water. A few seagulls
fly over and poop in it. Is that glass of water as nice now? :-)
Tom, the time will soon be here when some very nice men will come and
bring you a nice white jacket and
. Even good things have an end.
sincerely,
Jostein
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Tom,
Having high quality photos in the PUG
time to let it die
peacefully. Even good things have an end.
sincerely,
Jostein
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Subject: Re: PUG Challenge
In a message dated 6/24/2006 6:22:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There used to be a small handful of devotees that commented on the
whole PUG. We have made several attempts to ensure that all images in
the PUG gets at least one comment. None of the plans worked out.
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Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:16 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
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So far I've kept my head down in the PUG threads, but there's
something I'd like to say.
People like
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From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Your words, let it die peacefully should be all the incentive
we need if we wish not to lose the PUG.
A bit of a reality check.
Keeping the PUG warm as a topic of discussion, or preferrably, keeping
the IMAGES in the PUG a
Great comments Jostein.
On 6/24/06, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Your words, let it die peacefully should be all the incentive
we need if we wish not to lose the PUG.
A bit of a reality check.
Keeping the PUG warm
On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 03:16:16PM +0200, Jostein wrote:
So far I've kept my head down in the PUG threads, but there's
something I'd like to say.
People like to get comments on their pictures.
Bingo!
Unfortunately, even in the days of 50 entries in the PUG, it
was rare for me to get a
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dave Kennedy wrote:
On 21/6/06, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed:
Good for you Paul, architecture should be right up your
On Jun 23, 2006, at 5:26 AM, Tom C wrote:
I actually like John Forbe's idea of having a panel of judges that
votes on
which submissions are included. Sure it has the possibility of
appearing
arbitrary, but no less so than submitting a photo to a contest or
periodical
for publication.
David,
The purpose of my suggestion was to stimulate some discussion about how to
improve PUG participation and comment.The figures produced by others do
seem to confirm my view that the PUG is in decline. If we can identify
reasons for the decline and address them then that is surely
On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 09:41:28PM +1200, David Mann wrote:
. . . If the file size limit is too small,
feel free to sponsor some web hosting space.
Please don't bother - that's already taken care of.
I own the pdml.us domain, and have offered use of that
(with more than enough disk space,
From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Jun 23, 2006, at 5:26 AM, Tom C wrote:
I actually like John Forbe's idea of having a panel of judges that
votes on
which submissions are included. Sure it has the possibility of
appearing
arbitrary, but no less so than submitting a photo to a
I'm with Dave, shoulder to shoulder.
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Subject: Re: PUG Challenge!
On Jun 23, 2006, at 5:26 AM, Tom C wrote:
I
So Tom,
1) If you've got this thing for a Pentax Photo Contest Gallery,
why don't you start one? If people like it, the gallery will grow.
I'll contribute, so would many others.
2) Please tell me what distinguished this gallery from all the others
available to post your photos on across the
From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So Tom,
1) If you've got this thing for a Pentax Photo Contest Gallery,
why don't you start one? If people like it, the gallery will grow.
I'll contribute, so would many others.
2) Please tell me what distinguished this gallery from all the others
available
On Jun 23, 2006, at 5:14 PM, Tom C wrote:
. I just haven't
dropped it yet. :-)
Are we surprised? :-))
Paul
Well, I wouldn't want to be rude, would I? :-)
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On Jun 23, 2006, at 5:14 PM, Tom C wrote:
. I just haven't
dropped it yet. :-)
Are we surprised? :-))
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1) I don't think anyone was suggesting a contest gallery, per
se. There's a
subtle differentiation. A contest involves winners and
losers, usually a
limited number of winners. What I believe has been suggested
is that there
be some criteria for making it into the gallery and that
Tom,
Having high quality photos in the PUG is a good idea.
Perhaps quality has declined since we went digital.
It is easier to make a casual post to the PUG now,
just resize and upload versus the process before.
Somehow this doesn't square with the declining submissions.
I think the PUG suffers
Bob W, wrote:
I'm one of those people. Although I haven't contributed to the pug
very often,
You've been on the list as long as me... why the hell not then? :-) I've
been attempting to hold up my end... hold up my end? (sorry).
I would never contribute to a gallery constituted the way
you
I see the PUG as a totally different outlet than the PESO. PUG is
very strict on timing and content (once a month, one image, specific
theme) and PESO is more reflective of our shooting. If I go on a trip
somewhere, I am going to shoot what there is in the area, not a PUG
theme, and it is
Bob Sulllivan wrote:
Having high quality photos in the PUG is a good idea.
Perhaps quality has declined since we went digital.
It is easier to make a casual post to the PUG now,
just resize and upload versus the process before.
I think that can be part of it.
Somehow this doesn't square with
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:11:48 +0100, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob W, wrote:
I'm one of those people. Although I haven't contributed to the pug
very often,
You've been on the list as long as me... why the hell not then? :-) I've
been attempting to hold up my end... hold up my end?
Anyway, if all you people would stop engaging me on the subject I might
shut
up.
We note the might, and we recall your track record! :-)
John
My wife has the same problem with me. Maybe she's right... NAAAH!
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Tom C wrote:
I'll just say it again. If the PUG is simply a photo sharing site where
participants submit, look, test out their images, then there probably are
better mechanisms for doing so than a static webpage that must be manually
maintained once a month. If it's an artistic showcase,
Bob W wrote:
Architecture is difficult subject to photograph well because often
you're just making a record shot of someone else's work, which can be
rather dull. One of my favourite examples of making a clichéd subject
come alive again is this photo of the Taj Mahal by Steve McCurry:
Don Sanderson wrote:
This whole PUG thing is starting to sound like a bunch
of people sitting around watching a man die of thirst.
They all have a glass of water in their hand but all
they do is sit, and wait, expecting someone else to
save the poor guy.
Share my water!?
Architecture is
On 21/6/06, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed:
So, who's willing to be part of the solution, instead of
part of the problem?
Shel, Tom, Frank, Bill, Cotty, Aaron, Adam, Ann, Paul,
Bob, Bob, Bob, Boris, Dave, Bruce, Christian, Don, Marnie,
Jens, Jack, John x4, Joe, Keith, Ken, Mark, Mike,
On 21/6/06, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed:
Good for you Paul, architecture should be right up your alley.
Mark!
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On Jun 22, 2006, at 3:37 PM, David Savage wrote:
Which Dave? I think there's about 20
Since you asked, it was you :)
- Dave (staring at his feet)
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On Jun 21, 2006, at 11:43 PM, Aaron Reynolds wrote:
I can't see the advantage in
shooting it on the DS2 unless it's high ISO stuff.
The advantage to shooting a small, lo-res PUG image digitally is that
you can do it in a matter of minutes. As I said in the first place.
Paul
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On Jun 22, 2006, at 6:10 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
The advantage to shooting a small, lo-res PUG image digitally is that
you can do it in a matter of minutes. As I said in the first place.
If I were shooting exclusively for the PUG, that would be just fine.
But as I said in my post, I do
Cotty wrote:
On 21/6/06, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed:
Good for you Paul, architecture should be right up your alley.
Mark!
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Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Cotty wrote:
On 21/6/06, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed:
Good for you Paul, architecture should be right up your alley.
Mark!
At least it is a topic with some structure to it
Right. It's certainly something we can build on.
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On 6/21/06, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
So, who's willing to be part of the solution, instead of
part of the problem?
Shel, Tom, Frank, Bill, Cotty, Aaron, Adam, Ann, Paul,
Bob, Bob, Bob, Boris, Dave, Bruce, Christian, Don, Marnie,
Jens, Jack, John x4, Joe, Keith, Ken, Mark,
So, who's willing to be part of the solution, instead of
part of the problem?
Shel, Tom, Frank, Bill, Cotty, Aaron, Adam, Ann, Paul,
Bob, Bob, Bob, Boris, Dave, Bruce, Christian, Don, Marnie,
Jens, Jack, John x4, Joe, Keith, Ken, Mark, Mike, Peter?
Heck, That's about 30 right there!
Don (Thank
In a message dated 6/21/2006 7:24:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So, who's willing to be part of the solution, instead of
part of the problem?
Shel, Tom, Frank, Bill, Cotty, Aaron, Adam, Ann, Paul,
Bob, Bob, Bob, Boris, Dave, Bruce, Christian, Don, Marnie,
Jens, Jack, John
In a message dated 6/22/2006 8:42:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have been hoping/wishing to raise the standard of photographs submitted
and displayed on the PUG, not just get participants. To enter something in
the PUG, just to participate, if it's not something one
Mark Roberts wrote:
Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Cotty wrote:
On 21/6/06, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed:
Good for you Paul, architecture should be right up your alley.
Mark!
At least it is a topic with some structure to it
Right. It's certainly something we can build
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Tom C
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:38 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PUG Challenge!
So, who's willing to be part of the solution, instead of
part of the problem?
Shel, Tom, Frank, Bill, Cotty, Aaron, Adam, Ann, Paul,
Bob, Bob, Bob, Boris, Dave
I agree 100%.
G
On Jun 22, 2006, at 8:38 AM, Tom C wrote:
I have been hoping/wishing to raise the standard of photographs
submitted
and displayed on the PUG, not just get participants. To enter
something in
the PUG, just to participate, if it's not something one has looked
at with
Frankly, I really don't want to display a photo that I feel is
extremely
successful right beside one that is not.
Heh -- never been in a group show, eh? There's always someone's work
that you'll hate.
-Aaron
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On 6/22/06, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We've laid the foundation, at least
That's very deep.
-knarf
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Comments interspersed at random points through out...
From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IF we will all contribute, and IF we will all critique
fairly, then the good photographers will have that fact
confirmed.
And the not so good (most likely includes me) will
work at becoming better, or
In a message dated 6/22/2006 9:46:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL
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writes:
On 21/6/06, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed:
Good for you Paul, architecture should be right up your alley.
Mark!
At least it is a topic with some structure to it
Right. It's
: Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: PUG Challenge!
On 6/21/06, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
So, who's willing to be part of the solution, instead of
part of the problem?
Shel, Tom, Frank, Bill, Cotty, Aaron, Adam, Ann, Paul,
Bob, Bob, Bob, Boris, Dave, Bruce, Christian
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Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:00 AM
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Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Cotty wrote:
On 21/6/06, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed:
Good for you Paul
On 6/22/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Plus at times you appear to have lost your focus...
At times?
Appear?
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On 21/6/06, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed:
Good for you Paul, architecture should be right up your alley.
Mark!
At least it is a topic with some structure to it
Right. It's certainly something we can build on.
Yeah, but I have a hard time getting my foot in the
Dave Kennedy wrote:
On 21/6/06, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, unleashed:
Good for you Paul, architecture should be right up your alley.
Mark!
At least it is a topic with some structure to it
Right. It's certainly something we can build on.
Yeah, but I have a hard time getting
On 6/22/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And now is certainly a good time to get in on the ground floor.
The ground floor is the place to be. Don't go anyplace for which
you'll need an elevator, or else you could get the shaft.
cheers,
frank
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On 22/6/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
Frankly, I really don't want to display a photo that I feel is extremely
successful right beside one that is not.
Tom lad, you're in orbit. High orbit.
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On 6/22/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 22/6/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:
Frankly, I really don't want to display a photo that I feel is extremely
successful right beside one that is not.
Tom lad, you're in orbit. High orbit.
I thought I already told him I'm not posting on
LOL Frank!
Shutup Cotty. :-)
Tom C.
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:56:44 -0400
On 6/22/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 22/6/06
This whole PUG thing is starting to sound like a bunch
of people sitting around watching a man die of thirst.
They all have a glass of water in their hand but all
they do is sit, and wait, expecting someone else to
save the poor guy.
August: Architecture
Deadline for Submissions: July 20, 2006
to prepare.
This is not a new state of being for me -- I don't think I've ever contributed
to the PUG except for the commemorative LX gallery.
Sorry. It's just not going to happen for me.
-Aaron
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This whole PUG thing is starting to sound like a bunch
of people sitting around watching a man die of thirst.
They all have a glass of water in their hand but all
they do is sit, and wait
I'll be there. I probably have one of longest lists of PUG submissions
extant. I held back in recent months due to PESO and some irritating
problems I've recently encountered when submitting. It seems the image
sometimes has to be WELL under 75 K for the software to acknowledge
that it's okay.
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I'll be there. I probably have one of longest lists of PUG submissions
extant. I held back in recent months due to PESO and some
On Jun 21, 2006, at 10:50 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
So why not just let it pass?
Because I was asked, by name, to participate. To simply ignore it
would be rude. As to only taking a few minutes to prep an image, I'm
glad your scanner is so very, very fast.
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Okay. I didn't realize you were called upon specifically. I thought you
had a DS as well as your film camera. Perhaps not. I'll grant that
scanning, prepping and scaling a film image is a considerable amount of
work. I did it for many years, but it was certainly more difficult than
prepping a
From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So, who's willing to be part of the solution, instead of
part of the problem?
Shel, Tom, Frank, Bill, Cotty, Aaron, Adam, Ann, Paul,
Bob, Bob, Bob, Boris, Dave, Bruce, Christian, Don, Marnie,
Jens, Jack, John x4, Joe, Keith, Ken, Mark, Mike, Peter?
Heck,
On Jun 21, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Okay. I didn't realize you were called upon specifically. I thought you
had a DS as well as your film camera.
I do, however I have owned it since March and my entire catalog of
digital images is split between paid work that I cannot really
as original with
another World Heritage Site. Not as successfully as McCurry, but I
quite like it.
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Sent: 22 June 2006 03:02
To: PDML
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This whole PUG
Hello Don,
I already submitted one based on Daniel's reminder for July. I will
try to post one for August.
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Wednesday, June 21, 2006, 7:02:23 PM, you wrote:
DS This whole PUG thing is starting to sound like a bunch
DS of people sitting around watching a man die of
Well i have to say that ALL the pictures submitted were appealing
to me personally,but,the one that caught my eye,after Vic'sg
was Kathleen Leickly's After the Big Shake.For some reason the
middle fiqure with the tripod,caught my attention.I like the way the
3 people are situated and although a
In a message dated 2/10/2003 10:30:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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At 10:00 PM 09/02/2003 -0500,WW wrote:
Listen,
I challenge everyone who reads this
go to:
http://pug.komkon.org
look at the images on the index page, pick one, and only one
thumbnail and
click
At 10:00 PM 09/02/2003 -0500, William Robb wrote:
Listen,
I challenge everyone who reads this
go to:
http://pug.komkon.org
look at the images on the index page, pick one, and only one
thumbnail and
click on it.
Tell us why you chose that image from the thumbnails, tell us
why you like
I'm going with Going Digital by Andreas Busse. It reminds me a lot of the
famous Salvador Dali painting which I like. Improvements? I may have put the
digital clock face pictures on a layer above the gray starburst, used the
emboss filter if possible to add a 3D effect to the starburst and clone
WR wrote:
Listen,
I challenge everyone who reads this
go to:
http://pug.komkon.org
look at the images on the index page, pick one, and only one thumbnail and
click on it.
Tell us why you chose that image from the thumbnails, tell us why you like
the image, and how you think you would
At 10:00 PM 09/02/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Listen,
I challenge everyone who reads this
go to:
http://pug.komkon.org
look at the images on the index page, pick one, and only one thumbnail and
click on it.
Tell us why you chose that image from the thumbnails, tell us why you like
the image, and
First glance through the thumbnails, my eye rested on Vic MacBournie's
submission. How did he get my dog in the photo?
My first smartass answer (as opposed to the smartass answer I eventually
chose g) is that I like Vic's picture best...except for the dog.
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