Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-21 Thread Tim Bray
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter. Not so fast. Think of all the adorable baby neoprenes that died to produce each of those straps. -T -- PDML

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-21 Thread P. J. Alling
On 12/21/2009 4:24 AM, Tim Bray wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Tim Øslebymaritim...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter. Not so fast. Think of all the adorable baby neoprenes that

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Oh, I thought the Neoprenes were cute baby Naugas... On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 2:39 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/21/2009 4:24 AM, Tim Bray wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Tim Øslebymaritim...@gmail.com  wrote: Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-21 Thread Tim Øsleby
LOL -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2009/12/21 Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter. Not so fast.  

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-21 Thread eckinator
2009/12/21 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com: Oh, I thought the Neoprenes were cute baby Naugas... didn't you know most Naugas are gone into hyding this time of the year? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-20 Thread Tim Øsleby
Message - From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? On 2009-12-17 18:06 , Christine Aguila wrote: No, can you recommend one, Tim? i'm not Tim

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-20 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com I am Tim, and I'm giggling. Hope you are old enough to take it. It is friendly giggling. Mainly because that's something I could ave done. Now, how does the new strap feel? So far so good! ;- -- PDML

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-19 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? On 2009-12-17 18:06 , Christine Aguila wrote: No, can you recommend one, Tim

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-19 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 11:35 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? At 9:14 AM -0600 12/18/09, Christine Aguila wrote: From: Steve Sharpe d

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-19 Thread Steve Sharpe
Looks like the local camera store has the K20D on sale, so I'm gonna try to snag one! Cool! Looking forward to seeing your 1st pics! Cheers, Christine Ack! They're holding one for me! I pick it up on the 28th! Woo Hoo, just in time for the New Year! Cheers, Christine Lots of winter

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread webster26
, but certainly not out of character for the wimp I am :-). Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread webster26
On 12/17/2009 4:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Subash wrote: frank theriaultknarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago. We could talk about guns. Abortion. Religion. Politics. Yeah, politics! That Obama, what a guy, eh?

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread webster26
Center of his chest, (leaning slightly to the left). On 12/17/2009 1:54 AM, Cotty wrote: On 16/12/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: And, yeah, I do like Obama. A bit right wing for my tastes, but I think his heart's in the right place. In his mouth? -- Cheers,

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2009-12-17 20:03, Tim Øsleby wrote: Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter. I'll second that. I originally got one for my bag, which tends to be a bit heavy when I'm moving around an event. I was simply amazed at the

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread Steve Sharpe
Come on everyone, this is a Pentax mailing list! APERTURE SIMULATORS! Only worth discussing if it's on the new upcoming Full Frame camera. (Damn I still want an MZ-D). Was that to be full frame? I know it was to use the Foveon (sp?) chip. -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca •

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread Christine Aguila
List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:03 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2009/12/17

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread Christine Aguila
From: Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca Looks like the local camera store has the K20D on sale, so I'm gonna try to snag one! Cool! Looking forward to seeing your 1st pics! Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually the prototypes had a full frame Philips 6MP chip. It would have probably shipped just about the time Kodak announced their 14mp and Canon their 11mp full frame SLRs. Contax persisted using the same chip and look what it did for them. On 12/18/2009 9:33 AM, Steve Sharpe wrote:

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread David J Brooks
This one comes from the happy medium department. I thought the istD was a tad to small and the K10D about right for my hands. I;m not partial to a smaller unit, if thaqts what Pentax has up there extension tubes.:-) I like the feel of the bulkier bodies, the PZ-1 the K10D. The Nikons I have all

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread steve harley
On 2009-12-17 18:06 , Christine Aguila wrote: No, can you recommend one, Tim? i'm not Tim, but i'm quite happy with an Op/Tech neoprene strap on my K200d -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread Sandra Hermann
Really? My K10D does not impress me one bit. It has serious White out issues. It seems to take most of it's pictures so white they are useless. Now the funny thing is, I won't buy a new one because I'm determined to figure out what is wrong with this one. (or maybe it is the lack of a job)

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread John Sessoms
From: Steve Sharpe Come on everyone, this is a Pentax mailing list! APERTURE SIMULATORS! Only worth discussing if it's on the new upcoming Full Frame camera. (Damn I still want an MZ-D). Was that to be full frame? I know it was to use the Foveon (sp?) chip. Full frame, yes; Foveon, no.

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread Margus Männik
Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:03 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread John Francis
Check the EXIF information for one of the blown-out images. In fact check the metadata for *all* of them, and see if the problems only occur with one particular lens. If that is the case the problem may well be with the lens, not the camera body. The lens may have sticky aperture blades, and

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 9:14 AM -0600 12/18/09, Christine Aguila wrote: From: Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca Looks like the local camera store has the K20D on sale, so I'm gonna try to snag one! Cool! Looking forward to seeing your 1st pics! Cheers, Christine Ack! They're holding one for me! I pick it up on

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread Tom C
I haven't had a K10D, but had a K20D.The K-7 is a huge improvement On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Sandra Hermann jeepgirls2...@yahoo.com wrote: Really?  My K10D does not impress me one bit.  It has serious White out issues.  It seems to take most of it's pictures so white they are useless.  

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread Tom C
I haven't had a K10D, but have a K20D. While the K20D also had similar issues, the K-7 is a great improvement in expossure accuracy. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't had a K10D, but had a K20D.The K-7 is a huge improvement On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: 6 megapixel (3072*2048) full 135 film frame sized (24*36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips From Boz's site: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html Those pictures make me weep. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O)

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread paul stenquist
On Dec 18, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Cotty wrote: On 18/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: 6 megapixel (3072*2048) full 135 film frame sized (24*36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips From Boz's site: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html Those pictures

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread John Sessoms
From: Cotty On 18/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: 6 megapixel (3072*2048) full 135 film frame sized (24*36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips From Boz's site: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html Those pictures make me weep. Still and all, I like

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread Sandra Hermann
...@panix.com Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 11:39 AM Check the EXIF information for one of the blown-out images. In fact check the metadata for *all* of them, and see if the problems only

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 1:12 PM -0500 12/18/09, John Sessoms wrote: From: Cotty On 18/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: 6 megapixel (3072*2048) full 135 film frame sized (24*36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips From Boz's site: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 01:07:37PM -0500, paul stenquist wrote: On Dec 18, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Cotty wrote: On 18/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: 6 megapixel (3072*2048) full 135 film frame sized (24*36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips From Boz's site:

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 02:30:04PM -0400, Steve Sharpe wrote: At 1:12 PM -0500 12/18/09, John Sessoms wrote: From: Cotty On 18/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: 6 megapixel (3072*2048) full 135 film frame sized (24*36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips From Boz's site:

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 2:49 PM -0500 12/18/09, John Francis wrote: On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 02:30:04PM -0400, Steve Sharpe wrote: At 1:12 PM -0500 12/18/09, John Sessoms wrote: From: Cotty On 18/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: 6 megapixel (3072*2048) full 135 film frame sized (24*36 mm)

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread Ken Waller
Curious as to what the histogram looks like on those blown out images. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Sandra Hermann jeepgirls2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? Really? My K10D does not impress me

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/12/09, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: They should make you happy. We didn't get stuck with a camera built around a sensor that was doomed from day one. Very true. But the design of the body, and to think what might have been, had it been done properly. -- Cheers, Cotty

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread John Sessoms
From: Steve Sharpe At 1:12 PM -0500 12/18/09, John Sessoms wrote: From: Cotty On 18/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: 6 megapixel (3072*2048) full 135 film frame sized (24*36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips From Boz's site:

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2009-12-18 11:22, steve harley wrote: On 2009-12-17 18:06 , Christine Aguila wrote: No, can you recommend one, Tim? i'm not Tim, but i'm quite happy with an Op/Tech neoprene strap on my K200d I have an Op-Tech neoprene strap, too, and I've been quite happy with it. I would like it to

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread John Sessoms
From: Steve Sharpe At 2:49 PM -0500 12/18/09, John Francis wrote: On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 02:30:04PM -0400, Steve Sharpe wrote: At 1:12 PM -0500 12/18/09, John Sessoms wrote: From: Cotty On 18/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: 6 megapixel (3072*2048) full 135 film

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread Steve Sharpe
I understand what you are saying but I do not agree. Up until the *istD (for me) the controls of each new generation of camera tended to build on the previous one, so learning a new camera was easy. The *istD's controls were quite a departure from the MZ-S and so meant that I had to spend

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 07:33:54PM -0400, Steve Sharpe wrote: It's taken me three years, but I've finally figured out what those little twirly wheels on the *istD do and now I like them. My complaint with them is that both aperture and shutter speed are controlled with the right hand,

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-18 Thread David Mann
On Dec 19, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Cotty wrote: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html Those pictures make me weep. Me too. A body that size should be shooting medium format. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread Tim Bray
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:12 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: We could talk about guns. You left out Global Warming. Jeepers. Even though you're Not Trying Hard Enough, I will nonetheless offer this amusing look under the Wikipedia covers to prove that when it comes to

RE: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread Bob W
Yeah, politics!  That Obama, what a guy, eh? I suspected you were a fan of Osama. Now we have confirmation:-). No, no, Paul. That's O-B-ama. With a B. Him I like. The other one, not so much... (whew, what a difference one letter can make!) ;-) Yep. Ask Ramsay MacDonald.

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Subash wrote: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago. We could talk about guns. Abortion. Religion. Politics. Yeah, politics! That Obama, what a guy, eh? How about that climate summit in Sweden! Or was that

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread paul stenquist
gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I thought the same w/ my K200D. Then I had to touch a K7 listen to it's shutter sound. What to do with a K200D

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread eckinator
2009/12/17 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com: APERTURE SIMULATORS! screw-in for the filter thread? including a zoom version? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: APERTURE SIMULATORS! Mark, Why did you HAVE TO BRING UP that topic?!?!? Are you mocking the IMPORTANCE OF APERTURE SIMULATORS??? Don't you realize that PENTAX' failure to INCLUDE aperture simulators in their cameras

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:12 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: We could talk about guns. You left out Global Warming.  Jeepers.  Even though you're Not Trying Hard Enough, I will nonetheless offer this

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:12 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: We could talk about guns. You left out Global Warming.  Jeepers.  Even though you're Not Trying Hard Enough, I will

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread mike wilson
P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The winter doldrums are approaching and the fact that Pentax has finally given us a couple of camera bodies that, (with /appropriately/ lowered expectations), seem to be what most of us want, the of the discussion of future developments

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread Christine Aguila
: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the K7 isn't a lot lighter than the K20. Somewhat smaller

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread Scott Loveless
On 12/16/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:41 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Oh Obama!! Now I feel better:-). And, yeah, I do like Obama. A bit right wing for my tastes, but I think his heart's in the right place. You

RE: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob W Yeah, politics! ?That Obama, what a guy, eh? I suspected you were a fan of Osama. Now we have confirmation:-). No, no, Paul. That's O-B-ama. With a B. Him I like. The other one, not so much... (whew, what a difference one letter can make!) ;-) Yep. Ask

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread John Sessoms
From: frank theriault On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:12 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: We could talk about guns. You left out Global Warming. ?Jeepers. ?Even though you're Not Trying Hard Enough, I

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread Brian Walters
/ - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the K7 isn't a lot lighter than

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm -actually, I just checked Lightroom; I shot 5887 frames so far for 2009. I suppose by PDML standards that's pretty wimpy, but certainly not out of character for the wimp I am :-). Cheers, Christine You call 5887

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 4:19 PM -0600 12/17/09, Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm -actually, I just checked Lightroom; I shot 5887 frames so far for 2009. I suppose by PDML standards that's pretty wimpy, but certainly not out of character for the

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread Tim Øsleby
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the K7 isn't a lot lighter than the K20. Somewhat smaller, but it's packed and well built, so it's rather hefty. I prefer a heavier camera

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread Christine Aguila
No, can you recommend one, Tim? Thanks for the tip! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:03 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? Have

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread Tim Øsleby
: Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:03 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2009/12/17 Christine  Aguila

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread paul stenquist
I'm at 9300 on my K7D. I know I burned through thousands on my K20D when I was shooting a lot of virtual tours. I'd guess I'm at about 20,000 for the year. Three or four keepers in there too! Paul On Dec 17, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote: At 4:19 PM -0600 12/17/09, Christine Aguila

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 08:41:39AM +1100, Brian Walters wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:55 -0600, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Well, some lighter would help ;-). Seriously though, when I did the camera-store-try on the K7, it felt good to hold and had a nice feel. I do

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread David Mann
On Dec 18, 2009, at 6:14 PM, John Francis wrote: I'm at less than both of you on my K10D. Not just last year - since I bought it, three years ago. (I guess I go for quality, not quantity :-) I could have said the same for my K10D, pretty much word-for-word. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-17 Thread Tom C
Personally, loving the K-7... I still disbelieve the reality of a 645D and question the saleability/profitability of such a system if it were to be produced. I also would like to know, where does Pentax go from here? Tom On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread Toralf Lund
P. J. Alling wrote: The winter doldrums are approaching and the fact that Pentax has finally given us a couple of camera bodies that, (with /appropriately/ lowered expectations), seem to be what most of us want, the of the discussion of future developments has stopped. Yeah. How could they? I

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:15 -0500, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The winter doldrums are approaching and the fact that Pentax has finally given us a couple of camera bodies that, (with /appropriately/ lowered expectations), seem to be what most of us want, the of the discussion

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread gldnbearz
I thought the same w/ my K200D. Then I had to touch a K7 listen to it's shutter sound. What to do with a K200D + grip? :\ - Pat On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point I think that DSLR

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 8:57 AM +1100 12/17/09, Brian Walters wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:15 -0500, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The winter doldrums are approaching and the fact that Pentax has finally given us a couple of camera bodies that, (with /appropriately/ lowered expectations), seem

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread David J Brooks
If Pentax could give me AF speed and fill flash consistancy that was like my D2h and D200, i would buy it and keep the faith. Dave On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca wrote: At 8:57 AM +1100 12/17/09, Brian Walters wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:15 -0500, P. J.

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
Pentax has introduced too many new cameras for us to complain. No wait, this group can always complain! The US is running a special price on the K-7 with WP kit lens, $150 below K-7 price alone and offering $100 off on each lens purchased at the same time. If the K-20 didn't have a 3 year

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread Subash
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:57:34 +1100 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2009-12-16 21:50, Subash wrote: will buy the k-x if i can get hold of one (it will probably have to come through the grey market from singapore, as with any pentax body/lens here)... I'll go for the K7 when the price comes down a bit and my personal finances clear up a bit (got a lot to

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread Rick Womer
Well, I've been thinkin'... I was really attracted to the K7 because of its smaller size, faster performance, more accurate metering, and artificial horizon. However... I am really happy with my K10D, whose RAW low-light performance is actually a bit better (see dxomark.com), whose AF is

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The winter doldrums are approaching and the fact that Pentax has finally given us a couple of camera bodies that, (with /appropriately/ lowered expectations), seem to be what most of us want, the of the discussion

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread Subash
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:12:46 -0500 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago. We could talk about guns. Abortion. Religion. Politics. Yeah, politics! That Obama, what a guy, eh? How about that climate summit in

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread paul stenquist
On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:12 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The winter doldrums are approaching and the fact that Pentax has finally given us a couple of camera bodies that, (with /appropriately/ lowered expectations),

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:31 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Yeah, politics!  That Obama, what a guy, eh? I suspected you were a fan of Osama. Now we have confirmation:-). No, no, Paul. That's O-B-ama. With a B. Him I like. The other one, not so much... (whew, what a

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2009-12-16 23:11, Rick Womer wrote: However... I am really happy with my K10D [...] Besides, I'm a cheapskate. I am, too, for the most part. I also don't want to get on the same upgrade treadmill with cameras that governed personal computers for so long. My K10 is up to 11 or 12,000

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread paul stenquist
Oh Obama!! Now I feel better:-). Paul On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:35 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:31 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Yeah, politics! That Obama, what a guy, eh? I suspected you were a fan of Osama. Now we have confirmation:-). No,

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:41 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Oh Obama!! Now I feel better:-). And, yeah, I do like Obama. A bit right wing for my tastes, but I think his heart's in the right place. ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread Subash
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:56:26 +0530 Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:12:46 -0500 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago. We could talk about guns. Abortion. Religion. Politics.

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread John Sessoms
From: Doug Franklin On 2009-12-16 23:11, Rick Womer wrote: So, I'm currently planning to sit back and wait to see what comes after the K7. Unless, of course, I impusively change my mind. A furnace, an air conditioner, a roof, and an exterior painting of the house will conspire to

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Peter, I reckon that gear discussions for sake of gear discussions are silly. However, if there is a particular point or question - I'd gladly join the talk should I think I might contribute information. By the way, sir, I've sent you a message of list some time ago and you did not seem to

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/12/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: And, yeah, I do like Obama. A bit right wing for my tastes, but I think his heart's in the right place. In his mouth? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-16 Thread Christine Aguila
16, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I thought the same w/ my K200D. Then I had to touch a K7 listen to it's shutter sound. What to do with a K200D + grip? :\ - Pat On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Well