On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:06:46 +0200, you wrote:
It might be a good idea to clean some area in the basement and
offer to take away that old and useless film only processor
for free when they start to throw them out. Now that would be
a good thing to do...
I think the notion of getting a film
On 29/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
I can make beer in my basement, and in sufficient quantity and quality to
keep several families of drunks happy.
OTOH, I don't have a film coating plant down there.
There is a huge difference between making film and making beer.
Sorry, your comparison is a
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In affluent parts of the world, I expect enough consumers will go to digital
to dictate what every one else will do as well.
snip
As far as film hanging around because of non computerized parts of the world
will be using it, I have a few thoughts:
Consumer
Hi,
What's interesting to speculate to me is what will happen in places
where there is *no* film processing infrastructure now. Digital kiosks
are much less expensive, smaller and easier to manage than C-41
minilabs. I wouldn't be surprised if some places go straight to digital
without ever
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What's interesting to speculate to me is what will happen in places
where there is *no* film processing infrastructure now. Digital kiosks
are much less expensive, smaller and easier to manage than C-41
minilabs. I wouldn't be surprised if some places go
There are very few places in the world where there isn't film processing
infrastructure.
Commercial Color processing might not be available from a mini-lab but BW
processing
can be done everywhere that water is liquid and it's not so hot that people
burst into
flames, (which I suppose leaves
That makes the rather silly assumption that they would have to go through all
the steps it took to invent the technology to implement the technology today.
What you are saying is they would have to use film because they could not afford
the batteries for a digital camera. I say, If they could
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From: graywolf
Subject: Re: Film: And the Dead Shall Rise...
I am at least as retro as anyone on this list, but even I find some of
these
anti-digital arguments specious.
The really specious arguement is that somehow, a population of people living
in grass
: And the Dead Shall Rise...
I am at least as retro as anyone on this list, but even I find some of
these
anti-digital arguments specious.
The really specious arguement is that somehow, a population of people living
in grass huts is somehow going to buy enough film to keep an industry
afloat.
It ain't
Hi,
I was not making that assumption or making that claim about film and
batteries, and I'm not making anti-digital arguments. You're putting
words into my mouth.
When was the last time you were in a 3rd world country? No need for
infrastructure to support a laptop? You make me laugh!
--
Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe not, but what makes you think that film couldn't be sustained by small
local producers. Take a lesson from the Micro Brewery's. snip
No offense, but my specious argument meter just pegged so hard that
the needle bent.
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob posted:
I was not making that assumption or making that claim about film and
batteries, and I'm not making anti-digital arguments. You're putting
words into my mouth.
When was the last time you were in a 3rd world country? No need for
infrastructure to
Now that was funny, LOL.
Norm
Mark Roberts wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It might be helpful if you could be very clear about what, to you, constitutes
a Third World country.
Yorkshire ;-)
Hi,
When was the last time you were in a 3rd world country? No need for
infrastructure to support a laptop? You make me laugh!
It might be helpful if you could be very clear about what, to you, constitutes
a Third World country. My mother lives in one. With a laptop and a digital
Those hand chargeable flashlights and radios. Think of it, the next big
thing in personal computing, a exercise bicycle attached to a generator
attached to a PC. It gives a whole new meaning to cruising the Internet.
Maybe it might even get Americans to loose a few pounds.
At 06:21 PM 1/29/04,
I see that the assuption I just posted, was correct.
--
Bob W wrote:
Hi,
When was the last time you were in a 3rd world country? No need for
infrastructure to support a laptop? You make me laugh!
It might be helpful if you could be very clear about what, to you, constitutes
a Third World
I guess the african bushmen, who chose to continue to live in the bush would
have a hard time dealing with digital cameras. Though it seems to me they would
also have a hard time dealing with film too.
Somehow, I never considered 3 world to mean primitives. Something tells me that
someone who
- Original Message -
From: Peter Alling
Subject: Re: Film: And the Dead Shall Rise...
Maybe not, but what makes you think that film couldn't be sustained by
small
local producers. Take a lesson from the Micro Brewery's. The largest,
Boston
Brewing Co. has grown to a size
would I make my own
glass,
do you grow your own wheat?
At 08:18 PM 1/29/04, you wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Peter Alling
Subject: Re: Film: And the Dead Shall Rise...
I can make glass plates at home, it's a bitch but I can do it.
Making individual glass plates is the equivalent
Hi,
When was the last time you were in a 3rd world country? No need for
infrastructure to support a laptop? You make me laugh!
It might be helpful if you could be very clear about what, to you,
constitutes
a Third World country. My mother lives in one. With a laptop and a
-Original Message-
Paul
(A digital purchaser who believes film will outlive most of us on
this
forum.)
I fully agree. I believe film will outlive all of us. Not dozens of
different emulsions and not available in every store but there will
be film for a very long time. If Kodak
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:05:35 -0800, Jim Apilado wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if those shooting digital would like to see the era of
film end ASAP.
I wouldn't. Digital is not good enough yet to replace film completely.
It will one day, I know that. Unfortunately people are getting used
to
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I think there are some photographers who have an unconscious need to
validate their digital purchase. The demise of film would do just that.
Paul
(A digital purchaser who believes film will outlive most of us on this
forum.)
Thank you Paul. My
On 28/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
Chris (a digital user who thinks film has soul [sorry Cotty])
Don't apologise! I agree.
Cheers,
Cotty
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Hello Antti-Pekka,
My personal belief is that it is NOT the lack of film availabilty that
will be the issue, but the cost to buy and PROCESS/PRINT it.
Depending on where you are in the world, this may be the case. Here
in the USA, the number of 1 hour minilabs is starting to drop unless
they
Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I expect that color film use five to ten years from now will at
least equal black and white film use today.
Now that's the first film-to-digital transition speculation that makes
sense to me. Well put.
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: OT: Film: And the Dead Shall Rise...
From Steve Blumenkranz as posted on the photo.net Leica Photography
board:
Today I received an email from Kodak clarifying their position regarding
their intent as regards their future as a
Sometimes I wonder if those shooting digital would like to see the era of
film end ASAP.
Jim A.
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:56:32 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Film: And the Dead Shall Rise...
Resent-From: [EMAIL
-Original Message-
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: OT: Film: And the Dead Shall Rise...
From Steve Blumenkranz as posted on the photo.net Leica Photography
board:
Today I received an email from
I
On Jan 27, 2004, at 8:05 PM, Jim Apilado wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if those shooting digital would like to see the era
of
film end ASAP.
I think there are some photographers who have an unconscious need to
validate their digital purchase. The demise of film would do just that.
Paul
(A digital
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