On 1/24/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 23/1/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
Define distasteful !
Filming/reporting a best of blue vein cheese tasting.
LOL thanks mate. Coffee-nostrils.
Whoops.
Cheers,
Dave :-)
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From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/01/24 Wed AM 12:42:09 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Moral dilemma
Seems to me that the BBC can't decide if it's organized. (or
disorganized), crime.
Salvage (saving something from total loss) very much
In a message dated 1/23/2007 12:56:34 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You are a person of good taste and manners. Which is why you will never make
a journalist.
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Marnie aka Doe ;-)
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On Jan 23, 2007, at 17:12, Cotty wrote:
On 23/1/07, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:
While I'm not sure I'd take pictures of the BODY, I would document
the scene around my house/apartment if such a thing occurred.
Simply because that is what I do with a camera - record events.
On 24/1/07, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:
I guess when I said around my house/apartment I was referring to
the landscape OUTSIDE of the residence, not IN it.
Charles, if you've got a busy life inside your apartment, that's fine by
me buddy ;-)
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From: John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/01/23 Tue AM 02:07:59 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Moral dilemma
What would you have done?
Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The
street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5
On 22/1/07, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed:
This tells me that you are very decent person and of commonsense. I think
Police was wrong. In the country where I came from, or many other
countries, they quickly erect a tent to conceal the scene out of respect for
the deceased, regardless
On 23/1/07, John Coyle, discombobulated, unleashed:
Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The
street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told.
Despite the fact that I could see all this action, and from our roof could
see the body and
On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
You are a person of good taste and manners. Which is why you will never
make a journalist.
Thanks Mike ! ;-)
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On 23/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
That's pretty much what I was going to say, except that I hadn't
gotten as far as thinking about what I'd do if I were employed as
a news photographer.
I'd shoot the overall scene, shots of police collecting evidence
other than right
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/01/23 Tue AM 09:36:59 GMT
To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Moral dilemma
On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
You are a person of good taste and manners. Which is why you will never
make a journalist.
Thanks Mike
On 1/23/07 4:27 AM, Cotty, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This tells me that you are very decent person and of commonsense. I think
Police was wrong. In the country where I came from, or many other
countries, they quickly erect a tent to conceal the scene out of respect for
the deceased,
On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
My pleasure. 8-) As you so elegantly stated, journos often have to do
things that are distasteful and would not be something one would want to
do as an individual.
Define distasteful !
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On 1/23/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
My pleasure. 8-) As you so elegantly stated, journos often have to do
things that are distasteful and would not be something one would want to
do as an individual.
Define distasteful !
Yes I think that does it!
Cheers
Brian
++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
Quoting David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 1/23/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Define distasteful !
Filming/reporting a best of blue vein cheese tasting.
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/01/23 Tue PM 12:34:26 GMT
To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Moral dilemma
On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
My pleasure. 8-) As you so elegantly stated, journos often have to do
things that are distasteful and would
What would I have done?
I probably would have had no idea what was going on. But would be
bitching and moaning about all the cop cars blocking the street.
I would eventually find out what had happened and then felt like a selfish twit.
Cheers,
Dave
On 1/23/07, John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cotty wrote:
On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
My pleasure. 8-) As you so elegantly stated, journos often have to do
things that are distasteful and would not be something one would want to
do as an individual.
Define distasteful !
Cotty,
Personally I don't think morality is an issue. I think it's about
personal comfort and the law.
...
If shooting (stills or video) in circumstances such as these is
uncomfortable then the outcome is obvious - one will not do it, and
probably think very little of those that would.
Ya just has to agree wit that...
Mark Roberts wrote:
Cotty wrote:
On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
My pleasure. 8-) As you so elegantly stated, journos often have to do
things that are distasteful and would not be something one would want to
do as an
- Original Message -
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: Moral dilemma
Sadly you would not make it as a news photographer sir. There may be no
obvious reason to you why need to shoot the corpse, but if your editor
later discovered you had not, you would not be working for him/her
again
On 23/1/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
Define distasteful !
http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/mods/eoskmount.html
;-)
I asked for that.
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On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
Define distasteful !
I meant it as a generic statement. Distasteful varies from person to
person, as well as having a cultural side. As a personal guide, I would
have it mean to take advantage of the subject. You could add
disclaimers such
On 23/1/07, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:
Consider, Cotty. I drove today at work and approaching a crossing I
heard an ambulance's siren. Instinctively I turned to look in the
mirror (I have slightly wider custom inside mirror) only to realize
that nothing was in there. Meanwhile
On 23/1/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
Define distasteful !
Filming/reporting a best of blue vein cheese tasting.
LOL thanks mate. Coffee-nostrils.
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On Jan 23, 2007, at 5:47 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Cotty wrote:
Define distasteful !
http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/mods/eoskmount.html
;-)
LOL !!!
G
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i think this would be me too! :)
russ
On 1/23/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What would I have done?
I probably would have had no idea what was going on. But would be
bitching and moaning about all the cop cars blocking the street.
I would eventually find out what had happened
All those things some a'hole sergeant tells you to do when you are in
the military? Of course some f'ing orificer told him to make you do
that. Some perverted polly told the officer to do that. And the
politician got the idea from something some tall bald-headed Limey News
Cameraman shot.
On 23/1/07, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:
All those things some a'hole sergeant tells you to do when you are in
the military? Of course some f'ing orificer told him to make you do
that. Some perverted polly told the officer to do that. And the
politician got the idea from something
-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cotty
Sent: 23 January 2007 09:26
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: Moral dilemma
On 23/1/07, John Coyle, discombobulated, unleashed:
Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where
I live. The
street was full
It appears the real question here is what would you do with the pictures
taken?
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Moral dilemma
On 23/1/07, John Coyle, discombobulated, unleashed:
Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite
Cotty wrote:
On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
Define distasteful !
I meant it as a generic statement. Distasteful varies from person to
person, as well as having a cultural side. As a personal guide, I would
have it mean to take advantage of the subject. You could add
On Jan 23, 2007, at 14:53, Kenneth Waller wrote:
It appears the real question here is what would you do with the
pictures
taken?
While I'm not sure I'd take pictures of the BODY, I would document
the scene around my house/apartment if such a thing occurred.
Simply because that is what
On 23/1/07, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:
While I'm not sure I'd take pictures of the BODY, I would document
the scene around my house/apartment if such a thing occurred.
Simply because that is what I do with a camera - record events. And
that, while a bummer, is
Seems to me that the BBC can't decide if it's organized. (or
disorganized), crime.
Cotty wrote:
On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
Define distasteful !
I meant it as a generic statement. Distasteful varies from person to
person, as well as having a cultural
Hi!
Consider, Cotty. I drove today at work and approaching a crossing I
heard an ambulance's siren. Instinctively I turned to look in the
mirror (I have slightly wider custom inside mirror) only to realize
that nothing was in there. Meanwhile the ambulance was entering the
crossing on the
As an individual, amateur photographer, I might have looked for
interesting shots relating to the response to the call, but would not
have shot the body itself. That is just more than a little morbid for
me, and kinda' disrespectful of both the deceased and his/her family.
If I were a news
On 1/22/07 9:07 PM, John Coyle, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What would you have done?
Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The
street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told.
Despite the fact that I could see all this action, and from
Just what you did, I think.
Cheers
Brian
++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
Quoting John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What would you have done?
Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I
live. The
street was full of police and
On 1/22/07, John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What would you have done?
Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The
street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told.
Despite the fact that I could see all this action, and from our roof
),
but the investigation going on may have been
interesting to review.
jco
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tom Simpson
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:21 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Moral dilemma
As an individual, amateur
- Original Message -
From: John Coyle Subject: Moral dilemma
What would you have done?
Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The
street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told.
Despite the fact that I could see all this
or all three...
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: John Coyle Subject: Moral dilemma
What would you have done?
Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The
street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told.
Tom Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Coyle wrote:
What would you have done?
Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The
street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told.
Despite the fact that I could see all this action, and
John Coyle wrote:
I did not shoot a single photograph.
I'll leave any further comment at this stage...
What you did was fine. But honestly, people die. They really do. And
taking photographs doesn't change the situation much.
Now, would it have been crude, tactless, or even taboo?
John Coyle wrote:
What would you have done?
Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The
street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told.
Despite the fact that I could see all this action, and from our roof could
see the body and the
: Moral Dilemma
- Original Message -
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HAR. A crack into which a crowbar will take purchase..
Now don't make me peckish...
Drinks are on you!
Uh-oh.
Have mercy!
Imagine how much Pentax gear I would have to sell of to finance
I usually solve this problem by giving my wife the camera and letting her
take pictures. I take over only when there is really
something interesting to shoot. That way you don't even need to carry the
camera, she will carry it for you. You just need 2GB
memory card minimum for this.
]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:54 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
- Original Message -
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HAR. A crack into which a crowbar will take purchase..
Now don't make me peckish...
Drinks are on you!
Uh-oh.
Have mercy!
Imagine how much
On 5/3/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
particularly observant, you may need a little black electrical tape to
cover up the *ist-D logo.
I believe Juan may have a bit of black tape left over that he could
lend Shaun...
Sure. But it's *gaffers* tape, not electrical tape!
fra: Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland
with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
1. Leave camera at home,
2. Leave wife and son at home,
3. Take son and leave
From: Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/05/03 Tue PM 11:25:29 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Moral Dilemma
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland
with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
take *ist D etc. What do I
On 4/5/05, Shaun Canning, discombobulated, unleashed:
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North
Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
1. Leave camera at home,
2. Leave wife and son at home,
3. Take son and
On 4/5/05, Shaun Canning, discombobulated, unleashed:
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North
Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
1. Leave camera at home,
2. Leave wife and son at home,
3. Take son and
Message-
From: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:03 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
Henri:
Take it anyway, give her the creditcard and tell her to go shopping.
Godfrey:
Do what you want.
Deal with the consequences.
Both
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Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:54 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 08:03:13PM -0600, Joseph Tainter wrote:
Henri:
Take it anyway, give her the creditcard and tell her to go shopping.
Godfrey:
Do what you want.
Deal
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:41 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
Hi!
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland
with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me
to
take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
1. Leave
Thank you all for your witty and obviously well practiced answers to my
dilemma. I'll talk the wife around...
I've managed to talk her in to everything else for the last 8 years, so I think
I can manage a camera.
The replies were funny though
Cheers
Shaun
Dr. Shaun Canning
Cultural
Shaun,
If your wife is any bit like mine, the opposition against cameras is basically a
mild jealousy over the time you spend with it, instead of assisting her with the
kid. :-)
In the long term, this will pass as the kids grow out of their diapers.
In the short term, bring the camera. You must
From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/05/04 Wed AM 09:58:46 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
Shaun,
If your wife is any bit like mine, the opposition against cameras is
basically a
mild jealousy over the time you spend with it, instead of assisting
Shaun Canning wrote:
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North
Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
1. Leave camera at home,
2. Leave wife and son at home,
3. Take son and leave wife,
4. Justify buying a
On 4/5/05, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed:
To all London DPML'ers,
Please don't mention this mail to Vera in the coming week-end. :-)
HAR. A crack into which a crowbar will take purchase..
Drinks are on you!
Cheers,
Cotty
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- Original Message -
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HAR. A crack into which a crowbar will take purchase..
Now don't make me peckish...
Drinks are on you!
Uh-oh.
Have mercy!
Imagine how much Pentax gear I would have to sell of to finance that!
Jostein
- Original Message -
From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yy!!! Drinks are on Jostein!
Okay, here's for another moral dilemma:
Sell my gear to finance a thirst quench for these rabid PDML'ers, AND
having to explain that to the wife in a plausible way;
or,
Show her the mail I sent to
On 4/5/05, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed:
Okay, here's for another moral dilemma:
Sell my gear to finance a thirst quench for these rabid PDML'ers, AND
having to explain that to the wife in a plausible way;
or,
Show her the mail I sent to Shaun.
Hmmm...
Afraid you'll end up thirsty,
Jostein is right.
The wife wants your help and attention with an 8 month old.
Put a small, fixed focal length lens on the camera and
put it away in your bags. After you reach your destination,
and have shown your attentiveness, 'discover' the camera
and take a limited amount of pictures of the
From my experience, if you do not do what wife wants, she will get mad. If you do what she wants, she will eventually leave you because you are a whimp. It is called, You can not win. So the best thing to do is what you wanted to do anyway
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof ==
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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Re: Moral Dilemma
From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/05/04 Wed AM 09:58:46 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
Shaun,
If your wife is any bit like mine
://www.heritageservices.com.au
-Original Message-
From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:54 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
- Original Message -
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HAR. A crack into which a crowbar will take purchase..
Now
I like to let her think she does anyway...
:-)
Shaun
Cotty said:
On 4/5/05, Shaun Canning, discombobulated, unleashed:
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North
Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
1.
Shaun Canning wrote:
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland
with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
1. Leave camera at home,
2. Leave wife and son at home,
3. Take son and leave wife,
4. Justify buying a
On 5/3/05, Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland
with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
1. Leave camera at home,
2. Leave wife and son at home,
3. Take son
On 4 May 2005 at 7:25, Shaun Canning wrote:
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland
with
wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to take *ist D etc. What do I
do? Do I:
1. Leave camera at home,
2. Leave wife and son at home,
3. Take son and
1. Explain how taking the *ist D will allow for a higher quality of pictures
of both your wife and your son.
2. Make her think you're doing it because SHE's important.
3. Explain that if you have the best tool for the job, you shold use it
instead of an inferior one.
4. If all else fails, beg.
Do what you want.
Deal with the consequences.
G
On May 3, 2005, at 4:25 PM, Shaun Canning wrote:
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North
Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
1. Leave camera at home,
2.
At 20:38 2005.05.03 -0400, you wrote:
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 07:25:29 +0800
From: Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Moral Dilemma
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We are about to
Henri:
Take it anyway, give her the creditcard and tell her to go shopping.
Godfrey:
Do what you want.
Deal with the consequences.
Both experienced husbands, I expect.
As another such, I suspect she is concerned that you will spend time taking
pictures rather than with her and the baby.
Tell her
P.S. This is a strategic and tactical dilemma, not a moral one.
Joe
On May 3, 2005, at 7:03 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
Both experienced husbands, I expect.
Experienced, yes.
Husband, no.
Godfrey
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 08:03:13PM -0600, Joseph Tainter wrote:
Henri:
Take it anyway, give her the creditcard and tell her to go shopping.
Godfrey:
Do what you want.
Deal with the consequences.
Both experienced husbands, I expect.
Tell her you'll leave the *ist-D at home if she leaves
The answer, of course, is to buy an SMC Pentax-DA 40mm f/2.8 Pancake
lens, and a vertical grip. Those two new components will change the
look of the *ist-D enough that you can trick her into believing you
complied with the request of leaving your *ist-D home. If she is
particularly
On 5/3/05, David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The answer, of course, is to buy an SMC Pentax-DA 40mm f/2.8 Pancake
lens, and a vertical grip. Those two new components will change the
look of the *ist-D enough that you can trick her into believing you
complied with the request of leaving
- Original Message -
From: Shaun Canning
Subject: Moral Dilemma
We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North
Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to
take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I:
1. Leave camera at home,
Correct answer.
William
You just became the biggest whipped man I know. Blue rare steaks, my eye! :)
Tom C.
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 21:26:25 -0600
- Original Message - From: Shaun Canning
- Original Message -
From: Tom C
Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma
You just became the biggest whipped man I know. Blue rare steaks, my eye!
:)
For this sacrifice, I'd be looking at a 4x5 rig for our next vacation..
William Robb
No, it's not just bad bokeh. Actually the bokeh isn't that bad.
Thanks for the specimen shot. As for the distinction you make
between swirlies and bokeh, I'm not sure that I agree with the
distinction (or, to be more specific, the necessity for such a
distinction). To me, swirlies still
Fred wrote:
No, it's not just bad bokeh. Actually the bokeh isn't that bad.
Thanks for the specimen shot. As for the distinction you make
between swirlies and bokeh, I'm not sure that I agree with the
distinction (or, to be more specific, the necessity for such a
distinction).
I
In a message dated 1/15/2003 12:58:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Thanks for the specimen shot. As for the distinction you make
between swirlies and bokeh, I'm not sure that I agree with the
distinction (or, to be more specific, the necessity for such a
distinction).
I think you answered your own dilemma about wording in this email:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
SNIPmost of the pictures taken with it look okay, not that
bad, with no obvious distortions, until it is zoomed to its
maximum focal length,
Begin Original Message
Put these words in the description.People will be agast at how
honest you are and just might bid :) :)
Dave(soon to be an ebayer to)Brooks
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
SNIPmost of the pictures taken with
In a message dated 1/14/2003 11:02:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Put these words in the description.People will be agast at how
honest you are and just might bid :) :)
Dave(soon to be an ebayer to)Brooks
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Sure those swirlies are not just poor bokeh??
Dave
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Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma re Selling on Ebay
In a message dated 1/14/2003 11:02:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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There is also a link with a photo that shows swirlies for those
who were wondering what they are.
So, are swirlies referring to the sort of concentric circular
bokeh effects, then?
Fred
I'd leave this bit out.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd leave this bit out.
It also takes okay pictures, not too bad, with no obvious distortions
until the zoom is extended to its maximum focal length, then it produces
swirlies. But the swirlies are not terrible, so it's adequate for the
student
Oh yeah, I used to have a Vivitar 70-210/4.5 that did the same thing at the long
endmight be the same lens under a different name, the pictures of the lens look
similar.
William in Utah.
1/14/2003 11:38:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd leave this bit out.
It also takes okay pictures, not too bad, with no obvious distortions
until the zoom is extended to its maximum focal length, then it
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