Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? > If I had to buy all new lenses for any DSLR, > I wouldnt buy a pentax DSLR. The main advantage > of buying a Pentax DSLR is if you already have > a bunch of Pentax Lenses. If you

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
higher level DSLR bodies with FF if wanted or needed... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Papenfuss Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:16 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? >> It must be nice

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
yep, I meant "comparing" instead of "using". Thanks for the clarification request. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Papenfuss Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:19 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: R

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Cory Papenfuss
> you are calling not performing as well. I dont > think its fair or show's much understanding > to describe them that way when you are using > DA lenses optimized for APS on APS with FF lenses > which are optimized for FF but not using > them FF and are only using them on APS. Sure This s

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Cory Papenfuss
>> It must be nice to be able to spend large sums of money to replace >> perfectly function lenses for a marginal increase in performance and >> functionality. Mandated deprication (read: loss of aperture coupler) >> aside, obtaining 95% of the optical performance for 10% of the expense >> so

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread J. C. O'Connell
rform the best DA lenses. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:02 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? On Feb 7, 2007, at 4:35 PM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: > It

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Tim Øsleby Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:43 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? I'm sorry to say this: Couldn't agree more ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 7, 2007, at 4:35 PM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: > It must be nice to be able to spend large sums of money to replace > perfectly function lenses for a marginal increase in performance and > functionality. Mandated deprication (read: loss of aperture coupler) > aside, obtaining 95% of the

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread Doug Franklin
graywolf wrote: > I will have you know that "I" have the maturity of a 10 year old. > So there! Yadda, yadda, ya! That's OK, 'cause I don't have any at all, so it still averages out to a five year old. ;-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.n

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread Cory Papenfuss
> Since I had a bunch of older lenses and have replaced them with the > latest and most current FA and DA lenses over the past year, I'll > assert from the practical experience of comparing my results directly > that the latest lenses perform better with my *ist DS and K10D than > the older lenses

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/07/07 6:35 PM, "William Robb", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you want/need AF, then legacy lenses are not as good. Next Pentax project after SR should be an in-body AF, making all MF lenses AF :-). Contax did it with a body-in-body weird solution. With much more compact image sensor, it s

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread Tim Øsleby
I'm sorry to say this: Couldn't agree more ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: 8. februar 2007 00:35 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS t

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? My statement came out too strong. My experience is limited. I should have said _I_ find nothing wrong with the legacy lenses I have _tried_. I think the point remains. We tend to uncritically assume

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Since I had a bunch of older lenses and have replaced them with the latest and most current FA and DA lenses over the past year, I'll assert from the practical experience of comparing my results directly that the latest lenses perform better with my *ist DS and K10D than the older lenses do

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread Tom C
From: Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:17:49 +0100 My statement came out too strong. My experience is limited. I should have said _I_ find not

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread Tim Øsleby
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: 7. februar 2007 22:33 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? - Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? > If I filter out the insults in this p

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread J. C. O'Connell
/3 is going to beat them) jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:33 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? - Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby&quo

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? > If I filter out the insults in this post I tend to agree. > There is nothing wrong about the legacy lenses, except a limitation or > two. > Why do we assume that the latest toys are the bes

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote: > I haven't done any objective testing (the swimming pools around here are > frozen over) You are TOO funny, Bill. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread Tim Øsleby
Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: 7. februar 2007 03:11 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? You are an [EMAIL PROTECTED] idiot to post such stupid nonsense. I dont "collect" ancient lenses and other "crap", I like to acquire high quality

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread P. J. Alling
A, maybe. Cotty wrote: > On 6/2/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >> Because we have the maturity level of a 5 year old? >> > > Now hold on old boy. Four, maybe. > > -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Ger

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread graywolf
I will have you know that "I" have the maturity of a 10 year old. So there! Yadda, yadda, ya! -graywolf (Hum...? My smell checkers do not recognize "yadda" as a proper word. Must not have asked any 10 year olds about it.) Doug Franklin wrote: > P. J. Alling wrote: >> Because we have the matur

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote: >> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> The cost of ownership of any camera is high when all you do is >> collect thousands of dollars worth of ancient lenses and other crap, >> and can't take a picture to save your life. >> >> For those who make a living with

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 07/02/07, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A filter is a wonderful thing. > Now I miss the inflamitory nonsense. > All I see are some ripples on the waters, > as others beat the idiot senseless. No, they're just fighting over the whoopee cushion. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
riginal Message - > > From: "J. C. O'Connell" > > Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? > > > > > >> You are one sick, deluded, puppy. I specifically state > >> that DSLRS are not cheap small mass market items for the > >> masses, > > >

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2007/02/06 Tue PM 11:06:47 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? > > The cost of ownership of any camera is high when all you do is > collect thousands of dollars worth of

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread David Savage
The ladies on the list bring up the average. :-) Cheers, Dave (the crawler) On 2/7/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/2/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Because we have the maturity level of a 5 year old? > > Now hold on old boy. Four, maybe. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss M

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-07 Thread Cotty
On 6/2/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: >Because we have the maturity level of a 5 year old? Now hold on old boy. Four, maybe. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pe

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
I was going to say that... David Savage wrote: > At 12:46 PM 7/02/2007, P. J. Alling wrote: > >> Because we have the maturity level of a 5 year old? >> > > ...combined maturity level? > > Cheers, > > Dave > > > >> Tom C wrote: >> I don't care what you state or think, or even w

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread David Savage
At 12:46 PM 7/02/2007, P. J. Alling wrote: >Because we have the maturity level of a 5 year old? ...combined maturity level? Cheers, Dave >Tom C wrote: > >> I don't care what you state or think, or even what the facts might or > >> might not be, John, when I respond to you. > >> > >> You're lik

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Doug Franklin
P. J. Alling wrote: > Because we have the maturity level of a 5 year old? Ding-ding-ding-ding. We have a winner! :-) We're (mostly) guys ... /OF COURSE/ we have the maturity of five year olds. :D -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Because we have the maturity level of a 5 year old? Tom C wrote: >> I don't care what you state or think, or even what the facts might or >> might not be, John, when I respond to you. >> >> You're like a whoopee cushion: you squeeze it and it makes a funny >> noise. People sit on it unawares and o

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? > > The question is begging to be asked then. Since you guys know the way > whoopee cushions work and what they do, and you've squeezed this one > before > and heard it's funny n

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread J. C. O'Connell
camera and pay for film/processing instead of a DSLR jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:25 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? It's all a big cycle. Digital cameras by their

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread J. C. O'Connell
AIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:07 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? The cost of ownership of any camera is high when all you do is collect thousands of dollars worth of ancient lenses and othe

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 6, 2007, at 5:03 PM, Tom C wrote: >> I don't care what you state or think, or even what the facts might or >> might not be, John, when I respond to you. >> >> You're like a whoopee cushion: you squeeze it and it makes a funny >> noise. People sit on it unawares and others think they've far

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good point. A lot of bear baiting going on around here. Paul On Feb 6, 2007, at 8:03 PM, Tom C wrote: >> I don't care what you state or think, or even what the facts might or >> might not be, John, when I respond to you. >> >> You're like a whoopee cushion: you squeeze it and it makes a funny >> n

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Tom C
>I don't care what you state or think, or even what the facts might or >might not be, John, when I respond to you. > >You're like a whoopee cushion: you squeeze it and it makes a funny >noise. People sit on it unawares and others think they've farted. >It's amusing for a little while. Then you get

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? > In a message dated 2/6/2007 1:43:53 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > You're like a whoopee cushion: you squeeze it and it makes a funny > noise. People

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2007 1:43:53 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You're like a whoopee cushion: you squeeze it and it makes a funny noise. People sit on it unawares and others think they've farted. It's amusing for a little while. Then you get bored, leave it on th

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
But they're expensive disposable cameras... William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "J. C. O'Connell" > Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? > > > >> You are one sick, deluded, puppy. I specifically state >> that DSLRS are n

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Thibouille
I know one would interpret this sentence ;) 2007/2/7, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Norm's chicks have dentures? > > William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Norm Baugher" > > Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? > >

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Norm's chicks have dentures? William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Norm Baugher" > Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? > > > >> You need to get out more, all my chicks have teeth. >> > > Norm, having them inden

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Tom C
MAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? >Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 15:06:47 -0800 > >The cost of ownership of any camera is high when all you do is >collect thousands of dollars worth of ancient lenses

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/06/07 5:56 PM, "J. C. O'Connell", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ok, but I said it recently too. Nothing has changed. > Cant see ANY contradictions though, the very fact > that they ARE "disposable" is what makes them expensive > to buy and "toss" in favor of something much better in only a few

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread J. C. O'Connell
ssage- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:33 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? &g

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The cost of ownership of any camera is high when all you do is collect thousands of dollars worth of ancient lenses and other crap, and can't take a picture to save your life. For those who make a living with a camera, a DSLR saves a tremendous amount of money over its useful lifespan. G O

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/2/07, Norm Baugher, discombobulated, unleashed: >You need to get out more, all my chicks have teeth. Their *own* teeth. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Ma

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread J. C. O'Connell
t but a few years of them and they rapidly depreciate in value due to rapid evolution. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:33 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? --

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Tom C
repairing the old. If my *ist D breaks it's going in the dumpster. Tom C. >From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? >Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 16:33:22

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread J. C. O'Connell
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thibouille Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:42 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? No. you're mistaken. 2007/2/6, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > the digital SLR camera market segment is not > about sma

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? > Correct. Nothing has changed since then and I think > you are wrong on the date, I said that in 2006. The DSLR BODIES > are still in the early evolving stage and they ARE > "

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Thibouille
cheap cameras for the masses. > jco > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Thibouille > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:45 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? > > > Yea

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread J. C. O'Connell
much better and at a price I can still afford. ( although I may sell my 5x7! ). JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Christian
J. C. O'Connell wrote: > the digital SLR camera market segment is not > about small cheap mass market items, its about > high image quality for the few willing to pay > for it. The digital p&s market is about small > cheap cameras for the masses. high image quality? I thought 4x5 film was about h

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread J. C. O'Connell
t Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? > You are one sick, deluded, puppy. I specifically state > that DSLRS are not cheap small mass market items for the masses, On October 20, 2004 you cal

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "J. C. O'Connell" > Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? > > >> You are one sick, deluded, puppy. I specifically state >> that DSLRS are not cheap small mass market items for the >> masses, >

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't care what you state or think, or even what the facts might or might not be, John, when I respond to you. You're like a whoopee cushion: you squeeze it and it makes a funny noise. People sit on it unawares and others think they've farted. It's amusing for a little while. Then you get

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? > You are one sick, deluded, puppy. I specifically state > that DSLRS are not cheap small mass market items for the > masses, On October 20, 2004 you called them disposable ca

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread J. C. O'Connell
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 3:13 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? On Feb 6, 2007, at 12:01 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > the digital SLR camera market segment is not > about small cheap mass market i

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Norm Baugher" Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? > You need to get out more, all my chicks have teeth. Norm, having them indentured to you isn't the same thing. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.ne

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 6, 2007, at 12:01 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > the digital SLR camera market segment is not > about small cheap mass market items, its about > high image quality for the few willing to pay > for it. Is that why you bought an obsoleted, older consumer model Pentax DSLR because it was as ch

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Norm Baugher
You need to get out more, all my chicks have teeth. Norm Thibouille wrote: > I'd really want... maybe when chicks will have teeth. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread J. C. O'Connell
] On Behalf Of Thibouille Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:45 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? Yeah that's why, historicaly, industry went from large/medium format to smaller format. Industry, mostly, don't care about what you/I/everyone else want/need

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Thibouille
Yeah that's why, historicaly, industry went from large/medium format to smaller format. Industry, mostly, don't care about what you/I/everyone else want/need. The industry only cares about how much money they will make selling this or that. If things are smaller they sell beter, and there's beter

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread J. C. O'Connell
: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? > all, but I really see FF digital, even from Pentax, > as inevitable evolution, regardless of whether the Semiconductors (i.e. sensors) get MUCH more expensive to produce than the simple increase in area they occupy. Som

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Norm Baugher
The big question is will they be compatible with tomorrow's HDTV systems. Norm J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Its not moot because the thread evolved into > discussion of future usability/performance of > FF vs. DA lenses and having no K mount FF camera today does > not preclude simple discussion of f

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Cory Papenfuss
> all, but I really see FF digital, even from Pentax, > as inevitable evolution, regardless of whether the Semiconductors (i.e. sensors) get MUCH more expensive to produce than the simple increase in area they occupy. Something like 10x-100x to produce FF as opposed to APS-sized IIRC.

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-06 Thread Cotty
On 5/2/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >You >acted semi-rationally for about three messages so I turned it off, Fatal mistake! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ --

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread Tom C
>This thread WAS about the dearth of used Pentax glass available at the >moment. >Your hijacking notwithstanding. >Until Pentax has a 24x36mm K mount DSLR on the ground, any further >discussion on this is moot. > >William Robb > Pentax is doomed. If I'm proved totally wrong, I'll be happy. They a

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:39 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? > But that's not what this thread was

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? > But that's not what this thread was all about. This thread WAS about the dearth of used Pentax glass available at the moment. Your hijacking notwithstanding. Until Pentax has a 24x3

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? JCO: Blow it out your shorts. G On Feb 5, 2007, at 6:02 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "J. C. O'Connell" > Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? > > >> Your "do not care" argument does

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:02 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? > Your "do not

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? > Your "do not care" argument does not change > any of the facts in my post You ignore the fact that the DA lenses are outperforming FA lenses right now. What happens in a few

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
JCO: Blow it out your shorts. G On Feb 5, 2007, at 6:02 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "J. C. O'Connell" > Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? > > >> Your "do not care" argument does not change >> any of t

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread David J Brooks
Looksw like gmail filters work very well. Go Godders go Dave On 2/5/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You always miss the point, JCO. You've been missing the point on > every thread you abscond with for the two years I've been on this > mailing list because you're obsessed with y

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell
007 6:27 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? You always miss the point, JCO. You've been missing the point on every thread you abscond with for the two years I've been on this mailing list because you're obsessed with your and only your point of vi

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell
dont matter in the real world, they ARE real world issues related to lens type used and sensor types used. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 6:27 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re:

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread Tim Øsleby
NO FS this Friday? The Pope has a new beard? Why am I always the last to know? -- Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tim Øsleby > Sent: 05 February 2007 18:33 > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' > Subject: R

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread mike wilson
half Of Tim Øsleby >>Sent: 05 February 2007 18:33 >>To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >>Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? >> >>I don't get this. What matters (for me) is that the DA does a >>similar or >>better job. The reasons why they do are as

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread P. J. Alling
y 2007 18:33 >> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >> Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? >> >> I don't get this. What matters (for me) is that the DA does a >> similar or >> better job. The reasons why they do are as interesting as the >> po

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
You always miss the point, JCO. You've been missing the point on every thread you abscond with for the two years I've been on this mailing list because you're obsessed with your and only your point of view on anything in the known universe. Let me respond in little tiny words that even you m

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell
] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:58 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? If a new camera that requires new lenses comes out, I'll decide whether to buy it and whatever new lenses I need for it at that time. G -- PDML Pentax-Di

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread Bob W
> > > The Pope has a new beard? Why am I always the last to know? > > Yer probably an Anglican. > I'm half Catholic. They should at least tell me about his moustache. -- Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

MARK! Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread Tom C
William Robb wrote: "The future will look out for itself, and I'll reckon with it when I need to." :-) Tom C. >From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? > But you wont be able to if you traded away all your Pentax > FF lenses for DA lenses will you without buying them > all over again! You are, of course, presuming that there is a 24x

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "K.Takeshita" Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? > >> If a new camera that requires new lenses comes out, I'll decide >> whether to buy it and whatever new lenses I need for it at that time. > > Of course "everybody

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? The Pope has a new beard? Why am I always the last to know? Yer probably an Anglican. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/05/07 3:58 PM, "Godfrey DiGiorgi", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If a new camera that requires new lenses comes out, I'll decide > whether to buy it and whatever new lenses I need for it at that time. Of course "everybody" here thinks so, but saying so will turn everybody off too, Godfrey :-)

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If a new camera that requires new lenses comes out, I'll decide whether to buy it and whatever new lenses I need for it at that time. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread Bob W
The Pope has a new beard? Why am I always the last to know? -- Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tim Øsleby > Sent: 05 February 2007 18:33 > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' > Subject: RE: NO FS t

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? When there exists a "FF" Pentax digital SLR to work with, I'll consider what turd to polish and whether it looks more lovely. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
When there exists a "FF" Pentax digital SLR to work with, I'll consider what turd to polish and whether it looks more lovely. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell
D] On Behalf Of Tim Øsleby Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 1:33 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? I don't get this. What matters (for me) is that the DA does a similar or better job. The reasons why they do are as interesting as the popes new beard IMO.

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread Tim Øsleby
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: 4. februar 2007 02:53 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? I think you are mistaken because full frame lenses only need to have 2/3 the resolution to MATCH/BEAT DA lenses in terms of overall resolution. you

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-04 Thread Amita Guha
On 2/2/07, cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Man, the lens pickens are SLIM... There's like three lenses total at KEH, > Ebay looks to have been picked over like last week's kill, and nothing at > all offered on the PDML... Well, I just put my FA 300mm up on ebay tonight... http://cgi.ebay.c

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-04 Thread Thibouille
But you and I might be sekeleton pieces before that happens, if it happens at all. In this case who has been waiting all his life for something that would never happen and as a consequence use less than ideal quality optics? Using DA lenses, at least, you know what you use NOW is the best possible

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 3, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > I'm in an argumentative mood, can you tell? Mark! G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-03 Thread David Savage
.3 crop, which would be find. But full frame ain't gonna > >> happen. The cards have already been dealt. > >> Paul > >> On Feb 3, 2007, at 11:08 AM, William Robb wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> - Original Message - > >>>

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