Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-09 Thread mike wilson
P. J. Alling wrote: And where in Hell would I get a virgin? If you live there, you have greater worries than the availability of virgins. On 9/7/2010 1:29 PM, Bob W wrote: http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-6031733.html 11. Sacrifice a virgin -- PDML

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-09 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't live there, just close enough to visit... On 9/9/2010 1:41 PM, mike wilson wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: And where in Hell would I get a virgin? If you live there, you have greater worries than the availability of virgins. On 9/7/2010 1:29 PM, Bob W wrote:

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
. From: drd1...@gmail.com Star Trek convention. -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:43:48 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT PC

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-08 Thread steve harley
On 2010-09-06 12:03 , Adam Maas wrote: Any SFF PC with an 80W PSU and a laptop CPU, HDD and optical drive? These are not exactly uncommon.The Mini's specs are unexceptional i looked pretty hard for the counterexamples to which you allude ... really couldn't find anything solid; most 80-watt

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-08 Thread John Sessoms
-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT PC thingies And where in Hell would I get a virgin? On 9/7/2010 1:29 PM, Bob W wrote: http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-6031733.html 11. Sacrifice a virgin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling
:48 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT PC thingies And where in Hell would I get a virgin? On 9/7/2010 1:29 PM, Bob W wrote: http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-6031733.html 11. Sacrifice a virgin

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-07 Thread eckinator
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-6031733.html Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

RE: OT PC thingies

2010-09-07 Thread Bob W
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-6031733.html 11. Sacrifice a virgin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-07 Thread mike wilson
Adam Maas wrote: On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 4:32 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Adam Maas wrote: I've priced this and you can almost always get a pre-built system cheaper than a home-built system. It's been about a decade since building your own was a good economic choice. The

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-07 Thread eckinator
2010/9/7 Bob W p...@web-options.com: 11. Sacrifice a virgin Reminds me A guy from (insert local idiot region here) was driving when he came onto a police roadblock. They shone their light in his face and told him they were looking for a rapist. He says no he hasn't seen one and is allowed to go

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-07 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: If you have your serial numbers for CS2, installers can be found online. -Adam I should have them in my files. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-07 Thread P. J. Alling
And where in Hell would I get a virgin? On 9/7/2010 1:29 PM, Bob W wrote: http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-6031733.html 11. Sacrifice a virgin -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-07 Thread drd1135
Star Trek convention. -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:43:48 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT PC thingies And where in Hell

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-06 Thread eckinator
Totally not. Unless you /rally/ like the case that is... The point I was making was that all cost considered some people may just have to find it sensible to put a few dollars into an old box just because the new box would also require tons of software purchases. And as for XP mode, Adam, if

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-06 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Sep 5, 2010, at 10:19 , David J Brooks wrote: One reason i am hesitant on the iMac over a new PC is, the calibration for photo work. I am comfortable using the PC and get great results with may antiquated set up as is. I'm just not sure about the Mac settings on my iBook for prints, they

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-06 Thread pnstenquist
I have an iMac 24, a 2009 model. With the brightness turned all the way down and the monitor calibrated with my Spyder 2, the prints on both my R2400 and R2880 are a virtual perfect match for the monitor. And the publishers I shoot for find the levels of my files spot on -- as does the

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-06 Thread David J Brooks
MyiBook has not had any colour management done to it. Its what is is from when i first turned it on. I was never sure if i needed to run coloursync or what. I seem to not be able to find the screens needed to set the way the Epson 2400 works, like on my PC. For example to click the boxes for let

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-06 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: You can use the old drive as a slave, but any programs you want on the new machine will need to be reinstalled, most software cannot simply be copied over (One place where Mac's are clearly better than PC's). If you don't have

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-06 Thread eckinator
2010/9/6 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: You can use the old drive as a slave, but any programs you want on the new machine will need to be reinstalled, most software cannot simply be copied over (One place where Mac's are clearly better than PC's). If you don't have install media for

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-06 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:31 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Different story - he copied (by imagaing etc) the entire contents of your old disk onto the new one, expanded the partition to match the bigger disk size (or created another partition to use that space) and then marked the

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-06 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:11 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: You can use the old drive as a slave, but any programs you want on the new machine will need to be reinstalled, most software cannot simply be copied over

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-06 Thread steve harley
On 2010-09-05 14:47 , Adam Maas wrote: Actually, the Batteries are a current low point. Good life at the cost of a shop-run to replace. for most people it's a real win; i didn't like it either in concept, but in practice the battery performance is so good i'd still be happy with Apple's

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-06 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 1:38 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2010-09-05 14:47 , Adam Maas wrote: The Mini's power draw is nothing special, any laptop-based SFF PC will have similar draw the mini uses 85 watts max, 10 at idle; can you name a machine that uses less power and

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-06 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:11 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: You can use the old drive as a slave, but any programs you want on the new machine will need

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-06 Thread David J Brooks
One thing i noticed yesterday when i was trying to figure out my problems and noticed one thing. Up until a few weeks ago i was running McAfee basic virus and firewall. Now i see I'm running the Premium version. Some were along the line, McAfee updated itself to the higher version. Could this

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-06 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 2:39 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:11 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: You can use the old

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-06 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: When my iLust threatened to burst out of my trousers I cured it with Dell. MARK! snip But ask any of my girlfriends - looks don't matter much, it's performance that counts*. Bob *I should put that on a t-shirt and sell it

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-06 Thread John Sessoms
From: eckinator Hi Dave (comments interspersed) Well my 2001 PC is acting up again. Not allowing me to boot. I seem to be able to get into it via the safemode, F8 key. First things first, do you have a backup of all data on the system? Also, have you tried logging in as a different user?

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread eckinator
Hi Dave (comments interspersed) Well my 2001 PC is acting up again. Not allowing me to boot. I seem to be able to get into it via the safemode, F8 key. First things first, do you have a backup of all data on the system? Also, have you tried logging in as a different user? Same problem? - I

RE: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Bob W
[...] - I may have to buy a new computer. As much as i like my iBook, I may just go with another PC, something along the lines of a mid range HP or get one built, by a computer company that was highly recommended to me for around $6-700. Looking at the iMac but at $1300 plus taxes, is a

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 9:17 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dave (comments interspersed) Well my 2001 PC is acting up again. Not allowing me to boot. I seem to be able to get into it via the safemode, F8 key. First things first, do you have a backup of all data on the system?

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread eckinator
2010/9/5 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: Yes i do. Great =) Way to go, eh! Can't. I turn it on and get the Intel splash screen then a Dos promt saying boot failure. Does this happen more often when the PC hasn't been on for a few days? I highly doubt this would be the cause but would

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
if I needed Windows, Id get a refurb, last series iMac or MacBook Pro. Max out the RAM, put a big HD in it, install Windows. Right there you can boot either Win or Mac at your discretion. Install Parallels and you can run both at the same time. Best of both worlds. Do not put money into a 2001

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread eckinator
2010/9/5 Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com: Do not put money into a 2001 computer. That's a waste of money IMO. Depends. Buy a new box, get Windows 7, update all now incompatible software, possibly (and sensibly so) choose 64 bit and be forced to update even more... costly collaterals... one

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: if I needed Windows, Id get a refurb, last series iMac or MacBook Pro. Max out the RAM, put a big HD in it, install Windows. Right there you can boot either Win or Mac at your discretion. Install Parallels and you can

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 11:13 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/9/5 Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com: Do not put money into a 2001 computer. That's a waste of money IMO. Depends. Buy a new box, get Windows 7, update all now incompatible software, possibly (and sensibly so)

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/9/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: ow that Macs are Unix boxes running on Intel hardware there isn't enough to distinguish them from PCs to make them worth spending the extra money on in my opinion, I agree. Except for one small thingthe OS. ;-) Asbestos suit on - nya nya nya nay

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread eckinator
2010/9/5 Cotty cotty...@mac.com: I agree. Except for one small thingthe OS. ;-) Asbestos suit on - nya nya nya nay nyaa. I never cease to be amazed by how many people by a Mac and pay for MacOS just to go on and use Windows on a pretty box... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: You can get a better spec on a new Windows machine for the same or even less money than a Mac Refurb. If you don't need OS X, skip the Macbooks and iMac's. The only Mac's which are competitive in terms of bang/buck at the moment are

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
No 2001 generation computer is worth the cost of updating all the hardware to make it useful for Windows 7 and 64bit operation. That's logic board, graphics adapter, power supply, RAM, etc etc etc. Buy a new computer. On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:13 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/9/5

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: You can get a better spec on a new Windows machine for the same or even less money than a Mac Refurb. If you don't need OS X, skip the Macbooks and iMac's.

RE: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Bob W
On 5/9/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: ow that Macs are Unix boxes running on Intel hardware there isn't enough to distinguish them from PCs to make them worth spending the extra money on in my opinion, I agree. Except for one small thingthe OS. ;-) Asbestos suit on - nya

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 5/9/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: ow that Macs are Unix boxes running on Intel hardware there isn't enough to distinguish them from PCs to make them worth spending the extra money on in my opinion, I agree. Except

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 10:04 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/9/5 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: Yes i do. Great =) Way to go, eh! Can't. I turn it on and get the Intel splash screen then a Dos promt saying boot failure. Does this happen more often when the PC hasn't

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Hold on a minute guys. I gotta go and make popcorn. On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:14 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 10:04 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/9/5 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: Yes i do. Great =) Way to go, eh! Can't. I turn

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 11:13 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/9/5 Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com: Do not put money into a 2001 computer. That's a waste of money IMO. Depends. Buy a new box, get Windows 7, update all now incompatible software, possibly (and sensibly so)

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Hold on a minute guys.  I gotta go and make popcorn. Was not intending an OS war, but i guess this usually happens doesn't it.:-) My other concern is the video card. What should i look for in a Dell or HP, and what

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread David J Brooks
Also have programs on the HD that i will not be able to put on a new computer, so i intend to have the pld HD mapped over to the new one, and possibly use the older one as a slave drive, if thats a current computer term anymore. Is it necessary to map everything over, or can i ask them to just map

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:23 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Hold on a minute guys.  I gotta go and make popcorn. Was not intending an OS war, but i guess this usually happens doesn't it.:-) My other

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread mike wilson
David J Brooks wrote: On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Hold on a minute guys. I gotta go and make popcorn. Was not intending an OS war, but i guess this usually happens doesn't it.:-) My other concern is the video card. What should i look for in

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:25 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Also have programs on the HD that i will not be able to put on a new computer, so i intend to have the pld HD mapped over to the new one, and possibly use the older one as a slave drive, if thats a current computer term

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread mike wilson
David J Brooks wrote: Also have programs on the HD that i will not be able to put on a new computer, so i intend to have the pld HD mapped over to the new one, and possibly use the older one as a slave drive, if thats a current computer term anymore. Is it necessary to map everything over, or

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:39 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Also have programs on the HD that i will not be able to put on a new computer, so i intend to have the pld HD mapped over to the new one, and possibly use the older one as a slave drive, if thats

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-09-05 9:06, David J Brooks wrote: - I may have to buy a new computer. As much as i like my iBook, I may just go with another PC, something along the lines of a mid range HP or get one built, by a computer company that was highly recommended to me for around $6-700 Personally, I'd go

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread steve harley
On 2010-09-05 10:56 , Adam Maas wrote: I'm talking Dell, HP, Toshiba and Lenovo here. Similar quality components, sometimes better (HP for example uses Asus MB's on their desktops, better quality boards than the Mac desktop boards aside from the Mac Pro's). The components used in the non-Pro

RE: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread J.C. O'Connell
- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Doug Franklin Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 11:05 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT PC thingies On 2010-09-05 9:06, David J Brooks wrote: - I may have to buy a new computer. As much as i like my iBook, I

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread steve harley
On 2010-09-05 11:12 , Adam Maas wrote: the OS is Unix. Do you mean the window manager? That's something of a Myth. OS X is not actually Unix. It's a Mach Microkernel running a BSD userspace alongside a separate but integrated Carbon/Cocoa GUI userspace. [...] You could actually rip out the

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread mike wilson
Adam Maas wrote: I've priced this and you can almost always get a pre-built system cheaper than a home-built system. It's been about a decade since building your own was a good economic choice. The biggest reason to build your own system is to get a specific parts selection, but you'll pay at

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 4:12 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2010-09-05 10:56 , Adam Maas wrote: I'm talking Dell, HP, Toshiba and Lenovo here. Similar quality components, sometimes better (HP for example uses Asus MB's on their desktops, better quality boards than the Mac

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 4:32 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Adam Maas wrote: I've priced this and you can almost always get a pre-built system cheaper than a home-built system. It's been about a decade since building your own was a good economic choice. The biggest reason to

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread drd1135
Damn, out of popcorn. Hang on while I run to the kitchen. -Original Message- From: Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 16:47:22 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT PC thingies

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread paul stenquist
to the kitchen. -Original Message- From: Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 16:47:22 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT PC thingies On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 4:12 PM, steve

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
a...@mawz.ca Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 16:47:22 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT PC thingies On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 4:12 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2010-09-05 10:56 , Adam Maas

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread P. J. Alling
On 9/5/2010 9:31 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 9:17 AM, eckinatoreckina...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dave (comments interspersed) Well my 2001 PC is acting up again. Not allowing me to boot. I seem to be able to get into it via the safemode, F8 key. First things first, do you

Re: OT PC thingies

2010-09-05 Thread Rob Studdert
On 6 September 2010 03:23, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: My other concern is the video card. What should i look for in a Dell or HP, and what should i ask the computer builder for.?? Try to get a box new or used with a PCI-E X-16 slot for your graphics card. The best value card for