Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-05 Thread John Sessoms
From: paul stenquist On Dec 5, 2010, at 7:32 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: eckinator 2010/12/5 John Francis : For around half the weight (and half the maximum aperture) you could have one with a slightly longer reach that was compatible with your existing equipment. ?The trick is to find o

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-05 Thread paul stenquist
On Dec 5, 2010, at 7:32 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: eckinator > >> 2010/12/5 John Francis : >>> > >>> > For around half the weight (and half the maximum aperture) you could have >>> > one with a slightly longer reach that was compatible with your existing >>> > equipment. ?The trick is to fi

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-05 Thread eckinator
2010/12/6 John Sessoms : > > Every once in a while, just for giggles & grins, I search for "Pentax 800mm > f4". Always turns the same one up, listed as "In Stock, Used" - priced > something like $7600 with a button for "Make an Offer". http://www.h1photo.com/pen29434.html - That one right there?

Re: Teleconverters

2010-12-05 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-12-05 13:14, Eric Weir wrote: Looks like I won't be getting the A2XS. The bidding's gotten to high for me. Wow! With the prices I see on ebay, maybe I should sell all my Pentax gear and retire! I shudder to think what it would cost to replace just the F* 300/4.5 and FA* 200/2.8.

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-05 Thread John Sessoms
From: eckinator 2010/12/5 John Francis : > > For around half the weight (and half the maximum aperture) you could have > one with a slightly longer reach that was compatible with your existing > equipment. ?The trick is to find one at around half the price, too :-) > > > ? ?http://www.panix.com

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-05 Thread P. J. Alling
I haven't noticed any more degradation but you must remember an 8x10" enlargement from 35mm film roughly 8.5x while and from an aps-c enlargement you're talking a 13x enlargement, so any defects in the image will be more visible in the latter case. However you will be taking the center portion

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-05 Thread eckinator
2010/12/5 John Francis : > > For around half the weight (and half the maximum aperture) you could have > one with a slightly longer reach that was compatible with your existing > equipment.  The trick is to find one at around half the price, too :-) > > >    http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/FatAlbe

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-05 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 10:28:29AM +0100, eckinator wrote: > 2010/12/5 John Sessoms : > > > > Yup. Sometimes if you can afford it, you get the tools you want. Most of the > > time you use the tools you already have. That's why I'm shooting with the > > 300mm I've got and not the 600mm I'd have if m

Re: Teleconverters

2010-12-05 Thread Eric Weir
Looks like I won't be getting the A2XS. The bidding's gotten to high for me. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/list

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-05 Thread eckinator
btw just enabled myself with the Bower I mentioned in a previous reply on this thread - eBay steal for € 22 thanks to a poorly described listing - now I'll find out first hand how good or bad it really is =) cheers ecke 2010/12/5 eckinator : > 2010/12/5 John Sessoms : >> >> Yup. Sometimes if you c

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-05 Thread eckinator
2010/12/5 John Sessoms : > > Yup. Sometimes if you can afford it, you get the tools you want. Most of the > time you use the tools you already have. That's why I'm shooting with the > 300mm I've got and not the 600mm I'd have if money grew on trees. the other day on eBay Germany, two new Sigma 200

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-04 Thread John Sessoms
From: Doug Franklin On 2010-12-04 10:12, John Sessoms wrote: > The long tele-photo prime without tele-converter is always going to > trump the medium tele-photo prime with tele-converter. And both of them > will give sharper images without the TC than a long zoom with the TC will. I can affor

Re: Teleconverters

2010-12-04 Thread Eric Weir
On Dec 4, 2010, at 7:15 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > On 12/2/2010 6:48 PM, Eric Weir wrote: >> On Dec 2, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: >> >>> I like both TC's. However, since I got my hands on the 1.7X AF, >>> I prefer it. The AF adds some convenience. >>> >> Dumb question now. I think I

Re: Teleconverters

2010-12-04 Thread P. J. Alling
On 12/2/2010 6:48 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Dec 2, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: I've used two TC's: A2X-S and F 1.7X AF, both mostly for "macro" (or close-distance) shots. Here is an example of my first use of the A2x-S (with a zoom - since you asked): http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOT

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-04 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "P N Stenquist" Subject: Re: Teleconverters? On Dec 4, 2010, at 10:12 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: "Peter Loveday" Ken Waller and his 600mm is always gonna beat you

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-04 Thread Ken Waller
Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" Subject: Re: Teleconverters? From: "Peter Loveday" Ken Waller and his 600mm is always gonna beat you and your 300mm w/TC. > Thanks for the confidence Bob, but equipment will only take you so > far... > ;+} Indeed. It'

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-04 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-12-04 10:12, John Sessoms wrote: The long tele-photo prime without tele-converter is always going to trump the medium tele-photo prime with tele-converter. And both of them will give sharper images without the TC than a long zoom with the TC will. I can afford a 400mm lens and a 2x con

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-04 Thread P N Stenquist
On Dec 4, 2010, at 10:12 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: "Peter Loveday" > Ken Waller and his 600mm is always gonna beat you and your 300mm w/TC. >>> > Thanks for the confidence Bob, but equipment will only take you so far... >>> > ;+} >> Indeed. It's not about the equipment. A *great* ph

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-04 Thread Eric Weir
On Dec 4, 2010, at 10:12 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > I apologize for the rant. No need. Well put. And well taken -- by this member, anyway. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pent

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-04 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Peter Loveday" Ken Waller and his 600mm is always gonna beat you and your 300mm w/TC. > Thanks for the confidence Bob, but equipment will only take you so far... > ;+} Indeed. It's not about the equipment. A *great* photographer can make a 10mm fisheye look like a 600mm tele :) But

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-03 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Peter Loveday" Subject: Re: Teleconverters? Ken Waller and his 600mm is always gonna beat you and your 300mm w/TC. Thanks for the confidence Bob, but equipment will only take

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-03 Thread Peter Loveday
Ken Waller and his 600mm is always gonna beat you and your 300mm w/TC. Thanks for the confidence Bob, but equipment will only take you so far... ;+} Indeed. It's not about the equipment. A *great* photographer can make a 10mm fisheye look like a 600mm tele :) - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Dis

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-03 Thread paul stenquist
On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:48 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" > Subject: Re: Teleconverters? > > >> Mark, >> Lovely photo and appropria

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-03 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: Teleconverters? Mark, Lovely photo and appropriate way to evaluate TC images. They help you get something better, but don't expect miracles. Ken

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-03 Thread Eric Weir
On Dec 3, 2010, at 4:53 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > The Kenko AF converter would not require you to have auto-focus lenses, but > the capability would be there for the future if you ever wanted it. You > wouldn't have to buy another converter to add auto-focus. > > In the meantime, the Kenko con

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-03 Thread Walter Gilbert
Thankfully, he had it within his heart not to say so. -- Walt On 12/3/2010 2:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Agreed! What was the lens? He probably just used a lensbaby with the teleconverter, just to show us up. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-03 Thread Walter Gilbert
Well, if you ever decide to rid yourself of all your material possessions in order to achieve spiritual enlightenment, I call dibs. -- Walt On 12/3/2010 2:15 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Walter Gilbert wrote: Agreed! What was the lens? For this? http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: Eric Weir On Dec 2, 2010, at 8:06 PM, John Sessoms wrote: The only advantage is it will work with the manual focus lenses you have now and will work with AF lenses in the future without having to buy another converter. It just has the contacts the AF lenses will need if you ever do decide

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Walter Gilbert wrote: > Agreed! > >What was the lens? For this? http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d904208.htm Pentax FA*300/2.8 with Sigma EX Series 2x teleconverter. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE fr

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: > Agreed! > > What was the lens? He probably just used a lensbaby with the teleconverter, just to show us up. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-03 Thread Walter Gilbert
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: Teleconverters? Ken Waller wrote: When using them is the difference of getting/not getting the image I want - I use them. I can't say the loss of resolution and contrast has been

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
nal Message - From: "Mark Roberts" > Subject: Re: Teleconverters? > > >> Ken Waller wrote: >> >>> When using them is the difference of getting/not getting the image I want >>> - >>> I use them. >>> I can't say the loss o

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-03 Thread Ken Waller
A very good, vivid & well focused image ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: Teleconverters? Ken Waller wrote: When using them is the difference of getting/not getting the image I

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-03 Thread Eric Weir
On Dec 3, 2010, at 7:03 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Same here. As someone on the PDML once pointed out, the correct > comparison isn't between one lens with a teleconverter and another > lens of the resulting focal length; the proper comparison is between a > photo using the teleconverter and photo

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-03 Thread Eric Weir
On Dec 3, 2010, at 12:09 AM, paul stenquist wrote: >> So the "A" in "A2X-S" has nothing to do with the "A" as in an "A" lens? And >> A lenses will be essentially M lenses when used with this convertor? >> > No, i's an "A" converter. You'll get auto exposure with it when using an > A-Series o

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-03 Thread Eric Weir
On Dec 2, 2010, at 11:22 PM, Peter Loveday wrote: > No not at all, the 2XS-A (and all -A) convertor has the A contacts. Ah! I was hoping so. Thanks, Peter. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Mark, Lovely photo and appropriate way to evaluate TC images. They help you get something better, but don't expect miracles. Ken Waller and his 600mm is always gonna beat you and your 300mm w/TC. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 6:03 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Ken Waller wrote: > >>When usi

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Ken Waller wrote: >When using them is the difference of getting/not getting the image I want - >I use them. >I can't say the loss of resolution and contrast has been an issue for me in >their usage. Same here. As someone on the PDML once pointed out, the correct comparison isn't between one len

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread paul stenquist
On Dec 2, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > > On Dec 2, 2010, at 8:06 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > >> The only advantage is it will work with the manual focus lenses you have now >> and will work with AF lenses in the future without having to buy another >> converter. It just has the contact

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Peter Loveday
No not at all, the 2XS-A (and all -A) convertor has the A contacts. - Peter -Original Message- From: Eric Weir Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 2:02 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Teleconverters? On Dec 2, 2010, at 8:06 PM, John Sessoms wrote: The only advantage is it

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Eric Weir
On Dec 2, 2010, at 8:06 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > The only advantage is it will work with the manual focus lenses you have now > and will work with AF lenses in the future without having to buy another > converter. It just has the contacts the AF lenses will need if you ever do > decide to try

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: Eric Weir On Dec 2, 2010, at 9:34 AM, eckinator wrote: > You may want to shop for the Kenko MC7 Pz-Af teleconverter - it is > optically fairly good with 7 elements and couples all mount contacts > including SDM and/or power soom. It also comes branded as Bower and > Soligor. On eBay Germa

Re: Teleconverters

2010-12-02 Thread Eric Weir
On Dec 2, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: > I've used two TC's: A2X-S and F 1.7X AF, > both mostly for "macro" (or close-distance) shots. > > Here is an example of my first use of the A2x-S (with a zoom - since you > asked): > http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/WildAnimalPark/IMGP5086w2.

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Eric Weir
On Dec 2, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: > I've used my Promaster 7-element 2X teleconverter with my 50-200mm kit > lens to shoot birds and gotten *decent* results as long as the birds > cooperated and as long as I stayed away from the farthest reaches of the > lens. Of course,

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Eric Weir
On Dec 2, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > I currently have the rear convertor A-1.4 X-S, X-1.4X-L and A2.0X-L & have > used them extensively when needed without any particular issue. The A2.0X-L > is the least used for me. > > They're a great way to extend your 'photo reach' relatively c

RE: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Bob W
> > I wouldn't put it to use immediately, but I've got my eye on > a Pentax 2X Teleconverter-A. I know nothing about > teleconverters. General advice would be welcome as well as > comments specifically about this one. > > I haven't really done any wildlife photography, but it's on > my agen

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Walter Gilbert
Duly noted, and much appreciated. -- Walt On 12/2/2010 4:39 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Yes! Jack --- On Thu, 12/2/10, Walter Gilbert wrote: From: Walter Gilbert Subject: Re: Teleconverters? To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 2:36 PM Speaking of

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Jack Davis
Yes! Jack --- On Thu, 12/2/10, Walter Gilbert wrote: > From: Walter Gilbert > Subject: Re: Teleconverters? > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 2:36 PM >     Speaking of which, do > TC's have as noticeable an impact on IQ when

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Walter Gilbert
Speaking of which, do TC's have as noticeable an impact on IQ when used on film bodies as they do on DSLRs? -- Walt On 12/2/2010 4:28 PM, Miserere wrote: On 2 December 2010 15:53, J.C. O'Connell wrote: FWIW, I have refrained from using TCs because of the simple fact there is a slight loss

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Miserere
On 2 December 2010 15:53, J.C. O'Connell wrote: > FWIW, I have refrained from using TCs because > of the simple fact there is a slight loss in > resolution and contrast(added flare). Somehow > prime lenses don't feel right with TCs added on. > I stopped using TCs because they're obsolete in the d

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Jack Davis
Same has been true for me, Ken. I've never used anything beyond a 1.4, so have been conservative and thus conditionally pleased with the results. Jack --- On Thu, 12/2/10, Ken Waller wrote: > From: Ken Waller > Subject: Re: Teleconverters? > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-12-02 16:14, Ken Waller wrote: When using them is the difference of getting/not getting the image I want - I use them. I can't say the loss of resolution and contrast has been an issue for me in their usage. Ditto. When I use one, I'm typically adding it to a long lens to get more re

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "J.C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: Teleconverters? FWIW, I have refrained from using TCs because of the simple fact there is a slight loss in resolution and contrast(added flare)

RE: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread J.C. O'Connell
ussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ken Waller Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:49 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Teleconverters? I

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Ken Waller
I've always been of the mindset to use converters from the same maker as the lens, tho I have never evaluated brand X convertors on brand Y lenses. I currently have the rear convertor A-1.4 X-S, X-1.4X-L and A2.0X-L & have used them extensively when needed without any particular issue. The A2.0

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Jack Davis
The "L" version sold for more when I bought my "new" 1.4. Jack --- On Thu, 12/2/10, paul stenquist wrote: > From: paul stenquist > Subject: Re: Teleconverters? > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 10:51 AM > They

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread paul stenquist
lenses." > The exact wording notwithstanding in the absence of any further research. > > Jack > > --- On Thu, 12/2/10, P N Stenquist wrote: > >> From: P N Stenquist >> Subject: Re: Teleconverters? >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> D

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Jack Davis
sence of any further research. Jack --- On Thu, 12/2/10, P N Stenquist wrote: > From: P N Stenquist > Subject: Re: Teleconverters? > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 9:47 AM > The A2X-S and A2X-L were originally > the same price if I recal

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread P N Stenquist
recessed rear lens > element. > You've doubtless considered it, but the lesser powered converters (1.7, 1.4) > tend to produce somewhat better IQ at the obvious loss of power. > > Jack > > --- On Thu, 12/2/10, P N Stenquist wrote: > >> From: P N Stenquist

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Walter Gilbert
I've used my Promaster 7-element 2X teleconverter with my 50-200mm kit lens to shoot birds and gotten *decent* results as long as the birds cooperated and as long as I stayed away from the farthest reaches of the lens. Of course, the maximum aperture on the 50-200 is f/4, so I couldn't re

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Jack Davis
t the lesser powered converters (1.7, 1.4) tend to produce somewhat better IQ at the obvious loss of power. Jack --- On Thu, 12/2/10, P N Stenquist wrote: > From: P N Stenquist > Subject: Re: Teleconverters? > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010,

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread P N Stenquist
On Dec 2, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Eric Weir wrote: > > On Dec 2, 2010, at 10:23 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: > >> The A 2X teleconverters are very good optically. Of course because you're >> adding glass, a lens plus converter can never match the performance of the >> lens alone, but the A 2X converte

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Eric Weir
On Dec 2, 2010, at 10:23 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: > The A 2X teleconverters are very good optically. Of course because you're > adding glass, a lens plus converter can never match the performance of the > lens alone, but the A 2X converters are among the best I've seen. Note that I > said "con

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread P N Stenquist
The A 2X teleconverters are very good optically. Of course because you're adding glass, a lens plus converter can never match the performance of the lens alone, but the A 2X converters are among the best I've seen. Note that I said "converters," because there are two. The A2X-L can only be used

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Eric Weir
On Dec 2, 2010, at 9:34 AM, eckinator wrote: > You may want to shop for the Kenko MC7 Pz-Af teleconverter - it is > optically fairly good with 7 elements and couples all mount contacts > including SDM and/or power soom. It also comes branded as Bower and > Soligor. On eBay Germany they typically

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Eric Weir
On Dec 2, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Eric, I had a couple non-Pentax tele-converters. One I used as such another > was purely macro converter. Both were only so-so though macro converter > wasn't all that bad. They eat light so that if you mount 200/2.8 on 2x tele > converter, y

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread eckinator
You may want to shop for the Kenko MC7 Pz-Af teleconverter - it is optically fairly good with 7 elements and couples all mount contacts including SDM and/or power soom. It also comes branded as Bower and Soligor. On eBay Germany they typically sell between 50 and 125 €, dunno about US price levels

Re: Teleconverters?

2010-12-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 12/2/2010 4:26 PM, Eric Weir wrote: I wouldn't put it to use immediately, but I've got my eye on a Pentax 2X Teleconverter-A. I know nothing about teleconverters. General advice would be welcome as well as comments specifically about this one. I haven't really done any wildlife photography,

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-09 Thread Fred
> the L teleconverters work on a very limited number of lenses. the 2X-L > protrudes almost an inch in front of the mount and the 1.4X-L a little more. In case anyone is interested in fitting an "L" TC to his/her favorite lens, and would like to know it it has a chance of working before buying, h

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-08 Thread Herb Chong
ROTECTED]> To: "jtainter" Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 2:14 PM Subject: Re: teleconverters Sorry, I didn't realize that you were talking about the newer "Pro" versions. My understanding is that only the Sigmas are available in Pentax mount and the Sigmas only fit ce

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-08 Thread Herb Chong
t; To: Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 1:19 PM Subject: Re: teleconverters At $550 the A 2.0x L is just too expensive for a TC.

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Joe, Sorry, I didn't realize that you were talking about the newer "Pro" versions. My understanding is that only the Sigmas are available in Pentax mount and the Sigmas only fit certain lenses. If you don't need AF in the converter, KEH has a couple of 2X-L's for about $160. Bruce Tuesday, Fe

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-08 Thread jtainter
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=search&Q=&b=197&b=29&a=65_437&shs=&ci=278&ac=&Submit.x=16&Submit.y=9&Submit=Go - Bruce, these are all the older models, not the new models from Kenko and Tamron that Jens referred us to with this link: http://www.nikonlinks.com/articles_teleconve

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-08 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Well, I'm selling off my Canon gear ... Oh, my goodness! After sadly seeing a few PDMLers go over to the "dark side," it's so refreshing to hear of the reverse happening!! ;-) ERN

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Well, I'm selling off my Canon gear and have both the 70-200/4L and 300/4L IS as well as the 1.4x Extender II. If you're interested in any of those bits, let me know. Godfrey --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sheesh, my parade is rained on. > > But thanks for the info. > > Sigh. One of these days

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-08 Thread John Whittingham
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:51:49 EST Subject: Re: teleconverters > In a message dated 2/7/2005 6:09:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I suggest considering a 1.4x. One of those will give better > > results than > >

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/7/2005 10:31:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry to inform you, but there are specific compatibility issues with the Canon 1.4x Extender II. From Canon's website: "This tele extender can be used with fixed focal length lenses 135mm and longer (except

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> Cool. Good to know. I've eyed the 1.4. I don't have any L > glass, but I do have the 28-135 IS. Sorry to inform you, but there are specific compatibility issues with the Canon 1.4x Extender II. From Canon's website: "This tele extender can be used with fixed focal length lenses 135mm and longe

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/7/2005 9:30:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also have a Canon 10D system. I have a Canon 1.4x Extender II, a 70-200/4L and a 300/4L IS. Fitting the 1.4x Extender II to either of those lenses results in so little degradation of quality, it would be virt

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I'm not familiar with Pentax zooms and teleconverters. But ... I also have a Canon 10D system. I have a Canon 1.4x Extender II, a 70-200/4L and a 300/4L IS. Fitting the 1.4x Extender II to either of those lenses results in so little degradation of quality, it would be virtually impossible to tell

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/7/2005 9:05:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you have an especially good zoom, and an exceptional converter your combination may do the same. (Even though you're on the dark side). === Hehehehe. I have been wondering if a Canon 1.4X or 2X tele

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-07 Thread Bruce Dayton
Marnie, The general rule of thumb is that teleconverters work best when the lens is quite high optical quality and relatively fast (4.0 or faster). That usually leaves out most of the zooms. The one exception is the pro grade 80-200's. They can be used on any lens, but you have to watch out for

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
That depends, some converters and zooms may be good enough together. I've gotten good results with the SMC-Pentax F 70-210 f4.0~5.6 with the 1.7 F converter. The combination exceeded the resolution of the film I was using when stopped down a bit. I assume that they would also exceed the resol

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/7/2005 6:09:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I suggest considering a 1.4x. One of those will give better > results than > a 2x. Thanks for all the great input, everyone! I want to do some more research, but I'm starting to lean towards a 7-element Ke

RE: teleconverters

2005-02-07 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 18:42:03 -0700, Joseph Tainter wrote: > Does anyone know where to get the new Kenko/Tamron teleconverters in the > U.S.? Adorama has the 1.4x in Pentax mount/Tamron brand. None of the > others seems to be available. Are they available in Europe or Asia? I have a used but ver

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-07 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Amita, I have the Tamron 28-75/2.8 DI lens and both kenko converters. What kind of test would you like done? Bruce Monday, February 7, 2005, 6:07:37 PM, you wrote: >> I suggest considering a 1.4x. One of those will give better >> results than >> a 2x. AG> Thanks for all the great inp

RE: teleconverters

2005-02-07 Thread Amita Guha
> I suggest considering a 1.4x. One of those will give better > results than > a 2x. Thanks for all the great input, everyone! I want to do some more research, but I'm starting to lean towards a 7-element Kenko. I think when I get my D back from the shop, I might buy the 1.4x and the 2x and test

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-07 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Joe, Here you go: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=search&Q=&b=197&b=29&a=65_437&shs=&ci=278&ac=&Submit.x=16&Submit.y=9&Submit=Go -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, February 7, 2005, 5:42:03 PM, you wrote: JT> Jens wrote: JT> Kenko's (Tamron) are supposed to be very good,

RE: teleconverters

2005-02-07 Thread Joseph Tainter
Jens wrote: Kenko's (Tamron) are supposed to be very good, according to tests done by FotoMagazin in Germany. They gave the old (MF) MC7 the highest (SUPER) grade. Take a look at: http://www.nikonlinks.com/articles_teleconverter_review.htm -- Jens, when was the fotoMagazin test done? Di

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-06 Thread Keith Whaley
On the other hand, I got most excellent performance from a Komura Telemore 7-element 2X converter, years ago. Quite literally couldn't tell between those taken with it, and a blown up bare lens print... keith whaley Joseph Tainter wrote: I believe that Kenko may also make the Tokina and Tamron t

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-06 Thread Joseph Tainter
I believe that Kenko may also make the Tokina and Tamron teleconverters. Kenko and Tokina are (at least in the U.S.) the same company. Look for a 7-element converter. Still, a 2x may not be very good, especially on a zoom. I have an older Tamron 2x 7-element, and have never gotten a decent imag

Re: teleconverters (resent twice)

2005-02-06 Thread John Whittingham
I've just got myself a Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 Di (from a list member) after reading some really great reviews, had to decide between Sigma EX, Tokina ATX and the Tarmron. Apparently the lens works really well with the Tamron 1.4x if you can live with the focal length restriction: the article:

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2005 4:17:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess a better zoom lens would give sharper results, than my 60 USD Tamron consumer zoom. Jens Bladt Probably. I found this interesting too. Thanks, Jens. Marnie aka Doe

RE: teleconverters

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 6. februar 2005 11:20 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: teleconverters Test results: "Results with a converter are highly dependent on the prime lens. This just makes sense. The converter is simply magni

RE: teleconverters

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
PROTECTED] Sendt: 6. februar 2005 11:20 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: teleconverters Test results: "Results with a converter are highly dependent on the prime lens. This just makes sense. The converter is simply magnifying the central portion of the original image. If the original imag

Re: teleconverters (resent)

2005-02-06 Thread John Whittingham
I've just got myself a Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 Di (from a list member) after reading some really great reviews, had to decide between Sigma EX, Tokina ATX and the Tarmron. Apparently the lens works really well with the Tamron 1.4x if you can live with the focal length restriction: the article:

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-06 Thread John Whittingham
I've just got myself a Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 Di (from a list member) after reading some really great reviews, had to decide between Sigma EX, Tokina ATX and the Tarmron. Apparently the lens works really well with the Tamron 1.4x if you can live with the focal length restriction: the article: ht

RE: teleconverters

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
/products/Tamron_Tamron_2x_TeleConverter_7_Ele ment_f_Pentax_AF_USA_af20p700.html Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 6. februar 2005 06:27 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE

RE: teleconverters

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
] Sendt: 6. februar 2005 06:27 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: teleconverters > Try to find an A2X-S Pentax converter. They're fairly common > on ebay. It's very good. Paul I was actually looking for an autofocus teleconverter... Amita

RE: teleconverters

2005-02-06 Thread Jens Bladt
That's a very good idea, Amita. Then you don't have to carry too much gear. I'm not sure how great it is to use a convertter with a zoom, though. Primes are better, but your lens is supposed to be excellent. Kenko's (Tamron) are supposed to be very good, according to tests done by FotoMagazin in Ge

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