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From: "frank theriault"
Subject: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
So, what killed chromes? The advent of C41? I can't believe that
alone did it. Because while it certainly made colour prints
economical for the snapshot consumer, the price differ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 9/13/2005 7:12:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I can put together an I-photo slide show in a matter of seconds and watch it
play automatically. The projector is probably doomed to sit in the closet.
Paul
Aha, googl
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> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:56 PM
> Subject: Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
>
>
> >That's correct. But it doesn't add one bit of signal; the noise
> >level increases as well. That's where the sqrt factor comes from.
i take that back. i was looking in the wrong reference.
Herb
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From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
doubling the number of samples i
;John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
That's correct. But it doesn't add one bit of signal; the noise
level increases as well. That's where the sqrt factor comes from.
; adds about 1 bit of resolution.
>
> Herb
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> From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 11:16 PM
> Subject: Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
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> >On Tue
my Nikon scanner does oversampling in the driver. every doubling of passes
adds about 1 bit of resolution.
Herb
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From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome?
>
> From: Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> When one door closes, another is opened. ;)
Avoiding the splinters sticking out of the door frame is the trick.
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On Sep 14, 2005, at 2:03 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
Any modern processor can scan/print 35mm chromes as easily as
reprinting negs, and if they can print 120 neg, they'll be able to
scan/print 120 chromes as well.
I spoke to the guy who runs an Agfa D-Lab and they found that the
software in the
On Sep 14, 2005, at 12:42 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
I'd have to say the death of the slideshow killed chromes for most
folks. People like prints.
Now people plug their digicams into the TV. We've gone full circle.
- Dave
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 10:59:10PM -0400, Herb Chong wrote:
> doubling the number of frames ought to reduce the noise by a factor of 2
Sqrt(2), shirley?
2005 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
Has anyone ever tried taking several shots of a stationary subject, with
your camera on a tripod, and then averaging the frames together in
software? I wonder if that could possibly make ISO 200 look even more
noise-free than it currently is?
At 10:32 PM 9/13/2005, you wrote:
based on my eyeballs, my *istD has less noise than Kodachrome 25.
Herb
Has anyone ever tried taking several shots of a stationary subject, with
your camera on a tripod, and then averaging the frames together in
software? I wonder if that could possibly
based on my eyeballs, my *istD has less noise than Kodachrome 25.
Herb
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From: "Glen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
My favorite films are alr
At 09:31 PM 9/13/2005, Herb Chong wrote:
E-6 chemistry will be around for a while, in small, variable quality, and
expensive rolls, since there are multiple suppliers. Kodachrome's days are
numbered.
My favorite films are already gone anyway. Kodak made an ultra-fine grain
negative film with
negatives scan much better than slides. Velvia is very hard, even among
slides, while Kodachrome and Nikons don't get along.
Herb
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From: "Adam Maas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: What Ev
2005 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
Damn, I didn't know anything happened to chrome. If it disappeared then
what
are all those rolls in my refrigerator? What's in all those yellow boxes
on
my desk? What are those rolls in my cameras?
you guys have been punishingly transparent, even when you put a positive
spin on things.
when i was learning, i shot B&W. this was easy and convenient as my father
had a permanently set up B&W darkroom downstairs. when we moved from that
house, i changed over to about 50% slides, 30% color pri
It was the social stigma of inviting people round for a slide show!
Cruelled by all those Uncle Joe's who sat people down for three hours of
Auntie Mabel half-obscuring some famous monument, which was usually out of
focus and appeared to be growing out of her head. And, let's not forget the
mi
You can also use it to build self contained slide shows and screen
savers, royalty free.
John Forbes wrote:
For newbies to Irfanview, it's worth knowing that the program is very
configurable (in Properties, in the Options menu, and in Display
Options, in the View menu).
For instance, slid
For newbies to Irfanview, it's worth knowing that the program is very
configurable (in Properties, in the Options menu, and in Display Options,
in the View menu).
For instance, slideshows can be configured to start with the last
slideshow you watched, or with a clean slate based on the curr
On 13/9/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
>Are you positive?
This is a complete reversal of his position.
Cheers,
Cotty
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Irfanview, it's free.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 9/13/2005 7:12:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I can put together an I-photo slide show in a matter of seconds and watch it
play automatically. The projector is probably doomed to sit in the closet.
Paul
On 9/13/05, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Keep your focus Frank, I shutter to think about the results if you don't.
> After all, I think you can compensate for it.
>
Focus? What's that?
-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
o think about the results if you don't.
After all, I think you can compensate for it.
Kenneth Waller
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From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
&g
> What do people use for the PC to
create a digital
slide show? (From digital
> camera, or scanned stuff.)
>
> Marnie aka Doe
>
I use a free Hamrik program called Vuescan. It s about 500k and only does slide
show. No
rotate,
adjustments. etc.
For the
On 9/13/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My mind's a blur...
Wait, those are my photos.
-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
On 9/13/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You're losing it Frank. That's what happens when you're overexposed to
> this kind of thing.
My mind's a blur...
-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> > Why can't you be more positive?
>
> Don't be so sensitive. There's a grain (of) truth to what he says.
I don't like the way this thread is developing. I need to limit my exposure.
Tom
frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 9/13/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Don't be so sensitive. There's a grain truth to what he says.
>
>That should have been "a grain ~of~ truth"...
You're losing it Frank. That's what happens when you're overexposed to
this kind
In a message dated 9/13/2005 7:12:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I can put together an I-photo slide show in a matter of seconds and watch it
play automatically. The projector is probably doomed to sit in the closet.
Paul
Aha, googled. I-photo is Mac. What do
On 9/13/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't be so sensitive. There's a grain truth to what he says.
That should have been "a grain ~of~ truth"...
-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
On 9/13/05, Tom Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why can't you be more positive?
Don't be so sensitive. There's a grain truth to what he says.
-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> >> You're an anachromism
> >
> >I'm going to let that slide for now. The transparency of your motive
speaks
> >for itself.
>
> You don't fool me. I expect to see you make a complete reversal of your
> position very soon.
Why can't you be more positive?
Tom Reese
Funnily enough the first Pentax I bought -- an H3, was bought because it was
more versatile for slides than the Rolleiflex T that was my other choice.
As a mostly snapshot, family diary sort of shooter, the thing that killed
slides for me was children, and grandparents wanting copies/prints/and
On 9/13/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You don't fool me. I expect to see you make a complete reversal of your
> position very soon.
>
> Mark (The Chrome-Magnon Man)
Are you positive?
-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
"Tom Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From: "frank theriault"
>
>> You're an anachromism
>
>I'm going to let that slide for now. The transparency of your motive speaks
>for itself.
You don't fool me. I expect to see you make a complete reversal of your
position very soon.
Mark (The Chrome-Magn
My father shot transparencies almost exclusively, and I took up where he left
off. I still have a lot of slides I shot when I was only ten years old or so.
Most of them are 127 Ektachrome. My dad shot 6x6 ektachrome with an Agfa. We
had a projector that cold handle both and reviewed them freque
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well i still see a few at the local pro lab using slide film.
My dad in his day shot quite a lot of chrome and we looked forward to the
monthly
slideshow.
I love the results from chrome,but getting a print is a problem.
Local pro lab does interneg and i can see the l
From: "frank theriault"
> You're an anachromism
I'm going to let that slide for now. The transparency of your motive speaks
for itself.
Tom (the ektamorph) Reese
Frank said:
> You raise an interesting point, Herb. When I was a kid (like early
> 60's) my dad (who shot with a Yashica A tlr - the poor man's Mat,
> which was the poor man's Rolleiflex ) shot probably 80% chrome.
> He'd set up the projector, tape a sheet
On 9/13/05, Tom Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Damn, I didn't know anything happened to chrome. If it disappeared then what
> are all those rolls in my refrigerator? What's in all those yellow boxes on
> my desk? What are those rolls in my cameras?
>
> Now I'm confused.
>
> Tom (Give me ektac
Damn, I didn't know anything happened to chrome. If it disappeared then what
are all those rolls in my refrigerator? What's in all those yellow boxes on
my desk? What are those rolls in my cameras?
Now I'm confused.
Tom (Give me ektachrome or give me death) Reese
frank theriault wrote:
On 9/12/05, Herb Chong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OTOH, Kodachrome is certain to be one of the fastest ones to be
discontinued. niche product in an already niche market. slide film accounted
for about 2% of Fuji's film sales in 2003.
You raise an interesting poi
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