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2004-02-27 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
It was interesting to hear from those who worked with the F-4s when they began using them as drones. Many felt bad that they were no longer in the inventory. When I first got here they were using F-106s as drones. I do not recall when the last one was used up... Cesar Panama City, Florida

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2004-02-27 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
I always enjoy hearing them say that the F-4 shows that with enough thrust, even a brick can fly :-) An excellent workhorse nonetheless. Cesar Panama City, Florida P.S. The F-15, a flying tennis court. I was quite surprised the first time I was able to stand between the tails of one. Talk

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2004-02-26 Thread Cotty
Mine was Mach 2.2 in a Phantom II fighter. Shoot! Any astronauts on the list? Oh yeah, I've done quite a bit of space exploration, but that was back in college. Perhaps we're not talking about the same thing, though... You're a wise-acre, Roberts ;-) Can you teach me? I would never presume to

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2004-02-26 Thread Butch Black
Hi Cesar I worked on them 30+ years ago. This post is the first that I had heard about them being used as drones. I suppose all things must come to an end. However, given the fact that until fairly recently they were in active duty as Wild Weasels (anti radar/ missile site planes) is a testament

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2004-02-25 Thread Keith Whaley
You got 120 mph in second gear out of a '57 Ford engine? And a '57 Ford tranny?! I hope you didn't try that without an armor plate tranny cover! Or, are you still on crutches? keith whaley Paul Sorenson wrote: Back in the days of the Big Iron from Detroit a friend had a '57 Ford that someone

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2004-02-25 Thread Cotty
On 24/2/04, DAN 'ZIPPY' MAYTOLA disgorged: Mine was Mach 2.2 in a Phantom II fighter. Shoot! Any astronauts on the list? As George Kennedy said to a hapless Global Aiways pilot trying to taxi a stuck 707 from the snow when he protested that he had clocked up half a million miles in the air:

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2004-02-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/2/04, DAN 'ZIPPY' MAYTOLA disgorged: Mine was Mach 2.2 in a Phantom II fighter. Shoot! Any astronauts on the list? Oh yeah, I've done quite a bit of space exploration, but that was back in college. Perhaps we're not talking about the same thing, though...

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2004-02-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Mine was Mach 2.2 in a Phantom II fighter. Shoot! Any astronauts on the list? As George Kennedy said to a hapless Global Aiways pilot trying to taxi a stuck 707 from the snow when he protested that he had clocked up half a million miles in the air:

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2004-02-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Mine was Mach 2.2 in a Phantom II fighter. Shoot! Any astronauts on the list? Oh yeah, I've done quite a bit of space exploration, but that was back in college. Perhaps we're not talking about the same thing, though... You're a wise-acre, Roberts ;-)

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2004-02-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Mine was Mach 2.2 in a Phantom II fighter. Shoot! Any astronauts on the list? Oh yeah, I've done quite a bit of space exploration, but that was back in college. Perhaps we're not talking about the same thing, though...

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2004-02-25 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Ahhh yes, my first trip to GFMtn. Talk about an interesting experience. 'We don't do that around here', paraphrasing the cop, Cesar Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 7:51 AM Cesar Matamoros II

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2004-02-25 Thread Bill Owens
Well, most people don't drive around at night in 30 degree temperatures with the top down on their convertibles 8-) Bill Ahhh yes, my first trip to GFMtn. Talk about an interesting experience. 'We don't do that around here', paraphrasing the cop, Cesar Panama City, Florida

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2004-02-25 Thread Butch Black
On 24/2/04, DAN 'ZIPPY' MAYTOLA disgorged: Mine was Mach 2.2 in a Phantom II fighter. So you flew Phantoms. I was a jet engine mechanic in the USAF and used to work on J79-15 engines for the RF4-C recon version Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

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2004-02-25 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 15:38:58 -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shoot! Any astronauts on the list? Oh yeah, I've done quite a bit of space exploration, but that was back in college. I'm guessing that was _inner_ space, if your college years were anything like mine.

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2004-02-25 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Bill, Bill, Bill, It was not 30 degrees out. It was not night time, it was pre-dawn. I could not be driving out and about that cold with the top down. It was only probably in the 50s. One of the good things about an 8-cylinder is the amount of heat it produces. Crank up the heat and all is

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2004-02-24 Thread Cotty
As driver: cut down Range Rover racer - est. 130mph (the speedo finished at 120) As passenger: 170mph in a Jaguar, being taken around Silverstone to get shots of Derek Warwick - can't remember the type as it was over ten years ago. I remember him apologising for being slow, as it was wet... Cotty

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2004-02-24 Thread John Forbes
, Australia - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 3:03 PM Subject: Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars: keith said I'd give my left goanie for a Mini! Maybe both for a Cooper-Pooper! Sighhh. To each his own, I

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2004-02-24 Thread Keith Whaley
Cotty wrote: As driver: cut down Range Rover racer - est. 130mph (the speedo finished at 120) As passenger: 170mph in a Jaguar, being taken around Silverstone to get shots of Derek Warwick - can't remember the type as it was over ten years ago. I remember him apologising for being slow,

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2004-02-24 Thread Norm Baugher
160+mph in a Mitsubishi 3000 twin-turbo, Utah desert, public highway. Norm Mark Roberts wrote: My personal public road speed record is about 140 mph in Interstate 390 in upstate NY.

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2004-02-24 Thread graywolf
This thing goes back long before that, to the early detroit super cars (late fifties) at least. Only it was a $20 back then (anyone else old enough to remember when $20 was enough to take your gal out for a hot date?). A guy layed that one on my in bragging about his 58 Olds (J-5?) back around

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2004-02-24 Thread Frits Wüthrich
My speed record was 1100km/hour in a Boeing 747-400. On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 17:27, Norm Baugher wrote: 160+mph in a Mitsubishi 3000 twin-turbo, Utah desert, public highway. Norm Mark Roberts wrote: My personal public road speed record is about 140 mph in Interstate 390 in upstate NY.

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2004-02-24 Thread Bob Blakely
My experience with small, English sports cars has taught me that the English are born tinkerers. Both my Austin Healey 3000 and (earlier) my MG Midget required constant tinkering with the carbs, throttle assembly, timing etc. This was also true of my friend's Jag XKE. That the English are born

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2004-02-24 Thread Pat White
The thing about modern cars is that most of them are speed-limited. I've driven Chevy Luminas, and, last week, a Ford Taurus, all of which cut out at 172kph (107mph), while the high-revving (6250rpm) Chrysler Sebring will run up to 188kph (117mph), the same speed as my Dodge Grand Caravan. It

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2004-02-24 Thread Alan Kerr
try a 100mph in an old Kombi and you'll know what scared is. It had a hot 2.2 litre VW engine but still handled like crap Alan Steve Jolly wrote: I managed 90 in my 1975 Vauxhall Viva HC once, downhill on the motorway. I still reckon it would have hit 100, but I got scared. S Doug Franklin

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2004-02-24 Thread Dan Matyola
Mine was Mach 2.2 in a Phantom II fighter. Frits Wüthrich wrote: My speed record was 1100km/hour in a Boeing 747-400.

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2004-02-24 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
I usually took my older Mustangs to 100 mph to clean out the carbon on occasion. They were from 1965-1967. The '67 was a 6 cylinder. My '96 Mustang Cobra convertible I have gotten to 100mph while passing in 3rd gear with the top down. Try not to do that too often, the police look out for cars

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2004-02-24 Thread Anthony Farr
But I reckon Steve Jolly's 90 in (his) 1975 Vauxhall Viva HC took the biggest 'nads award. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Bill D. Casselberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dan Matyola wrote: Mine was Mach 2.2 in a Phantom II fighter. :^) ... sounds like Dan takes the

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2004-02-24 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Anthony Farr wrote: But I reckon Steve Jolly's 90 in (his) 1975 Vauxhall Viva HC took the biggest 'nads award. I've never been much of a fast car sort, but back in the early 90's I had a $250 1974 Chevrolet Caprice Classic w/ the 400 cu in engine. It did have some get

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2004-02-23 Thread Stephen Moore
Keith Whaley wrote: Cesar Matamoros II wrote: I had a friend who introduced me to the P1800. Never got a ride or a chance to drive one Cesar Panama City, Florida The Volvo? Stiff handling and stiff riding, and quite unconfortable all around. Looked neat, but. . . Here's one of several

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2004-02-23 Thread Peter Alling
- From: Cotty Subject: Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars On 22/2/04, KENNETH WALLER THE GOD disgorged: I was able to get the 350 up to an indicated 130+ mph. My Mazda RX-2 would go that fast, but sometimes it would also become airborne all on it's own. Real fun is going that fast

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2004-02-23 Thread Keith Whaley
If I'd have been in that Lotus, I'd sure have been nervous about that ol' Volvo nerfing at my rear bodywork! g keith Stephen Moore wrote: Keith Whaley wrote: Cesar Matamoros II wrote: I had a friend who introduced me to the P1800. Never got a ride or a chance to drive one

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2004-02-23 Thread Kenneth Waller
- Original Message - From: Alan Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars not like my crappy 3litre Duratec Taurus, talk about slow. Did you watch NASCAR today? Alan Kenneth Waller wrote: It also got real busy in the Shelby @ that speed, trying to keep it between

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2004-02-23 Thread Kenneth Waller
Cotty blurted out -- Did you try the 100 dollar bill on the windscreen trick? I have some ideas about this but what did you have in mind? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars On 22/2/04, KENNETH WALLER THE GOD

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2004-02-23 Thread John Francis
My personally driven top speed is a more modest 105mph in my first car I've done 120mph or more in three cars: o A Bentley R-type (on the A127 coming back from Southend). I started out running at around 80mph, and the speed gradually crept up. Absolutely no sensation of speed.

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2004-02-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
My personal best on a public way was in my 1979 Jaguar XJ12. It was on route 18 in New Jersey. I entered on route 79 and headed east toward route 34. I didn't see any speed traps, so I turned around and held it to the floor going the other way. 138 mph on the speedo. On a dragstrip I went 187

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2004-02-23 Thread Kenneth Waller
of that machine but I was impressed by the feeling of electric power - no rush, just a steady push. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars My personally driven top speed is a more modest 105mph in my first car

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2004-02-23 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 21:02:57 -0500, Kenneth Waller wrote: I see this has now morphed into the fastest I've ever gone in a car. 155 or 160 on a closed-down runway in a Mercedes 250 SEL (I think). TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

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2004-02-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see this has now morphed into the fastest I've ever gone in a car. My personal best was in a 1966 (?) Jaguar XKE coupe, returning from Mosport to Detroit on the 401. It was early morning, no one on the road that car cruised at an indicated 140 to 150

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2004-02-23 Thread Steve Jolly
I managed 90 in my 1975 Vauxhall Viva HC once, downhill on the motorway. I still reckon it would have hit 100, but I got scared. S Doug Franklin wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 21:02:57 -0500, Kenneth Waller wrote: I see this has now morphed into the fastest I've ever gone in a car. 155 or 160

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2004-02-22 Thread Cotty
On 21 Feb 2004 at 17:02, Cotty wrote: factoid The man that designed the Porsche Boxster also designed the shape of the 1999/2000 G3 PowerBook. /factoid Har, no wonder I nearly gaged the first time I laid eyes on it, well not quite, but you must admit it's difficult to tell the front

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2004-02-22 Thread Cotty
Cotty wrote: I'll bet your favourite film would be the Italian Job? The remake? Oh no, the original is MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better. Have both on DVD though... -Mat Even though I haven't seen the remake, I gathered that to be the case. I figured you'd like seeing the new Minis in action

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2004-02-22 Thread Kenneth Waller
in second gear than the Bugeye could do in forth. On my way to my new job, on the Ohio Turnpike I was able to get the 350 up to an indicated 130+ mph. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: WAY OT - English Sport Cars: List traffic handling

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2004-02-22 Thread Kenneth Waller
Message - From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars: - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually there is only one British sports car I would have: an AC Cobra, with a little breath of Mr Shelby on it :-) Not to be a nit

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2004-02-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/2/04, KENNETH WALLER THE GOD disgorged: About a hundred years ago (it only seems like that ) I had a 59 Bugeye w/hardtop in BRG for my last two years in a commuting college - what a treat. I got a fulltime job and stepped into the real world and bought a brand new 1966 Shelby GT 350 - talk

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2004-02-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars On 22/2/04, KENNETH WALLER THE GOD disgorged: I was able to get the 350 up to an indicated 130+ mph. My Mazda RX-2 would go that fast, but sometimes it would also become airborne all on it's own. Real fun

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2004-02-22 Thread John Mustarde
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:03:54 -0600, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars On 22/2/04, KENNETH WALLER THE GOD disgorged: I was able to get the 350 up to an indicated 130+ mph. My Mazda RX-2 would go that fast, but sometimes it would

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2004-02-22 Thread Raimo K
Subject: Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars William Robb wrote: My Mazda RX-2 would go that fast, but sometimes it would also become airborne all on it's own. Real fun is going that fast on a souped up Kawasaki 900. The current generation of Kawasaki 600cc bikes will easily go that fast

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2004-02-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mat Maessen Subject: Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars The current generation of Kawasaki 600cc bikes will easily go that fast (as will 600's from Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha, etc.). No souping up necessary. Rather scary to have 100 horsepower at the rear wheel

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2004-02-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William Robb wrote: My Mazda RX-2 would go that fast, but sometimes it would also become airborne all on it's own. Real fun is going that fast on a souped up Kawasaki 900. The current generation of Kawasaki 600cc bikes will easily go that fast (as will

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2004-02-22 Thread Doug Brewer
On Sunday, February 22, 2004, at 09:03 AM, William Robb wrote: Real fun is going that fast on a souped up Kawasaki 900. William Robb Sure, but not nearly as much fun as trying to stop one at that speed.

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2004-02-22 Thread Alan Kerr
before the shitty Taurus I now own I had a 308 VN Commodore and took it to 200kph (which is probably similar to 130mph) before I chickened out. Wasn't another car on the road though. Not in the same class as the Shelby of course. I've been in a VW Golf GTI thats speedo was in MPH up to 135mph,

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2004-02-22 Thread Alan Kerr
Start talking motorcyles and there is only one dream machine and it isn't that old but certainly a classic- The Britten V-Twin http://www.britten.co.nz/ Alan William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars On 22/2/04, KENNETH WALLER

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2004-02-22 Thread Alan Kerr
They went nice in a straight line, a bit like the Kawasaki 500 mach III. The best Kwaka I ever rode was a Z1R II 1100, now they could handle Alan Mark Roberts wrote: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Cotty On 22/2/04, KENNETH WALLER THE GOD disgorged: I was able to

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2004-02-22 Thread Alan Kerr
but they did it with ease, never felt nervous had seats for four other occupants! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: William Robb Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 9:03 AM Subject: Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: WAY OT - English Sport

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2004-02-22 Thread Stan Halpin
Hey, it looked fast! It was fun to drive! Particularly in the mountains in North Carolina and Virginia and on north into New England. A vast playground... Stan Cotty wrote: (sorry, my email app doesn't like long subject lines} On 21/2/04, STAN THE PORCH MAN disgorged: TR-250 was the body

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2004-02-21 Thread frank theriault
this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars: Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:03:16 -0500 (EST) As did I. I drove

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2004-02-21 Thread frank theriault
IIRC, the automobile that holds the record for most miles ever is a P1800. Owned by a guy in Vermont or New Hamshire or some such place, I think. I think that (until recently, at least) all he ever did for it was regular oil changes. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all

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2004-02-21 Thread frank theriault
It worked for the DeTomaso Pantera. What did they stick in there, a Ford Cleveland or something? There's no replacement for displacement. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cotty [EMAIL

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2004-02-21 Thread Mat Maessen
Yes, Oxford. SFAIK they aren't built anywhere else. Makes the British half of me happy. :-) -Mat Cotty wrote: Matt, is that the Mini production line in England, or do they build them elsewhere? AFAIK, it's Oxford. Been in there a few times. The company is owned by BMW but built by good

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2004-02-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/2/04, DAVE MANN disgorged: Whoa! Ferraris? Zz ! That reminds me... the Ferrari-badged notebook computer is in stock down here. I must go and see if its really as ugly as it looks in the pictures. I guess Apple will have to do a black Lamborghini Powerbook G5. Steve

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2004-02-21 Thread Mat Maessen
As opposed to the GT-6, which was a Spitfire with a hardtop and the TR6 engine. I have a friend who has a Triumph fetish. 3 GT-6's in various states of rust/disassembly, and a beautiful TR-6 in his garage. Oh yeah, and a Formula Vee as well... -Mat TR-250 was the body of a TR-4 with the

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2004-02-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/2/04, MINI MAT disgorged: Yes, Oxford. SFAIK they aren't built anywhere else. Makes the British half of me happy. :-) -Mat I'll bet your favourite film would be the Italian Job? The remake? Cheers, Cotty Self Preservation Society member ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places,

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2004-02-21 Thread Kenneth Waller
at full chat?) I reviewed three Ford GTs at the factory yesterday and only wish I had the money @ connections to get one. I guess I'll settle for a Boxster. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: WAY OT - English Sport Cars: Cotty, I

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2004-02-21 Thread Cotty
(sorry, my email app doesn't like long subject lines} On 21/2/04, STAN THE PORCH MAN disgorged: TR-250 was the body of a TR-4 with the engine of the soon-to-appear TR-6. Nice car. Fun car. Nice growl from the exhaust. It convinced me to move from my American Motors Rambler to a Porsche Ahh,

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2004-02-21 Thread Keith Whaley
Kenneth Waller wrote: Cesar, I believe you may be referring to the New Ford GT. The GT 40 is a mid 60's creation for Ford in their attempt to beat Ferrari after Henry the Deuce's offer to buy Ferrari was turned down by Enzio. The Ford GT will be for sale later this year. Sticker will be

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2004-02-21 Thread John Forbes
The GT6 had a 2 litre engine, whilst the TR6 had a 2.5. I don't remember if the latter was simply a larger capacity version of the former. It might well have been. John On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:20:17 -0500, Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As opposed to the GT-6, which was a Spitfire

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2004-02-21 Thread Doug Brewer
I had a GT-6+ back in the day. Custom silver metal-flake paint job, leather interior/wood dash. It was a great, if temperamental, car for a little over a year until it became a victim of applied physics. Loved how I could tip open the hood/bonnet, sit on the tire, and have access to most of

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2004-02-21 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, the most entertaining races by far were the sedan races. There were on average about 1/2 dozen Mini Coopers in each race. We'd plant ourselves at Moss Corner, the sharpest corner on the track, and the fun would begin. Because they were so front

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2004-02-21 Thread Kenneth Waller
competitive in the SCCA in the states as of a few years ago, although some were into 15'wheels and rearwheel drive! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars: Back when I used to go to Mosport for F1 and CanAm races

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2004-02-21 Thread John Francis
As opposed to the GT-6, which was a Spitfire with a hardtop and the TR6 engine. Oh, it's a little more than that! I've ridden in both - one of my closest friends during college and post- college days had a GT-6. (While it's not *easy* to get three people into a GT-6, it *is* possible, if

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2004-02-21 Thread Alan Kerr
Cotty wrote: On 21/2/04, DAVE MANN disgorged: Whoa! Ferraris? Zz ! That reminds me... the Ferrari-badged notebook computer is in stock down here. I must go and see if its really as ugly as it looks in the pictures. I guess Apple will have to do a black Lamborghini

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2004-02-21 Thread Alan Kerr
Mat Maessen wrote: As opposed to the GT-6, which was a Spitfire with a hardtop and the TR6 engine. I have a friend who has a Triumph fetish. 3 GT-6's in various states of rust/disassembly, and a beautiful TR-6 in his garage. Oh yeah, and a Formula Vee as well... -Mat TR-250 was the body of a

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2004-02-21 Thread Bill Owens
My very first car was a real piece of crap. 1961 Renault Caravelle. Bill - Original Message - From: Alan Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 3:17 PM Subject: Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars: List traffic handling - was OT: Netiquette Mat

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2004-02-21 Thread Keith Whaley
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 1:27 PM Subject: Re: WAY,WAY OT - English Sport Cars: Kenneth Waller wrote: Cesar, I believe you may be referring to the New Ford GT. snip The GT pretty much out performed them all. Only fell short in engine sound (ever hear

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2004-02-21 Thread Cotty
As opposed to the GT-6, which was a Spitfire with a hardtop and the TR6 engine. I have a friend who has a Triumph fetish. 3 GT-6's in various states of rust/disassembly, and a beautiful TR-6 in his garage. Oh yeah, and a Formula Vee as well... -Mat TR-250 was the body of a TR-4 with

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2004-02-21 Thread Mat Maessen
Irv Gordon. 1965 1800S. Over 2 million documented miles. He lives on Long Island. One heck of a nice guy, even if he does shoot Canon. -Mat frank theriault wrote: IIRC, the automobile that holds the record for most miles ever is a P1800. Owned by a guy in Vermont or New Hamshire or some such

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2004-02-21 Thread Mat Maessen
Cotty wrote: I'll bet your favourite film would be the Italian Job? The remake? Oh no, the original is MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better. Have both on DVD though... -Mat

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2004-02-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Feb 2004 at 17:02, Cotty wrote: factoid The man that designed the Porsche Boxster also designed the shape of the 1999/2000 G3 PowerBook. /factoid Har, no wonder I nearly gaged the first time I laid eyes on it, well not quite, but you must admit it's difficult to tell the front

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2004-02-21 Thread wendy beard
At 05:33 PM 21/02/2004, you wrote: The closest I ever got was a Triumph PI, wish I'd bought a Stag when they were at giveaway prices Alan Paul's pride and joy http://members.rogers.com/stagman/stag/ Bought in the very early 80s. Still has original engine. Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada

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2004-02-21 Thread David Mann
On Feb 22, 2004, at 08:28, Mark Roberts wrote: To bring this back close to topic for this list: All this talk about car (and now motorcycle) racing makes me realize, even in this day of $1500.00 DSLR's, how relatively inexpensive photography is. I knew plenty of people who turned $10,000.00

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2004-02-20 Thread Christian
Message - From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 11:21 AM Subject: Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars: List traffic handling - was OT: Netiquette Oh goody, a my favorite sports car thread.

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2004-02-20 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone on this list had a TR3 or a TR3a - was it Whaley? They're among my favourite classic English sports cars, the Austin Healey Bug Eye (I think you Brits call them Frog Eye?) Sprite being my absolute fave. They're just so irresistably cute!! I

RE: WAY OT - English Sport Cars: List traffic handling - was OT: Netiquette

2004-02-20 Thread Peter Alling
And at least semi reliable. At 08:11 AM 2/20/04, you wrote: Someone on this list had a TR3 or a TR3a - was it Whaley? They're among my favourite classic English sports cars, the Austin Healey Bug Eye (I think you Brits call them Frog Eye?) Sprite being my absolute fave. They're just so

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2004-02-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/2/04, FRANK disgorged: Someone on this list had a TR3 or a TR3a - was it Whaley? They're among my favourite classic English sports cars, the Austin Healey Bug Eye (I think you Brits call them Frog Eye?) Sprite being my absolute fave. They're just so irresistably cute!! EURGH. Orrible

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2004-02-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/2/04, CHRISTIAN THE FERRARI-LOVER disgorged: Are we keeping this British? 1. Anything with DB in its name 2. Anything designed by Collin Chapman 3. Anything with a 6-cyl in-line Jaguar engine built before 1970. If not: 1. Anything with a Prancing Horse on the grill 2. yeah right, like

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2004-02-20 Thread graywolf
Oh, you want them to be drivable. How modern. -- Cotty wrote: Actually there is only one British sports car I would have: an AC Cobra, with a little breath of Mr Shelby on it :-) Although I quite like Ginettas. The G27 ain't bad... http://website.lineone.net/~g27build/g27index.htm -- graywolf

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2004-02-20 Thread Mat Maessen
I've got a Swedish/Italian/English bastard child car (Volvo P1800). And according to the Mini website, my Cooper S is rolling down the line as we speak. :-) :-) :-) (h... so 1 and 1/3rd british cars?) -Mat (the half-Brit) Cotty wrote: EURGH. Orrible things. Now, an Austin Healey, now

Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars: List traffic handling - was OT: Netiquette

2004-02-20 Thread Keith Whaley
UA$? I mean US$. Sorry! keith * * * Keith Whaley wrote: frank theriault wrote: Someone on this list had a TR3 or a TR3a - was it Whaley? It was! I still have my copy of the SCCA finish sheet! Shows me finishing 3rd in E Production (1.6-2.0 litre) class. Somewhere I have a

Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars: List traffic handling - was OT: Netiquette

2004-02-20 Thread frank theriault
-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars: List traffic handling - was OT: Netiquette Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:20:34 -0500 I love Austin Healeys. They are true sports cars with an everyman personality. I see quite a few of them around Detroit

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2004-02-20 Thread John Francis
I'd give my left goanie for a Mini! Maybe both for a Cooper-Pooper! Sighhh. keith whaley This is my wife's commute vehicle: http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/NewMini.jpg Cooper automatic(CVT), sunroof, H/K stereo [And just before anyone comes up with the knee-jerk put-down of an

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2004-02-20 Thread ernreed2
keith said I'd give my left goanie for a Mini! Maybe both for a Cooper-Pooper! Sighhh. To each his own, I guess. I grew up around a real Mini. I just can't attach the name to a car as large as the new Mini. ERN

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2004-02-20 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Eleanor, We will have to talk about this on GFMtn. I have only the current Mini to compare to. Of course I will have to ignore the Bean Mini... Cesar Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:48 PM

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2004-02-20 Thread John Francis
keith said I'd give my left goanie for a Mini! Maybe both for a Cooper-Pooper! Sighhh. To each his own, I guess. I grew up around a real Mini. I just can't attach the name to a car as large as the new Mini. As did I. I drove the original, many times. But the MINI is a heck of a

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2004-02-20 Thread John Francis
- Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually there is only one British sports car I would have: an AC Cobra, with a little breath of Mr Shelby on it :-) Not to be a nit-picking American but the AC model that Mr. Shelby stole was called the Ace. He

Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars: List traffic handling - was OT: Netiquette

2004-02-20 Thread Stan Halpin
I had a loaner TR-250 for a year or so. My then brother-in-law was off to Vietnam for a second tour and left his complete (!) set of Nikon lenses and bodies plus his TR-250 in my care. For those who missed this one, the TR-250 was the body of a TR-4 with the engine of the soon-to-appear

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2004-02-20 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Christian, Yes. The new one. I should not probably mention this, but I am fairly sure I can get a good amount of time around the new one 'after hours' if I wanted to... Taking advantage of connections, Cesar Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: Christian Skofteland

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2004-02-20 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
And he continues to this day... There will be a Shelby Cobra that will be available to people with more means than me. I was able to see the show on cable TV about the car. I will have to check locally to see how I can get my camera close to one somehow. Cesar Panama City, Florida

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2004-02-20 Thread Peter Alling
I guess a Porsche 912 is better than no Porsche at all. At 12:23 AM 2/21/04, you wrote: I had a loaner TR-250 for a year or so. My then brother-in-law was off to Vietnam for a second tour and left his complete (!) set of Nikon lenses and bodies plus his TR-250 in my care. For those who missed

RE: WAY OT - English Sport Cars: and Minis

2004-02-20 Thread ernreed2
keith said I'd give my left goanie for a Mini! Maybe both for a Cooper-Pooper! Sighhh. I said To each his own, I guess. I grew up around a real Mini. I just can't attach the name to a car as large as the new Mini. Cesar said We will have to talk about this on GFMtn. I have only the

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2004-02-20 Thread ernreed2
keith said I'd give my left goanie for a Mini! Maybe both for a Cooper-Pooper! Sighhh. To each his own, I guess. I grew up around a real Mini. I just can't attach the name to a car as large as the new Mini. As did I. I drove the original, many times. But the MINI is a

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