Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "David Mann" Subject: Re: Which Flat Screen If price is the biggest factor, buy a CRT. And a 30 year old Civic to take it home with. Stand it on some bricks, use it with your IBM XT and take photos of it with your K1000. I don't

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread David Mann
On Dec 16, 2005, at 2:28 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Umm, but Godfrey listed a list price for the Dell which hasn't been accurate for 6 months, LIST on the Dell is now $549USD not the $799 Godfrey listed (Street is currently the $463.20 I list also). The Apple Listed for $999USD when the Dell was

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread Jon Paul Schelter
Adam Maas wrote: > The Dell 20" Widescreen is exactly the same panel the Apple 20" uses. Are you sure about that? They do have the same resolution, but they quote different brightness and contrast values.. I ask because I'm tempted. Very tempted. The 10 year old 17" Viewsonic I'm looking a

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/15/2005 6:12:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ydda yadda yadda yadda... Kostas (yadda-yadda, yadidi yadda, yadda...) === You said what I long to say sometimes on this list. yadda-yadda blah-blah and so on and so forth... Marnie ;-)

SV: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread Jens Bladt
Thank you all for the useful answers. I'll pass them on to my friend. All the best Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 15. december 2005 18:19 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Which Flat S

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I see no reason for this bizarre "if it's an Apple product, it must be sneered at because it's an Apple product" behavior. I cannot see why this is strange to you. I have encountered it with cameras, football, software, car brands... Kostas (who

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 15, 2005, at 5:15 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Adam Maas wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: This is what I find on a market search Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW - US $799 - 4 USB 2.0 ports - US street $490-550 - User reviews *** "good" Apple Cinema Display 20" - US $

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
So here's another point of view. We replaced my work CRT (19 inches). It was high quality some 5 years ago, but getting old and a bit flacky in one corner. (Mind you, it was still great for spreadsheets, emails, and powerpoint.) We bought Samsung 910T's, 19 inch flat screens. I can't believe t

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Does your wife know how EVIL you are? Cotty wrote: FWIW, our 7 yr old CRT TV has been playing up and I decided to buy a flat screen TV, and snagged a close-out deal on a Dell 26 inch LCD for 369 GBP inc delivery. This one: The connectivit

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/12/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: >Any smearing? Well there's this bloke who I don't get on with next door - otherwise it's fine ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread Adam Maas
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Adam Maas wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: This is what I find on a market search Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW - US $799 - 4 USB 2.0 ports - US street $490-550 - User reviews *** "good" Apple Cinema Display 20" - US $799 - 2 USB 2.0 port/2 FireWi

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Adam Maas wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: This is what I find on a market search Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW - US $799 - 4 USB 2.0 ports - US street $490-550 - User reviews *** "good" Apple Cinema Display 20" - US $799 - 2 USB 2.0 port/2 FireWire 400 port - US Street $720

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread Adam Maas
Godfrey, You'll want to check pricing on the 2005FPW, as it lists for $749CDN right now (On sale for $599CDN), not $799USD. Just checked Dell's site and that panel is $549USD list and currently on sale for $463.20. The Apple is $799USD or $999CDN. All prices from the respective Webstores. And

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread Bob Shell
On Dec 14, 2005, at 8:20 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: That may be true, Apple buys the panels from an outside vendor of course, but I'll bet the electronics driving the display panel are different. That's not to say the Dell is better or worse. There's more to a monitor than simply the tube

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread David Savage
On 12/15/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 14, 2005, at 8:21 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: > > > No I wasn't talking about circuitry, my guess is that the ROMs are > > likely the > > only thing that's different on the technology side. > > This is what I find on a market search > >

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
Congratulations. I bought a 61 inch Pioneer Plasma HD monitor a few weeks ago. I got a good deal, but it was still very pricey. Gotta hook the computer up to it one of these days, but I'm still busy amazing myself with HD satellite broadcasts and upsampled DVDs. Paul On Dec 15, 2005, at 3:41 AM

RE: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread Malcolm Smith
Cotty wrote: > >and at 267 inches > > oops, boasting again. 26 inches... Damn! I thought you'd bought a drive-in. Malcolm

Re: Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/12/15 Thu AM 08:41:14 GMT > To: "pentax list" > Subject: Re: Which Flat Screen > > FWIW, our 7 yr old CRT TV has been playing up and I decided to buy a > flat screen TV, and snagged a close-out deal

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/12/05, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: >and at 267 inches oops, boasting again. 26 inches... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread Cotty
I don't mind admitting that I'm an iPerson. I have zero time or interest in understanding the circuitry or specs of monitors or computers, I just like them to work. If it's as far removed from Bill Gates as I can get, and with flashy design that I can jack off to, even better :-) Cheers, Cott

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-15 Thread Cotty
FWIW, our 7 yr old CRT TV has been playing up and I decided to buy a flat screen TV, and snagged a close-out deal on a Dell 26 inch LCD for 369 GBP inc delivery. This one: The connectivity is excellent, and at 267 inches, just a tad on the sm

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 14, 2005, at 8:21 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: No I wasn't talking about circuitry, my guess is that the ROMs are likely the only thing that's different on the technology side. This is what I find on a market search Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW - US $799 - 4 USB 2.0 ports - US street $490-550

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 Dec 2005 at 19:54, Tom C wrote: > That could have just been your PUG Technology entry. WHich is which? :-) CRT on the left running 1600x1200, and TFT on the right in vertical orientation running 1024x1280. Both are running at their optimum resolutions however the pixel pitch differs slig

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 Dec 2005 at 19:07, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Just love that sneering bullshit, eh? Yes, the packaging (meaning > supporting circuitry, casing, stand, user features, etc) is indeed > better and that generally tends to make Apple monitors more expensive. No I wasn't talking about circuitr

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Adam, The Dell may have a nice stand and be a very high quality monitor, I didn't say no to that. I just hate the stupid sneering bullshit every time Apple is mentioned. It's a waste of time and aggravating to keep hearing for no reason. I am quite sure that a few of the additional featur

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 14, 2005, at 7:41 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Yes I've noticed that i converts get a bit touchy when their equipment is put up to any kind of scrutiny. I expect that the packaging is indeed better and that likely makes the Apple monitors more expensive. ;-) Just love that sneering bulls

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Tom C
That could have just been your PUG Technology entry. WHich is which? Tom C. From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Which Flat Screen Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:46:35 +1000 On 14 Dec 2005 at 22:4

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Adam Maas
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: O Geez, Rob. You want to continue this asinine slamming of Apple for no reason whatever? I just don't understand your desire to argue about this shit at all. Apple monitors are accepted all over the industry, in every test report, as being amongst the best out there

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 Dec 2005 at 22:45, Jostein wrote: > Hi Jens, > I'm not Rob, so I will just put forward a personal recommendation. > I have a LaCie 20" flat panel that I'm happy with. It was about 30% > cheaper than the alternatives from Apple and Eizo, and the colours > have been very stable. Good advice

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 14, 2005, at 6:46 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: That may be true, Apple buys the panels from an outside vendor of course, but I'll bet the electronics driving the display panel are different. That's not to say the Dell is better or worse. There's more to a monitor than simply the tube or displ

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 Dec 2005 at 17:20, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > That may be true, Apple buys the panels from an outside vendor of > course, but I'll bet the electronics driving the display panel are > different. That's not to say the Dell is better or worse. > > There's more to a monitor than simply the t

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
That may be true, Apple buys the panels from an outside vendor of course, but I'll bet the electronics driving the display panel are different. That's not to say the Dell is better or worse. There's more to a monitor than simply the tube or display panel itself. Sometimes the rest of the pa

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Adam Maas
The Dell 20" Widescreen is exactly the same panel the Apple 20" uses. -Adam Bob Shell wrote: On Dec 14, 2005, at 4:45 PM, Jostein wrote: Actually, I'm hearing good things about the ones Dell sells. Very reasonable in price and capable of being calibrated. If you plan to use your monit

Re: OT: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
I can second that. I've been using the Apple 20 Cinema Display for several years and remain very satisfied. Paul On Dec 14, 2005, at 5:33 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I use the Apple Cinema Display 20" and find it to be an exceptional performer. Calibrates easily, is extremely stable, very solid

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Kenneth Waller
I've recently been using a 17" flat screen from Dell. Not the monitor I wanted, but it seems to be doing the job. I have no complaints with it. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OT: Which Flat Screen Hi li

RE: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Manuel Magalhães
s, Manuel -Mensagem original- De: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada: quarta-feira, 14 de Dezembro de 2005 20:06 Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Assunto: OT: Which Flat Screen Hi list. A friend of mine wants a flat screen / computer monitor for photo editing. Which kind are considered

Re: OT: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I use the Apple Cinema Display 20" and find it to be an exceptional performer. Calibrates easily, is extremely stable, very solid resolution and high quality color fidelity. Godfrey On Dec 14, 2005, at 12:06 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: A friend of mine wants a flat screen / computer monitor for p

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
There are flat screen CRT monitors and, of course, flat screen LCD/Plasma monitors. Which does your friend desire? Shel > - Original Message - > From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > A friend of mine wants a flat screen / computer monitor for photo editing. > Which kind are conside

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:06 PM Subject: OT: Which Flat Screen Hi list. A friend of mine wants a flat screen / computer monitor for photo editing. Which kind are considered adequate for this

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Bob Shell
On Dec 14, 2005, at 4:45 PM, Jostein wrote: Hi Jens, I'm not Rob, so I will just put forward a personal recommendation. I have a LaCie 20" flat panel that I'm happy with. It was about 30% cheaper than the alternatives from Apple and Eizo, and the colours have been very stable. Actually,

Re: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Jostein
om: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:06 PM Subject: OT: Which Flat Screen Hi list. A friend of mine wants a flat screen / computer monitor for photo editing. Which kind are considered adequate for this purpose, please. I think Rob wrote ab

OT: Which Flat Screen

2005-12-14 Thread Jens Bladt
Hi list. A friend of mine wants a flat screen / computer monitor for photo editing. Which kind are considered adequate for this purpose, please. I think Rob wrote about this once, but I can't seem to find that mail... Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fr