Re: What's the going rate?

2010-12-03 Thread Cotty
On 2/12/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: One thing to note is that you're not a photo editor or publisher, Cotty. They're buying services if they're booking me for an assignment. They're buying goods if they're buying a usage license for an existing photograph. Yes, booking an

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-12-02 Thread Cotty
On 1/12/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: In all seriousness: never. I've had editors tell me everything from I don't know to supplying a highly detailed rate chart, and I've had editors tell me they couldn't afford the price I set when they didn't have a rate chart, etc etc, but

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-12-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
One thing to note is that you're not a photo editor or publisher, Cotty. They're buying services if they're booking me for an assignment. They're buying goods if they're buying a usage license for an existing photograph. Yes, booking an assignment is quite different from selling licensing for a

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-12-02 Thread David Parsons
You don't join professional organizations to impress clients and customers. The ASMP isn't going to throw prospective leads your way, that's not what they do. They provide information and organize events for members. Either it's worth it to you or not. It has nothing to do with getting

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-12-02 Thread P N Stenquist
On Dec 2, 2010, at 5:33 PM, David Parsons wrote: You don't join professional organizations to impress clients and customers. The ASMP isn't going to throw prospective leads your way, that's not what they do. They provide information and organize events for members. Either it's worth it

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-12-01 Thread Cotty
On 30/11/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: First things I ask any prospective client: - What is your budget for the photos to use in this publication project? Godders, exactly how many time has the response been blow it out yer arse! ?? ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ ||

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-12-01 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 30, 2010, at 18:57, paul stenquist wrote: The ASMP is a scam. The dues are $335 a year, for which one gets basically nothing, other than unrealistic price scales and advice. Been there, done that. Asking for $300 could very well be a deal killer here. I wouldn't be surprised if

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-12-01 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:57 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Asking for $300 could very well be a deal killer here. I wouldn't be surprised if the book publisher is hoping to get the pics for free or for a token amount. If he can get $150 for the three pics, he'll be doing

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-12-01 Thread Mark Roberts
paul stenquist wrote: On Nov 30, 2010, at 9:46 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: paul stenquist The ASMP is a scam. The dues are $335 a year, for which one gets basically nothing, other than unrealistic price scales and advice. Been there, done that. You may not think it's worth the money,

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-12-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Never worry about the aesthetic quality of a photograph when a prospective client is interested in it. That does not influence the price. What influences the price is what the photo editor wants for the project, whether the story editor and author concur with that, and how much money they have to

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-12-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 30/11/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: First things I ask any prospective client: - What is your budget for the photos to use in this publication project? Godders, exactly how many time has the response been

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-12-01 Thread Walter Gilbert
That's an interesting distinction in that the shots they're interested in would probably best fit in the news/journalism genre, even though they're being used in a book. There is definitely a timeliness to them, but no relative rarity at all. In fact, they could undoubtedly get on the

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-12-01 Thread Walter Gilbert
Oh, yeah. Given the prices on textbooks, I'd say the production budget is a fairly secondary consideration. You probably should have started out in the high six figures. -- Walt On 12/1/2010 8:46 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Nov 30, 2010, at 18:57, paul stenquist wrote: The ASMP is a

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-12-01 Thread Walter Gilbert
I feel pretty comfortable at $50-per. I don't think it's enough to scare them off even if it is higher than they're willing to pay. And, hey ... you never know. They could develop a conscience and negotiate upward! ;-) On 12/1/2010 8:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Tue, Nov 30, 2010

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-12-01 Thread Walter Gilbert
Hmm ... $335 a year. At the moment, it's a bit beyond my range. I think I'd be better off putting that money toward a car for the time being. But, now I know what happened to Annie Leibovitz. -- Walt On 12/1/2010 9:18 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: paul stenquist wrote: On Nov 30, 2010, at

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-12-01 Thread John Sessoms
From: Walter Gilbert Hmm ... $335 a year. At the moment, it's a bit beyond my range. I think I'd be better off putting that money toward a car for the time being. But, now I know what happened to Annie Leibovitz. -- Walt I spend more than $335 a year just on coffee, and I don't even

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-12-01 Thread P N Stenquist
On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:19 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Walter Gilbert Hmm ... $335 a year. At the moment, it's a bit beyond my range. I think I'd be better off putting that money toward a car for the time being. But, now I know what happened to Annie Leibovitz. -- Walt I spend

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-12-01 Thread Ken Waller
Never worry about the aesthetic quality of a photograph when a prospective client is interested in it. Boy it that ever true! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com Subject: Re: What's the going

What's the going rate?

2010-11-30 Thread Walter Gilbert
Hi all, I just got an email from the senior editor of a publishing house (Hachette Book Group in NY) stating some interest in possibly using some of the photos I took at the local political rallies at the end of October. She wrote asking for copies of three particular images, with the

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-11-30 Thread P N Stenquist
I would estimate that $50 per shot would be the max for book usage. Very few pay more for a part-page photo. Many pay less. In any case, specify usage as first North American rights. That way you retain ownership and can sell them again if someone else sees them and wants to use them. Paul On

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-11-30 Thread Walter Gilbert
Thank, Paul. I've responded to them accordingly. Now, all I need is some good ol' PDML finger-crossing action. -- Walt On 11/30/2010 4:39 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: I would estimate that $50 per shot would be the max for book usage. Very few pay more for a part-page photo. Many pay

RE: What's the going rate?

2010-11-30 Thread John Sessoms
First thing I'd do is check the local bookstore chains and see if they have a copy of The Photographer's Market. It's like $25.00 - $30.00 in paperback. I also recommend joining ASMP getting some of the guides available to members on their web site. If nothing else, get to talk to some of

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-11-30 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Walter - also, you might want to specify Single use Good luck! ann Walter Gilbert wrote: Thank, Paul. I've responded to them accordingly. Now, all I need is some good ol' PDML finger-crossing action. -- Walt On 11/30/2010 4:39 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: I would estimate that $50

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-11-30 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 06:47:41PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote: AFAIK, for IRS purposes making money from photography doesn't actually entail making a profit. Even if your income from photography is less than your expenses, it's income, and professional association dues are a deductible

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-11-30 Thread paul stenquist
The ASMP is a scam. The dues are $335 a year, for which one gets basically nothing, other than unrealistic price scales and advice. Been there, done that. Asking for $300 could very well be a deal killer here. I wouldn't be surprised if the book publisher is hoping to get the pics for free or

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-11-30 Thread Walter Gilbert
Thanks for all the advice, y'all. I went ahead with the price Paul suggested for the simple fact that the images they mentioned weren't all that unique and similar ones could be found if needed. They were simple pictures of signs being held up by rally attendees that didn't require any

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-11-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Last four book publication licenses (2010 records) I was paid for were $225, $250, $230, and $215 (full page, one language, non-exclusive use, typically one geo market). Book covers have gone for $300-450 per. All per photo, typically with single edition press run stipulations (one of them was for

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-11-30 Thread Walter Gilbert
Thanks, Godfrey. That's something I'll definitely have to file away for future reference. But, I suspect the type of photographs you've sold for books would be of a different sort than the ones they've expressed interest in -- which is to say that the images themselves were of a

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-11-30 Thread John Sessoms
From: John Francis On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 06:47:41PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote: AFAIK, for IRS purposes making money from photography doesn't actually entail making a profit. Even if your income from photography is less than your expenses, it's income, and professional association dues

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-11-30 Thread John Sessoms
From: paul stenquist The ASMP is a scam. The dues are $335 a year, for which one gets basically nothing, other than unrealistic price scales and advice. Been there, done that. You may not think it's worth the money, but that doesn't make it a scam. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: What's the going rate?

2010-11-30 Thread paul stenquist
On Nov 30, 2010, at 9:46 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: paul stenquist The ASMP is a scam. The dues are $335 a year, for which one gets basically nothing, other than unrealistic price scales and advice. Been there, done that. You may not think it's worth the money, but that doesn't

Re: Going Rate for A* 85mm f/1.4

2003-07-29 Thread Cotty
I bought mint in box from a US seller 2 years ago for $960. I sold a year later (sniff) when I shed a load of gear pay for digital and received $1150 (£750) [exchange rate then] from a UK buyer. You might pick up a well beaten example for 500 bucks? Worth paying more for a good one. There is no

Re: Going Rate for A* 85mm f/1.4

2003-07-29 Thread John Dallman
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Nelson) wrote: What's a fair price for one of these anyway? I got mine about six weeks ago on eBay for US$540, plus shipping and paying the vendor's PayPal surcharge. That auction actually got somewhat tense, but there seemed to be only

Re: Going Rate for A* 85mm f/1.4

2003-07-29 Thread Rfsindg
Nice one just went on ebay for $933.84 Canadian or US$674.13. And like John says... [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Someone else can have it when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers. Regards, Bob S.

Going Rate for A* 85mm f/1.4

2003-07-28 Thread Scott Nelson
What's a fair price for one of these anyway? -Scott

Re: going rate

2001-04-24 Thread David A. Mann
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