Re: My First PESO - 30 years late

2012-11-08 Thread Bulent Celasun
Loved it! Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml

RE: My First PESO - 30 years late

2012-11-07 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Worth the wait. That is a stunning photo! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Kevin Thornsberry Sent: November 4, 2012 11/4/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: My First PESO - 30 years late To the best of my knowledge, I've never submitted a PESO. But today, I was testing a new sc

Re: My First PESO - 30 years late

2012-11-04 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks for sharing a great memory, Kevin. Keep it up! :-) On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Kevin Thornsberry wrote: > To the best of my knowledge, I've never submitted a PESO. But today, I was > testing a new scanner and pulled out an old notebook of slide sleeves from > pictures I took in Brasi

Re: My First PESO - 30 years late

2012-11-04 Thread Christine Aguila
Very dramatic color! Keep posting. Cheers, Christine On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:25 AM, "Bob W" wrote: > Jesus of the Pylons. A very nice shot, well worth the wait. > > B > >> -Original Message- >> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Kevin >> Thornsberry >> >> To the be

RE: My First PESO - 30 years late

2012-11-04 Thread Bob W
Jesus of the Pylons. A very nice shot, well worth the wait. B > -Original Message- > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Kevin > Thornsberry > > To the best of my knowledge, I've never submitted a PESO. But today, I > was testing a new scanner and pulled out an old no

My First PESO - 30 years late

2012-11-03 Thread Kevin Thornsberry
To the best of my knowledge, I've never submitted a PESO. But today, I was testing a new scanner and pulled out an old notebook of slide sleeves from pictures I took in Brasil almost 30 years ago and came across this picture of Rio de Janeiro. It's not a great picture and I just happened to be at

Re: My First PESO (tm)

2007-01-13 Thread Boris Liberman
David, Consider this suggestion. Why wouldn't you make a regular shot of the same scene (or similar one) so that the trees would be solid black? Then you could compare the HDR variety with silhouette variety. Personally, I'd prefer the silhouette type of shot, but it would be my vision, not yo

Re: My First PESO (tm)

2007-01-07 Thread Kenneth Waller
Hard to comment on the success of your attempt without seeing the original scene, but for me I'd expect to see more detail in the trees. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "David Bliss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: My First PESO (tm) > ...and my very

Re: My First PESO (tm)

2007-01-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
Too large for a PESO. You should size it so that it can be viewed without scrolling. Technically, it's quite good in terms of rendering both shadow and highlight. Aesthetically, I find it uninspiring. But thanks for sharing it. Paul On Jan 7, 2007, at 2:11 AM, David Bliss wrote: > ...and my ver

My First PESO (tm)

2007-01-06 Thread David Bliss
...and my very first attempt at an HDR-alike (done by hand in Photoshop 6). Shadows 1/3s at f/11, highlights 1/10s at f/11, K10D at 400ASA, FA 28-105. Comments or criticisms appreciated. (As well as advice on noise-reduction software for the shadows... I meant to shoot it at 100ASA) http://keat

RE: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-06 Thread Tim Øsleby
) > -Original Message- > From: Michael Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 3. mai 2006 06:20 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: PESO - My First PESO > > This is partly an experiment in B&W post-processing, part "trying to > rescue a low-light shot". >

Re: PESO - My First PESO, The Second Edition

2006-05-03 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I'm quite happy with the tips that Godfrey provided me. Here is my second edition of my B&W post-processing. http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/?p=106 Thoughts? Comments? Critiques? Are the eyes too "front and center" now? Much better, Michael... Now, for some reason (whereas I may be a

Re: PESO - My First PESO, The Second Edition

2006-05-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
Much better. Good work. Paul On May 3, 2006, at 11:45 PM, Michael Hamilton wrote: I'm quite happy with the tips that Godfrey provided me. Here is my second edition of my B&W post-processing. http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/?p=106 Thoughts? Comments? Critiques? Are the eyes too "front and ce

Re: PESO - My First PESO, The Second Edition

2006-05-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On May 3, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Michael Hamilton wrote: http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/?p=106 Thoughts? Comments? Critiques? Nice. It's a softer, warmer rendering than I did with it, probably a bit more flattering. The eyes look fine to me, a little darker than I might prefer but it's your pi

Re: PESO - My First PESO, The Second Edition

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Hamilton
I'm quite happy with the tips that Godfrey provided me. Here is my second edition of my B&W post-processing. http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/?p=106 Thoughts? Comments? Critiques? Are the eyes too "front and center" now? Michael Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.michaelhamilton.ca On 3

Re: PESO - My First PESO, The Second Edition

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Hamilton
I'm quite happy with the tips that Godfrey provided me. Here is my second edition of my B&W post-processing. http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/?p=106 Thoughts? Comments? Critiques? Are the eyes too "front and center" now? Michael Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.michaelhamilton.ca On 3

Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On May 3, 2006, at 6:37 AM, Michael Hamilton wrote: .. It is customary to have at least one eye of a portrayed person to be in focus. You seem to have both out of focus. Yes, that's an ongoing problem. Low-light focusing with a manual focus lens. I recently purchased a homemade split scr

Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On May 3, 2006, at 4:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/joc/ I like that *more* than what I did, but I think you may have gone a bit too far. It appears to be oversharpened, but I'll work with the psd file and see if I can find a happy medium! Thanks, God

Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread mike
>> >> On May 3, 2006, at 6:37 AM, Michael Hamilton wrote: >> Michael, >> I took your original color image and did a little adjustment to it in >> Photoshop, produced a color and B&W version. If you use Photoshop >> CS2, you can get the .PSD file to see what I did specifically. >>http://homepag

Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread mike
> > On May 3, 2006, at 6:37 AM, Michael Hamilton wrote: > >>> .. It is customary to have at least one eye of a portrayed person >>> to be in focus. You seem to have both out of focus. >> >> Yes, that's an ongoing problem. Low-light focusing with a manual >> focus lens. I recently purchased a home

Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On May 2, 2006, at 9:20 PM, Michael Hamilton wrote: Technical: *ist DS, A-50mm/1.7, 1/25s, f/2.0, ISO 400. Orig: http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/joc.jpg The shot is a bit dark. A little bit of adjustment to levels, contrast and color correction brings it right up nicely. If you want

Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Yes, that's an ongoing problem. Low-light focusing with a manual focus lens. I recently purchased a homemade split screen, but it doesn't seem to work well with my FA or DA lenses and autofocus. Any suggestions? No real help there... I had to move completely to AF lenses... Boris

Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Hamilton
On 3-May-06, at 4:05 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The color version can be improved greatly with some curves adjustment and saturation reduction. Okay, i'll try that out! I also think you should remove the wart on the nose and the pimples on the chin, since this is obviously a portrait, not a

Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Hamilton
On 3-May-06, at 12:30 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Michael, the b/w version is less unsuccessful than the original color one. Yet both seem (at least to me) to lack the evident point of focus. It is customary to have at least one eye of a portrayed person to be in focus. You seem to have

Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread cbwaters
and lets see how much better it gets :) Cory - Original Message - From: "Michael Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 12:20 AM Subject: PESO - My First PESO This is partly an experiment in B&W post-processing, part

Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
The color version can be improved greatly with some curves adjustment and saturation reduction. I also think you should remove the wart on the nose and the pimples on the chin, since this is obviously a portrait, not a news photograph. The BW version shows way too much contrast with no shadow d

Re: PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! This is partly an experiment in B&W post-processing, part "trying to rescue a low-light shot". Orig: http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/joc.jpg B&W: http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/jocb&w.jpg Technical: *ist DS, A-50mm/1.7, 1/25s, f/2.0, ISO 400. I de-saturated, then adjusted the

PESO - My First PESO

2006-05-02 Thread Michael Hamilton
This is partly an experiment in B&W post-processing, part "trying to rescue a low-light shot". Orig: http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/joc.jpg B&W: http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/jocb&w.jpg Technical: *ist DS, A-50mm/1.7, 1/25s, f/2.0, ISO 400. I de-saturated, then adjusted the ligh

Re: My first PESO

2005-12-01 Thread Bob Shell
Works for me now. Not sure it was worth the effort. Bob On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:08 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Bob Shell wrote: On Nov 26, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Adam Maas wrote: http://www.uandimag.com No ads. One issue so far. Pretty good -Adam Who knows the editor/publisher. I get an error m

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-30 Thread Adam Maas
Bob Shell wrote: On Nov 26, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Adam Maas wrote: http://www.uandimag.com No ads. One issue so far. Pretty good -Adam Who knows the editor/publisher. I get an error message that the URL can't be found. Bob Just checked it, and it's working. -Adam

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-30 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Mark Roberts wrote: > > frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On 11/29/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I probably should get a life.. > > > >Why start now? > > "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates it would be superior to what > I have now." > > > -- > Mark

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-30 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 11/29/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I probably should get a life.. > >Why start now? "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates it would be superior to what I have now." -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-30 Thread frank theriault
On 11/29/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I probably should get a life.. Why start now? -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: My first PESO I'm flattered that you read my posts. I probably should get a life.. WW

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-29 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 29, 2005, at 8:57 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote: You guys need to be objective. kenneth Waller I keep my objective on my microscope. Bob

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-29 Thread frank theriault
On 11/28/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My bullshit meter just pinned. > Sorry Frank, but that is pompous crap. I'm flattered that you read my posts. -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-29 Thread frank theriault
On 11/29/05, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I gather Norm does some modelling now and again. I've witnessed it personally. It's not pretty. That tree will never be the same... -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-29 Thread Kenneth Waller
Sorry, but I've had very little exposure to a Holga. ;>) Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: My first PESO On 29 Nov 2005 at 0:00, Kenneth Waller wrote: > You guys need to be objective. Apparently the only objective

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-29 Thread Rob Studdert
On 29 Nov 2005 at 0:00, Kenneth Waller wrote: > You guys need to be objective. Apparently the only objective needed to produce a great photograph objectifying the subject or not is that from a Holga :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-29 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >In a message dated 11/28/2005 7:47:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Tact has never been one of my strong suits. >People seem to like me ayway. > >William Robb >== >Of course, you could just be fooling yourself. > >Marnie aka Doe ;-) Oh he

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-29 Thread Kenneth Waller
You guys need to be objective. kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: My first PESO I object to your objection... David Mann wrote: > On Nov 29, 2005, at 11:04 AM, William Robb wrote: > >> Seems to me that an

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-29 Thread Kenneth Waller
Key word - "seem"... >Tact has never been one of my strong suits Actually, one of my stronger suits is a nice 2 piece, dark blue with narrow grey stripes. Kenneth Waller (who just couldn't resist) -Original Message- From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Su

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/28/2005 7:47:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tact has never been one of my strong suits. People seem to like me ayway. William Robb == Of course, you could just be fooling yourself. Marnie aka Doe ;-)

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/28/2005 10:19:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > A bowl of fruit is already an object. You can't objectify it, you can > merely portray it as an object. > > People are more than their physical selves. If you choose to > photograph or otherwise portray

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread Cotty
On 29/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: >GFM, June 2-4, 2006. > >Continue discussion. Bring subjects. > >Partial nudes, if model agrees, what the F. I gather Norm does some modelling now and again. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastich

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "E.R.N. Reed" Subject: Re: My first PESO William Robb wrote: Tact has never been one of my strong suits. People seem to like me ayway. Lead us not into temptation ... Awww, you know you don't mean that.

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread E.R.N. Reed
William Robb wrote: Tact has never been one of my strong suits. People seem to like me ayway. Lead us not into temptation ...

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread P. J. Alling
I object to your objection... David Mann wrote: On Nov 29, 2005, at 11:04 AM, William Robb wrote: Seems to me that any portrayal of someone/thing is an objectification. I object to being objectified. - Dave -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread David Mann
On Nov 29, 2005, at 11:04 AM, William Robb wrote: Seems to me that any portrayal of someone/thing is an objectification. I object to being objectified. - Dave

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Shell" Subject: Re: My first PESO I was getting ready to write a response, and then saw yours. I was going to be more polite in my note, but I think you said it better. Tact has never been one of my strong suits. People seem to lik

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread P. J. Alling
]> To: Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 11:58 AM Subject: Re: My first PESO Filters don't know nothin' but they block everything. I remember a rumor from about 5 years ago that Jpegs could carry viruses, (no explanation of how they could operate or spread), the administrators of the CS

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread Herb Chong
lling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 11:58 AM Subject: Re: My first PESO Filters don't know nothin' but they block everything. I remember a rumor from about 5 years ago that Jpegs could carry viruses, (no explanation of how they cou

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread brooksdj
GFM, June 2-4, 2006. Continue discussion. Bring subjects. Partial nudes, if model agrees, what the F. Sir Dave, (The really over weight) Brooks > > - Original Message - > From: "frank theriault" > Subject: Re: My first PESO > >

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 28, 2005, at 6:11 PM, William Robb wrote: I don't see every portrayal as objectification. Far from it. I think what I'm talking about is the difference between illustration and art, the difference between a mere likeness and a portrait. My bullshit meter just pinned. Sorry Frank,

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: My first PESO Even the portrayal of a deviant sexual act says a lot about a person -- perhaps a lot more than we want to know. You talkin about me again?? You *really* should meet my wife.. WW

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: My first PESO I don't see every portrayal as objectification. Far from it. I think what I'm talking about is the difference between illustration and art, the difference between a mere likeness

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread frank theriault
On 11/28/05, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That was my point, which somehow seems to have zoomed right past > Frank. It doesn't matter a whit if the subject is an object in the > first place. > > As for objectifying people, that goes back at least as far as the > "Venus of Willendorf",

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread P. J. Alling
You been bad again... Cotty wrote: On 28/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Even the portrayal of a deviant sexual act says a lot about a person -- perhaps a lot more than we want to know. You talkin about me again?? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: >Even the portrayal of a deviant sexual act says a lot about a person -- >perhaps a lot more than we want to know. You talkin about me again?? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://ww

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 28, 2005, at 5:04 PM, William Robb wrote: Seems to me that any portrayal of someone/thing is an objectification. That was my point, which somehow seems to have zoomed right past Frank. It doesn't matter a whit if the subject is an object in the first place. As for objectifyin

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: My first PESO A bowl of fruit is already an object. You can't objectify it, you can merely portray it as an object. People are more than their physical selves. If you choose to photograph or otherwise

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread pnstenquist
Yes, Frank makes a good point. And because people are not objects, it's actually somewhat difficult to "objectify" them. The very act of photographing them is almost certain to reveal something about their personality or situation. Clothing can say a lot. The lack of clothing can sometimes say e

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Well said, Frank, and I pretty much agree with you 100%. Shel > [Original Message] > From: frank theriault Bob Shell said: > > You know, I hear this comment a lot, and I just don't understand it. > > The main definition of objectify is "exteriorize: make external or > > objective, or give

Re: Magazines and ads, was Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread frank theriault
On 11/28/05, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm..(?) You'll find out soon enough. Mark has been compiling his favourite quotes from PDML, and each year he graces us with his pix of the year. Of course many of us are more than happy to tell him how to do his job. -frank -- "Sharpness

Re: Magazines and ads, was Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread Jack Davis
Hmm..(?) Jack --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/27/05, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When a magazine's "whale advertisers" become their source of > survival, > > "Marketing" becomes their pimp and neutrality, their > > whore. > > > Mark!! > > -frank > > -- >

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread frank theriault
On 11/26/05, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 26, 2005, at 12:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > OTOH, objectifying women does annoy me. > > > You know, I hear this comment a lot, and I just don't understand it. > The main definition of objectify is "exteriorize: make external or

Re: Magazines and ads, was Re: My first PESO

2005-11-28 Thread frank theriault
On 11/27/05, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When a magazine's "whale advertisers" become their source of survival, > "Marketing" becomes their pimp and neutrality, their > whore. Mark!! -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Magazines and ads, was Re: My first PESO

2005-11-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/27/2005 7:23:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, how many realize that the Post Office dictates editorial/ advertising percentage. You have to have the right percentages or you can't get reduced postal rates. I think the current ratio is 70/30

Re: Magazines and ads, was Re: My first PESO

2005-11-27 Thread Jack Davis
My flare for the obvious. Jack --- Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 27, 2005, at 9:38 AM, Jack Davis wrote: > > > When a magazine's "whale advertisers" become their source of > survival, > > "Marketing" becomes their pimp and neutrality, their > > whore. > > > > Forgive me? > >

Re: Magazines and ads, was Re: My first PESO

2005-11-27 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 27, 2005, at 9:38 AM, Bob W wrote: My main interest in photography is in photojournalism, documentary and reportage, which are not particularly well served by the magazine market, for reasons that are perhaps obvious. The few that are around (like 'ei8ht') fit this description exactl

Re: Magazines and ads, was Re: My first PESO

2005-11-27 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 27, 2005, at 9:38 AM, Jack Davis wrote: When a magazine's "whale advertisers" become their source of survival, "Marketing" becomes their pimp and neutrality, their whore. Forgive me? For what? Bob

Re: Magazines and ads, was Re: My first PESO

2005-11-27 Thread Jack Davis
When a magazine's "whale advertisers" become their source of survival, "Marketing" becomes their pimp and neutrality, their whore. Forgive me? Jack --- Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 26, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > > > http://www.uandimag.com > > > > No ads. One issu

RE: Magazines and ads, was Re: My first PESO

2005-11-27 Thread Bob W
[...] > Now if you look at those magazines with very few or no ads you'll find one thing in common, much higher cover price (and much > higher subscription price if they offer subscriptions). > My main interest in photography is in photojournalism, documentary and reportage, which are not partic

Magazines and ads, was Re: My first PESO

2005-11-27 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 26, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Adam Maas wrote: http://www.uandimag.com No ads. One issue so far. Pretty good -Adam Who knows the editor/publisher. The subject of ads in photo magazines comes up frequently, and often people commenting don't have a clue about the economics of magazine pub

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-27 Thread brooksdj
> Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians? We are to hard to find, especially in winter(October to September)

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-27 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 26, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Adam Maas wrote: http://www.uandimag.com No ads. One issue so far. Pretty good -Adam Who knows the editor/publisher. I get an error message that the URL can't be found. Bob

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 26, 2005, at 10:19 PM, David Mann wrote: The reason why digital was adopted so quickly by press photographers is that politicians don't leave an image on film. Nor reflections in mirrors. But you can always track them by the slime trails they leave. Bob

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread David Mann
On Nov 27, 2005, at 1:57 AM, Bob Shell wrote: This explains why I refuse to photograph politicians. The reason why digital was adopted so quickly by press photographers is that politicians don't leave an image on film. - Dave

RE: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Nov 2005 at 20:55, Bob W wrote: > 'Three years ago, David Bailey put out the word that he wanted naked people - > lots of them. Not nudes: nudes he was bored of. "All that worrying about poncy > lighting, making people look like landscapes or rocks," he says. "If I wanted > to > photograph

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread graywolf
I have not seen all those magazines that have been mentioned. But the one I have has no advertising in it at all. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Jostein wrote: From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Men are tool or

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Jostein
From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Men are tool orietated. Most photography literature are tool orientated. Ever seen a photography magazine that did not have camera ads in it? www.cameranatura.se

RE: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Glen very interesting reading for me and I begin to wonder whether "ugliness" has been or could be a PUG theme. greetings Markus >> >>Once upon a time, my local camera club was trying to come up with monthly >>themes for their upcoming photo competitions. I suggested having an "ugly >>subject"

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Adam Maas
http://www.uandimag.com No ads. One issue so far. Pretty good -Adam Who knows the editor/publisher. Derby Chang wrote: Bob W wrote: -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 November 2005 20:17 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: My first PESO

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Adam Maas
That's essentially why I don't read most mags. Too much measurebating and '10 steps to instant success' articles. At this point, I read Black & White Photography (Tons of meaty process stuff, never more than 1 review, no idiots guides), B&W Magazine and Lenswork. That's about it, unless I want

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 26, 2005, at 1:24 PM, Derby Chang wrote: Men are tool orietated. Most photography literature are tool orientated. Ever seen a photography magazine that did not have camera ads in it? www.foto8.com and (not only)Black+White Magazine. No camera ads, and lots of nekkid people. Le

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Derby Chang
Bob W wrote: -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 November 2005 20:17 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: My first PESO Men are tool orietated. Most photography literature are tool orientated. Ever seen a photography magazine that did not have

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 26, 2005, at 4:14 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: "If I wanted to photograph a fucking rock, I'd photograph a fucking rock."' Easier said than done. Tried it once and when the stupid rock was at last in the right mood the light was gone. ;-) Oh no, not litho-porno!! Bob

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "If I > wanted to photograph a fucking rock, I'd photograph a fucking rock."' Easier said than done. Tried it once and when the stupid rock was at last in the right mood the light was gone. ;-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 26, 2005, at 3:55 PM, Bob W wrote: 'Three years ago, David Bailey put out the word that he wanted naked people - lots of them. Not nudes: nudes he was bored of. "All that worrying about poncy lighting, making people look like landscapes or rocks," he says. "If I wanted to photograp

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I like this guy. Godfrey On Nov 26, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Bob W wrote: 'Three years ago, David Bailey put out the word that he wanted naked people - lots of them. Not nudes: nudes he was bored of. "All that worrying about poncy lighting, making people look like landscapes or rocks," he says.

RE: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Bob W
> >You realize that inference is, by definition, entirely on > the part of > >the observer, not the photographer. > > I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. > > What bugs me, is when an "outside" party (not the > photographer, not the model, not even the current viewer of > the photo

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 26, 2005, at 3:20 PM, Glen wrote: What bugs me, is when an "outside" party (not the photographer, not the model, not even the current viewer of the photo in question) make remarks that suggest there must be sexual stimulation, lust, etc, involved in taking or looking at photographs

RE: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Bob W
> -Original Message- > From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 November 2005 20:17 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: My first PESO > > Men are tool orietated. Most photography literature are tool > orientated. > Ever seen a photography

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 26, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: And this said, I still like looking at female nudes, even provocative ones. Me and Jimmy Carter occasionally have a little lust in our hearts. Okay, this is what bothers me about photography involving nudes. It's not the photographs, and i

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Glen
At 03:13 PM 11/26/2005, Mark Roberts wrote: Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 10:37 AM 11/26/2005, Bob Sullivan wrote: > >>And this said, I still like looking at female nudes, even provocative >>ones. Me and Jimmy Carter occasionally have a little lust in our >>hearts. > >Okay, this is what

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread graywolf
Men are tool orietated. Most photography literature are tool orientated. Ever seen a photography magazine that did not have camera ads in it? Men talk about things, women talk about feelings. All you have to do is thumb through a womans magazine and you will see the difference. If you made you

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 10:37 AM 11/26/2005, Bob Sullivan wrote: > >>And this said, I still like looking at female nudes, even provocative >>ones. Me and Jimmy Carter occasionally have a little lust in our >>hearts. > >Okay, this is what bothers me about photography involving nudes. I

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Mark Roberts
"P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Filters don't know nothin' but they block everything. I remember a >rumor from about 5 years ago that Jpegs could carry >viruses, (no explanation of how they could operate or spread), That's because it *couldn't* operate or spread. I remember this viru

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have no problems with biblical allusions (or illusions). I'm a Pastafarian: http://www.venganza.org/ ;-) They probably hold the most rational explanation what's inside flying saucers...:-) Jostein

Re: My first PESO

2005-11-26 Thread Bob Shell
We did something like this one time at Shutterbug. We did an article in which we got some of the top photographers to agree to photograph differently than usual. For example, Pete Turner is famous for his wonderful color photography, so we had him shoot black and white. Jack Reznicki is

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