RE: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected

2004-07-06 Thread El Gringo
On the contrary, there are the major shareholders of each company. -el gringo There's no malevolent body of twits investing their time to destroy either of these cars. Didn't you understand that a malevolent body of twits investing their time to destroy was the major point of the argument?

Re: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected

2004-07-06 Thread Antonio Aparicio
the visible sign of the very thing that keeps you relatively virus free - lack of market share. Remember: It is impossible to make anything fool- proof because fools are so ingenious.. - unknown. Regards, Bob... The heart of a fool is in his mouth, but the mouth of a wise

Re: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected

2004-07-06 Thread Christian
PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 6, 2004 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected There's no malevolent body of twits investing their time to destroy either of these cars. Didn't you understand that a malevolent body of twits investing

Re: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected

2004-07-06 Thread Antonio Aparicio
of Microsoft and the virtues of Macintosh. Christian -Original Message- From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 6, 2004 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected There's no malevolent body of twits

Re: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected

2004-07-06 Thread Christian
Damn didn't work Christian -Original Message- From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 6, 2004 4:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected Christian, Interesting. Why the need to end

Re: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected

2004-07-06 Thread Bob W
Hi, There's no malevolent body of twits investing their time to destroy either of these cars. Didn't you understand that a malevolent body of twits investing their time to destroy was the major point of the argument? No? On the other hand, there are differences between car brands regarding,

Re: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected

2004-07-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The other OT threads are conducted by people that have some thing interesting to say, and do so in an intellegent and civilized manner, without senseless and juvenile personal attacks on other participants. Antonio Aparicio wrote:i Then what about all the OTHER OT NON PENTAX THREADS? Lets see,

Re: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected

2004-07-06 Thread Lewis Matthew
and make sure you continue to state the failings of Microsoft and the virtues of Macintosh. Christian -Original Message- From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 6, 2004 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh

Re: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected

2004-07-06 Thread Bob Blakely
or it's comm system's capacity. For this, the client (your) machines are the virus target to receive a program that will surreptitiously attempt access the targeted server. Regards, Bob... --- No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session

Re: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected

2004-07-06 Thread Herb Chong
Microsoft's support and update sites won't work. Herb - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 8:08 AM Subject: Re: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected There are plenty

Re: OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-20 Thread Jostein
Hi, Malcolm Here's what usually happens: When a virus infects a person's computer, it tries to replicate itself by sending copies of itself to others. It's source of email addresses is naturally the contacts lists in the infected computer. That's the basic of all mail worms (this type of virii

Re: OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-20 Thread Jostein
Quoting Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think what happens is your email address gets picked up somewhere on the net and inserted into a spam/virus email as if it were sent by you which it is not. You then get a virus alert warning in return from the recipients system. I don't

RE: OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-20 Thread Jostein
As I just wrote in another mail, what probably happened is that someone with your address in their address book was infected by a virus that propagated your email address to an address collector. Jostein Quoting Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote: That's pretty much

Re: OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-20 Thread Antonio Aparicio
Hi Jostein, I agree that the problem is most likely a virus [on another machine] that has inserted a false email address in its senders field to hide its tracks. This same tactic is often used by spamers also to grab attention (I have many times been attracted to a spam email because

Re: OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-20 Thread Jostein
uh... Sorry, that was a reply to D. Glenn's description. Jostein - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:48 AM Subject: RE: OT: Virus identified. As I just wrote in another mail, what probably happened is that someone

RE: OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-20 Thread Malcolm Smith
Jostein wrote: As I just wrote in another mail, what probably happened is that someone with your address in their address book was infected by a virus that propagated your email address to an address collector. Noted. Such e-mails are now reviewed by 'Mr Delete-Key'. Now for my weekly

RE: OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-20 Thread Malcolm Smith
Jostein wrote: Hello Jostein, Comments interspaced: When a virus infects a person's computer, it tries to replicate itself by sending copies of itself to others. It's source of email addresses is naturally the contacts lists in the infected computer. That's the basic of all mail worms

RE: OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-20 Thread Malcolm Smith
Graywolf wrote: Well, we can be kind of glad. You see trojans are pretty innoctuous, you have to be an internet idiot to get them. Worms are worse, and true viruses are a real bitch to deal with as they can latch themselves onto about any bit of data and get into your system without you

Re: OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-20 Thread Bob W
Hi, Thursday, May 20, 2004, 12:55:17 PM, Malcolm wrote: Jostein wrote: As I just wrote in another mail, what probably happened is that someone with your address in their address book was infected by a virus that propagated your email address to an address collector. Noted. Such e

Re: OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-20 Thread Bob W
Hi, Thursday, May 20, 2004, 1:42:16 PM, graywolf wrote: Well, we can be kind of glad. You see trojans are pretty innoctuous, you have to be an internet idiot to get them. Worms are worse, and true viruses are a real bitch to deal with as they can latch themselves onto about any bit of data

Re: OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-20 Thread Malcolm Smith
system for me. I'm just a little tired of all these viruses being directed mainly at Windows systems, so if I no longer run one (although I will still need and use anti-virus and Spam filtering) it shouldn't cause me so much alarm. Malcolm

RE: OT: Virus Taxonomy

2004-05-20 Thread Malcolm Smith
damage, and an awful lot of them are written using virus construction kits or by slightly modifying someone else's virus, suggesting that the only really interesting parts of the matter are not what motivate the people writing most of them. I can certainly understand the need to try and break code

Re: OT: Virus Taxonomy

2004-05-20 Thread Bob W
Hi, Well ... yes and no. The thing is, _any_ trojan relies on social engineering to convince victims to run it, and setting aside for a moment the question of whether Internet idiot is an appropriate term for someone merely naive as opposed to dense, sometimes that social engineering can

Re: OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-20 Thread graywolf
Looky here, Bob. I never accept gifts from my enemies. Never, I say! I also habitually trash any message that looks like it is official. You see I have a problem with authority. So when I get a message from my ISP saying there is a virus on my computer, I trash it. When I get a message from you

Re: OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-20 Thread Bob W
Hi, Ever dealt with a real computer virus, Bob? yes, I have, although not on any machine of mine. I know what they're like. I didn't say you shouldn't worry about viruses, I said you shouldn't be complacent about trojans. [...] detect it at the time. It scared the hell out of me. As I said

RE: OT: Virus Taxonomy

2004-05-20 Thread Shawn K.
Hmm, I don't understand that wonder if... aspect of virus writing. I think the value of curiosity is over stated constantly. I know a lot of hackers consider themselves on the side of good because they are acting out of curiosity and they use that to justify their actions. I think the real

RE: OT: Virus Taxonomy

2004-05-20 Thread Shawn K.
are just that damn good... Although I concede, these people are products of our shitty educational system in the end. -Shawn -Original Message- From: D. Glenn Arthur Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT: Virus Taxonomy Shawn K

OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-19 Thread Malcolm Smith
I must hate me. Apparently, I have just tried to send myself a virus - which of course I haven't, my anti-virus is fine and my computer checks out OK. So how do e-mail addresses get hi-jacked for this sort of nonsense? Can anyone point me at a suitable website to find out how? Many thanks

Re: OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-19 Thread Antonio Aparicio
I think what happens is your email address gets picked up somewhere on the net and inserted into a spam/virus email as if it were sent by you which it is not. You then get a virus alert warning in return from the recipients system. Alternatively, you machine may be infected and be sending out

RE: OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-19 Thread Malcolm Smith
Antonio Aparicio wrote: I think what happens is your email address gets picked up somewhere on the net and inserted into a spam/virus email as if it were sent by you which it is not. You then get a virus alert warning in return from the recipients system. Nice :-( Alternatively, you

RE: OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-19 Thread Shawn K.
More classic advice from our resident expert on everything!! -Shawn -Original Message- From: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Virus identified. I think what happens is your email address gets picked

Re: OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-19 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
into a spam/virus email as if it were sent by you which it is not. You then get a virus alert warning in return from the recipients system. That's pretty much it. I'm not sure whether there are any recent worms which don't forge the return address, so these days you can pretty much figure

RE: OT: Virus identified.

2004-05-19 Thread Malcolm Smith
D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote: That's pretty much it. I'm not sure whether there are any recent worms which don't forge the return address, so these days you can pretty much figure that anyone _except_ the listed sender might own the infected machine. {Highly informative e-mail kept, but

Re: PDML Virus Alert

2004-05-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: PDML Virus Alert I just received an e-mail purported to be from [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of Re: Your Software, and an attachment named application.pif. If you get such a message do not open the attachment. There are two things

Re: PDML Virus Alert

2004-05-16 Thread graywolf
. They would have to know that I am subscribed to the list, they would have to know how the list resets the mail. It is not the sort of thing e-mail bomb software does automatically. -- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: PDML Virus Alert I just received an e

RE: PDML Virus Alert

2004-05-16 Thread Shawn K.
Virus Alert I just received an e-mail purported to be from [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of Re: Your Software, and an attachment named application.pif. If you get such a message do not open the attachment. There are two things that should warn you: 1. The list will not relay mail that has

Re: PDML Virus Alert

2004-05-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
addressed to the @libero.it domain, and both had J had the application.pif attachement. J Cheers, J Jostein J - Original Message - J From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] J To: Pentax Discussion Malling List [EMAIL PROTECTED] J Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 4:58 PM J Subject: PDML Virus Alert I

Re: PDML Virus Alert

2004-05-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/5/04, GRAYWOLF, discombobulated, offered: BTW, when you think of it, it almost has to come deliberately from someone on the list. They would have to know that I am subscribed to the list, they would have to know how the list resets the mail. It is not the sort of thing e-mail bomb

Re: OT - Rare Alert: a Mac virus!

2004-04-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/4/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, offered: It's not a virus but a Trojan Horse, and more properly a demonstration or proof-of-concept. It does mean you should be careful when you receive or download files from untrusted sources but that has always been the case. This Wired

Re: OT - Rare Alert: a Mac virus!

2004-04-19 Thread David Mann
On Apr 19, 2004, at 02:23, Cotty wrote: Thanks, Cotty. Both Mac users have been alerted. John Mustarde LOL. So there's someone other than me! Yeah I must be the other one. I found out about this last week and decided it wasn't worth caring about... Cheers, - Dave (steadily wearing out the F9

Re: OT - Rare Alert: a Mac virus!

2004-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 18/4/04, IL BILL discombobulated, offered: Thanks for the warning. I finally decided it might be worthwhile to download the free Virex program that comes with the .mac account. Interesting that the virus appears to simply serve as a warning of an open pathway . . . though only if you

Re: OT - Rare Alert: a Mac virus!

2004-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] discombobulated, offered: - Dave (steadily wearing out the F9 key) Gimmick boy! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _

Re: OT - Rare Alert: a Mac virus!

2004-04-19 Thread Anders Hultman
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Cotty wrote: This is the first time since I started using Macs in 1997 that I've come across a mac virus (or rather, mention of one - haven't actually seen one) There were some Mac viruses in the beginning of the 1990:s but somewhere around 1994 all were exterminated

Re: OT - Rare Alert: a Mac virus!

2004-04-19 Thread Keith Whaley
Yet another Mac user. OS 10.2.6. I read somewhere that it wasn't really a virus, or 'worm,' if you will, but can't find the source of that info, so unless I can find it again, I'll treat it as such. As Dave says, I don't use MP3 apps anyhow, so I can't concern myself about it. keith David

Re: OT - Rare Alert: a Mac virus!

2004-04-18 Thread Cotty
http://www.intego.com/news/pr40.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Thanks, Cotty. Both Mac users have been alerted. -- John Mustarde LOL. So there's someone other than me! Cheers,

Re: OT - Rare Alert: a Mac virus!

2004-04-18 Thread Dag T
På 18. apr. 2004 kl. 16.23 skrev Cotty: http://www.intego.com/news/pr40.html Cheers, Cotty Thanks, Cotty. Both Mac users have been alerted. -- John Mustarde LOL. So there's someone other than me! Cheers, Cotty Sure, me too Thanks for the information! DagT

Re: OT - Rare Alert: a Mac virus!

2004-04-18 Thread William M Kane
Cotty, Thanks for the warning. I finally decided it might be worthwhile to download the free Virex program that comes with the .mac account. Interesting that the virus appears to simply serve as a warning of an open pathway . . . though only if you download mp3's. IL Bill On Friday

OT - Rare Alert: a Mac virus!

2004-04-16 Thread Cotty
Details: http://www.intego.com/news/pr40.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _

Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-05 Thread Herb Chong
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 1:19 AM Subject: RE: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal) I don't think you can configure the level one file extensions. What they have eliminated though I don't consider a bad thing. Anytime you need to send someone something

RE: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-05 Thread David Miers
] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 6:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal) the attachments in this case were JPG and GIF files. since MS normally configured these to open with IE, they were deemed unsafe and would not open and could not be detached either, so you

Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-05 Thread Herb Chong
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:21 PM Subject: RE: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal) There is no problem in viewing either jpeg or gif files on my system at this point in Outlook. Possibly in Microsoft's ongoing wisdom(meant to be sarcastic!)(to Microsoft, not you Herb

Subject change, was Re: clever virus attack

2004-03-05 Thread Mark Dalal
From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] after they introduced the security patch that prevented opening JPG and GIF, it took several months for them to remove that particular part of the patch. i saw a lot of support calls go by on the online help forums. Please continue this discussion without my

Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-04 Thread Jostein
measure of caution. Jostein - Original Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:58 AM Subject: Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal) i seriously doubt you are running Outlook 2000. the program depends on an Exchange server running

Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-04 Thread Jostein
Tan, As has been mentioned, the virus in question is a Beagle (Bagle) variant. If you don't have any antivirus (AV) software, download a trial and scan your system. Or use one of the online scan engines. If you have AV software that just wasn't updated, try downloading a disinfection tool

Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-04 Thread Herb Chong
Subject: Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal) It does not depend on an exchange server. Outlook can be configured to use perfectly ordinary SMTP servers, IMAP servers, POP3 servers, and the secure variants. During installation you get all the necessary questions to configure it properly, it's all

Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-04 Thread Herb Chong
contain any settings for configuring any other type of server. Herb... - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:44 AM Subject: Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal) It does not depend on an exchange server. Outlook can

RE: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-04 Thread Rob Brigham
Go into 'Tools', 'Email Accounts' 'Add a new account' and hey presto it should show you the options. -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 March 2004 11:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal) alright, i have

Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-04 Thread Herb Chong
i think that the mail administrators have removed all options on my work Outlook except Exchange servers. Herb - Original Message - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 6:32 AM Subject: RE: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal) Go

Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-04 Thread Herb Chong
Message - From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 9:20 PM Subject: RE: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal) I don't know which Outlook 2000 you are referring to, but I assure you that when I go to the Help menu and click on About

Re: Re[2]: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mark Dalal Subject: Re[2]: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal) BTW: I've just tried these other mail programs. I've suddenly remembered why past attempts to use them have resulted in returning outlook express, risks and all... Thats my problem too. I

Re: clever virus attack (more MiMail virus info)

2004-03-04 Thread Lasse Karlsson
, or pif or scr or whatever, I don't rely on my anti virus software to stop it, I just wanted to find out what the virus was. I don't receive nor read in a Windows environment to begin with. So: no need to be shocked in my case. At http://www.pchell.com/virus/mimail.shtml (where there are more

Re: clever virus attack (more MiMail virus info)

2004-03-04 Thread Frits Wüthrich
the .exe file, I opened the ZIP file, that is quite something different. I wouldn't dream of opening the exe file, or pif or scr or whatever, I don't rely on my anti virus software to stop it, I just wanted to find out what the virus was. I don't receive nor read in a Windows environment to begin

Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-04 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] My virus definitions in Norton's are dated 2nd March. The latest incarnations of Bagle emerged on the 2nd. It is possible that your update missed it, but it sounds unlikely... Icky stuff, these virii. Jostein

Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-04 Thread Frits Wüthrich
I think the password protection of the ZIP file makes virus detection not possible. My McAfee didn't found it before it was unzipped. On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 17:30, Jostein wrote: - Original Message - From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] My virus definitions in Norton's

RE: clever virus attack

2004-03-04 Thread Cotty
I received this silly email as well. It contained a Zip file that needed a code to unzip it, containing an exe file. I followed the instructions and unzipped the attachment and looked at the exe file. I shrugged my shoulders and deleted it. And some people wonder why I like the Mac OS. Cheers,

RE: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-04 Thread David Miers
see Outlook is actually way more secure then Outlook express 6. It does not allow any files attached that match the definitions in what is termed level 1. The mail will come in with the attachment deleted. This does not 100% stop virus attachments from coming in, but it does kill most of them

RE: clever virus attack

2004-03-04 Thread Malcolm Smith
Cotty wrote: I received this silly email as well. It contained a Zip file that needed a code to unzip it, containing an exe file. I followed the instructions and unzipped the attachment and looked at the exe file. I shrugged my shoulders and deleted it. And some people wonder why I like

Re: clever virus attack

2004-03-04 Thread Bruce Dayton
Zip disks or what they now call Jump drives are the ticket. The jump drives are really just a SD card or some such with the USB interface. All you do is plug it in and you have an instant drive. If you need more permanence then the zip disks work quite well. I haven't used a floppy for a few

Re: clever virus attack

2004-03-04 Thread graywolf
Probably wouldn't make a difference if you were using Windows on a Power PC. Most of the viruses are Intel specific, as well as Windows specific. However you could run BSD on a PC and be safe. Same OS as yours without the cutesy stuff added. BTW, do you know why they chose BSD rather than Linux

Re: clever virus attack

2004-03-04 Thread graywolf
So put them on that tiny digital card that came with your digicame. You know, the one that was too small to hold ten photos. -- Malcolm Smith wrote: The only niggle is the lack of floppy disc drive - and many PC manufacturers are now not fitting them. I use these discs a great deal, and I

RE: clever virus attack (OT)

2004-03-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/3/04, ZOOMSHOT ZIGGY disgorged: Would you like a large GT to cool you down? Ziggy On 3/3/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Password protetected Zip files scramble the contents enough to keep virus protection software from itdetifing the contents you shouldn't worry. The virus can't do

RE: clever virus attack

2004-03-04 Thread Malcolm Smith
Bruce Dayton wrote: Zip disks or what they now call Jump drives are the ticket. The jump drives are really just a SD card or some such with the USB interface. All you do is plug it in and you have an instant drive. If you need more permanence then the zip disks work quite well. I

RE: clever virus attack

2004-03-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/3/04,MALCOLM disgorged: There seem to be no end of these viruses now. I can see me partitioning the hard disc and running Linux on one part for e-mail. My laptop is really on it's last legs now and I would like a Mac to replace it. The only niggle is the lack of floppy disc drive - and many

Re: clever virus attack

2004-03-04 Thread Peter J. Alling
So called macro viruses will if you have vba on your system. Cotty wrote: On 4/3/04, GRAYWOLF disgorged: Probably wouldn't make a difference if you were using Windows on a Power PC. Actually I have heard tell that a PC virus will infect the Windows environment on a Mac running a PC

RE: clever virus attack

2004-03-04 Thread Malcolm Smith
Cotty wrote: Malc, external USB floppy disk drives can be purchased and will work on a Mac as well as a PC. May I make a suggestion? If you have a computer, I would hope that you would be backing up at the very least all the user data you create? Oh yes! Having learnt the hard way, once a

Re: clever virus attack

2004-03-04 Thread graywolf
Some of us have more time than money, Cotty. Sneaker net is still the cheapest WAN. Interesting, I have a LAN, but nothing to plug into it any more. Of course there is the school of thought that if they are not on the internet they are too primative to worry about anyway (g). -- Cotty wrote:

Re: clever virus attack

2004-03-04 Thread graywolf
inline Cotty wrote: On 4/3/04, GRAYWOLF disgorged: Probably wouldn't make a difference if you were using Windows on a Power PC. Actually I have heard tell that a PC virus will infect the Windows environment on a Mac running a PC emulator software. I have no idea how true that is. HAR. Yes

Re: clever virus attack

2004-03-04 Thread John Mustarde
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 21:38:02 -, you wrote: I was not impressed to be told I couldn't have a 5.5 inch drive. I have stacks of those, including a copy of Windows v2.0, in those dark days before the launch of 3.1 which made it famous. I collect and enjoy using old software. Someone has too ;-)

Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-04 Thread Herb Chong
, 2004 1:59 PM Subject: RE: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal) It does not allow any files attached that match the definitions in what is termed level 1. The mail will come in with the attachment deleted. This does not 100% stop virus attachments from coming in, but it does kill most of them

RE: clever virus attack

2004-03-04 Thread David Madsen
:49 PM To: PDML list Subject: clever virus attack I just received the following from someone spoofing me. But it is very believable... --- Dear user of Stans-photography.info e-mail server gateway, Some of our clients complained about the spam (negative e-mail content) outgoing from

Re: clever virus attack

2004-03-04 Thread Peter J. Alling
and didn't require a 286. Herb - Original Message - From: John Mustarde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 6:23 PM Subject: Re: clever virus attack The neatest thing in that sale was an original box containing Windows 286. I'm pretty sure

RE: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-04 Thread David Miers
being corrupted this way and if a virus was in a compressed file it would be isolated until opened. At least it cannot start a problem just because I opened an email with it attached. -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 8:30 PM

clever virus attack

2004-03-03 Thread Stan Halpin
I just received the following from someone spoofing me. But it is very believable... --- Dear user of Stans-photography.info e-mail server gateway, Some of our clients complained about the spam (negative e-mail content) outgoing from your e-mail account. Probably, you have been

Re: clever virus attack

2004-03-03 Thread Andre Langevin
I got something similar also: Our antivirus software has detected a large ammount of viruses outgoing from your email account, you may use our free anti-virus tool to clean up your computer software. Bad spacing between words and the word ammount gave me a cue... Andre

RE: clever virus attack

2004-03-03 Thread Jens Bladt
-file my virus program (Norton) stopped it! All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Stan Halpin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 3. marts 2004 21:49 Til: PDML list Emne: clever virus attack I just received the following from

Re: clever virus attack (OT)

2004-03-03 Thread Mark Cassino
- I doubt it anti-virus or even spam software somehow would block the unscrambled message... - MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -

Re: clever virus attack (OT)

2004-03-03 Thread Christian
, March 03, 2004 4:21 PM Subject: Re: clever virus attack (OT) Something new (for me) that I got yesterday was an eBay spoof asking you to click on a link and update your personal info on eBay. What was new was that the text was mixed into a long string of garbage with some sort of HTML

Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-03 Thread Lasse Karlsson
McAfee virus scan didn't find anything wrong with the attached Message.zip-file. Lasse At http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[EMAIL PROTECTED] where there is more info on it, says: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a worm that spreads by email and steals information from a user's

Re: clever virus attack (OT)

2004-03-03 Thread Gonz
attached called readme.zip I didn't read it... Christian - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 4:21 PM Subject: Re: clever virus attack (OT) Something new (for me) that I got yesterday was an eBay spoof asking

Re: clever virus attack

2004-03-03 Thread Bob W
Hi, Our antivirus software has detected a large ammount of viruses outgoing from your email account, you may use our free anti-virus tool to clean up your computer software. Bad spacing between words and the word ammount gave me a cue... ...to say nothing of using 'amount

Re: clever virus attack (OT)

2004-03-03 Thread Bob W
Hi, I got the same thing. It comes from email harvesters that found our email address on the PUG site. I've just received 51 of them in one go, addressed to non-existent email addresses. Anything that ends '@ my domain name' is routed by my isp to a postmaster account. The spammers try out

Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
Gee, I was thinking the same thing. If you want a client with a similar interface, try The Bat (www.ritlabs.com). I have had way fewer problems in general since getting away from MS Outlook Express. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, March 3, 2004, 3:36:11 PM, you wrote: MR Tanya Mayer

Re: clever virus attack

2004-03-03 Thread Chris Brogden
We got a bunch of these at work allegedly from our admin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), but again they were spoofed addresses. After you've been around email for a while you get a pretty good feel about which are legit and which aren't. chris On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Stan Halpin wrote: I just received the

Re: clever virus attack

2004-03-03 Thread Anthony Farr
This backs up what I speculated on Feb 26, that there must be a 'honeymoon period' for a virus between its first release into the wild, and the time that the big AV companies produce an update for it. The first they'd know about a new virus is when their customers complain they've been infected

Re: clever virus attack

2004-03-03 Thread Joseph Tainter
Our antivirus software has detected a large ammount of viruses outgoing from your email account, you may use our free anti-virus tool to clean up your computer software. As far as I've seen, these things are never in proper English. It is a consistent tipoff. Joe

Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-03 Thread Anthony Farr
It just means Mark Dalal's address is in the infected computer's address book. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got one too a few hours ago. Mark Dalal's email address noted as sender in the mailinfo .. (snip)

Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-03 Thread Herb Chong
: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal) Hey guys, I just went to the microsoft site to download the patch and discovered that it varies depending on the Outlook Express version you are running. This is fine, BUT, I am running Microsoft Outlook 2000 and it isn't indicated anywhere. Any idea what I

RE: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-03 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal) i seriously doubt you are running Outlook 2000. the program depends on an Exchange server running on a separate machine for handling mail and is designed for medium to large businesses. ISP's don't use Exchange servers for email

Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-03 Thread Mark Dalal
From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] It just means Mark Dalal's address is in the infected computer's address book. Are you sure? I can't seem to find a virus on my computer but I want to be sure before I go emailing people. Thanks, Mark

Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)

2004-03-03 Thread Herb Chong
you need to find a different email program. MS Outlook is porous to virus writers without a server in front of it that is filtering them for you. MS updates Outlook far less often than Outlook Express and it remains vulnerable for much longer, even with addon antivirus programs. MS relies

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