Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology)

2016-10-26 Thread Clark Goble
> On Oct 26, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt > wrote: > > CG: They don’t have 8 up on their web page for purchase yet. > > Which web page? It was published way back in 2009, and may be purchased > directly from IUP at >

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology)

2016-10-26 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Edwina, List: ET: ... if you object and question why I used the phrase 'almost impossible' versus 'just plain impossible' ... It was not an objection, it was a sincere question, purely out of curiosity. I tried to make that clear, but apparently failed. "Almost impossible" implies that there

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology)

2016-10-26 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Jon, list - I'm not into the intricacies of semantics - as are you, so if you object and question why I used the phrase 'almost impossible' versus 'just plain impossible' - perhaps you should consider writing style and linguistic style that is particular to each person. The latter phrase isn't

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology)

2016-10-26 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Edwina, List: ET: The universe is, after all, a physico-chemical existentiality, as Helmut points out. And this is a matter of fact, which therefore (according to Peirce) calls for an explanation. Why is there (now) something, rather than (still) nothing? ET: It is almost impossible to

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology)

2016-10-26 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Clark: CG: They don’t have 8 up on their web page for purchase yet. Which web page? It was published way back in 2009, and may be purchased directly from IUP at http://www.iupress.indiana. edu/product_info.php?products_id=207993. It is also on Amazon at

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology)

2016-10-26 Thread Clark Goble
> On Oct 26, 2016, at 11:56 AM, Clark Goble wrote: > > Just perhaps with quite the genealogical mythic etymology that besets > Heideggers and others in that particular phenomenological tradition. Sorry autocorrect was not my friend. I should have proof read that before

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology)

2016-10-26 Thread Clark Goble
> On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Helmut Raulien wrote: > > I am wondering, whether it is helpful at all to ponder about "nothing", > because I doubt that it can be more than a myth. Same with beginning, > creation, tychism, and platonic ideas. I have the hypothesis, that >

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology)

2016-10-26 Thread Clark Goble
> On Oct 26, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Jon Alan Schmidt > wrote: > > Actually, seven volumes of the Writings have been published (1-6 and 8), now > extending through July 1892. As I understand it, work is currently in > progress on three additional volumes. > W7 will

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology)

2016-10-26 Thread Edwina Taborsky
I agree with Helmut. I think, for example, the nature of the pre-universe is a 'seminar-room debate' ; i.e., symbolic, and ought to remain there for those who enjoy the smoke and rhetoric of a seminar room. I don't. The universe is, after all, a physico-chemical existentiality, as Helmut points

Aw: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology)

2016-10-26 Thread Helmut Raulien
Jon, list, So my hypothesis should not become a dogma. Could it at least serve for counter-hypothesis, preventing the hypothesis of a nothing from becoming a dogma? Though we are not in a courtroom, where the best method, if you are sued, is to sue back somehow. Oops, I might have gone on a path

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology)

2016-10-26 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Helmut, List: My guess is that Peirce would say that the existence of the universe is a matter of fact, and thus calls for an explanation; so we should not block the way of inquiry by ruling this out on *a priori* grounds, as you seem to be suggesting. However, he also would say that we should

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology)

2016-10-26 Thread Helmut Raulien
List, I am wondering, whether it is helpful at all to ponder about "nothing", because I doubt that it can be more than a myth. Same with beginning, creation, tychism, and platonic ideas. I have the hypothesis, that reverse-engineering is not possible if you only have the status quo, and no

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology)

2016-10-26 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Clark, List: Actually, seven volumes of the Writings have been published (1-6 and 8), now extending through July 1892. As I understand it, work is currently in progress on three additional volumes. - W7 will include all of Peirce's contributions to the *Century Dictionary*, spanning from

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Universes and Categories (was Peirce's Cosmology)

2016-10-26 Thread Auke van Breemen
Kirsti, List, Free after Wittgenstein: the art of practicing philosophy is the art of standing still when considering an issue (in order to contemplate it from all directions, I assume). My years of practicing and studying Peircean semiotics taught me that, what I call, the scalability of