Re: [PEIRCE-L] Existential Graphs in 1911

2021-01-30 Thread John F. Sowa
Robert, Thanks for finding that quotation: > Thought is a thread of melody running through the succession of our sensations” (CP 5.395) Now that you mention it, I recall reading that some time ago.  It must have been lurking somewhere in my mind, but well beneath the conscious level. In any cas

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Existential Graphs in 1911)

2021-01-30 Thread John F. Sowa
Bill, Your comment is very close to what I was trying to say. > I have been a musician for seventy years, and I was a serious mathematician until age twenty. (I graduated with a double degree.) I can assure you that I don’t think “only in terms of the patterns . . .” In fact, in my most treasur

Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Scroll vs Nested Ovals (was Existential Graphs in 1911)

2021-01-30 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Helmut, Edwina, List: There are at least three different ways of translating the natural-language sentence, "a human is a featherless biped," into a proposition in formal logic. 1. Some human is a featherless biped. 2. Every human is a featherless biped = if something is a human then it

[PEIRCE-L] Apprehension vs Analysis (was Existential Graphs in 1911)

2021-01-30 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Bill, List: WB: There seems to be a lot of crossfire here. Perhaps I can create a diversionary skirmish . . . I for one appreciate the attempt! WB: Okay, well, first-person accounts are suspect, one can’t generalise, etc., etc. This is a good reminder for all of us not to get entrenched in ou

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Existential Graphs in 1911

2021-01-30 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, Auke, List, All: JFS: He [Peirce] insisted that metaphysics should be based on mathematics, not on Hegel-style verbiage. Actually, he insisted that *all *other sciences are ultimately based on mathematics, while metaphysics in particular should be based on logic--the entire normative scien

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Existential Graphs in 1911

2021-01-30 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List, All: JFS: Any logician can "hear" an exciting new melody in R670 and L231 that was not present in R669 or the Monist article of 1906. Peirce didn't have to write a "note to self" about the change. He just did it. And any logician can "hear" it. But I realize that many people can't f

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Existential Graphs in 1911

2021-01-30 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Auke, List, All: AvB: For him [Peirce], as far as I understood his thought, the formal structure is not everything. It only is "the formal structure as it operates in a living intelligence". It did not prevent him from focussing exclusively on the formal structure, as his formal work shows. But he

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Existential Graphs in 1911

2021-01-30 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Hmm. You seem to be defining 'thinking' as only an act of abstract intellectual analysis. But Peircean 'thinking' includes non-analytic feeling [Firstness] as well as direct physical experience [Secondness] and also, that abstract analytic process [Thirdness]. Edwina O

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Existential Graphs in 1911

2021-01-30 Thread Brooks, William F
Hello, everyone, There seems to be a lot of crossfire here. Perhaps I can create a diversionary skirmish . . . "A mathematician or a musician thinks only in terms of the patterns, the operations on those patterns, and their relationship to whatever notation is used to represent them.” Okay, w

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Existential Graphs in 1911

2021-01-30 Thread Auke van Breemen
John, Let's take the sequence from the architecture of science: math. logic, phenomenology, semiotics, critical logic, ... , methaphysics. You assume that my remarks concern the interval logic ... methaphysics. That however was not the object of my remarks. My remarks concerned the interval ph

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Existential Graphs in 1911

2021-01-30 Thread Robert Marty
Peirce often uses the musical metaphor ... Thought is a thread of melody running through the succession of our sensations” (CP 5.395) Le sam. 30 janv. 2021 à 04:39, John F. Sowa a écrit : > Gary R, > > My remarks were ad rem, not ad hominem. Mathematics is like music. A > mathematician or