Vancouver Sun July 22, 2004
Silence shrouds the moral abyss spawned by the war against Iraq
By Stephen Hume
On what appeared to be its website last week, the British newspaper The
Independent carried a four-paragraph item dated July 16.
I say "appeared," because who knows anymore w
PEN-Ls,
This is a Presidential issue (both Bush and MSU). Peter McPherson (Prez. of Michigan State University) is the chair of the powerful external Department of Energy advisory committee. Yet he has thusfar not been pressured by Michigan citizens, nor the Michigan media to publicly call on Vice
CELEBRATE DR. KING'S BIRTHDAY BY CARRYING ON HIS PEACE AND FREEDOM LEGACY: BREAK THE
SILENCE AND OPPOSE THE WAR ON AFGHANISTAN
WHAT WOULD DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR DO ABOUT THE CURRENT U.S. WAR ON AFGHANISTAN ?
Every year hundreds of peace awards are given in the name of Martin Luther
Now let us all bow our heads in a moment of silence over
the impending demise of several thousand fascist,
anti-semitic, misogynist terrorists. (One suspects
they are not down with the GBLTGTS thing either.)
Oh woe! They won't get fair trials.They won't get public defenders.
They
What I said is that I don't care. Drop it. Don't bother the list with
old hat. I would rather than you engage in constructive dialogue.
On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 11:53:54AM -0700, Rakesh Bhandari wrote:
> Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > I don't care now about who did what when
Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I don't care now about who did what when. The list was going quite well
> until you revived this vituperation. It must cease immediately.
Michael,
since you are blaming me for the vituperation, you obviously do care who did
what when. And you are
out which many people think the anti sweatshop campaigns are meant
to attenuate on the behalf of the North.
>
> Adolph Reed once described a kind of sectarianism as always scornful
> of any actual mobilizations. I think you've been exhibiting exactly
> that.
>
> And
I don't care now about who did what when. The list was going quite well
until you revived this vituperation. It must cease immediately.
On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 02:13:40AM -0700, Rakesh Bhandari wrote:
> Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > I do not want to have to keep monitoring
the unions.
Adolph Reed once described a kind of sectarianism as always scornful
of any actual mobilizations. I think you've been exhibiting exactly
that.
And now I'm going back to silence.
Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I do not want to have to keep monitoring this thread. It is a bad time
> for me. This sort of sarcasm has no please here. Please stop!!!
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 11:55:19AM -0700, Rakesh Bhandari wrote:
> >
> > Ah so someone like Kabeer is a b
I do not want to have to keep monitoring this thread. It is a bad time
for me. This sort of sarcasm has no please here. Please stop!!!
On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 11:55:19AM -0700, Rakesh Bhandari wrote:
>
> Ah so someone like Kabeer is a bourgeois hack like Friedman? Hmm. What do you
> think s
Henwood wrote:
Student anti-sweatshop activists are opposed to
> protectionism and to boycotts.
Well they may not recognize as protectionist what other trade unionists do.
Moreover, the students don't seem to have yet put this to a vote or put it in
writing. They haven't formally repudiate
Stephen E Philion wrote:
>If I read the last series of posts a few weeks back from the USAS mtg.
>correcdtly,
>one thing stood out re: strategy, namely the intent to work on sweatshop
>struggles that unions are currently engaged in, be they in the States or
>abroad. In your schema, the US unions
Stephen E Philion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> If I read the last series of posts a few weeks back from the USAS mtg.
> correcdtly,
> one thing stood out re: strategy, namely the intent to work on
sweatshop
> struggles that unions are currently engaged in, be they in the States or
> abroad. In
both decided that it's best not to respond
> > to Rakesh's posts, which seem motivated more by personal hostility
> > than genuine political content. Please don't mistake our silence for
> > assent.
> >
> > Doug
>
> My posts can't be
2001, Rakesh Bhandari wrote:
> Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > Liza Featherstone & I have both decided that it's best not to respond
> > to Rakesh's posts, which seem motivated more by personal hostility
> > than genuine political content
Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Liza Featherstone & I have both decided that it's best not to respond
> to Rakesh's posts, which seem motivated more by personal hostility
> than genuine political content. Please don't mistake our silence for
>
Liza Featherstone & I have both decided that it's best not to respond
to Rakesh's posts, which seem motivated more by personal hostility
than genuine political content. Please don't mistake our silence for
assent.
Doug
>Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 23:49:58 -0700
>From: MichaelP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (by way of Connie Fogal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
>Subject: Moments of Shocked Silence About Biotech
>
>http://iisd.ca/pcdf/meadows/trinity.html
>
>Donella Meadows' The Global Citizen*, M
If the correct analogy is to the Gilded Age, then isn't the obvious political
problem how to ensure that the coming version of the "Progressive Era" does more
than merely rationalize the marketplace?
Joel Blau
Jim Devine wrote:
> At 10:17 AM 9/29/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >Keeping an eye on prote
JD>
speaking of which, I've noticed that the media make a lot of comparisons
between the last 20 years or so and the US "gilded age" of the late 19th
and very early 20th centuries. I think there's a lot of validity to these
comparisons (though no analogy is perfect). In the last gilded age, the US
At 10:17 AM 9/29/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Keeping an eye on protesters International authorities are sharing
>information -- not all of it accurate -- about anti-globalization activists.
speaking of which, I've noticed that the media make a lot of comparisons
between the last 20 years or so and the
Keeping an eye on protesters International authorities are sharing
information -- not all of it accurate -- about anti-globalization activists.
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By Sarah Ferguson
Sept. 29, 2000 | On Sept. 17, 23-year-old Kay Morrison of Seattle was
standing on the platform at the Bad Sch
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Subject: [Fwd: FWD: End the silence: U.S.
ther
> by the right or within the "left" is so low (at least for the time being),
> relative to the price Niemoeller faced, as to not be worth mentioning.
> Niemoeller, who died in 1984 (I believe he survived 7 years in Nazi
> concentration camps), would be highly unlikely t
Gerry, there is nothing to defend. Those who know me (which you do not, and
never will) know the utter, laughable absurdity of calling me homophobic. As
for Paul Zarembka, whether or not he is a long-time, long-respected listee I
know not; he like you almost never contributes to the list, except t
ether
by the right or within the "left" is so low (at least for the time being),
relative to the price Niemoeller faced, as to not be worth mentioning.
Niemoeller, who died in 1984 (I believe he survived 7 years in Nazi
concentration camps), would be highly unlikely to disagree or to re
Mark Jones wrote:
> Michael has repeatedly asked for this absurd flaming to stop. Is it not
> time to DO something to stop it?
The day before Mark Jones wrote (to Paul Zarembka):
> This (i.e. those arresting Paul Z, JL) would be the men in flapping
> white costs, presumably.
Is this what you h
I think most people who subscribe to this list know who pastor Niemoller
was and know the quote Zarembka cites practically by heart. Personally,
I could feel a little insulted at being likened to the Nazis in this way
(relax, Paul, no-one is coming for you, that I know of); but I think
most normal
The man in a 'flapping white coat' Mark Jones refers to was Martin
Niemoeller, Lutheran church leader who opposed the Nazis. A quote of his
is one of my very favorite:
"First they came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I
wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did
Korea is enjoying a general strike. The Russian economy is in tatters. South
Asia is exploding atomic bombs.
We have more important things to do than to rehash this.
Of course, Mark knew the quotation and so did everybody else.
Pen-l used to be a lively place where we engaged in a lot of bant
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> From: "Patrick Bond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:Multiple recipients of list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [PEN-L:11553] Re: The silence of Mandela
> Sid, yes it seemed like that to us at the tim
97 17:44:08
> Subject: mandela's silence on suharto genocide
> To: Recipients of conference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> As quoted in agitprop news 7/27/97:
>
> Mandela was silent on the Suharto regime's brutal suppression
> of political dissent a
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On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, D Shniad wrote:
> Date: 28 Jul 1997 17:44:08
> Subject: mandela's silence on suharto genocide
> To: Recipients of conference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Wed, July 30, 1997 at 13:47:18 (-0700) D Shniad writes:
>...
>As quoted in agitprop news 7/27/97:
>
> Mandela was silent on the Suharto regime's brutal suppression
> of political dissent and trade unionism at home, as well as its
> coercive labour policies. Asked for comme
Date: 28 Jul 1997 17:44:08
Subject: mandela's silence on suharto genocide
To: Recipients of conference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
As quoted in agitprop news 7/27/97:
Mandela was silent on the Suharto regime's brutal suppression
of political dissent and trade unio
Unless I missed it, only ONE economist here actually bothered to
reply to my request for data to combat the neoliberal assaults currently
underway everywhere. Not a word too on my post about a general strike.
I have to say that this doesn't help lessen the image out there,
IM
After reading that count, whatever the errors Gil points out, I've taken
a vow of silence.
Doug
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