Re: Fwd: FOSDEM - perl 6 critic

2011-02-24 Thread Steffen Schwigon
language. Whatever Perl 6 will turn out to be, it won't be a small language. And just to complement the many answers: There *are* small variants of Perl6: Perlito and NQP. Kind regards, Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon s...@renormalist.net Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/

Re: benchmarking against other languages

2011-02-14 Thread Steffen Schwigon
. Kind regards, Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon s...@renormalist.net Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/

Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-06 Thread Steffen Schwigon
in the history of mankind. If this was a real world project it would have been dead sometime ago. Don't worry too much. Python 3000 took about 8 years. (Though not sure about betas for testing.) Kind regards, Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon s...@renormalist.net Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden

Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-06 Thread Steffen Schwigon
” software, spilled over to formerly “untestable” software like Web applications and is even getting momentum on other difficult areas like Operating Systems. So I think the test suite is a strong Pro matching the zeitgeist. Kind regards, Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon s...@renormalist.net Dresden

Re: Production Release - was Re: Questions for Survey about Perl

2011-01-06 Thread Steffen Schwigon
. The language has everything I need, I just can't hack all the things I regularly use from CPAN. Kind regards, Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon s...@renormalist.net Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/

Re: Perl6 Modules - Documentation

2010-07-30 Thread Steffen Schwigon
toolchain doing that. Kind regards, Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon s...@renormalist.net Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/

Re: Perl 6 IDEs

2009-12-07 Thread Steffen Schwigon
repository. Kind regards, Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon s...@renormalist.net

Re: rakudo-current loop 2-3 orders of magnitude slower than perl 5?

2009-06-05 Thread Steffen Schwigon
appreciated. Kind regards, Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon s...@renormalist.net Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/ Deutscher Perl-Workshop http://www.perl-workshop.de/

Re: rakudo-current loop 2-3 orders of magnitude slower than perl 5?

2009-06-05 Thread Steffen Schwigon
Parrot Raiser 1parr...@gmail.com writes: If Sun's propaganda about Dtrace : http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/dtrace/ is anywhere near true Which I can confirm. DTrace *is* cool. Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon s...@renormalist.net Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/ Deutscher Perl

Re: Rakduo Logo Proposal

2009-03-21 Thread Steffen Schwigon
Hi! Why not taking a camel with 6 humps? Just joking, could not resist. :-) Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon s...@renormalist.net Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/ Deutscher Perl-Workshop http://www.perl-workshop.de/

Re: Project Idea: Perl 6 Syntax Explainer

2007-07-10 Thread Steffen Schwigon
into one common place? If we had such a collection we would then format it in a second step into a structured collection and the third step is a frontend to that, the easiest part, IMHO. Step 1 is the real challenge, isn't it? Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers http

.perl, nested arrays, parens and a bug with .perl after hyperop

2007-05-20 Thread Steffen Schwigon
contains the problem from question 1. 3. Which test file is the real one: pugs/t/builtins/perl.t or pugs/t/builtins/perl2.t ? They are similar but not identical. (Greeti+Tha)nX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon http://renormalist.net Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org

Re: 99 problems in Perl6: 32 and a question on number coercion

2007-01-03 Thread Steffen Schwigon
. Anyway, in your example I hadn't expected a value coercion (from 10.1 to 10), but something like an error if the type doesn't match. But I can't find the right place in the synopses to verify it. Anyone with a clue here? Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers http

Re: 99 problems in Perl6: 32 and a question on number coercion

2007-01-03 Thread Steffen Schwigon
gabriele renzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steffen Schwigon ha scritto: I looked at [1]. What's the purpose of multi in this case? (Maybe you wanted to write it as more than one subs, did you?) look the comment: # Yet, it should be possible to define it even for commutative rings # other

Re: Embedded perl5 modules

2006-10-25 Thread Steffen Schwigon
it gets you a step further. Try it and maybe you have the next idea as you maybe know Wx better than I do. Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/ Deutscher Perl-Workshop http://www.perl-workshop.de/

Re: Embedded perl5 modules

2006-10-23 Thread Steffen Schwigon
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Re: Embedded perl5 modules

2006-10-20 Thread Steffen Schwigon
, column 1-28 Is the perl6 wrong? I have also tested use perl5:Wx SimpleApp; Maybe an additional use perl5:Wx::SimpleApp; ? I'm just guessing... Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/

Re: Web development II: Code

2006-09-21 Thread Steffen Schwigon
server. Just ask me, now or in future. Might be good, for instance, if the projects feel too early or experimental to be hosted on major Perl/Pugs/Feather/Sourceforge resources. GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon http://renormalist.net Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/

Re: Trying to make a new operator

2006-09-20 Thread Steffen Schwigon
/ GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/

Re: the CGI.pm in Perl 6

2006-09-12 Thread Steffen Schwigon
itself with CGI in its name, it hadn't been that successful. In mankind's history, everything *not* named CGI had a chance to success, even PHP. It will be impossible to resurrect a hype around the word CGI. Because of the word. Not the api. IMHO. Of course. :-) GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon

Re: cperl-mode.el: twigils and opers

2006-09-06 Thread Steffen Schwigon
Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I checked and indeed the twigils don't work. My test source file (which worked correctly some time ago) also highlights wrong. It's for sure a bug I introduced. I now did some things on cperl-mode (eg. syncing with original v5.20) and it seems

Re: cperl-mode.el: twigils and opers

2006-09-05 Thread Steffen Schwigon
Trey Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Steffen Schwigon writes: First you could try an older revision, I recommend r7845 or r10822 of pugs repository. No, neither of those work. To see what I'm talking about, just create a file containing: use v6-alpha

Re: cperl-mode.el: twigils and opers

2006-09-04 Thread Steffen Schwigon
with high backwards compatibility is a big plus and there is much knowledge in original cperl-mode that progresses itself, even as we speak. Currently I wouldn't fork it. BTW, I work with XEmacs 21.4.7. What's your Emacs? GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers

Re: Stubborn coworkers

2006-08-30 Thread Steffen Schwigon
, not Perl6 with AnyOtherLanguage, because that's just the same old discussion since Perl's birthday. Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/

Re: Help getting pugs working?

2006-08-30 Thread Steffen Schwigon
of the easiness, although it's not RedHat-driven. GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/

Re: a practical question

2006-08-23 Thread Steffen Schwigon
with @otherstuff (the same excuse as every year). If you start experimenting and writing down something, expect me to follow you. If we know and document something in an easy understandable form, wxWidgets or any other lib can be the next step. GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL

RFF: test Emacs Perl6 mode

2006-07-03 Thread Steffen Schwigon
if anyone wants to help with this little project, feel free to contact me. Or just hack away on it from inside Pugs. GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/

Re: Mutil Method Questions

2006-06-26 Thread Steffen Schwigon
Thomas Wittek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steffen Schwigon schrieb: At least the many keywords seem to be necessary to map the complexity of different paradigms possible in Perl6. Multimethods are not just overloading as in C++. Second, the different keywords declare different behaviour you can

Re: Mutil Method Questions

2006-06-26 Thread Steffen Schwigon
around that's worth stealing. GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/

Re: Mutil Method Questions

2006-06-23 Thread Steffen Schwigon
.'; } multi sub talk (String $msg) { say $msg; } multi sub talk (String $msg, Int $times) { say $msg x $times; } talk(Hi, 10); talk(Hello); talk; GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/

Re: Mutil Method Questions

2006-06-23 Thread Steffen Schwigon
Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: multi sub talk () { say 'Loose Talk Is Noose Talk.'; } multi sub talk (String $msg) { say $msg; } multi sub talk (String $msg, Int $times) { say $msg x $times; } BTW, because we are just on-topic, can someone explain, when these types above

Re: $1,000 prize for Perl 6 Wiki written in Perl 6

2006-06-06 Thread Steffen Schwigon
Ask Bjørn Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Woah, we are getting really far away from talking about perl6 here... Kind of a usenet law or corollary? Every discussion about wikis ends in a discussion about the best wiki syntax. Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers

Re: Fwd: 3 Good Reasons...

2006-05-29 Thread Steffen Schwigon
to todays typical use of whole programs, independently of the language it's written in. GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/

Re: 3 Good Reasons...

2006-05-25 Thread Steffen Schwigon
into the problem, just use it. Perl5 is already gluey enough to not force you into a decicion for *the only one* technology. Perl6 shouldn't change that. Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/

Re: Simple Print/Say Question

2006-05-24 Thread Steffen Schwigon
. There is a pugsbugs-test for that problem. See http://svn.perl.org/perl6/pugs/trunk/t/pugsbugs/value_alias_readonly.t Currently one has to workaround that, e.g. work with hash elements and explicitly assign the result back via %hash{$_} = ... or similar. AFAIR. GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen

Re: Simple Print/Say Question

2006-05-24 Thread Steffen Schwigon
A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-05-24 13:55]: A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Martin Kjeldsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-05-24 12:25]: I understand this as the hash entry with key 'array' get assigned a array consisting of $count

Re: Getting to hello world?

2006-05-22 Thread Steffen Schwigon
of these topics on our Dresden Perl Mongers site: http://dresden-pm.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/PM/PugsFirstBlood http://dresden-pm.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/PM/PugsFirstBloodEnglish Maybe it helps. It isn't that hard but Feel free to add them to the FAQ if they are worth it. GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen

Re: Where can I find a Perl 6 langauge reference?

2006-05-19 Thread Steffen Schwigon
/PugsFirstBlood GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/

Re: [OT] TDD + Pair Programming

2006-04-03 Thread Steffen Schwigon
programming should also be exploited for them. So feel free to combine TDD with Pair Programming, but don't divide the pair. Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/

Re: Test Script Best-Practices

2006-01-27 Thread Steffen Schwigon
. Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/

Foreign modules in test scripts?

2005-02-19 Thread Steffen Schwigon
, but does the CPAN(PLUS).pm know about that option and really only download and use those build_requires temporarily during module build/test or does it fully install them? Thanks, Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/