Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving Pharo By Example

2014-06-19 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:40 PM, kilon alios wrote: > thank you Damien, yes indeed it compiles now. So I was doing it wrong once > more :D Sorry for wasting your time, I try to be careful but I make stupid > mistakes at times. Will try to be more careful next time. don't problem. I'm not wasti

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-06-19 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40025 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] Azure Storage Library

2014-06-19 Thread François Stephany
Hi there, I'm implementing a library to interact with Azure Storage. I'm already blocked at the first step: generate the authentication header. The header generation is described there: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/azure/dd179428.aspx An SDK exists for Ruby: https://github.com/Azure/a

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] c3f524: 40025

2014-06-19 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: c3f5241b513632c7fd5817a03ca759039b887245 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/c3f5241b513632c7fd5817a03ca759039b887245 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-06-19 (Thu, 19 Jun 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving Pharo By Example

2014-06-19 Thread kilon alios
did you take a look at the book pdf ? Can you see the page 34 ? by layout I mean the position of the image in the pdf is completely wrong, take a look at the html . Hmtl positions the image correctly , the pdf does not. To be even more specific the image should appear after "In order to be able

[Pharo-dev] Pharo logo on files.pharo.org

2014-06-19 Thread Torsten Bergmann
On the http://files.pharo.org page the picture is missing (it references http://www.pharo-project.org/images/pharo.png) and I think this is gone due to the website redesign. Maybe it can be added again so the page looks complete. Thx T.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Vm on Mac OS 7.5 no cairo

2014-06-19 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Is anyone else using Pharo on OS X 10.7.5? I run machines on different OS versions to reduce the risk of catastrophic failures and to be able to reproduce customer problems. To be complete: http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r3006/Cog.app-14-24.3006 reports #('ZipPlugin VMMaker.oscog-eem

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo logo on files.pharo.org

2014-06-19 Thread Marcus Denker
On 19 Jun 2014, at 10:40, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > On the http://files.pharo.org page the picture > is missing (it references http://www.pharo-project.org/images/pharo.png) > and I think this is gone due to the website redesign. Yes, it should better reference a files in the logo subdirectory…

Re: [Pharo-dev] Vm on Mac OS 7.5 no cairo

2014-06-19 Thread Guillermo Polito
Just to understand a bit more... Mayne I'm wrong, but I think Cairo is loaded dynamically by the VM, as it is a library used in FFI and it is not a plugin. So it will appear in that list, just after you use it. On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > Is anyone else using Ph

Re: [Pharo-dev] Vm on Mac OS 7.5 no cairo

2014-06-19 Thread Guillermo Polito
Bleh, even some plugins are loaded lazily :) On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Guillermo Polito < guillermopol...@gmail.com> wrote: > Just to understand a bit more... Mayne I'm wrong, but I think Cairo is > loaded dynamically by the VM, as it is a library used in FFI and it is not > a plugin. So

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving Pharo By Example

2014-06-19 Thread Damien Cassou
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:24 AM, kilon alios wrote: > So basically the image appears inside the code block even though the image > and the code block are a few paragraphs apart !!! oh, this! Don't worry about that, LaTeX is doing its job its own way :-). LaTeX try to put the figures at the top

Re: [Pharo-dev] Vm on Mac OS 7.5 no cairo

2014-06-19 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Guiile wrote: >Just to understand a bit more... Mayne I'm wrong, but I think Cairo is loaded >dynamically by the VM, >as it is a library used in FFI and it is not a plugin. So it will appear in >that list, just after you use it. I made the list after I tried using it, and it failed to find cair

[Pharo-dev] Implementing cull:cull: in symbol

2014-06-19 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Hi, maybe we should implement #cull:cull: in symbol so that it will call #cull:? Because this looks correct, if block has 1 parameter, then #cull:cull: boils down to #value:, but when we have a symbol instead, we have an exception. I can open an issue and implement that stuff, but I want a feed

Re: [Pharo-dev] Implementing cull:cull: in symbol

2014-06-19 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
I believe this was already discussed long ago, with a decision not to go further that #cull: (or #value:) on Symbol, some even find that too much from a design perspective. I like writing code like #(1 2 3) collect: #asString especially interactively, since it is less verbose. In what situa

[Pharo-dev] Auto fill free space by widget in Spec

2014-06-19 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Hi, I’ve implemented a custom model together with adapter. It works fine when I open it alone with Spec, but when I include in in the other model, it appears in a very small size and is not resizing with the window. Am I missing any magic there? Uko

Re: [Pharo-dev] Auto fill free space by widget in Spec

2014-06-19 Thread Benjamin
In your morphic adapter, you probably missed hResizing: #spaceFill; vResizing: #spaceFill; Ben On 19 Jun 2014, at 13:56, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > Hi, I’ve implemented a custom model together with adapter. It works fine when > I open it alone with Spec, but when I include in in th

Re: [Pharo-dev] Implementing cull:cull: in symbol

2014-06-19 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
For example in Spec’s ListModel there is a thing called displayBlock:. And I have to write `list displayBlock: [ :package | package name ]`, while I think that `list displayBlock: #name` is clear enough, but the block receives #cull:cull: Uko On 19 Jun 2014, at 13:52, Sven Van Caekenberghe wr

Re: [Pharo-dev] Vm on Mac OS 7.5 no cairo

2014-06-19 Thread Guillermo Polito
Then (yes, captain obvious) there is some problem when loading the library :) Now, if you exchange the dylib from cairo and it works, there is a problem in how the library is packaged/compiled. I would not say a VM problem, nor a NativeBoost one. Esteban? :) On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 12:49 PM, St

Re: [Pharo-dev] Azure Storage Library

2014-06-19 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Hi François, You might want to have a look at the code in Zinc-AWS (group AWS in ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents), in particular ZnAWSS3Client and ZnAWSS3RequestSignatureTool - it is using similar request signing but does HMAC-SHA1. From a quick glance at the documentation, it seems you have

Re: [Pharo-dev] Implementing cull:cull: in symbol

2014-06-19 Thread Henrik Johansen
On 19 Jun 2014, at 1:42 , Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > Hi, > > maybe we should implement #cull:cull: in symbol so that it will call #cull:? > Because this looks correct, if block has 1 parameter, then #cull:cull: boils > down to #value:, but when we have a symbol instead, we have an exception. > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Implementing cull:cull: in symbol

2014-06-19 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
The thing is that cull:cull: can be used on block with 1 parameter. If you consider symbol as a block with one parameter then it will work in the same style. In other words: methods that use value:value: want to ensure that they are working with 2 param block. Methods that use cull:cull: don’t

Re: [Pharo-dev] Performance for Video Games(Woden Video)

2014-06-19 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Ronie Salgado wrote > I am working on making a video game engine in Pharo Awesome :) - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Performance-for-Video-Games-Woden-Video-tp4762913p4763796.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Vm on Mac OS 7.5 no cairo

2014-06-19 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 19 Jun 2014, at 09:03, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Then (yes, captain obvious) there is some problem when loading the library :) > > Now, if you exchange the dylib from cairo and it works, there is a problem in > how the library is packaged/compiled. I would not say a VM problem, nor a > Nat

Re: [Pharo-dev] Vm on Mac OS 7.5 no cairo

2014-06-19 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 19 Jun 2014, at 09:35, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > On 19 Jun 2014, at 09:03, Guillermo Polito wrote: > >> Then (yes, captain obvious) there is some problem when loading the library :) >> >> Now, if you exchange the dylib from cairo and it works, there is a problem >> in how the library

Re: [Pharo-dev] Azure Storage Library

2014-06-19 Thread François Stephany
Hello Sven, > You might want to have a look at the code in Zinc-AWS (group AWS in > ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents), in particular ZnAWSS3Client and > ZnAWSS3RequestSignatureTool - it is using similar request signing but does > HMAC-SHA1. > Thanks! I wasn't aware of the existence of ZnAWS. Ac

Re: [Pharo-dev] Azure Storage Library

2014-06-19 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 19 Jun 2014, at 14:59, François Stephany wrote: > Hello Sven, > > > You might want to have a look at the code in Zinc-AWS (group AWS in > ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents), in particular ZnAWSS3Client and > ZnAWSS3RequestSignatureTool - it is using similar request signing but does > HMA

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving Pharo By Example

2014-06-19 Thread kilon alios
ok I leave it to your capable hands and I will try to position images at the start of the page , though that is easier said than done :D In any case chapters need proof reading so what I commit should never consider "the final version". But I always try to produce as much quality as I can. On Th

Re: [Pharo-dev] Implementing cull:cull: in symbol

2014-06-19 Thread Tudor Girba
In other engines where we want scripting to be used, we use a cull: or value: with a prefix. In the case of Spec, this could be specCull:cull:. This could be used as an extension of Symbol without spawning religious wars :). The funny thing is that in all these engines that do define special value

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving Pharo By Example

2014-06-19 Thread Damien Cassou
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:39 PM, kilon alios wrote: > ok I leave it to your capable hands and I will try to position images at > the start of the page , though that is easier said than done :D > no! Don't do anything like that. LaTeX is capable of doing it by itself. You don't know where the pa

Re: [Pharo-dev] Azure Storage Library

2014-06-19 Thread François Stephany
> > > > You might want to have a look at the code in Zinc-AWS (group AWS in > ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents), in particular ZnAWSS3Client and > ZnAWSS3RequestSignatureTool - it is using similar request signing but does > HMAC-SHA1. > > > > Thanks! I wasn't aware of the existence of ZnAWS. > > A

[Pharo-dev] [ANN] LaTeX to Pillar converter

2014-06-19 Thread Damien Cassou
I'm happy to announce that I wrote a LaTeX to Pillar converter. This converter should not be considered perfect and proof reading is required. Still, the converter could automatically convert from: https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoByExample-english/blob/master/Streams/Streams.tex t

Re: [Pharo-dev] Azure Storage Library

2014-06-19 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 19 Jun 2014, at 15:52, François Stephany wrote: > > > > > You might want to have a look at the code in Zinc-AWS (group AWS in > > ConfigurationOfZincHTTPComponents), in particular ZnAWSS3Client and > > ZnAWSS3RequestSignatureTool - it is using similar request signing but does > > HMAC-SHA

Re: [Pharo-dev] Implementing cull:cull: in symbol

2014-06-19 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
On 19 Jun 2014, at 15:47, Tudor Girba wrote: > In other engines where we want scripting to be used, we use a cull: or value: > with a prefix. In the case of Spec, this could be specCull:cull:. This could > be used as an extension of Symbol without spawning religious wars :). Yes, also I can u

Re: [Pharo-dev] Implementing cull:cull: in symbol

2014-06-19 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Can somebody please tell me the semantic difference between #cull: and #value: ? 'Cull' is not a word I ever used in any english based conversation :) Regards, -- Esteban. ps: I'm a big fan of having a "valuable" protocol, implemented by both Symbol and BlockClosure (and MessageSend), and I miss

Re: [Pharo-dev] Implementing cull:cull: in symbol

2014-06-19 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
http://www.wordreference.com/es/translation.asp?tranword=cull yet, it does not looks like having anything to do with executing a block with optional parameters :) On 19 Jun 2014, at 11:24, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > Can somebody please tell me the semantic difference between #cull: and >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Vm on Mac OS 7.5 no cairo

2014-06-19 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Esteban wrote: >no idea. >as I said before, the tiger demo works for me out of the box (10.9). >now I do not have a 10.7 but since nothing of the build process changed >(specially the cairo build), I do not understand what can be going bad Does anyone have a 10.7.5 there to see if it is a prob

Re: [Pharo-dev] Vm on Mac OS 7.5 no cairo

2014-06-19 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 19 Jun 2014, at 11:33, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > Esteban wrote: >> no idea. >> as I said before, the tiger demo works for me out of the box (10.9). >> now I do not have a 10.7 but since nothing of the build process changed >> (specially the cairo build), I do not understand what can be g

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where is the postcard with syntax?

2014-06-19 Thread Dennis Schetinin
Simple ~= Easy. Smalltalk is simple (simpler then most of other PLs), but it's not easy (to understand and master, especially after other PLs). -- Best regards, Dennis Schetinin 2014-06-17 11:59 GMT+04:00 kilon alios : > personally I don't like this postcard , it looks too much like "snake

Re: [Pharo-dev] Azure Storage Library

2014-06-19 Thread François Stephany
Got it. It's super stupid. The key they give to feed the HMAC-SHA256 is actually a base64 string that needs to be decoded. It's not mentionned in the docs and I missed the constructor of the Signer in Ruby: # Public: Initialize the Signer. # # access_key - The access_key encoded in Base64. Defaul

Re: [Pharo-dev] vm over android

2014-06-19 Thread Jean Baptiste Arnaud
> Can you share what is the intended use of the android vm that you're building? -_^ ? Run StackVM on an android is not enough from intellectual point of view ? I am not sure to understand the question. Why I do that, "Because I can :-)" I am based on the StackVM unix, my main objective is to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Implementing cull:cull: in symbol

2014-06-19 Thread Chris Cunningham
A stretch for rational behind cull: We are 'culling' the excess variables passed to the block (roughly equivalent to killing animals when there are too many of them). On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > http://www.wordreference.com/es/translation.asp?tranword=cull > > y

Re: [Pharo-dev] Vm on Mac OS 7.5 no cairo

2014-06-19 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Esteban wrote: >I do not have the time to check now (also, I’m supposed to be on holidays… the >weirdest holidays ever… but holidays after all :P). I will check it as soon as >I’m close to the infrastructure. Thank you, that would be appreciated. Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] vm over android

2014-06-19 Thread Clément Bera
2014-06-18 15:39 GMT+02:00 Esteban A. Maringolo : > Jean, > > Can you share what is the intended use of the android vm that you're > building? > - Deploying application on Android - Proving to big customers Pharo can run on ARM processor on the contrary to several other smalltalks No ? > > Reg

Re: [Pharo-dev] Auto fill free space by widget in Spec

2014-06-19 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Thanks Ben! On 19 Jun 2014, at 13:59, Benjamin wrote: > In your morphic adapter, you probably missed > hResizing: #spaceFill; > vResizing: #spaceFill; > > Ben > > On 19 Jun 2014, at 13:56, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > >> Hi, I’ve implemented a custom model together with adapter. It wor

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] CodeCity and Spec

2014-06-19 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Yay, I’ve done that! CodeCity and Spec: http://quick.as/blq9f5d1 On 17 Jun 2014, at 11:27, Benjamin wrote: > From what I remember, it was something like: > > RoassalModel new > script: [ :view :canvas | > my roassal stuff > ]; > openWithSpec > > Or you can then

Re: [Pharo-dev] vm over android

2014-06-19 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-06-19 12:35 GMT-03:00 Jean Baptiste Arnaud : > > Can you share what is the intended use of the android vm that you're > building? > > -_^ ? Run StackVM on an android is not enough from intellectual point of > view ? > I am not sure to understand the question. > Why I do that, "Because I can :-

[Pharo-dev] Cloudfork HMAC-SHA256 in System-Hashing

2014-06-19 Thread François Stephany
Does it make sense from a license point of view and practical point of view to include the CloudFork HMAC-SHA256 implementation (CFSH256 class) in the System-Hashing package (in where there's already SHA1 and MD5) ?

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cloudfork HMAC-SHA256 in System-Hashing

2014-06-19 Thread Max Leske
On 19.06.2014, at 17:59, François Stephany wrote: > Does it make sense from a license point of view and practical point of view > to include the CloudFork HMAC-SHA256 implementation (CFSH256 class) in the > System-Hashing package (in where there's already SHA1 and MD5) ? Can Cloudfork HMAC-S

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cloudfork HMAC-SHA256 in System-Hashing

2014-06-19 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
I want to have a look, if you tell me where to look... On 19 Jun 2014, at 18:03, Max Leske wrote: > > On 19.06.2014, at 17:59, François Stephany wrote: > >> Does it make sense from a license point of view and practical point of view >> to include the CloudFork HMAC-SHA256 implementation (CFS

[Pharo-dev] Pharo VM crash on seom DrGeo sketch

2014-06-19 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Hi, I have some VM crash on some DrGeo. It happens from the DrGeo file dialog when the preview of a sketch is computed. It is repeatable. I saw it on Mac, then in Linux as well. See below the log Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu iStoa - https://launchpad.net/istoa hilaire@pchome ~/Travaux/

Re: [Pharo-dev] vm over android

2014-06-19 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Hi Clement, 2014-06-19 12:52 GMT-03:00 Clément Bera : > 2014-06-18 15:39 GMT+02:00 Esteban A. Maringolo : >> Can you share what is the intended use of the android vm that you're >> building? > - Deploying application on Android > - Proving to big customers Pharo can run on ARM processor on the c

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where is the postcard with syntax?

2014-06-19 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2014-06-19 16:44 GMT+02:00 Dennis Schetinin : > Simple ~= Easy. > Smalltalk is simple (simpler then most of other PLs), but it's not easy > (to understand and master, especially after other PLs). > > > Intersting... I'm certainly too biased after all these years of Smalltalk, but I would have thou

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where is the postcard with syntax?

2014-06-19 Thread p...@highoctane.be
As I started Smalltalk with Pharo 1.3, I may resonate with Dennis point of view. Simple in syntax but not easy indeed. There are ways to do things and smart ways that require a while to sink in. Basically, it turned my mind upside down and I realised that a lot of things are easier to do in Smal

Re: [Pharo-dev] vm over android

2014-06-19 Thread p...@highoctane.be
A good place to run Pharo for IoT would be on an ARM-based Synology box. That would be a killer niche. Phil On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > Hi Clement, > > 2014-06-19 12:52 GMT-03:00 Clément Bera : > > 2014-06-18 15:39 GMT+02:00 Esteban A. Maringolo : > > >> C

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where is the postcard with syntax?

2014-06-19 Thread Dennis Schetinin
As for me, Smalltalk was both really simple and easy at the time I met it many years ago. Maybe that's because I have been experiencing so many problems on the "C++" way and have been looking for solutions… and Smalltalk had them all. But I have been teaching smalltalk for almost ten years by now,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where is the postcard with syntax?

2014-06-19 Thread kilon alios
I don't see how something that is simple cannot be easy unless its not really simple. So far I have not found Pharo simpler to Python. As a coding experience. Maybe if I stay around 10 year I will. I know there are things that Pharo / Smalltalk does better than Python like closure , or concepts as

Re: [Pharo-dev] vm over android

2014-06-19 Thread kilon alios
I got an iPhone for my father recently and he was blown away by the capabilities of the device I was describing him. Then I was surprised by the fact he was surprised. Then I took a step back and tried to be in his place. Then I was blown away too. Here is this 70 year old man, he is used to mobil

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving Pharo By Example

2014-06-19 Thread kilon alios
Yes I have not been doing that because I was lazy and struggling with the Pier syntax, but now I have learned good enough I will do it the way you say from now on. On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:39 PM, kilon alios > wrote: > >> ok I leave it

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Base62/Base36

2014-06-19 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Cool! It is a nice companion to my 8 byte "pretty much unique" generator [1], and could be integrated in my friendly URLs :). However, I couldn't prove the case insensitivity of Base36, the #toNumber: ignores characters not present in the Characters array. I fixed Base36 toNumber: but broke Base6

[Pharo-dev] How to convert properyl an Athens Surface to a Form

2014-06-19 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Hi, I can't find it. #asForm message produce odd result for me. Hilaire

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to convert properyl an Athens Surface to a Form

2014-06-19 Thread Nicolai Hess
I use asForm and it works for me. can you create a screenshot with the odd result it creates. 2014-06-19 21:58 GMT+02:00 Hilaire Fernandes : > Hi, > I can't find it. #asForm message produce odd result for me. > > Hilaire > > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] vm over android

2014-06-19 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Hi Kilon, 2014-06-19 16:17 GMT-03:00 kilon alios : > And not to sound out of topic VM on Android is the single most important > thing for the future of Pharo. Mobile market wont become smaller it will > become much larger. Because smartphones are really lately that have turned > into a full blow co

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where is the postcard with syntax?

2014-06-19 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 19 Jun 2014, at 21:01, kilon alios wrote: > I don't see how something that is simple cannot be easy unless its not really > simple. > > So far I have not found Pharo simpler to Python. As a coding experience. > Maybe if I stay around 10 year I will. I know there are things that Pharo / >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where is the postcard with syntax?

2014-06-19 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2014-06-19 22:21 GMT+02:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : > > On 19 Jun 2014, at 21:01, kilon alios wrote: > > > I don't see how something that is simple cannot be easy unless its not > really simple. > > > > So far I have not found Pharo simpler to Python. As a coding experience. > Maybe if I stay arou

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Base62/Base36

2014-06-19 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Thanks Norbert, This is a nice library! Alexandre On Jun 12, 2014, at 7:12 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Just for the record. I’ve uploaded a package to smalltalkhub that contains > util classes to en-/decode values into/from Base62/Base36. > > Base62/Base36 encode numbers in short strings. Th

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where is the postcard with syntax?

2014-06-19 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Nicolas Cellier < nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com> wrote: > > 2014-06-19 22:21 GMT+02:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : > > >> On 19 Jun 2014, at 21:01, kilon alios wrote: >> >> > I don't see how something that is simple cannot be easy unless its not >> really simple.

Re: [Pharo-dev] vm over android

2014-06-19 Thread kilon alios
"I disagree here. As an example, Android is switching its JIT runtime for an AOT one, because with JIT the performance (mostly related with UI perception) is slower than its iOS counterpart even when running on better hardware. Most of the popular apps use native multithreading intensively to max

Re: [Pharo-dev] Where is the postcard with syntax?

2014-06-19 Thread kilon alios
I am not debating well written code. Readable code must always be the No 1 priority . The questions is can you really rely on it ? Because in the end design decisions will be made , or people will not agree on what "beautiful code" really is. So I think aim for beautiful code, expect ugly code, be

[Pharo-dev] Configuration Browser and Pharo4

2014-06-19 Thread Nicolai Hess
How can I make configurations from MetaRepoPharo30 work on Pharo4? I have switched the Repository from MetaRepoPhar40 to MetaRepoPharo30 and tried to load NaCl (Install stable version). It fails with 'Name not found: FFI' And ConfigurationOfFFI doesn't load either. btw, If I loaded a Configurati

Re: [Pharo-dev] Configuration Browser and Pharo4

2014-06-19 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
you can change #metacelloPlatformAttributes to accept Pharo3 stable versions. … at your own risk, of course :) Esteban On 19 Jun 2014, at 18:31, Nicolai Hess wrote: > How can I make configurations from > MetaRepoPharo30 work on Pharo4? > > I have switched the Repository from > MetaRepoPhar40 t

Re: [Pharo-dev] Configuration Browser and Pharo4

2014-06-19 Thread Nicolai Hess
Great, it works. Thank you. 2014-06-19 23:34 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano : > you can change #metacelloPlatformAttributes to accept Pharo3 stable > versions. > … at your own risk, of course :) > > Esteban > > On 19 Jun 2014, at 18:31, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > How can I make configurations from

[Pharo-dev] Athens and StrikeFont ( again )

2014-06-19 Thread Nicolai Hess
If I take a fresh pharo image I always have to reenable FT fonts before doing any athens rendering with text (RMOD StrikeFont(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #getPreciseHeight). Ok, I know I have to open settings disable then enable FreeType and choose a FreeType font. But what exactly is the problem

Re: [Pharo-dev] Athens and StrikeFont ( again )

2014-06-19 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Times to times, font are displayed in a very weir fashion: small and big letter. Width is not properly computed in addition. Alexandre > Le 19-06-2014 à 18:26, Nicolai Hess a écrit : > > > If I take a fresh pharo image I always have to reenable FT fonts before > doing any athens rendering wi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Implementing cull:cull: in symbol

2014-06-19 Thread David T. Lewis
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 11:24:33AM -0300, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > Can somebody please tell me the semantic difference between #cull: and > #value: ? > 'Cull' is not a word I ever used in any english based conversation :) Hi Esteban, I am an American English speaker, and I have never used t

Re: [Pharo-dev] Implementing cull:cull: in symbol

2014-06-19 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Le 20 juin 2014 02:16, "David T. Lewis" a écrit : > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 11:24:33AM -0300, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > > Can somebody please tell me the semantic difference between #cull: and #value: ? > > 'Cull' is not a word I ever used in any english based conversation :) > > Hi Esteban,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Complaints about Spec

2014-06-19 Thread stepharo
Did you check that in Phro for the entreprise there is a calculator tutorial based on spec. Sven I'm interested reading yours. Yuriy if you give us 1% of the money spent on Cocoa pharo will not look the same at all. Did you see that most of us are not payed to develop pharo? Stef On 18/6/

Re: [Pharo-dev] Athens and StrikeFont ( again )

2014-06-19 Thread stepharo
On 20/6/14 00:26, Nicolai Hess wrote: If I take a fresh pharo image I always have to reenable FT fonts before doing any athens rendering with text (RMOD StrikeFont(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #getPreciseHeight). Ok, I know I have to open settings disable then enable FreeType and choose a FreeT

Re: [Pharo-dev] Complaints about Spec

2014-06-19 Thread stepharo
Hi ben I understand your frustration, but writing doc takes time. I have a more industry oriented example in polishing mode I can review it if you need. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo VM crash on seom DrGeo sketch

2014-06-19 Thread stepharo
Hilaire do you have the error stack? Because the vm crash does not help. Stef On 19/6/14 18:25, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Hi, I have some VM crash on some DrGeo. It happens from the DrGeo file dialog when the preview of a sketch is computed. It is repeatable. I saw it on Mac, then in Linux as

Re: [Pharo-dev] Complaints about Spec

2014-06-19 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Yes Stef, I know. And in the end I’ve made and adapter for CodeCity: http://quick.as/blq9f5d1 cool, no? We all get frustrated from time to time, I just wanted to point out that we need a straightforward tutorial on building apps with UIs. And Spec is not bad. And I will take a look at the tutori