[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 4805ad: 40590

2015-04-01 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 4805add75116026600a454db57168d2d81514b30 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/4805add75116026600a454db57168d2d81514b30 Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
What about a couple of screenshots for lazy people like me ? On 01 Apr 2015, at 11:44, Aliaksei Syrel alex.sy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We would like to present a brand new Spotter design! It follows all modern UI techniques as flat and material design. Feel the future coming! Update

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New service: The Pharo catalog

2015-04-01 Thread kilon alios
does the project info depend on the sthub page of the project ? also you put too close Copyright (C) 2015, by Esteban Lorenzano for the Pharo project. people may think that you are the author of all projects. I know you are super Pharo coder, but even a super man coder like you cant create so

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2015-04-01 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40590 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Tudor Girba
Nah, you have to experience it first hand yourself. It's too cool to experience it via a dead picture. Cheers, Doru On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: What about a couple of screenshots for lazy people like me ? On 01 Apr 2015, at 11:44, Aliaksei

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Tudor Girba
:) -- www.tudorgirba.com Every thing has its own flow On 01 Apr 2015, at 12:03, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Is it available in the new moose image? Because besides the red color I don’t see anything new :( Uko On 01 Apr 2015, at 11:53, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com

[Pharo-dev] [ANN] New service: The Pharo catalog

2015-04-01 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, Last week I made a super small project to consolidate all projects published in all metarepos. Is very simple, in the style of smalltalkhub repository list, but it shows all projects with the info their owners provided. Yes, it could be a lot better, but we do not want to lose much time

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread kilon alios
tried on a new Pharo 4 image, i get tons of the same error Error: instances of Unidentified Object are not indexable . It keeps erroring forever and it does not even allow me to open the debugger :(

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Jigyasa Grover
The idea to have corresponding tooltip alongwith the shortcuts (OS dependent) is a very nice idea indeed . On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:50 PM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: ok it works with fresh latest image. The new color does not respect the dark theme. I really like the tooltips,

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New service: The Pharo catalog

2015-04-01 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 01 Apr 2015, at 12:23, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: does the project info depend on the sthub page of the project ? yes, check “a note to developers” link :) also you put too close Copyright (C) 2015, by Esteban Lorenzano for the Pharo project. people may think

[Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Aliaksei Syrel
Hi, We would like to present a brand new Spotter design! It follows all modern UI techniques as flat and material design. Feel the future coming! Update Spotter to the latest version: { { 'ConfigurationOfRubric'. 'AlainPlantec'. 'Rubric' }. { 'ConfigurationOfGlamourCore'. 'Moose'.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Xtreams Now in MetaRepoForPharo40

2015-04-01 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Sean, Did you have a look at the CI job for Xtreams ? Maybe we should add a 4.0 build target ? Sven On 01 Apr 2015, at 05:23, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: It was a bit ugly, but it's working, and I asked a question on the MetaC list about cleaning it up. -

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Is it available in the new moose image? Because besides the red color I don’t see anything new :( Uko On 01 Apr 2015, at 11:53, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Nah, you have to experience it first hand yourself. It's too cool to experience it via a dead picture. Cheers, Doru

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread kilon alios
ok it works with fresh latest image. The new color does not respect the dark theme. I really like the tooltips, is it possible to adjust tooltip depending on the OS so it displays the appropriate shortcut ? On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:14 PM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: tried on a new

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New service: The Pharo catalog

2015-04-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
EstebanLM wrote it shows all projects with the info their owners provided. Great start! Thanks :) - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-New-service-The-Pharo-catalog-tp4816585p4816627.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive

Re: [Pharo-dev] Xtreams Now in MetaRepoForPharo40

2015-04-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote Did you have a look at the CI job for Xtreams ? I didn't know there was one! It looks like there was already a 4.0 target, which is passing again now. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New service: The Pharo catalog

2015-04-01 Thread Tudor Girba
Great job! Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com Every thing has its own flow On 01 Apr 2015, at 12:13, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Last week I made a super small project to consolidate all projects published in all metarepos. Is very simple, in the style of smalltalkhub

[Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo Consortium New Academic Partner: UMMISCO

2015-04-01 Thread Marcus Denker
The Pharo Consortium is very happy to announce that UMMISCO has joined the Consortium as an Academic Partner. UMMISCO is an international research unit under the supervision of IRD (Research for Development) and UPMC (Université Pierre Marie Curie) located in France, Senegal, Morocco, Cameroun

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New service: The Pharo catalog

2015-04-01 Thread stepharo
thanks esteban! Nice to see my old catalog project getting used even if we will kill it one of these days. Le 1/4/15 12:13, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit : Hi, Last week I made a super small project to consolidate all projects published in all metarepos. Is very simple, in the style of

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread stepharo
Hi Aliaksei I have a question. Why do we have to do that all this list and not one single ConfigurationOfGTSpotter new load. Stef Hi, We would like to present a brand new Spotter design! It follows all modern UI techniques as flat and material design. Feel the future coming! Update

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Serge Stinckwich
Squeak is back ;-) I love the tooltips, the background I'm not sure. We will see in the long term. Thank you guys for your hard work for modernizing Pharo UI On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Aliaksei Syrel alex.sy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We would like to present a brand new Spotter design!

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 01 Apr 2015, at 13:56, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: I am saying that the current look is universally applicable and should be used as is without alteration for all eternity :). I have to agree. I was going to complain before seen it, until I noticed that red is very sexy.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
I bet that with dark background acidic purple will look better. Uko On 01 Apr 2015, at 13:56, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: I am saying that the current look is universally applicable and should be used as is without alteration for all eternity :). Doru --

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 01.04.2015 um 14:14 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: On 01 Apr 2015, at 13:56, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com mailto:tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: I am saying that the current look is universally applicable and should be used as is without alteration for all eternity

Re: [Pharo-dev] Xtreams Now in MetaRepoForPharo40

2015-04-01 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 01 Apr 2015, at 14:10, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote Did you have a look at the CI job for Xtreams ? I didn't know there was one! It looks like there was already a 4.0 target, which is passing again now. Super! Thank you. - Cheers,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_gustibus_non_est_disputandum I would prefer (esp in the dark theme) a grayscale version. This is too much in your face and candy like, but I must admit it is well done. On 01 Apr 2015, at 12:48, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: What's wrong with the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Peter Uhnák
It took me a minute... but well done. :) Peter On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_gustibus_non_est_disputandum I would prefer (esp in the dark theme) a grayscale version. This is too much in your face and candy like,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread kilon alios
My opinion : Even when a tool has its own theme support should still support and respect the central theme.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Tudor Girba
What's wrong with the color? Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com Every thing has its own flow On 01 Apr 2015, at 12:40, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 01 Apr 2015, at 12:05, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: :) It is probably completely rewritten under the hood ;-)

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New service: The Pharo catalog

2015-04-01 Thread Norbert Hartl
Cool! At the moment I'm searching where to put a description for the projects :) I was asking myself why the link of a project opens a small project description taken from the metacello config instead just opening the project on smalltalkhub. Or from where are the projects in this list are

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Tudor Girba
I am saying that the current look is universally applicable and should be used as is without alteration for all eternity :). Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com Every thing has its own flow On 01 Apr 2015, at 13:22, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: can you explain a bit more what you mean

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 01 Apr 2015, at 12:05, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: :) It is probably completely rewritten under the hood ;-) The color, hmm, not what I would choose ... -- www.tudorgirba.com Every thing has its own flow On 01 Apr 2015, at 12:03, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New service: The Pharo catalog

2015-04-01 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 01 Apr 2015, at 13:04, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Cool! At the moment I'm searching where to put a description for the projects :) I was asking myself why the link of a project opens a small project description taken from the metacello config instead just opening the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread kilon alios
can you explain a bit more what you mean ? are you referring to the pharo central theme or GTSpotter theme ? It will be a huge pain for users to set a separate theme for each tool inside pharo. On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: But we think that

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 01 Apr 2015, at 13:07, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: My opinion : Even when a tool has its own theme support should still support and respect the central theme. +42

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Serge Stinckwich
Ahah, I understand now ;-) On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Nah, you have to experience it first hand yourself. It's too cool to experience it via a dead picture. Cheers, Doru On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New service: The Pharo catalog

2015-04-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
stepharo wrote Nice to see my old catalog project getting used even if we will kill it one of these days. Step by step we do some little good thing today while waiting to implement the perfect solution. And probably that thing teaches us something and helps us to get there faster! -

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi! The only difference I see so far is that the new spotter is much faster. I really like this. Beside the pink color, is there anything I should look at? Oh yes, this anonymous data makes me cry. Yesterday I experienced one of the heaviest frustration of 2015. There is no point in collecting

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread stepharo
I found it a bit too girlish (crash two times before being able to load it). Or it should be a multiple color pinkish style and we should have yellowish, greenish, bluesish windows like in squeak. Now I do not think that it really map with the style that we want to give to pharo. Stef Le

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Aliaksei Syrel
Hi Stef, I have a question. Why do we have to do that all this list and not one single ConfigurationOfGTSpotter new load. Just to make sure that everything is up-to-date ;) Yes, and it should be loaded in the latest Pharo. Cheers, Alex On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:05 PM, stepharo

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2015-04-01 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40591 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 39e425: 40591

2015-04-01 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 39e425ae36ecbbfbdc78b9fd51fac8c2917da57b https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/39e425ae36ecbbfbdc78b9fd51fac8c2917da57b Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pull Request for UpdatedPharoByExample

2015-04-01 Thread Dmitri Zagidulin
Yeah, I've noticed the Travis build failing. I suspect it's something with the config (or DNS, or the package list..). I opened an issue for it: https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/UpdatedPharoByExample/issues/4 Also, while we're on the subject - what's the difference between the Jenkins

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Pharo-Launcher package for Mac and Windows

2015-04-01 Thread Andreas Wacknitz
Am 01.04.15 um 17:37 schrieb Damien Cassou: Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com writes: Damien Cassou wrote Great! Can we add permalinks for latest for each platform? Then we can replace the CI links in the instructions e.g. on StHub... please do. I tried but the files don't seem to be

[Pharo-dev] Moose 5.1 on Pharo-4, .0 (was: Brand new modern Spotter design!)

2015-04-01 Thread Andreas Wacknitz
Hi, I have downloaded the latest moose-5.1 build (from jenkins) in order to have a look for the latest gt tools. There seem to be a problem with moose on Pharo-4.0 for some time now: If I try to open a menu (I don't know its name; its opened by clicking the little triangle in the top right

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Pharo-Launcher package for Mac and Windows

2015-04-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 01 Apr 2015, at 17:51, Andreas Wacknitz a.wackn...@gmx.de wrote: Am 01.04.15 um 17:37 schrieb Damien Cassou: Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com writes: Damien Cassou wrote Great! Can we add permalinks for latest for each platform? Then we can replace the CI links in the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Serge Stinckwich
I'm addicted to the color now ! Please continue with the other GT-Tools :-) On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Aliaksei Syrel alex.sy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We would like to present a brand new Spotter design! It follows all modern UI techniques as flat and material design. Feel the future

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Pharo-Launcher package for Mac and Windows

2015-04-01 Thread Damien Cassou
Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com writes: Damien Cassou wrote Great! Can we add permalinks for latest for each platform? Then we can replace the CI links in the instructions e.g. on StHub... please do. I tried but the files don't seem to be copied over to files.pharo.org, that is

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Returning to the childish look of Squeak? Acceptable as an april fool... Bye T.     Gesendet: Mittwoch, 01. April 2015 um 11:44 Uhr Von: Aliaksei Syrel alex.sy...@gmail.com An: Pharo Development List pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org Betreff: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design! Hi,   We would

Re: [Pharo-dev] Moose 5.1 on Pharo-4, .0

2015-04-01 Thread Andreas Wacknitz
Am 01.04.15 um 18:01 schrieb Andreas Wacknitz: Hi, I have downloaded the latest moose-5.1 build (from jenkins) in order to have a look for the latest gt tools. There seem to be a problem with moose on Pharo-4.0 for some time now: If I try to open a menu (I don't know its name; its opened by

Re: [Pharo-dev] Moose 5.1 on Pharo-4, .0 (was: Brand new modern Spotter design!)

2015-04-01 Thread Andrei Chis
This is a problem we are having with icons: a lot of them do not work any more but are used in various themes. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15277/some-icons-from-ThemeIcons-are-broken Cheers, Andrei On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Andreas Wacknitz a.wackn...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I have

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread Damien Cassou
Peter Uhnák i.uh...@gmail.com writes: It took me a minute... but well done. :) same for me. I found it strange at the beginning but when I got it... great job! -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing

Re: [Pharo-dev] GitHub SquareBracketAssociates

2015-04-01 Thread Jigyasa Grover
Hey Sean ! I have sent an invite to join SquareBracketsAssociates. Thanks and Regards Jigyasa Grover On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 3:10 AM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Will someone please add me to the team. Thanks. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc Roadmap

2015-04-01 Thread Alain Plantec via Pharo-dev
---BeginMessage--- We’ve implemented a lot of examples. please have a look. Thanks - I have and they are also great. But AFAICT it's impossible to tell from the examples /why/ e.g. we went from Morphs owning their step actions to block-based steps registered with a scheduler that is

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc Roadmap

2015-04-01 Thread Alain Plantec via Pharo-dev
---BeginMessage--- On 01 Apr 2015, at 22:15, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: yes, we know, we are preparing a documentation. Great! Is the WIP publicly available (e.g. in one of our Pillar/GitHub repos)? Btw. the class comments are reeeally great! I'm only talking about

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Pharo-Launcher package for Mac and Windows

2015-04-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
You might want to rename it to something more mac-ish because there will be other md5sum files for other platforms. I thought I set it to be named latest.dmg.md5sum. I figured the dmg would make it self-explanatory and mirror the main artifact name. Do you disagree? - Cheers, Sean --

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Pharo-Launcher package for Mac and Windows

2015-04-01 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Cyril Ferlicot cyril.ferli...@gmail.com writes: On 31 March 2015 at 17:22, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com writes: Regarding Windows... Last that I looked, the

Re: [Pharo-dev] 14606 Really Important bug - Can't see some variables values while debugging closure

2015-04-01 Thread stepharo
Thanks ben Several rmoder are busy with paper deadline for this evening. ... Stef Le 1/4/15 18:56, Ben Coman a écrit : Issue 14606 [1] is tagged Really Important where evaluating | t1 t2 t3 t4 t5 t6 | t1 := 1. t2 := 2. t3 := 3. t4 := 4. t5 := 5 . t6 := 6.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc Roadmap

2015-04-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
did you read the class comments? or Morph and Views Yes. I see that the Morph is delegating it's drawing to a View, but what I'm interested in is the rationale. I believe that documenting the design at a higher level, so everyone can understand the rationale and features, is the only way to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc Roadmap

2015-04-01 Thread Alain Plantec via Pharo-dev
---BeginMessage--- Hello Sean, On 01 Apr 2015, at 20:39, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: did you read the class comments? or Morph and Views Yes. I see that the Morph is delegating it's drawing to a View, but what I'm interested in is the rationale. I believe that

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread stepharo
Le 1/4/15 16:57, Torsten Bergmann a écrit : Returning to the childish look of Squeak? Acceptable as an april fool... indeed http://artsytime.com/img/fun/girlish-transformer/girlish-transformer05.jpg

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc Roadmap

2015-04-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
yes, we know, we are preparing a documentation. Great! Is the WIP publicly available (e.g. in one of our Pillar/GitHub repos)? Btw. the class comments are reeeally great! I'm only talking about documenting design rationale. We did them twice :) I'm probably looking in the wrong place. Do

[Pharo-dev] GitHub SquareBracketAssociates

2015-04-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Will someone please add me to the team. Thanks. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/GitHub-SquareBracketAssociates-tp4816789.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Enhancing the AST API

2015-04-01 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 01/04/2015 22:34, stepharo a écrit : Well, I'm allways under the assumption that an instance variable is internal only and that, when querying an AST node, I should allways use its API (is that usually #startPosition and #stopPosition?). Me too The implication of my proposal is to also

[Pharo-dev] 14606 Really Important bug - Can't see some variables values while debugging closure

2015-04-01 Thread Ben Coman
Issue 14606 [1] is tagged Really Important where evaluating | t1 t2 t3 t4 t5 t6 | t1 := 1. t2 := 2. t3 := 3. t4 := 4. t5 := 5 . t6 := 6. [t5 := 50. t6 := 60. t3 + t4. 1 halt. ] value = can't see the value of t4, t5, t6. I've

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc Roadmap

2015-04-01 Thread stepharo
did you read the class comments? or Morph and Views Decorators are not modularly extensible Bloc use a chain of command. Much better Le 30/3/15 19:41, Sean P. DeNigris a écrit : I created a page at https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-workingRoadmaps/blob/master/BlocRoadmap.md I started with

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc Contributions

2015-04-01 Thread stepharo
cool I cannot because only the owner can update such features such alain will certainly do it. I started to write tests to understand some aspects of block. Not much but I found bugs that way. Stef Le 30/3/15 14:46, Sean P. DeNigris a écrit : Alain, maybe we should move Bloc to a repo owned

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc Roadmap

2015-04-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
yes, we know, we are preparing a documentation. Great! Is the WIP publicly available (e.g. in one of our Pillar/GitHub repos)? Btw. the class comments are reeeally great! I'm only talking about documenting design rationale. We’ve implemented a lot of examples. please have a look. Thanks - I

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoV30.sources in Pharo 4.0 download

2015-04-01 Thread stepharo
I think so. Stef Le 1/4/15 22:23, Chris Cunningham a écrit : Is there a plan to condense changes and build a new sources file for the 4.0 release? Just curious -cbc On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com mailto:maxle...@gmail.com wrote: On 01 Apr 2015, at

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bloc Roadmap

2015-04-01 Thread stepharo
yes, we know, we are preparing a documentation. Great! Is the WIP publicly available (e.g. in one of our Pillar/GitHub repos)? Btw. the class comments are reeeally great! I'm only talking about documenting design rationale. We did them twice :) And some of them should be improved. To doc

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo Consortium New Academic Partner: UMMISCO

2015-04-01 Thread stepharo
Welcome UMMISCO Stef Le 1/4/15 14:47, Marcus Denker a écrit : The Pharo Consortium is very happy to announce that UMMISCO has joined the Consortium as an Academic Partner. UMMISCO is an international research unit under the supervision of IRD (Research for Development) and UPMC (Université

[Pharo-dev] Got a strange font bug

2015-04-01 Thread stepharo
HI we were improving the selection of instance variables of the refactorings via nautilus when suddenly the font got broken. We got a problem with strikefont holding a number of something like that. Impossible to debug - it would be great to have a rescue path (may be via the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Binding semantics of SystemDictionary

2015-04-01 Thread stepharo
Please do not use Smalltalk at: We will ban it for real! Stef Le 31/3/15 20:49, Max Leske a écrit : Hi Tommaso and I, while hacking on Fuel, today discovered that globals in Pharo can have very weird bindings (I guess some of you already know that). For example: class := Class new

[Pharo-dev] PharoV30.sources in Pharo 4.0 download

2015-04-01 Thread Dmitri Zagidulin
I noticed that the Pharo 4.0 full distribution zip file off of Pharo.org/download contains PharoV30.sources (and not, say, PharoV40.sources). This is true for all 3 platforms: - http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo4.0-mac.zip - http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo4.0-win.zip -

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoV30.sources in Pharo 4.0 download

2015-04-01 Thread Chris Cunningham
Is there a plan to condense changes and build a new sources file for the 4.0 release? Just curious -cbc On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: On 01 Apr 2015, at 22:12, Dmitri Zagidulin dmi...@zagidulin.net wrote: I noticed that the Pharo 4.0 full distribution

Re: [Pharo-dev] Enhancing the AST API

2015-04-01 Thread stepharo
I do not know. personally shorter is not a good measure to me. When I spend time understanding code I prefer simpler to understand than cryptic. Now I will have to check what is stored exactly and its meaning. Stef what about leftIndex? it's shorter On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Thierry

Re: [Pharo-dev] in Pharo4.0, Latest update: #40581: push down - DNU

2015-04-01 Thread stepharo
Yes this is really strange because I tried to reproduce it in 4.0 and 4.0 plus pillar and I could not. However I was really not doing anything special. So we can probably close this issue but it was annoying. Stef Le 30/3/15 15:48, Ben Coman a écrit : I also cannot reproduce this. In

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoV30.sources in Pharo 4.0 download

2015-04-01 Thread Max Leske
On 01 Apr 2015, at 22:12, Dmitri Zagidulin dmi...@zagidulin.net wrote: I noticed that the Pharo 4.0 full distribution zip file off of Pharo.org/download contains PharoV30.sources (and not, say, PharoV40.sources). This is true for all 3 platforms: -

Re: [Pharo-dev] Enhancing the AST API

2015-04-01 Thread stepharo
Well, I'm allways under the assumption that an instance variable is internal only and that, when querying an AST node, I should allways use its API (is that usually #startPosition and #stopPosition?). Me too The implication of my proposal is to also rename all the accessors so that the get

Re: [Pharo-dev] 14606 Really Important bug - Can't see some variables values while debugging closure

2015-04-01 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-04-01 18:56 GMT+02:00 Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com: Issue 14606 [1] is tagged Really Important where evaluating | t1 t2 t3 t4 t5 t6 | t1 := 1. t2 := 2. t3 := 3. t4 := 4. t5 := 5 . t6 := 6. [t5 := 50. t6 := 60. t3 + t4.