Re: [PLUG] DisplayPort

2009-11-18 Thread Daniel Johnson
> I'm scoping out thinkpads, with a specific interest in video out > technologies, and I've seen DisplayPort come up a few times.  So far, > all I've gleaned is that it's a smaller connector that can support > some forms of DRM to prevent displaying on unauthorized devices.  That > doesn't sound pa

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds for Nobel Peace Prize

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Robinson
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 21:52 -0800, Dr. Terry L. Bonner wrote: > > > > I further suggest that we take this to other Linux groups in the United > > States and elsewhere, in an effort to get their support - and in the > > hope that they too will push for Linus' nomination. > > > It's a good cause.

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds for Nobel Peace Prize

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Robinson
> As the main Linux user group associated with Linus' current residence, I > think it's appropriate for the effort to start here. > > Thanks, > Mike Linux is not a major invention, it is simply a free version of an existing one called Unix which had many flavors in the early 90s. I don't think Li

[PLUG] DisplayPort

2009-11-18 Thread Rogan Creswick
Forking another thread... On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Aaron Burt wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 05:04:46PM -0800, Eric House wrote: >> I'm looking closely at Dell's "Optiplex 760" system.  It's available >> in two smallish form-factors, one "ultra small" that'll fit on a >> bookshelf and a

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds for Nobel Peace Prize

2009-11-18 Thread Jameson Williams
While I am generally onboard with the idea that a prominent figure of the Open Source community might be recognized as a leader of world peace (or simply as having had a large humanitarian impact), it is unclear to me that Linus Torvalds is the correct recipient. Linux is a cool piece of software.

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds for Nobel Peace Prize

2009-11-18 Thread Dr. Terry L. Bonner
> > I further suggest that we take this to other Linux groups in the United > States and elsewhere, in an effort to get their support - and in the > hope that they too will push for Linus' nomination. > It's a good cause. And it is good for Linux too, IMO. -- Terry ___ "Life is t

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds for Nobel Peace Prize

2009-11-18 Thread MJang
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 09:08 -0800, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > Since the Nobel Peace Prize is often given to politicians, some > disagree with the choices. But it is often given to non-politicians > who create international efforts to change the world for the better. > > Look at the massive interna

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds...

2009-11-18 Thread Roderick A. Anderson
Bill Ensley wrote: > Isn't there some tenant of the mailing list rules that would allow for > withdrawing this user from > participating based on lack of topical discussion? if header :contains "From" "plu...@robinson-west.com" { discard; stop; } __

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds...

2009-11-18 Thread m0gely
Bill Ensley wrote: > Isn't there some tenant of the mailing list rules that would allow for > withdrawing this user from > participating based on lack of topical discussion? I agree. It's to the point where I wonder if it's on purpose. I'd filter him out but I would still get the replies. -- m

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds...

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Robinson
> Go Linus! and if he wins, seriously, will he deserve it any less that > Obama? (Not a flame war, > I actually like him. He has a very hard job to do) > > -Bill Ensley > www.bearprinting.com > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http:

Re: [PLUG] Do I want a quad-core Core-2 system?

2009-11-18 Thread m0gely
Eric House wrote: > I'm shopping for my first new desktop in five years and hoping to have > it for as long. My desk area is tiny (converted closet) so I'm > looking at smaller and quieter systems. (But still mainstream: I've > been a bit disappointed with the stability of VIA-based systems so >

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds...

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Robinson
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 20:52 -0800, Mark Turner wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Michael Robinson > wrote: > > has contributed nothing to world peace. > > > > He does not deserve a nobel peace prize. > > > If anything, Linus may have created a boost for atheism which > > threatens world

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds...

2009-11-18 Thread Dr. Terry L. Bonner
> > World peace comes from God where Linus if I am not mistaken > is an atheist. Why is it that every bloody adult discussion these days invariably devolves in some kind of banal religious harangue? It's unnecessary and uncivil. And, ironically, it does not foster peace in the community. --

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds...

2009-11-18 Thread Bill Ensley
> Where else would I talk about Linus and the nobel peace price other > than here? I should point out that I wasn't the first person to bring > this topic up, I'm probably only the first person to say that he > doesn't deserve one. And it's God Bill, not god. Just because you > have no respect

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds...

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Robinson
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 20:36 -0800, Nye Walker wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Michael Robinson > wrote: > > > If anything, Linus may have created a boost for atheism which > > threatens world peace. Without God, Man has no solid reason > > to respect himself or his neighbor. Without G

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds...

2009-11-18 Thread Mark Turner
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Michael Robinson wrote: > has contributed nothing to world peace. > > He does not deserve a nobel peace prize. > If anything, Linus may have created a boost for atheism which > threatens world peace.  Without God, Man has no solid reason > to respect himself or hi

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds...

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Robinson
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 20:20 -0800, Bill Ensley wrote: > > has contributed nothing to world peace. > > > > He does not deserve a nobel peace prize. > > > > World peace comes from God where Linus if I am not mistaken > > is an atheist. He is incapable of experiencing world peace. > > As far as Linu

Re: [PLUG] Top500 List, and SC09

2009-11-18 Thread Jameson Williams
Daniel, I'm sure it was nothing personal! There were only so many up for grabs. I was lucky to have a new Blackberry and hopped on the offer. -- Jameson On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Daniel Johnson wrote: > > I too would like to express my thanks to Michael Dexter and the Linux > Fund > >

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds...

2009-11-18 Thread Nye Walker
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Michael Robinson wrote: > If anything, Linus may have created a boost for atheism which > threatens world peace. Without God, Man has no solid reason > to respect himself or his neighbor. Without God, there is no > happiness and no peace. To an atheist, Man is j

Re: [PLUG] Top500 List, and SC09

2009-11-18 Thread Daniel Johnson
> I too would like to express my thanks to Michael Dexter and the Linux Fund > for my exhibition pass -- SC09 has been quite a treat, and I likely would > not have gone without their help! I never got a reply from them. :-( ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lis

Re: [PLUG] Top500 List, and SC09

2009-11-18 Thread Jameson Williams
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > BTW, SC09 is jawdropping awesome. Thanks to Michael Dexter > and the Linux Fund folks for the exhibitor guest badges. The > show fills the entire A-B-C-D-E exhibit area at the convention > center, as well as some of the hallway, and is us

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds...

2009-11-18 Thread Bill Ensley
> has contributed nothing to world peace. > > He does not deserve a nobel peace prize. > > World peace comes from God where Linus if I am not mistaken > is an atheist. He is incapable of experiencing world peace. > As far as Linux producing world peace, it's use is still > very limited in the wo

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds...

2009-11-18 Thread dcouch
So, um... Everyone feeling froggy tonight? I'm of the opinion that Linus deserves it much more than Glorious Leader of the People did. But then again, that has nothing to do with Linux either. --Original Message-- From: Michael Robinson Sender: plug-boun...@lists.pdxlinux.org To: plug@

Re: [PLUG] Do I want a quad-core Core-2 system?

2009-11-18 Thread Aaron Burt
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 05:04:46PM -0800, Eric House wrote: > I'm looking closely at Dell's "Optiplex 760" system. It's available > in two smallish form-factors, one "ultra small" that'll fit on a > bookshelf and a "small" that won't. But only the latter is available > with a core-2 *quad* proces

[PLUG] Linus Torvalds...

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Robinson
has contributed nothing to world peace. He does not deserve a nobel peace prize. World peace comes from God where Linus if I am not mistaken is an atheist. He is incapable of experiencing world peace. As far as Linux producing world peace, it's use is still very limited in the world. Microsoft

Re: [PLUG] Response to Mogerly's threats...

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Robinson
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 13:42 -0800, m0gely wrote: > Michael Robinson wrote: > > lots more stuff > > Just stop already. This is sad. Every single person here understands > this but you. You're welcome to post stuff that's related to Linux and > Unix here. Not gripe about why /you/ don't understand

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds for Nobel Peace Prize

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 07:25:12PM -0800, MJang wrote: > Here's a link to a list of people who may submit nominations for the > Nobel peace prize > > http://nobelpeaceprize.org/en_GB/nomination_committee/who-can-nominate/ > > Perhaps some of us know and can start by lobbying someone in one of th

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds for Nobel Peace Prize

2009-11-18 Thread MJang
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 09:08 -0800, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > Since the Nobel Peace Prize is often given to politicians, some > disagree with the choices. But it is often given to non-politicians > who create international efforts to change the world for the better. > snip > Look at the massive i

Re: [PLUG] Do I want a quad-core Core-2 system?

2009-11-18 Thread chris (fool) mccraw
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 17:04, Eric House wrote: > I'm shopping for my first new desktop in five years and hoping to have > it for as long.  My desk area is tiny (converted closet) so I'm > looking at smaller and quieter systems.  (But still mainstream: I've > been a bit disappointed with the stab

[PLUG] Do I want a quad-core Core-2 system?

2009-11-18 Thread Eric House
I'm shopping for my first new desktop in five years and hoping to have it for as long. My desk area is tiny (converted closet) so I'm looking at smaller and quieter systems. (But still mainstream: I've been a bit disappointed with the stability of VIA-based systems so want to stick with Intel or

Re: [PLUG] Column/Block Editing in Emacs

2009-11-18 Thread Rogan Creswick
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Rogan Creswick wrote: >>   I need to remove double quotes from a specific column for all 3200 lines >> in a file. I know that I can do a regex search and replace for the beginning >> of each line, but the quotes I need to remove are in the interior. It seems >> to

Re: [PLUG] Column/Block Editing in Emacs

2009-11-18 Thread Rogan Creswick
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: >   I thought that I had saved the instructions for this from several years > ago, but apparently I did not. > >   I need to remove double quotes from a specific column for all 3200 lines > in a file. I know that I can do a regex search and repl

[PLUG] Column/Block Editing in Emacs

2009-11-18 Thread Rich Shepard
I thought that I had saved the instructions for this from several years ago, but apparently I did not. I need to remove double quotes from a specific column for all 3200 lines in a file. I know that I can do a regex search and replace for the beginning of each line, but the quotes I need to

[PLUG] Supercomputing, Linux, and Longevity

2009-11-18 Thread Rich Shepard
This year is the 25th Anniversary of the Geographic Resources Analysis Support System (GRASS), the most powerful spatial analytical GIS software available. GRASS started life as the Ft. Hood Environmental Management System, written in C by the Army's Construction Engineering Research Lab (CE

Re: [PLUG] Linux Mint

2009-11-18 Thread dcouch
Had 7 on my laptop up until ubuntu 9.10 came out. It isn't half bad. I just figured it didn't really offer anything more than ubuntu already does one way or another. Its worth installing once and seeing if it suits your fancy. --Original Message-- From: Rob Saul Sender: plug-boun...@li

Re: [PLUG] Linux Mint

2009-11-18 Thread Rob Saul
Ronald Chmara wrote: > > In a drastic effort to try and get back on topic, anyone played with > Linux Mint? Is it basically just a shortcut to get more proprietary > drivers, with an Ubuntu base? Roger that. Worked well on an HP laptop I had a couple years ago. Upgrade from release to release wa

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds for Nobel Peace Prize

2009-11-18 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Rob Saul wrote: > Nah, Microsoft will just announce they have a Scandinavian country 'under > development', there by causing people to cease considering current > Scandinavian countries as viable. Some Microsoft jokes are as pointedly funny as many lawyer jokes. This fall

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds for Nobel Peace Prize / Linux Mint

2009-11-18 Thread Randy Stapilus
I have Mint on a desktop (recently dual-booted with windows) and Ubuntu on a recently-purchased Free Geek notebook, so I have been comparing them. From a user standpoint, apart from the visual (color and theme designs, which are largely adjustable anyway), and the as- advertised incorporatio

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds for Nobel Peace Prize

2009-11-18 Thread Ronald Chmara
When it turns out that their low-budget development of the country of Luxembourg isn't really technically "Scandinavian", they will simply redefine the term "Scandinavian". In a drastic effort to try and get back on topic, anyone played with Linux Mint? Is it basically just a shortcut to get more

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds for Nobel Peace Prize

2009-11-18 Thread Rob Saul
Tim Wescott wrote: > But then Bill Gates will try to buy Sweden. Nah, Microsoft will just announce they have a Scandinavian country 'under development', there by causing people to cease considering current Scandinavian countries as viable. > > > On Wed, November 18, 2009 9:08 am, Keith Lofstr

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds for Nobel Peace Prize

2009-11-18 Thread Tim Wescott
But then Bill Gates will try to buy Sweden. On Wed, November 18, 2009 9:08 am, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > Since the Nobel Peace Prize is often given to politicians, some > disagree with the choices. But it is often given to non-politicians > who create international efforts to change the world for

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds for Nobel Peace Prize

2009-11-18 Thread Keith Lofstrom
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > >Looking at SC09, it is almost like Microsoft doesn't exist. ALL the > >government servers represented there are variants of Linux. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:35:12PM -0800, Rich Shepard wrote: > Makes me wonder why they bought the biggest booth spac

Re: [PLUG] Why are PSU network services...

2009-11-18 Thread m0gely
Michael Robinson wrote: > lots more stuff Just stop already. This is sad. Every single person here understands this but you. You're welcome to post stuff that's related to Linux and Unix here. Not gripe about why /you/ don't understand why some university network isn't going to be available for

Re: [PLUG] Why are PSU network services...

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Robinson
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 10:04 -0800, Rob Saul wrote: > m0gely wrote: > > Michael Robinson wrote: > >> lots of stuff > > > > The bottom line here is you're unqualified to to make these statements. > > You don't know what you're talking about. At all. > > > > Not to mention the proper venue for th

Re: [PLUG] [PLUG-ANNOUNCE] [ANNOUNCEMENT] PLUG Advanced Topics November 19th, 2009 **NEW NIGHT and LOCATION**

2009-11-18 Thread Clint Johnson
I am saddened it will conflict with the "Ignite Portland" event. Now I must choose. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Alan wrote: > [We're back! Sorry for the downtime. Personal issues ate my brain.] > > We have a new location, a new night, and an old time. > > Michael Dexter is helping me keep

Re: [PLUG] Linux presentation tool

2009-11-18 Thread Aaron Burt
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 09:17:04AM -0800, Larry Brigman wrote: > I know there was a discussion about making presentations with Linux. > > I stumbled onto this for a remote presentation device. > http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/wiipresent/ Some features: * rumbles to indicate how much time you hav

Re: [PLUG] Why are PSU network services...

2009-11-18 Thread Rob Saul
m0gely wrote: > Michael Robinson wrote: >> lots of stuff > > The bottom line here is you're unqualified to to make these statements. > You don't know what you're talking about. At all. > Not to mention the proper venue for this sort of issue is the PSU Ombuds Office : http://www.ombuds.pdx.edu

Re: [PLUG] Linus Torvalds for Nobel Peace Prize

2009-11-18 Thread Dr. Terry L. Bonner
I think you make an excellent case. Tovalds or Mark Shuttleworth would make excellent choices for a Nobel laureate, IMO. Their contributions to humanity will endure long after most of today's major crises and concerns have crumbled into dust. -- Terry ___ "Life is tough; it's to

[PLUG] Linux presentation tool

2009-11-18 Thread Larry Brigman
I know there was a discussion about making presentations with Linux. I stumbled onto this for a remote presentation device. http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/wiipresent/ ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listin

[PLUG] Linus Torvalds for Nobel Peace Prize

2009-11-18 Thread Keith Lofstrom
Since the Nobel Peace Prize is often given to politicians, some disagree with the choices. But it is often given to non-politicians who create international efforts to change the world for the better. Look at the massive international efforts represented by SC09, and realize that much of it sta

Re: [PLUG] Why are PSU network services...

2009-11-18 Thread m0gely
Michael Robinson wrote: > lots of stuff The bottom line here is you're unqualified to to make these statements. You don't know what you're talking about. At all. -- m0gely ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailma

Re: [PLUG] What permits apache to write files?

2009-11-18 Thread Joe Pruett
> I probably have my apache server set up somewhat incorrectly for > one of my oldest websites. I run a lot of wikis on many websites, > and the wikis permit apache cgi clients to rewrite apache owned > wiki content under some circumstances. > > What is scary is that a couple of my static html fil

Re: [PLUG] What permits apache to write files?

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:10:44PM -0800, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > But in the interim (without sharing my httpd.conf stuff with all > and sundry) are there other ways (besides incorrectly configured > wikis) that apache can rewrite static content that incompetents > like myself should be aware of?

Re: [PLUG] Why are PSU network services...

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Robinson
On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 22:43 -0800, Aaron wrote: > Michael: > > This is off topic. > > For being a God fearing man you are pretty negative. Cheer up lado! As an > atheist I have to say: live and be happy already! and..who cares anyway? > So what if it's down...do some studying. Get a coffee.. W