Re: R: [OT] Proof that Evolutionism is a fairy tale

2007-04-05 Thread Helio W.
And a Pope that draws from Karl Marx on his writings... LOL On 4/5/07, Iames Pizzoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Besides, we have an ITALIAN Pope, ... > > Actually, he's GERMAN. Joseph Ratzinger is his secular name. And he > lives in Vatican State, being a separate entity from Italian

Re: [OT] skywalk

2007-04-05 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 05 April 2007 7:09 pm, Jean Laeremans wrote: > On 4/5/07, Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 05 April 2007 3:11 pm, Jean Laeremans wrote: > > > http://www.destinationgrandcanyon.com/skywalk.html > > > > > > Belgian engineers btw... > > > > Hi Jean! > > > > American

Re: [OT] Real Environmentalists

2007-04-05 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 05 April 2007 5:38 pm, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Hi Virgil! This is a transient area. People come, and leave if they are able. I got stuck here 25 years ago. You can't talk about things like this, they sue you, blacklist you, fire you. A 100% management town. > That’s why you spre

RE: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-05 Thread mrgmhale
SPs? SPs? Who needs those damned SPs? Seriously, good point. Gil > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen the Cook > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [NF] Postgre SQL > > > mrgmhale <> wr

RE: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-05 Thread Stephen the Cook
mrgmhale <> wrote: >> Is there a >> way to deliver it with an update CD, automate the setup, etc so the >> data could be converted - all with little or no user assistance? > > Gawd, I wish! If you are using VFP remote views, instead of direct > table hits, it may not be too hard to adapt to the n

RE: VFP Open SOurce Push

2007-04-05 Thread Stephen the Cook
Ted Roche <> wrote: > > I think you have a very distorted view of the community. I'm familiar > with a number of projects with _huge_ installed bases that locked > down on VFP 5 or 6. Not everyone salivates every time MS rings the > bell. It's not the salivate reaction. Instead it is being p

The Community is bigger then you think

2007-04-05 Thread Stephen Russell
Yesterday we were discussing the FP community. Today I am interviewing for another contract gig. The person in charge of the interview was a former member of our FPUG back before it closed down in 98/99/00??? He nor this job have anything to do with FP. It's a SQL Server DBA / tuner / reporter

[OT] Happy Easter!

2007-04-05 Thread William Sanders / EFG
Many of us are off on Friday. Happy Easter !!! Warmest Regards [Bill] -- William Sanders / efGroup {rmv the DOT BOB to reply} VFP Webhosting? You BET! -> http://efgroup.net/vfpwebhosting Failing dotNet Project? -> http://www.dotnetconversions.com ___

Re: [NF] Spamassassin

2007-04-05 Thread Michael Madigan
Hopefully this will cut down on spam. Graphics-based spam has the potential of really clogging up the Internet. --- Eugene Vital <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Madigan wrote: > > Wow, is it really slow? > > > Do you mean the scanning process? > > If so, no. From the client perspective

Re: [NF] Spamassassin

2007-04-05 Thread Eugene Vital
Michael Madigan wrote: > Wow, is it really slow? > Do you mean the scanning process? If so, no. From the client perspective it is transparent. > --- Eugene Vital <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> FYI >> >> Not sure if anyone is still using Linux on this list >> ;-) but if you >> are a

Re: [NF] Spamassassin

2007-04-05 Thread Michael Madigan
Wow, is it really slow? --- Eugene Vital <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > FYI > > Not sure if anyone is still using Linux on this list > ;-) but if you > are and you use Spamassassin for spam control there > is a nice little > OCR plugin that you can use with called FuzzyOCR > http://fuz

Re: [OT] Proof that Evolutionism is a fairy tale

2007-04-05 Thread Vince Teachout
Ed Leafe wrote: >> And why do they call it Good Friday when it's the day they killed >> Jesus? >> > Um, wasn't killing him a *good* thing? Without that, you guys would > be toast. I mean, isn't that what you believe makes it possible to be > "saved"? My guess is that Ed is being f

Re: [OT] Proof that Evolutionism is a fairy tale

2007-04-05 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 5, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: > And why do they call it Good Friday when it's the day they killed > Jesus? Um, wasn't killing him a *good* thing? Without that, you guys would be toast. I mean, isn't that what you believe makes it possible to be "saved"?

RE: [OT] Proof that Evolutionism is a fairy tale

2007-04-05 Thread Stephen the Cook
Wolfe, Stephen S YA-2 6 MDSS/SGSI <> wrote: > Interesting, so, I guess the sacrifice of Jesus has nothing to do > with it ... And why do they call it Good Friday when it's the day they killed Jesus? Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 "A good way to judge pe

RE: [OT] skywalk

2007-04-05 Thread Stephen the Cook
Jean Laeremans <> wrote: > On 4/5/07, Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thursday 05 April 2007 3:11 pm, Jean Laeremans wrote: >>> http://www.destinationgrandcanyon.com/skywalk.html >>> >>> Belgian engineers btw... >> >> Hi Jean! >> >> American sanitation engineers, hosing it off ever

[NF] Spamassassin

2007-04-05 Thread Eugene Vital
FYI Not sure if anyone is still using Linux on this list ;-) but if you are and you use Spamassassin for spam control there is a nice little OCR plugin that you can use with called FuzzyOCR http://fuzzyocr.own-hero.net/. Spamassassin is doing an excellent job of detecting spam but it wasn

Re: [OT] skywalk

2007-04-05 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 4/5/07, Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 05 April 2007 3:11 pm, Jean Laeremans wrote: > > http://www.destinationgrandcanyon.com/skywalk.html > > > > Belgian engineers btw... > > Hi Jean! > > American sanitation engineers, hosing it off every few minutes. No Mexicans availab

[OT] Democrats throw like girls

2007-04-05 Thread Michael Madigan
How would you like to have this limp-wristed guy as your mayor? http://youtube.com/watch?v=rx6zsub-neU --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to:

RE: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-05 Thread mrgmhale
> My understanding is that there is no licensing > restriction on sending it out to my clients. > Correct. No licensing to PostgreSQL from you or client. You can charge for your app, however (of course). Gil > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Beh

Re: VFP Open SOurce Push

2007-04-05 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
mrgmhale wrote: > In a similar way M$ is not going to fret about those VFPers who end up > moving to non-M$ solutions. They will try to capture all they can with > .Net, and milk what they can from those who remain "faithful" to M$. They > are not gaining as much off VFPers as compared to .NETer

Re: Sending mail from VFP w/o mailto

2007-04-05 Thread Chet Gardiner
What he said. I could probably dig up some code for using blat if you need it. Contact me offlist... Ted Roche wrote: > On 4/5/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > mailto: BAD, BLAT good. > > ActiveX BAAD, BLAT good. > > MAPI bad, SMTP (and BLAT) good. > > _

Re: [NF] WebEx and other online conferencing softwares

2007-04-05 Thread Chet Gardiner
Webex gets VERY EXPENSIVE VERY FAST. My old client was paying over $1500 /month for their WebEx -- the charges vary according to usage. Dave Crozier wrote: > Mike, > Funnily enough I had my first Webex seminar yesterday with a company called > Virtuozzo who are into Server Virtualisation technol

Re: [NF] WebEx and other online conferencing softwares

2007-04-05 Thread Chet Gardiner
GoToMeeting is better for what you're asking about -- or at least it was last year. It's cheaper than Webex (by a BUNCH) and actually worked better than Webex... Cheers; MB Software Solutions wrote: > My sales team is talking about using WebEx to hopefully drive sales by > doing online demo

Re: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-05 Thread KAM
My main interest is getting PostgreSQL installed and working on the user's computer. My understanding is that there is no licensing restriction on sending it out to my clients. As far as VFP access, VFP coding, etc, I have plenty of time to get that worked out. I just do not want my users to go

Re: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-05 Thread KAM
My main interest is getting PostgreSQL installed and working on the user's computer. My understanding is that there is no licensing restriction on sending it out to my clients. As far as VFP access, VFP coding, etc, I have plenty of time to get that worked out. I just do not want my users to go

Re: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-05 Thread KAM
My main interest is getting PostgreSQL installed and working on the user's computer. My understanding is that there is no licensing restriction on sending it out to my clients. As far as VFP access, VFP coding, etc, I have plenty of time to get that worked out. I just do not want my users to go

Re: [OT] Real Environmentalists

2007-04-05 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote: > On Friday 04 May 2007 1:56 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: >> Pete Theisen wrote: > >>> > My complaint is against the lack of decent pay and medical care for the workers that are nearer to the bottom of the pile. >>> Hi Krystine! >>> >>> The dirty little secret is that t

Re: [OT] skywalk

2007-04-05 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 05 April 2007 3:11 pm, Jean Laeremans wrote: > http://www.destinationgrandcanyon.com/skywalk.html > > Belgian engineers btw... Hi Jean! American sanitation engineers, hosing it off every few minutes. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ __

RE: [OT] Real Environmentalists

2007-04-05 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
That’s why you spread the word... Sooner or later people know about that person and they WON"T work for them That’s why I get so upset when I hear people keeping quiet about stuff like that. Virgil Bierschwale Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate (830) 329-6774 Cell (830) 864-4799 Fax (830) 86

Re: [OT] Real Environmentalists

2007-04-05 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 04 May 2007 1:56 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > Pete Theisen wrote: > > > >> My complaint is against the lack of decent pay and medical care for the > >> workers that are nearer to the bottom of the pile. > > > > Hi Krystine! > > > > The dirty little secret is that there has to be big lose

RE: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-05 Thread mrgmhale
> Is there a > way to deliver it with an update CD, automate the setup, etc so > the data could be converted - all with little or no user assistance? Gawd, I wish! If you are using VFP remote views, instead of direct table hits, it may not be too hard to adapt to the new back end, unless you have

RE: [NF] Those responsible for patching the patch have been sacked.

2007-04-05 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Thanks Ted, I've been having this problem since I redid my acer laptop... Was wondering why now ?? Virgil Bierschwale Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate (830) 329-6774 Cell (830) 864-4799 Fax (830) 864-4726 Home http://www.bierschwale.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailt

RE: [NF] what's in an operating system?

2007-04-05 Thread Hal Kaplan
=> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Kalweit =>  => Windows NT = real OS(code that talks directly to hardware => layer) Unix = real OS =>  => Versus Windows 3.1 which was just a GUI on top of DOS... => Still very, very weak, but not totally wrong considering it => was 1996... =>  Der

[NF] Those responsible for patching the patch have been sacked.

2007-04-05 Thread Ted Roche
Shades of Monty Python: Patch MS07-17 and MS07-08, patched on top of a Service Pack 2 patch of a Windows XP box, cause a bug. Is anyone surprised? "This problem may occur after you install security update 925902 (MS07-017) and security update 928843 (MS07-008). The Hhctrl.ocx file that is include

Re: Sending mail from VFP w/o mailto

2007-04-05 Thread Bob Lee
blat blat blat.. exe or dll they are all good. Bob Lee - Original Message - From: "Ted Roche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: Re: Sending mail from VFP w/o mailto > On 4/5/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

Re: [NF] what's in an operating system?

2007-04-05 Thread Derek Kalweit
> > Bill Gates: "And through Windows NT, you can see it throughout the > > design. In a weak sense, it is a form of Unix. " > "Weak" is the key word here. ;-) Windows NT = real OS(code that talks directly to hardware layer) Unix = real OS Versus Windows 3.1 which was just a GUI on top o

Re: [NF] Get in on the new class action suit!

2007-04-05 Thread Michael Madigan
A client of mine is being threatened with a class action suit. This is the perfect example of a "nuisance" suit. --- Vince Teachout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Madigan wrote: > > A wonderful way for scumbag lawyers to get rich. > I > > bet the 10,000 plaintifs will receive coupons f

[OT] skywalk

2007-04-05 Thread Jean Laeremans
http://www.destinationgrandcanyon.com/skywalk.html Belgian engineers btw... A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinf

Re: Sending mail from VFP w/o mailto

2007-04-05 Thread ken.com
I agree. We use blat.exe (works similar to your code) and I am sure some of our messages are more than 1024 bytes. - Original Message - From: "Ed Leafe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ProFox Email List" Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: Re: Sending mail from VFP w/o mailto > Do

Re: Sending mail from VFP w/o mailto

2007-04-05 Thread Ted Roche
On 4/5/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: mailto: BAD, BLAT good. ActiveX BAAD, BLAT good. MAPI bad, SMTP (and BLAT) good. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com S

Re: VFP Open SOurce Push

2007-04-05 Thread Ted Roche
On 4/4/07, Stephen the Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you and Ted still part of the Fox community today? I still cash the royalty checks ;) 40-60% of my business is still in FoxPro, varying by demand. I still answer questions here, mostly with more "legacy knowledge" -- I stopped pushing

Re: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-05 Thread ken.com
I would like to replace the present vfp9 dbf/dbc tables with postgresql. The problem is that we have thousands of installations in all states - all in healthcare offices/clinics where most of the people know almost nothing about installing software, hardware, etc. For us to do them one at a time

[OT] Scary Stuff

2007-04-05 Thread Michael Madigan
http://www.greetingcards.com/pickup?ID=A222-A256-JK3H-YCR Right Wing, Conservative and Republican Gear! http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Thoroughbred Horse Racing Group http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/mikes_horse_racing/ ___ Post Messages t

Re: [OT] Real Environmentalists

2007-04-05 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote: > On Thursday 05 April 2007 11:09 am, Kristyne McDaniel wrote: > > >>> trying to make us like the USSR, that economic bastion of >>> pride, oh wait, it >>> folded didn't it >> I work with 4 Russian programmers these days. Obviously there was a draw >> for them to come here

RE: [NF] what's in an operating system?

2007-04-05 Thread Hal Kaplan
=> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Roche =>  => Bill Gates: "And through Windows NT, you can see it => throughout the design. In a weak sense, it is a form of Unix. " =>  => http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/billg/speeches/1996/u => expo.aspx =>  Well, what do you expect from som

RE: [OT] Edwards Cashing In On Wife's Cancer

2007-04-05 Thread Michael Madigan
She's doing it to be the good wife, he's doing it because he is a narcissist. He should be with his wife and kids, seeing the world, spending her last days together. To use her impending death as a fundraising campaign is sick. --- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you ever

RE: [OT] Edwards Cashing In On Wife's Cancer

2007-04-05 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Did you ever think that there is a very good chance that she knows it is important to him and she told him to keep on ?? Sometimes you have to do what you believe in, not what is best for you Virgil Bierschwale Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate (830) 329-6774 Cell (830) 864-4799 Fax (830) 864-472

[OT] Edwards Cashing In On Wife's Cancer

2007-04-05 Thread Michael Madigan
Anybody that continues the campaign when his wife is dying is a slime bag. http://www.nypost.com/seven/04052007/news/nationalnews/edwards_cashing_in_on_wifes_cancer_nationalnews_maggie_haberman.htm Right Wing, Conservative and Republican Gear! http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Thoroughbred

Re: Sending mail from VFP w/o mailto

2007-04-05 Thread Justin Darnell
Whil, We use an ActiveX control from Chilkat Software http://www.chilkatsoft.com/. Specifically, we use it for some software that keeps a mailing list for a store, as well as for error reporting. We also use the FTP and ZIP ActiveXes for various other things. I can't say enough for how well thi

Re: [OT] Elizabeth Edwards: Right Wing Conspiracy Theories

2007-04-05 Thread Michael Madigan
You could send a "get well" message to Mrs. Edwards on the Edwards Campaign site. That also put you on the campaign list. Now well-wishers are received solicitations for donations to the campaign. Great way to build a list. --- Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know it won't

Re: [OT] Real Environmentalists

2007-04-05 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 05 April 2007 11:09 am, Kristyne McDaniel wrote: > > trying to make us like the USSR, that economic bastion of > > pride, oh wait, it > > folded didn't it > > I work with 4 Russian programmers these days. Obviously there was a draw > for them to come here rather than stay where th

Re: [OT] Proof that Evolutionism is a fairy tale

2007-04-05 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote: > On Thursday 05 April 2007 8:15 am, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-2 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: >> > > >>> You're still in time. Go get properly baptized! You are in danger of >>> going to Hell! >>> >>> Pax Boviscum. >> Interesting, so, I guess the sacrifice of Jesus has nothing to do with >>

Re: [OT] Proof that Evolutionism is a fairy tale

2007-04-05 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 05 April 2007 9:35 am, Ed Leafe wrote: > On Apr 5, 2007, at 8:15 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-2 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: > > Interesting, so, I guess the sacrifice of Jesus has nothing to do with > > it ... > > Hey, I'd be willing to "sacrifice" my life savings to you If I knew > I'd get it

Re: Sending mail from VFP w/o mailto

2007-04-05 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 5, 2007, at 12:52 PM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: > Door #3: Incorporate a third party utility such as BLAT (which I've > seen > talked about here oodles) or ipstuff. BLAT! Just do it. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com _

Re: [OT] Proof that Evolutionism is a fairy tale

2007-04-05 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 05 April 2007 8:15 am, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-2 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: > > > You're still in time. Go get properly baptized! You are in danger of > > going to Hell! > > > > Pax Boviscum. > > Interesting, so, I guess the sacrifice of Jesus has nothing to do with > it ... Hi Stephen! I thin

Re: [OT] Real Environmentalists

2007-04-05 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 05 April 2007 7:17 am, john harvey wrote: > That's probably true most places, but so what. This is one of the great > things about our country, you are free to work as hard as you like, and > reap the benefits, or fail miserably! Hi John! I am a socialist in this respect: People who w

RE: VFP Open SOurce Push

2007-04-05 Thread Tracy Pearson
> I've not found a way to properly fix the border issue with child windows in top > level forms. I take this back. cParent = WPARENT(THIS.Name) IF EMPTY(cParent) ACTIVATE WINDOW (THIS.Name) IN SCREEN ELSE ACTIVATE WINDOW (THIS.Name) IN WINDOW (cParent) ENDIF As long as t

RE: VFP Open SOurce Push

2007-04-05 Thread Tracy Pearson
I have not seen the display issues using Vista Basic theme. You lose the fancy Areo window changes, sidebar, and other eye-candy things that users going to Vista are wanting. Turning themes off for dropdowns, may work, I've not tried to research that one. I know it happens, and it is reported to M

Sending mail from VFP w/o mailto

2007-04-05 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
Hi folks, I have inherited (ahem...) an app that includes a rudimentary email function in one of its modules. It uses the 'mailto' and shellexecute functions in Windows, primarily because the app used to be x-plat and thus couldn't rely on Windows-only solutions. The Windows part of the call l

Re: [NF] Vista stories that seem odd

2007-04-05 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Michael Madigan wrote: > Yep. If Microsoft is guilty of allowing criminals to > attack them, then banks are guilty of allowing bank > robbers to attack them. > > I wonder how much of your hard earned money would you put in the vaults of a bank that has been robbed over and over. In real life I

Re: R: [OT] Proof that Evolutionism is a fairy tale

2007-04-05 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Iames Pizzoli wrote: >> Besides, we have an ITALIAN Pope, ... > > Actually, he's GERMAN. Joseph Ratzinger is his secular name. And he > lives in Vatican State, being a separate entity from Italian Republic (or so > it should be, despite some clerical zealots among our congressmen...). > Ia

RE: [NF] WebEx and other online conferencing softwares

2007-04-05 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I took a couple of seminars using webex. Seemed to work good although when I checked on the pricing it seemed expensive.. Virgil Bierschwale Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate (830) 329-6774 Cell (830) 864-4799 Fax (830) 864-4726 Home http://www.bierschwale.com -Original Message- From: [E

R: [OT] Proof that Evolutionism is a fairy tale

2007-04-05 Thread Iames Pizzoli
> Besides, we have an ITALIAN Pope, ... Actually, he's GERMAN. Joseph Ratzinger is his secular name. And he lives in Vatican State, being a separate entity from Italian Republic (or so it should be, despite some clerical zealots among our congressmen...). > >> Pax Boviscum. Pax V

Re: [NF] Get in on the new class action suit!

2007-04-05 Thread Vince Teachout
Michael Madigan wrote: > A wonderful way for scumbag lawyers to get rich. I > bet the 10,000 plaintifs will receive coupons for > $10.00 off Vista, and the lawyers will get a nice > house. Truer words were never spoke. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@lea

Re: [OT] Can we fool them with this?

2007-04-05 Thread Vince Teachout
Adam Buckland wrote: > Sure they do... The embassy is well hidden, nothing to make it visible apart > from the 20 foot high eagle statue, the marine detachment > No, no, they don't. I know because I hacked Google's mapping database and swapped the Embassy location with the location of Mi.

RE: [NF] WebEx and other online conferencing softwares

2007-04-05 Thread Dave Crozier
Andy, They have just released a new version which addresses a few issues. Might be worth another look. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Davies Sent: 05 April 2007 16:35 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] WebEx and oth

Re: [OT] Real Environmentalists

2007-04-05 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
john harvey wrote: > That's probably true most places, but so what. This is one of the great > things about our country, you are free to work as hard as you like, and reap > the benefits, or fail miserably! At least that's been true up to this point. > The way things are going, the socialists in th

RE: [NF] WebEx and other online conferencing softwares

2007-04-05 Thread mrgmhale
Dave, thanks for the Heads Up. I will look into CrossLoop. It is always nice to have alternatives, eh? Gil > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Crozier > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:27 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [

RE: [NF] WebEx and other online conferencing softwares

2007-04-05 Thread Andy Davies
> www.crossloop.com ... > It works through firewalls etc no problem and it is free. doesn't work thru our firewall / proxy server / vpn so check it out before using it in commercial setups Andrew Davies  MBCS CITP   - AndyD    8-)# ***

RE: [NF] WebEx and other online conferencing softwares

2007-04-05 Thread Dave Crozier
Gil, Just a point, I did mention it a while back but take a look at Crossloop www.crossloop.com which is an integrated VNC with added VPN automatically. It works through firewalls etc no problem and it is free. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

RE: [NF] what's in an operating system?

2007-04-05 Thread mrgmhale
Well deserved cheap shot ... Gil > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Leafe > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 10:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [NF] what's in an operating system? > > > On Apr 5, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Ted Roche

RE: [NF] WebEx and other online conferencing softwares

2007-04-05 Thread mrgmhale
I have hosted several WebEx sessions for prospects over the years. It works well. I believe LogMeIn Pro has a similar feature, but the free LogMeIn has some restrictions that would not make it practical for use in the manner you describe (IMHO). For remote control of a machine behind a firewall

RE: VFP Open SOurce Push

2007-04-05 Thread Andy Davies
iirc vfp9 had problems with XP themes - does set themes off sort it? Andrew Davies  MBCS CITP   - AndyD    8-)# "Tracy Pearson"

Re: [NF] WebEx and other online conferencing softwares

2007-04-05 Thread Malcolm Greene
Mike, Gatherplace turned out to be disappointing but it may have improved since I last looked. I really wanted to like this product - it has a lot of features not found elsewhere and the cost is a reasonable $29/month. My current product of choice is GotoMeeting which works, but its price at $50/

RE: [NF] WebEx and other online conferencing softwares

2007-04-05 Thread Jeff Johnson
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 7:57 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [NF] WebEx and other online conferencing softwares > > My sales team is talking about using WebEx to hop

[NF] WebEx and other online conferencing softwares

2007-04-05 Thread Dave Crozier
Mike, Funnily enough I had my first Webex seminar yesterday with a company called Virtuozzo who are into Server Virtualisation technology - but that is another subject. I was very surprised at how good it was. We had 20 people in the conference and also a telephone link. During the presentation yo

RE: [OT] Real Environmentalists

2007-04-05 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
John, > That's probably true most places, but so what. This is one of > the great > things about our country, you are free to work as hard as you > like, and reap > the benefits, or fail miserably! At least that's been true up > to this point. > The way things are going, the socialists in this

RE: [OT] Real Environmentalists

2007-04-05 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
John, > Why do you need a general contractor? Why not just deal with the subs > yourself? The bank is insisting on a general contractor. The one we are leaning toward right now has his trade licenses in cabinetry and finish carpentry. Since that's the stage we're in and we lost both those subs wh

[NF] WebEx and other online conferencing softwares

2007-04-05 Thread MB Software Solutions
My sales team is talking about using WebEx to hopefully drive sales by doing online demos for potential clients. I was wondering if others had comments (positive or negative) on WebEx, as well as alternative ideas to WebEx. I looked in the ProFox archives, and Chet commented on LogMeIn, but th

Re: [NF] what's in an operating system?

2007-04-05 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 5, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Ted Roche wrote: > Bill Gates: "And through Windows NT, you can see it throughout the > design. In a weak sense, it is a form of Unix. " "Weak" is the key word here. ;-) -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com __

[NF] Have a good break

2007-04-05 Thread Michael Hawksworth
I'm for home so... "Have a good Easter and don't eat too much chocolate!" -- Regards Michael. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

RE: VFP Open SOurce Push

2007-04-05 Thread Tracy Pearson
It's still in CTP, I am not willing to send this to a client. VFP 6, 7, 8 and 9 all have this problem in the Vista Areo theme. See Rick Strahl's blog on the subject: http://west-wind.com/wconnect/weblog/ShowEntry.blog?id=597 Tracy -Original Message- From: MB Software Solutions Sent: Wed

Re: [NF] what's in an operating system?

2007-04-05 Thread Ted Roche
On 4/5/07, Andy Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hence the question - is XP just a few extra eye-candy bits added to Win2k? > - If not where has Win2k been hiding? (there is only one disk partition, > also if I move files e.g. to C:\ when in Win2k the changes are still there > in XP. > > And if

Re: [NF] what's in an operating system?

2007-04-05 Thread Alan Bourke
On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 13:52:31 +0100, "Andy Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hence the question - is XP just a few extra eye-candy bits added to > Win2k? Well, NT4, 2000 and XP all essentially use the same kernel, so at a low level they would be fairly similar. Check your c:\boot.ini -- Alan

[OT] Elizabeth Edwards: Right Wing Conspiracy Theories

2007-04-05 Thread Ed Leafe
You know it won't be long... http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0714,sutton,76264,9.html -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [OT] Proof that Evolutionism is a fairy tale

2007-04-05 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 5, 2007, at 8:15 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-2 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: > Interesting, so, I guess the sacrifice of Jesus has nothing to do with > it ... Hey, I'd be willing to "sacrifice" my life savings to you If I knew I'd get it back in a day and a half. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.co

Re: [OT] Grand Unified Theory of the day

2007-04-05 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 5, 2007, at 4:14 AM, Adam Buckland wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/39eu5n I'll drink to that! -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman

RE: VFP Open SOurce Push

2007-04-05 Thread mrgmhale
I have seen a similar pattern from 1997 or so. There was a company, COIN Dealership System, that had acquired Convergent Dealership Systems (minnow swallowing a whale deal, never should have been allowed). COIN ran into financial trouble almost immediately. Reynolds & Reynolds ended up buying CO

RE: [NF] Postgre SQL

2007-04-05 Thread mrgmhale
> FINALLY got around to installing PostgreSQL, after putting it off forever. > > I LIKE! > "Excellent! Soon we will have vanquished all foes of Open Source RDMS solutions with PostgreSQL..." (lifted in a general sense from the Kilrathi commander in the Wing Commander II game ). I really am looki

RE: [NF] what's in an operating system?

2007-04-05 Thread Dave Crozier
Andy, I meant on Win2K not NT - as a matter of fact it is also true of NT - sorry. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: 05 April 2007 14:13 To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] what's in an operating system? Andy, On NT

RE: [NF] what's in an operating system?

2007-04-05 Thread Dave Crozier
Andy, On NT the Ops system will be in the folder c:\WINNT and in XP in c:\Windows Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Davies Sent: 05 April 2007 13:53 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] what's in an operating system? I hav

Re: [0T] Car dent removal

2007-04-05 Thread Andy Davies
Is that for real? anyone tried it? I don't know if you can get those CO2 cans in UK - but I've got a fire extinguisher somewhere... Andrew Davies  MBCS CITP   - AndyD    8-)# ** This email and any files transmitted with it

[NF] what's in an operating system?

2007-04-05 Thread Andy Davies
I have an old Thinkpad that originally came with Win95. At some point I did a clean install of Win2k on it. Later I inadvisedly did an upgrade to WinXP. At bootup it still offers 2000 or XP - out of curiosity I just selected 2000 instead of the default XP: it came up OK (one error message about a

RE: [OT] Real Environmentalists

2007-04-05 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I only caught portions of what has happened because I was without a computer for the last 90 days or so, but I caught enough.. Hope it all comes together for you. Seems like the thing to do would be to get your mortgage company to play hardball with the vendors, in other words, no completeee, no p

Re: passing parms to a modal form

2007-04-05 Thread Rafael Copquin
As others said, the load event fires first and even before that, the DE instantiates first. Here is a trick I use if I need to pass cursors,objects and properties to a form with a private data session: In the calling event of the first form I create an XML cursor thus: local oXML,cXML select m

RE: [OT] Proof that Evolutionism is a fairy tale

2007-04-05 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-2 6 MDSS/SGSI
> But I guess you are protestant. So according to MY book you'll go to hell. > You have not been properly baptized by a priest ordained by the Pope, so > your baptism is null (if you had one, I know nothing about these weird > protestant cults of yours). No matter what you do you'll go to hell.

Re: passing parms to a modal form

2007-04-05 Thread Andy Davies
Brian Abbott said "Is Form.BindControls any help?" thanks - I didn't know about that new property and it looks useful - but not I think in the present case: the called form contains a subclass of the picker class, which uses the field names of the current cursor to build its picklist. Andrew Davi

RE: PDF to DBF

2007-04-05 Thread Dave Crozier
Paul & John, I forgot to add that the non professional version of Monarch does just that i.e it reads the PDF file as a text file so it is still possible to import/export as DBF as long as the document "table" format of the data is regular. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PRO

[0T] Car dent removal

2007-04-05 Thread Jean Laeremans
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/501379/remove_car_dent_with_airduster/ A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox

RE: VFP Open SOurce Push

2007-04-05 Thread Stephen the Cook
Jeff Johnson <> wrote: >> Stephen Russell >> DBA / .Net Developer >> > > You are part of this community, Stephen. Since FoxBase+ Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 "A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who can do them absolutely

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