Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-28 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Pete Theisen petethei...@verizon.net wrote: Perhaps if you live in a dictatorship such as Australia or anywhere in the UK, but we have freedom of the press here. Thus, underwear pictures per se are not banned. It is tasteless, however. A bare breast otoh

RE: VFP9 - Closeble

2009-01-28 Thread Kent Belan
I ran into a very similar problem with the red X with disable. put thisform.closeable = .t. in your refresh method. HTH, Kent Scenario: Brand new app It has 1 x SCX file which is 2 - As Top-level Form (This is the Main form) and 10 x SCX's as 1 -In top level form I want the Main form to

RE: Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-28 Thread David Smith
I view this sort of legislation as pandering to the fear-crowd. I can forgive the representative for not realizing things like a camera tone can be turned off via hacks in about 2 seconds, but I have a hard time understanding why someone in his office didn't mention to him that there are more

RE: [NF] For my C# friends who miss With End With.

2009-01-28 Thread Dave Crozier
Stephen, At lastmanna from heaven! I've been waiting for this since I first got into C# but I haven't had time to check out the new version. Well spotted! Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell

Re: [OT] Let the good times roll...

2009-01-28 Thread Helio Wakasugui
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Bob Calco bobca...@tampabay.rr.comwrote: I do have a lot of trouble with people who preach ethics and competence on the one hand, but work with terrorists, religious charlatans, America-bashers and political fixers, on the other. Like any conservative

Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Helio Wakasugui
The biblical god is certainly a monster. HW On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI stephen.wo...@macdill.af.mil wrote: Good post Steve... v/r //SIGNED// Stephen S. Wolfe, YA2, DAF 6th MDG Data Services Manager 6th MDG Information System Security

[NF] Flatten a pdf

2009-01-28 Thread Graham Brown
Hi all I have approx 2000 pdfs containing technical drawings originally produced with either autocad or solidworks. Each pdf has at least 10 seperate views where each view is one small part of the drawing zoomed. In Windows Explorer if I right click the pdf and print I just get one of the

Start VFP9 on Main monitor

2009-01-28 Thread Kent Belan
Hello, How can I get VFP9 to start on my main monitor ? It was working fine until the other day I moved VFP to my second monitor. Now everytime I start VFP it starts on my second monitor. I need to figure out how to make VFP start on my main monitor. Thanks, Kent

[NF] FreeNAS was SCSI drives and VFP data tables

2009-01-28 Thread KAM.covad
I am interested in your experience with the server and sata drives. Seagate has new firmware for their 1.5TB drives (5 year warrantee) that supposedly fixes the problems they had - they would 'go to sleep' for 30 seconds now and then. I am considering building a RAID5 NAS using FreeNAS to

RE: VFP9 - Closeble

2009-01-28 Thread Tracy Pearson
I vaguely recall a scenario of Top Level opens a Modal which opens another Modal causing the Top Level Closable to do this. I think the work around was to set it .F. the back to .T.. I haven't experienced myself so I'm a bit fuzzy about the details. Tracy -Original Message- From: Sytze

RE: Start VFP9 on Main monitor

2009-01-28 Thread Tracy Pearson
Isn't that saved in the FoxUser table? My startup.prg called from the config.fpw I use sets _VFP.Left/Top to 0 each time. Tracy -Original Message- From: Kent Belan Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:03 AM Hello, How can I get VFP9 to start on my main monitor ? It was working fine

[OT] For Many Economists, Stimulus Falls Flat

2009-01-28 Thread Bob Calco
http://tinyurl.com/c5n65h - - - (CBS) An unusual aspect of the recent debate in Washington is the lengths that supporters have gone to marginalize anyone who questions the so-called stimulus plan. Robert Reich, Bill Clinton's labor secretary and member of President Obama's transition team,

RE: Start VFP9 on Main monitor

2009-01-28 Thread Kent Belan
Hello Tracy, Thanks, I changed my config.fpw to add _VFP.Left = 0 _VFP.Top = 0 and now VFP is opening up on the main monitor. Life is good once again, Thanks for your help, Kent Isn't that saved in the FoxUser table? My startup.prg called from the config.fpw I use sets _VFP.Left/Top to

Re: VFP9 - Closeble

2009-01-28 Thread Sytze de Boer
Hi Kent Thanks for your message I have this not only in the Refresh method, but also in the Gotfocus method It still loses the Closable status and the bix X becomes disabled. I'm hoping some other guru pops in here ... S On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Kent Belan kbe...@mchsi.com

Re: [OT] Vatican Official accuses Messiah of Arrogance.

2009-01-28 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
On Sat, January 24, 2009 7:27 pm, Michael Madigan wrote: Gee, I thought he wanted to get along with European countries. http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5igKGopxWlT9SgXvlsDg_2z KcNlrw I must be reading/interpreting this wrong: so why are U.S. funds being sent overseas to

Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Nicholas Geti
Another example of what I have been talking about. Every criticism is turned back on the person making it in order to justify the original problem. Pathetic. Ricardo, you have some real psychological problems. - Original Message - From: Ricardo Aráoz ricar...@gmail.com To: ProFox

Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) NewYork

2009-01-28 Thread Nicholas Geti
Wha? 50,000 deaths per year? - Original Message - From: Pete Theisen petethei...@verizon.net To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) NewYork Geoff Flight wrote: Like

Re: SCSI drives and VFP data tables

2009-01-28 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com wrote: Doublespace created double the corruption. Everytime a client doublespaced his drive I wanted to kill him. * I remember Stacker??? I think that was the name. --

RE: SCSI drives and VFP data tables

2009-01-28 Thread Tracy Pearson
Same function, different product. Doublespace shipped with MS Dos. Stacker as an add on product. -Original Message- From: Stephen Russell Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:39 AM On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com wrote: Doublespace created double

RE: Start VFP9 on Main monitor

2009-01-28 Thread Tracy Pearson
You're welcome. -Original Message- From: Kent Belan Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:21 AM Hello Tracy, Thanks, I changed my config.fpw to add _VFP.Left = 0 _VFP.Top = 0 and now VFP is opening up on the main monitor. Life is good once again, Thanks for your help, Kent

Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-28 Thread Nicholas Geti
I thought you did not like them. One post long ago chided Americans for obsessing about them but in your country there is no interest. - Original Message - From: Jean Laeremans laeremans.jeanma...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:30 AM

Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-28 Thread Nicholas Geti
I am all for banning fun in Kangaroo Country. - Original Message - From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:51 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York REAL

Re: [NF] For my C# friends who miss With End With.

2009-01-28 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk wrote: Stephen, At lastmanna from heaven! I've been waiting for this since I first got into C# but I haven't had time to check out the new version. Well spotted! Article says that it

RE: [NF] For my C# friends who miss With End With.

2009-01-28 Thread Christof Wollenhaupt
Hi Stephen, Article says that it works in 2.0 but not on mine. Been using this for a while in my 2.0 code. It works with .NET 2.0 as the target platform, but requires C# 3.0 (i.e. VS.NET 2008) since it's a compiler feature. Fortunately, a lot of VS 2008 features are in fact compiler features.

Re: Start VFP9 on Main monitor

2009-01-28 Thread Sytze de Boer
Tracey, you're on a roll Do you want to try me again with my closable problem ? Sytze On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Tracy Pearson tr...@powerchurch.com wrote: You're welcome. -Original Message- From: Kent Belan Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:21 AM Hello Tracy, Thanks,

RE: SCSI drives and VFP data tables

2009-01-28 Thread Gil Hale
I believe they ended up morphing into the current day Diskkeeper (Diskeeper?) organization. Gil -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]on Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:39 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com

[NF] Linux Laptop

2009-01-28 Thread Jeff Johnson
Pretty good deal in my opinion. The discussion says eMachines get pretty good reviews. I already have a Linux laptop otherwise... eMachines 2GHz Widescreen Notebook with Linux $299.99 + $5 shipping http://www.woot.com/ -- Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax

Re: [OT] Economic Stimulus? Feds want your medical records

2009-01-28 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Bob Calco bobca...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: http://tinyurl.com/cjuloq - - - A little-discussed provision in President Obama's economic stimulus plan would demand that every American submit to a government program for electronic medical records without a choice

Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Helio Wakasugui helio.wakasu...@gmail.com wrote: The biblical god is certainly a monster. -- The New Testament is very different from the Old Testament version. So The Lord AK after kids has a different philosophy much like the rest of us who

Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Helio Wakasugui helio.wakasu...@gmail.com wrote: The biblical god is certainly a monster. - Today's reading proves my point I think: Wednesday (1/28): Those who hear the word and accept it, bear fruit a hundredfold

Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: The New Testament is very different from the Old Testament version. So The Lord AK after kids has a different philosophy much like the rest of us who changed in our own AK state. So he was immature? I.e., Imperfect? Or was he

Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Helio Wakasugui
I thought God was perfect. HW On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Helio Wakasugui helio.wakasu...@gmail.com wrote: The biblical god is certainly a monster. -- The New Testament is very

RE: VFP9 - Closeble

2009-01-28 Thread Tracy Pearson
Sytze, I tested this code and it doesn't have the problem. You might be getting a dangling reference leaving one of the forms open, or a data session being changed in an object that isn't going back correctly. I did notice without setting the closable property, it was possible to close the top

Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote: On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: The New Testament is very different from the Old Testament version. So The Lord AK after kids has a different philosophy much like the rest of us who changed in our own AK

Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Helio Wakasugui helio.wakasu...@gmail.com wrote: I thought God was perfect. Perfection is relative. It is also in the eyes of the beholder. I think you are right as well. My saying is God is Good. and the reply

RE: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Bob Calco
-Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:09 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at

RE: : [NF] Linux Laptop

2009-01-28 Thread David Boatright
Subject: [NF] Linux Laptop To: profoxt...@leafe.com Message-ID: 49807ff0.10...@san-dc.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jim Johnson Pretty good deal in my opinion. The discussion says eMachines get pretty good reviews. I already have a Linux laptop otherwise... eMachines 2GHz

Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Helio Wakasugui
http://memeparty.com/i/a02bdfd4fb4c81e1420b81dbd1ab4556.jpg On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Bob Calco bobca...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Wednesday, January 28,

Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Michael Madigan
It was sad to see George become a bitter old Atheist in later years. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Ken Kixmoeller/fh foxh...@information-architecture.com wrote: From: Ken

Re: : [NF] Linux Laptop

2009-01-28 Thread Jeff Johnson
Woot says right in their description to install Ubuntu when you get it. Seems I've seen people on the list looking for something like this, so I put it up there. May not be your cup of tea. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Phoenix Python User Group

Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Michael Madigan
You may want to soften your stance against God being that we're entering the End of Days. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Helio Wakasugui helio.wakasu...@gmail.com wrote: From:

RE: : [NF] Linux Laptop

2009-01-28 Thread Alan Bourke
Not bad at all, even includes an integrated webcam. Put Ubuntu and Skype on it and give it to your granny for video calls to the grandkids, for example. -- Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

Re: : [NF] Linux Laptop

2009-01-28 Thread Kevin Cully
I just got back from a trip with my Ubuntu Dell Mini 9. I used the video call with Skype to call my wife when she had her computer on, and called the land line when she didn't. Worked nice with hotels WIFI. I figure it's the 21st century and we're just getting video phones and flying cars.

Re: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-28 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Nicholas Geti wrote: I thought you did not like them. One post long ago chided Americans for obsessing about them but in your country there is no interest. Big difference between obsessing and liking. - Original Message - From: Jean Laeremans laeremans.jeanma...@gmail.com To:

Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Bob Calco wrote: -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:09 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro On Wed,

RE: [OT] For Many Economists, Stimulus Falls Flat

2009-01-28 Thread Geoff Flight
economists remain divided There's something new! Whenever there is a piece of economic news you can be sure that you can get 10 different interpretations and 15 different opinions all pointing in opposite directions. Economics is an art - not a science. -Original Message- From:

RE: [OT] Stupid law of the year goes to congressman Peter King (R) New York

2009-01-28 Thread Geoff Flight
Erg... my typing skills barely approach third-rate. I especially like my ability to mistype a key word eg fun instead of gun. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas Geti Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 2:16 AM To: ProFox

RE: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Geoff Flight
There a a number or aspects of our physical world which millennia ago were contradictory and unexplainable - 'a mystery' until science explained it. The terms 'contradictory and absurd' are often nothing more than 'we don't understand it at all'. At the subatomic level many of the laws of physics

RE: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Michael Madigan
There is enough proof of the supernatural to understand that our understanding of science is still limited. God and Science do co-exist, we just don't understand the science of the supernatural. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice

Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Michael Oke, II
Geoff, Not convenient at all and fairly easy to substantiate actually. As you don't reside in the US I guess that I'll have to forgive you for not realizing the Bush (a) was not running in this election and (b) could not run for a third term even though many from the lunatic fringe were

VFP9-Escape

2009-01-28 Thread Sytze de Boer
What's the (general) feeling here at Profox Should SET ESCAPE be ON or OFF ? -- Regards Sytze de Boer Kiss Systems Hamilton, NZ Ph: 64-7-8391670, Mob:021 937611, www.kiss.co.nz ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Michael Madigan
Only a true idiot would place George Bush under Jimmy Carter on a list of Presidents. Jimmy Carter is the worst president of all time. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Michael

Re: VFP9-Escape

2009-01-28 Thread Ken Kixmoeller/fh
ON during specific (especially long) processes OFF in general Ken On Jan 28, 2009, at 5:59 PM, Sytze de Boer wrote: What's the (general) feeling here at Profox Should SET ESCAPE be ON or OFF ? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

RE: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Geoff Flight
I am fully aware of term limits (which I think are insanely anti-democratic by the way). But the vote was very much a repudiation of George Bush more so than McCain or Republican politics. And I'm only quoting what a lot of other people are saying that GWB is the worst President in living memory.

RE: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Geoff Flight
Most people would disagree. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 10:55 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro Only a

RE: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Michael Madigan
Jimmy Carter did nothing positive for the country. He gave us high unemployment and high interest rates. George Bush gave us tax cuts, 7 years of safety after 9/11, the removal of the Taliban from power, the removal of Saddam Hussein from power, the dismantling of the Libyan atomic program,

RE: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Michael Madigan
You're wrong, most people would not disagree. And you can't poll people who weren't born yet, you can only poll those of us who lived through both administrations. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 ---

RE: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Bob Calco
3. This subject actually gets to the heart of the creative purpose of God as expressed through the redemptive mission of His Son in human history, and the deeper meaning of the original fall (as it is misleadingly called), so it's worth pondering a bit more seriously. - Bob I

RE: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Geoff Flight
In some degree of fairness to Carter (who I thought was weak) high unemployment and interest rates was a global phenomenon - not a purely domestic one. As for 7 years of prosperity... that conveniently ignores the worst downturn since the depression in the 8th year. Now the trigger for that WAS

RE: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Michael Madigan
History will be kind. We'll see this recession worsen, we'll see double-digit unemployment, we'll see at least on city attacked by Al Quada, and we'll see several of Obama's cabinet go to jail. And hopefully, we'll see him indicted very shortly.

RE: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Geoff Flight
Time will indeed tell and I'm sure you will blame obama for everything. After all, you started blaming him for things before he took office. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009

RE: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Michael Madigan
Just like people like you blamed Bush for eberything, I won't give the Kenyan any slack at all. * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote: From:

RE: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro

2009-01-28 Thread Geoff Flight
Bush had 8 years, O has had 8 days. Probably a tad unfair to blame him for the economic collapse. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 11:45 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE:

RE: VFP9-Escape

2009-01-28 Thread Rick Schummer
Should SET ESCAPE be ON or OFF ? ON if in development, OFF by default in run-time environment, unless long process where user should have ability to cancel. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com

RE: : [NF] Linux Laptop

2009-01-28 Thread Rick Schummer
I thought your computer was really cool Kevin. Perfect size for traveling and keeping in touch. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

Re: : [NF] Linux Laptop

2009-01-28 Thread Kevin Cully
My only beef with it is the video card. The native resolution of the 9 screen is 1024x600. When you plug in an external monitor, the resolution is still 1024x600. I believe that Samsung is coming out with a netbook where the native resolution is something like 1024x600 but when you plug in an

[OT] Imagine

2009-01-28 Thread Michael Madigan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2CaBR3z85ce * 1/20/2013 Eviction Notice http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/6169336 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: VFP9-Escape

2009-01-28 Thread Allen Pollard
I have a public var lContinue set to .T. and on escape lContinue = .F. Then in long processes I look for a .F. to stop. Allen - Original Message - From: Rick Schummer pro...@whitelightcomputing.com To: profoxt...@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:12 AM Subject: RE: