RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-18 Thread mrgmhale
in the computer industry, and it seems to hold true still - in pretty much any business as Ted states. Gil > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ted Roche > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 9:33 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subj

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-18 Thread Ted Roche
On 3/17/07, mrgmhale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then again, I have seen the results of "consultants" who have basically > pissed away a large amount of client capital (after getting their cut of > course) chasing the Next Big Thing because it sounded cool, and M$ was so > behind the Next Big Thi

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Chet Gardiner
I meant 2038 I guess http://news.com.com/2100-7355-5129875.html "Unix itself uses a similar method to resolve dates, but developers chose the maximum infinity value of 2 to the 31st power--about 2 billion seconds. That means that PTC software will "time out" Jan. 10, while most Unix programs w

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread mrgmhale
il Other Self kind of likes the victimizer consultants, makes things better for me in a way. Gil > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MB Software Solutions > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 6:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Su

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread MB Software Solutions
Stephen the Cook wrote: > So as long as it's not a WIN os it's fine? From my POV the Data Ho just > does it. They don't care anymore how it's done. Just that the work is > completed. It's just characters and numbers to me. It has nothing to do > anything past that. Sorry. > But seebot

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread MB Software Solutions
Ed Leafe wrote: > And some only care that the solution puts the most money in their > pocket, whether it's good for the client or not. What do you call > those people? "Data Ho"s? > Zing! -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fab

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 3/17/07, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mar 17, 2007, at 5:39 PM, Jean Laeremans wrote: > > > Time to introduce some smileys ? > > Why? Do you find people of limited faculties to be funny? Other way around. Would allow them to share in the fun ;) A+ jml

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 5:45 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: > I don't remember you making a comment like that in the past. > Granted it's > been years, but it would have registered as a statement. I don't remember it ever coming up before. I hope that you realize that there are some things

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 5:39 PM, Jean Laeremans wrote: > Time to introduce some smileys ? Why? Do you find people of limited faculties to be funny? -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Sub

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Stephen the Cook
Ed Leafe <> wrote: > On Mar 17, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: > >>> FWIW, I've looked at .Net when it was first introduced, and then >>> again when the 2.0 version came out. If I was forced to develop in >>> it, I wouldn't hate it, but since I'm aware of much better ways of >>> doi

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 3/17/07, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mar 17, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Jean Laeremans wrote: > > >> Moral: don't try to use humor or subtlety. Some people > >> just can't > >> fathom it. > >> > > No need to cater for the lowest denominator, is there ? > > Well, given that th

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Jean Laeremans wrote: >> Moral: don't try to use humor or subtlety. Some people >> just can't >> fathom it. >> > No need to cater for the lowest denominator, is there ? Well, given that they obviously can't grasp the difference between a hypothetic

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 3/17/07, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mar 17, 2007, at 1:33 PM, mrgmhale wrote: > > > More obviously you missed the tongue-in-cheek humor. But that is > > okay, you > > picked up on the real underlying notation regardless. > > Moral: don't try to use humor or subtlety. Some

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread mrgmhale
nt: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:40 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch > > > On Mar 17, 2007, at 1:33 PM, mrgmhale wrote: > > > More obviously you missed the tongue-in-cheek humor. But that is > > okay, you > >

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 2:23 PM, John Baird wrote: > You don't have to give ringing endorsements. Just say you don't > like it and > won't use it, but don't make unfounded assertions as to usability, > etc. > That's all he's (and I'm) saying, but you can't do that, can you? Please try to

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 2:18 PM, John Baird wrote: > Well I'm sure it wouldn't be Dabo. You're "sure"... ok... > however that doesn't negate the fact that making absurd statements > with nothing to back them up is ridiculous. Nothing to back up an absurd statement... hmmm... didn'

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:40 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch On Mar 17, 2007, at 1:33 PM, mrgmhale wrote: > More obviously you missed the tongue-in-cheek humor. But that is > okay, you > pi

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:39 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch On Mar 17, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: >> FWIW, I've looked at .Net when it was first

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
dabo in another message. I've looked a perl, python, java, Borland c# and Delphi, etc. and still like the power of .net. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:01 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re:

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
ut other products with which I have nothing more than a passing acquaintance. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 12:59 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
t: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch Well, perhaps, but then again, for what his clients need and what he can do for them with his current skillset, he might not feel the need to go back for re-training on something different, be it DotNet, Java, or whatever. And supposedly,

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 1:33 PM, mrgmhale wrote: > More obviously you missed the tongue-in-cheek humor. But that is > okay, you > picked up on the real underlying notation regardless. Moral: don't try to use humor or subtlety. Some people just can't fathom it. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leaf

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: >> FWIW, I've looked at .Net when it was first introduced, and then >> again when the 2.0 version came out. If I was forced to develop in >> it, I wouldn't hate it, but since I'm aware of much better ways of >> doing the same things, I woul

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread mrgmhale
gt; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Baird > > Sent: 17 March 2007 15:23 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch > > > > > > What Xbase Was available in 1957? > > >

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread mrgmhale
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch > > > Obviously he's been drinking from the same bottle as the rest of > the ''dot not" crowd. Its funny that the ones making unqualified > statements like this have probably

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Stephen the Cook
Ed Leafe <> wrote: > On Mar 17, 2007, at 11:23 AM, John Baird wrote: > >> Obviously he's been drinking from the same bottle as the rest of the >> ''dot not" crowd. Its funny that the ones making unqualified >> statements like this have probably never used .net further than >> "Hello world", if th

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 11:31 AM, John Weller wrote: > Look at the whole thread in the archives before you make comments. ...and list all of the alternatives you explored before accusing others of not being "open". -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com _

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 11:27 AM, John Weller wrote: > I think you missed part of the original post which was along the > lines of > 'What will happen in 2032' Nothing at all unusual. However, in 2038 there will be a problem with most POSIX systems and many C programs that use th

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 17, 2007, at 11:23 AM, John Baird wrote: > Obviously he's been drinking from the same bottle as the rest of > the ''dot not" crowd. Its funny that the ones making unqualified > statements like this have probably never used .net further than > "Hello world", if that much. It'

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread MB Software Solutions
John Baird wrote: > Obviously he's been drinking from the same bottle as the rest of the ''dot > not" crowd. Its funny that the ones making unqualified statements like this > have probably never used .net further than "Hello world", if that much. > Well, perhaps, but then again, for what his

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread MB Software Solutions
John Baird wrote: > Obviously he's been drinking from the same bottle as the rest of the ''dot > not" crowd. Its funny that the ones making unqualified statements like this > have probably never used .net further than "Hello world", if that much. > Well, perhaps, but then again, for what his

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
Gullible is not the description that I would have chosen. -Original Message- From: "Jean Laeremans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ProFox Email List" Sent: 3/1the7/07 12:12 Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch On 3/17/07, John Baird

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 3/17/07, John Baird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Obviously he's been drinking from the same bottle as the rest of the ''dot > not" crowd. Its funny that the ones making unqualified statements like this > have probably never used .net further than "Hello world", if that much. Sorry John, nic

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
LOL. O K -Original Message- From: "John Weller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: profox@leafe.com Sent: 3/17/07 11:27 Subject: RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch I think you missed part of the original post which was along the lines of 'What will happen

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
He talks about "bloated behemoths" and then mentions "Dot not". His bias is obvious, ergo, my point is valid. -Original Message- From: "John Weller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: profox@leafe.com Sent: 3/17/07 11:31 Subject: RE: [NF] Daylight Sav

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Weller
nt: 17 March 2007 15:23 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch > > > Obviously he's been drinking from the same bottle as the rest of > the ''dot not" crowd. Its funny that the ones making unqualified > statements

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Weller
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch > > > What Xbase Was available in 1957? > > -Original Message- > From: "MB Software Solutions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: profox@leafe.com > Sent: 3/17/07

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
What Xbase Was available in 1957? -Original Message- From: "MB Software Solutions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: profox@leafe.com Sent: 3/17/07 10:52 Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch mrgmhale wrote: > I turn 78, and enter my 5th decade cutting c

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread John Baird
quot;MB Software Solutions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: profox@leafe.com Sent: 3/17/07 10:52 Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch mrgmhale wrote: > I turn 78, and enter my 5th decade cutting code in xBase for my VFP9/Sedna > apps, dazzling folks with my effective use

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread MB Software Solutions
mrgmhale wrote: > I turn 78, and enter my 5th decade cutting code in xBase for my VFP9/Sedna > apps, dazzling folks with my effective use of an "antiquated" language and > database solution that will still run circles around whatever SuperBloat > DotNotYet code M$ is stuffing down the throats of de

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-17 Thread mrgmhale
, 2007 12:26 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch > > > What happens in 2032? > > Charlie Coleman wrote: > > At 10:35 AM 3/11/2007 -0400, mrgmhale wrote: > > > > ... > > > >> I am still here despite t

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-16 Thread Chet Gardiner
What happens in 2032? Charlie Coleman wrote: > At 10:35 AM 3/11/2007 -0400, mrgmhale wrote: > > ... > >> I am still here despite the much feared, even more hated, Daylight Saving >> Time change! And all of my business PCs updated correctly (including the >> NT4SP6a Server with a 3rd party patc

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-15 Thread Charlie Coleman
At 10:35 AM 3/11/2007 -0400, mrgmhale wrote: ... >I am still here despite the much feared, even more hated, Daylight Saving >Time change! And all of my business PCs updated correctly (including the >NT4SP6a Server with a 3rd party patch). The M$ Win2000ProSP4 patch even >worked! The only machin

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-13 Thread Chet Gardiner
No daylight savings time here in Tucson. It's about 85 and sunny. I'm thawing out... C Ted Roche wrote: > On 3/11/07, mrgmhale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I am still here despite the much feared, even more hated, Daylight Saving >> Time change! And all of my business PCs updated corr

Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-11 Thread Ted Roche
On 3/11/07, mrgmhale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am still here despite the much feared, even more hated, Daylight Saving > Time change! And all of my business PCs updated correctly (including the > NT4SP6a Server with a 3rd party patch). The M$ Win2000ProSP4 patch even > worked! My blogging.

RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch

2007-03-11 Thread john harvey
I kept getting text messages from Treo or cingular about updating my Treo 650 software for this boondoogle, and I never found time to get it done. Guess what, the time was corrected anyway...h... patch they say...hmmm My Casio G-Shock Atomic Clock watch synched fine, and I used it to set t