Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

On 06/06/10 03:22, ant wrote: I get the strong feeling that nobody is really happy with the state of Python GUIs. Tkinter is not widely liked, but is widely distributed. WxPython and PyGtk are both powerful, but quirky in different ways. PyQt is tied to one platform. And there are dozens more.

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Re: Which objects are expanded by double-star ** operator?

On 6/7/2010 6:03 PM, Peter Otten wrote: kkumer wrote: I have to merge two dictionaries into one, and in a "shallow" way: changing items should be possible by operating either on two parents or on a new dictionary. I am open to suggestions how to do this (values are always numbers, BTW), but I

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > Great to hear from you. You're right about the powers that be, and i agree! > I was just being a bit theatrical (i've been known to do that from time to > time...Sorry. ;-). > > I know one of at least is interested enough to

Re: Non Sequitur: Re: Python Forum

On Jun 7, 12:41 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > "Fish" can be either singular (as in "I fed the fish") or a collective > noun ("there are many fish that live in salt water"). Plural is "fishes", > as in "I ate three fishes", although in common use people tend to use > fish/fishes as both plural and

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

alex23 writes: > What gets me is the implicit attitude in some of these posts that it's > just so _obvious_ that something needs to be done and it's simply that > _everyone else_ is either stupid, lazy or biased towards actually > existing code. When deciding what code is valuable and what's not

Re: if, continuation and indentation

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Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

On Jun 7, 11:51 pm, alex23 wrote: Of course i was just being theatrical alex, i hope your last post was in the same manner. However your right about everything you said except your accusations that i am not willing to help bring this into reality -- i just need to find the right base... and i m

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

rantingrick wrote: > The problem is getting a large enough group of Python users to agree > on anything about GUIs. No, the problem is it's a lot easier to find fault than it is to provide a solution. And that maybe, just maybe, other people don't want to have to do your dirty work for you. > I

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

> > However as i have mentioned before there will NEVER be a crowd of us > marching in the streets behind one GUI. People are just too busy to > get involved. This has to be an executive decision. The powers that be > must make the change themselves or it will never happen -- i can > guarantee that

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

On 06/07/2010 09:19 PM, rantingrick wrote: > On Jun 7, 5:05 pm, Michael Torrie wrote: > >> Thus for Python to really be successful in a broader sense, we need >> good, solid, bindings for Cocoa, or Windows forms (whatever they are >> using these days), as well as the most popular windows toolkits

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

On Jun 7, 5:05 pm, Michael Torrie wrote: > Thus for Python to really be successful in a broader sense, we need > good, solid, bindings for Cocoa, or Windows forms (whatever they are > using these days), as well as the most popular windows toolkits.  We > don't need another Swing.  As someone else

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

On Jun 7, 1:29 pm, Terry Reedy wrote: > Ant > I agree that the current tk situation is not completely satisfactory. In > particular, the IO facilities are inadequate and have not, to my > knowledge, changed in a decade. Image input formats are limited. There > is no canvas output as an image. (Out

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

Terry Reedy wrote: pygui ... has its own problems. ... the api sytle is not standard in Python (get_xx and set_xx methods instead of direct access or properties); That was only true in a very early version of PyGUI. Properties are used very extensively now. (It uses get_xxx and set_xxx method

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Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

On 6/7/2010 5:25 PM, Arndt Roger Schneider wrote: Terry Reedy schrieb: ... Hah, You are ill-informed. How about 'under-informed'? That I readily admit ;-) tkpath 0.3 contains a surface element, which renders vector graphics elements in an off-screen tk image. As far as I know, tkpath is

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

On 2010-06-06, ant wrote: > On Jun 6, 2:22?pm, ant wrote: >> I get the strong feeling that nobody is really happy with the state of >> Python GUIs. > > > What an interesting set of responses I got! And - even more > interesting - how few of them actually seem to think there is a > problem, I rar

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Re: Which objects are expanded by double-star ** operator?

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: > The following experiment shows that you only need to implement a keys() and > __getitem__() method. > > $ cat kw.py > class A(object): >    def keys(self): return list("ab") >    def __getitem__(self, key): >        return 42 >

Re: Plotting in batch with no display

On 07/06/2010 08:41, Hans Georg Schaathun wrote: On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 16:10:01 + (UTC), Tim Harig wrote: : On 2010-06-05, Hans Georg Schaathun wrote: :> Raster graphics is not good enough, I will need a backend which :> does vector graphics and pdf output. AFAICS from the FAQ at :> s

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

On 06/06/2010 04:55 PM, ant wrote: > What an interesting set of responses I got! > And - even more interesting - how few of them actually seem to think > there is a problem, let > alone make any attempt to move the situation forward. You simply haven't made a case that there is a problem to be sol

Re: Which objects are expanded by double-star ** operator?

kkumer wrote: > > I have to merge two dictionaries into one, and in > a "shallow" way: changing items should be possible > by operating either on two parents or on a > new dictionary. I am open to suggestions how > to do this (values are always numbers, BTW), but > I tried to do it by creating a

Re: Which objects are expanded by double-star ** operator?

The answer depends on the version: in 2.5 "If the syntax "**expression" appears in the function call, "expression" must evaluate to a (subclass of) dictionary, " in 3.1 "If the syntax **expression appears in the function call, expression must evaluate to a mapping," ReferenceManual.Epressions

Re: Which objects are expanded by double-star ** operator?

kkumer wrote: I have to merge two dictionaries into one, and in a "shallow" way: changing items should be possible by operating either on two parents or on a new dictionary. I am open to suggestions how to do this (values are always numbers, BTW), but I tried to do it by creating a dict-like clas

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

On 06/06/2010 02:13 AM, Gabriele Lanaro wrote: > I'd really like to s/tkinter/WxWidgets/g, the multiplatformness is (almost) > the same but wx looks infinitely better. IMHO a good intention is to best > the API of wx. Does WX still do weird things like use event message maps instead of a sane sign

Re: python2.5 x python2.6 in interactive mode

On 06/07/2010 01:43 PM, Alan wrote: > Hi there, > > I have a code with a 'exit()' at the end. We run it usually as: > > python2.5 -i code.py > > and if everything is fine, the 'exit()' is called and there's no > interactive terminal. You could instead do something like this: try: # ... except:

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

Terry Reedy schrieb: Ant I agree that the current tk situation is not completely satisfactory. In particular, the IO facilities are inadequate and have not, to my knowledge, changed in a decade. Image input formats are limited. There is no canvas output as an image. (Output of the canvase dis

Re: Python + vim + spaces vs tab

Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: Hello, Does anyone knows a way to configure vim so it automatically select to correct expandtab value depending on the current buffer 'way of doing' ? I need to edit different files, some are using spaces, others tabs. Those belong to different projects, and changi

Re: vector addition

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Thomas Jollans wrote: > On 06/07/2010 07:45 PM, Dan Stromberg wrote: > > > Call me strange, but I regard this as a good place to use a functional > style - IE, to use reduce, and furthermore I regard this as a good example > of why reduce is useful for more than j

Re: Which objects are expanded by double-star ** operator?

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 2:17 PM, kkumer wrote: > > I have to merge two dictionaries into one, and in > a "shallow" way: changing items should be possible > by operating either on two parents or on a > new dictionary. I am open to suggestions how > to do this (values are always numbers, BTW), but >

Re: PyQt signals/slots dialogs question

On 06/07/2010 08:21 PM, AlienBaby wrote: > On Jun 7, 5:21 pm, AlienBaby wrote: > >> My real aim here is to learn pyqt, so I would rather not the the >> QWizard process until I understand myself whats going on behind the >> scenes. >> > Perhaps I posted to early, but a little more perserver

Re: Which objects are expanded by double-star ** operator?

On 06/07/2010 10:17 PM, kkumer wrote: > I have to merge two dictionaries into one, and in > a "shallow" way: changing items should be possible > by operating either on two parents or on a > new dictionary. I am open to suggestions how > to do this (values are always numbers, BTW), but > I tried to

Re: Plotting in batch with no display

On 2010-06-07, Hans Georg Schaathun wrote: > On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 16:10:01 + (UTC), Tim Harig > wrote: >: On 2010-06-05, Hans Georg Schaathun wrote: >: > Raster graphics is not good enough, I will need a backend which >: > does vector graphics and pdf output. AFAICS from the FAQ at >: > sou

Re: vector addition

On 06/07/2010 07:45 PM, Dan Stromberg wrote: > > Call me strange, but I regard this as a good place to use a functional > style - IE, to use reduce, and furthermore I regard this as a good > example of why reduce is useful for more than just summing numbers: > > #!/disc/gx/sdfw/dans/python26/bin/py

Re: Importing modules

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Ben Finney > wrote: > Anthony Papillion writes: > > > import os > > > > os.path.append('$HOME/gsutils/boto') > > > > thinking I could then successfully do the import boto statement. > > Nope. > > You'll need to give the literal path. Substitution of environment >

Which objects are expanded by double-star ** operator?

I have to merge two dictionaries into one, and in a "shallow" way: changing items should be possible by operating either on two parents or on a new dictionary. I am open to suggestions how to do this (values are always numbers, BTW), but I tried to do it by creating a dict-like class that just for

Re: Plotting in batch with no display

On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 16:10:01 + (UTC), Tim Harig wrote: : On 2010-06-05, Hans Georg Schaathun wrote: : > Raster graphics is not good enough, I will need a backend which : > does vector graphics and pdf output. AFAICS from the FAQ at : > sourceforge, agg only supports raster and png. Cairo

Re: Reading file bit by bit

On 6/7/2010 6:20 AM, Ulrich Eckhardt wrote: Ulrich Eckhardt wrote: data = f.read() for byte in data: for i in range(8): bit = 2**i& byte ... Correction: Of course you have to use ord() to get from the single-element string ("byte" above) to its integral

Re: Missing DLL in win98

On 6/7/2010 8:15 AM, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: Spyder42 wrote: On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:03:48 -0400, Terry Reedy It was not obvious, without closely reading your original post... So it WAS obvious to anyone who was PAYING ATTENTION? That is not what I said, as indicated by a further line

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

Ant I agree that the current tk situation is not completely satisfactory. In particular, the IO facilities are inadequate and have not, to my knowledge, changed in a decade. Image input formats are limited. There is no canvas output as an image. (Output of the canvase display list as a dialect

Re: PyQt signals/slots dialogs question

On Jun 7, 5:21 pm, AlienBaby wrote: > My real aim here is to learn pyqt, so I would rather not the the > QWizard process until I understand myself whats going on behind the > scenes. Perhaps I posted to early, but a little more perserverance and I have managed to unthaw the brain and move forward

Re: vector addition

Call me strange, but I regard this as a good place to use a functional style - IE, to use reduce, and furthermore I regard this as a good example of why reduce is useful for more than just summing numbers: #!/disc/gx/sdfw/dans/python26/bin/python import collections def count_first_letters(dictio

Re: os.path.normpath question

Bart wrote: > I'm using this and ran across backslash issues in one of my paths. > > archpath = os.path.normpath('E:\foo\FTP\HLS\archive') > > was translating to: > > E:\lsfprod\law\uch_interfaces\FTP\HLSrchive > > which caused me to start using the 'raw' declaration before the path

Re: Python + vim + spaces vs tab

On 2010-06-07, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone knows a way to configure vim so it automatically > select to correct expandtab value depending on the current > buffer 'way of doing' ? I need to edit different files, some > are using spaces, others tabs. Those belong to differe

Python + vim + spaces vs tab

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Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

On 06/07/10 20:18, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 13:19 +1000, Lie Ryan wrote: >> On 06/07/10 12:18, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: >>> But then I don't know any of the local Python devs who use IDLE; the >>> IDE landscape for Python is very fragmented, which disincentives that >>

Re: PyQt signals/slots dialogs question

My real aim here is to learn pyqt, so I would rather not the the QWizard process until I understand myself whats going on behind the scenes. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PyQt signals/slots dialogs question

On Jun 7, 4:37 pm, Phil Thompson wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 08:22:07 -0700 (PDT), AlienBaby > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > I'm just starting to get to grips with PyQt, and I'm having a bit of > > trouble connecting slots / signals, or understanding how I should do > > so to achieve what I am

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Re: PyQt signals/slots dialogs question

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Re: PyQt signals/slots dialogs question

On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 08:22:07 -0700 (PDT), AlienBaby wrote: > Hi, > > I'm just starting to get to grips with PyQt, and I'm having a bit of > trouble connecting slots / signals, or understanding how I should do > so to achieve what I am after. > > I am trying to write an application that will displ

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

On Jun 7, 3:08 am, ant wrote: > I rather feel like I'm flogging a dead horse here, but time for > another mile... > > First off, I'm not volunteering to lead this effort. I don't think > anyone should > even think about that until and unless the Python Powers That Be > actually > decide that it is

PyQt signals/slots dialogs question

Hi, I'm just starting to get to grips with PyQt, and I'm having a bit of trouble connecting slots / signals, or understanding how I should do so to achieve what I am after. I am trying to write an application that will display a sequence of dialogs, with back / next / cancel buttons to step throu

Re: Python Forum

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Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

On 07/06/2010 04:31, Carl Banks wrote: On Jun 5, 7:22 pm, ant wrote: I get the strong feeling that nobody is really happy with the state of Python GUIs. Tkinter is not widely liked, but is widely distributed. WxPython and PyGtk are both powerful, but quirky in different ways. PyQt is tied to on

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

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Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

On 06/06/2010 22:11, rantingrick wrote: On Jun 6, 2:06 pm, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 06/06/2010 16:31, rantingrick wrote: On Jun 5, 9:22 pm, antwrote: I ask the group; should we try to create a new GUI for Python, with the following properties?: - Pythonic - The default GUI (so it r

Re: Reading file bit by bit

On 2010-06-07, Richard Thomas wrote: > You're reading those bits backwards. You want to read the most > significant bit of each byte first... Can you explain the reasoning behind that assertion? -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I can't decide which

Re: Drop Table w/ MySQLdb?

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Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:08:19 -0700, ant wrote: > First off, I'm not volunteering to lead this effort. I don't think > anyone should > even think about that until and unless the Python Powers That Be > actually > decide that it is worth doing. That is what I meant by 'strong > leadership'. You hav

Re: Tkinter help - Why this behavior ? (py3)

* Dodo, on 07.06.2010 12:38: Le 05/06/2010 19:07, Alf P. Steinbach a écrit : * Dodo, on 05.06.2010 15:46: Hi, let's consider this exemple : from tkinter import * from tkinter.ttk import * class First: def __init__(self): self.root = Tk() B = Button(self.root, command=self.op) B.pack() self.

Re: Reading file bit by bit

superpollo wrote: > mine goes like this: > > >>> bin(192) > Traceback (most recent call last): >File "", line 1, in > NameError: name 'bin' is not defined Yep, one of mine, too. The "bin" function was new in 2.6, as were binary number literals ("0b1100"). Uli -- Sator Laser GmbH Geschäft

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

ant writes: > First off, I'm not volunteering to lead this effort. I don't think > anyone should even think about that until and unless the Python Powers > That Be actually decide that it is worth doing. That is what I meant > by 'strong leadership'. In that case, you have rather a misconception

Re: Missing DLL in win98

Spyder42 wrote: On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:03:48 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: On 6/4/2010 9:08 AM, Spyder42 wrote: On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:50:28 +0200, Christian Heimes Python 2.6 is not supported on Windows 98 and earlier. You need at least Windows 2000 with a recent service pack. C

Re: Reading file bit by bit

Ulrich Eckhardt ha scritto: Peter Otten wrote: Ulrich Eckhardt wrote: Says Python: bin(192) '0x1100' Hmm, if that's what /your/ Python says, here's mine to counter: bin(192) '0_totally_faked_binary_0011' Argh! Of course one of my Pythons says '0b1100' and not what I mistype

Re: Reading file bit by bit

Peter Otten wrote: > Ulrich Eckhardt wrote: >> Says Python: >> > bin(192) >> '0x1100' > > Hmm, if that's what /your/ Python says, here's mine to counter: > bin(192) > '0_totally_faked_binary_0011' Argh! Of course one of my Pythons says '0b1100' and not what I mistyped above

Re: Reading file bit by bit

Ulrich Eckhardt wrote: > Nobody wrote: >> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 02:31:08 -0700, Richard Thomas wrote: >> >>> You're reading those bits backwards. You want to read the most >>> significant bit of each byte first... >> >> Says who? > > Says Python: > bin(192) > '0x1100' Hmm, if that's wh

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Re: Reading file bit by bit

Nobody wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 02:31:08 -0700, Richard Thomas wrote: > >> You're reading those bits backwards. You want to read the most >> significant bit of each byte first... > > Says who? Says Python: >>> bin(192) '0x1100' That said, I totally agree that there is no inherently rig

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Re: Reading file bit by bit

On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 02:31:08 -0700, Richard Thomas wrote: > You're reading those bits backwards. You want to read the most > significant bit of each byte first... Says who? There is no universal standard for bit-order. Among bitmap image formats, XBM is LSB-first while BMP and PBM are MSB-first

Re: Tkinter help - Why this behavior ? (py3)

Le 05/06/2010 19:07, Alf P. Steinbach a écrit : * Dodo, on 05.06.2010 15:46: Hi, let's consider this exemple : from tkinter import * from tkinter.ttk import * class First: def __init__(self): self.root = Tk() B = Button(self.root, command=self.op) B.pack() self.root.mainloop() def op(self):

Re: Reading file bit by bit

Richard Thomas wrote: > On Jun 7, 10:17 am, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: >> Alfred Bovin wrote: >> > I'm working on something where I need to read a (binary) file bit by >> > bit and do something depending on whether the bit is 0 or 1. >> >> > Any help on doing the actual file reading is

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

On 6 June, 23:55, ant wrote: >If we are to make progress, I can see two obvious approaches: >1) Improve Tkinter to the point where it is supportable and supported >by a good fraction of Python programmers >or >2) Drop Tkinter as the default and use something else. IIRC Guido has ruled out offici

Re: Reading file bit by bit

On 06/07/10 19:31, Richard Thomas wrote: > On Jun 7, 10:17 am, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: >> Alfred Bovin wrote: >>> I'm working on something where I need to read a (binary) file bit by bit >>> and do something depending on whether the bit is 0 or 1. >> >>> Any help on doing the actual f

Re: Reading file bit by bit

Ulrich Eckhardt wrote: >data = f.read() >for byte in data: >for i in range(8): >bit = 2**i & byte >... Correction: Of course you have to use ord() to get from the single-element string ("byte" above) to its integral value first. Uli -- Sator Laser GmbH Ge

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 13:19 +1000, Lie Ryan wrote: > On 06/07/10 12:18, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 11:11 +1000, Lie Ryan wrote: > >> On 06/07/10 10:48, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > >>> On Sun, 2010-06-06 at 17:03 -0700, AD. wrote: > On Jun 7, 10:55 am, ant wrote: > >

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 15:55:41 -0700, ant wrote: > If we are to make progress, I can see two obvious approaches: > 1) Improve Tkinter to the point where it is supportable and supported > by a good fraction of Python programmers > or > 2) Drop Tkinter as the default and use something else. You forgo

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

I rather feel like I'm flogging a dead horse here, but time for another mile... First off, I'm not volunteering to lead this effort. I don't think anyone should even think about that until and unless the Python Powers That Be actually decide that it is worth doing. That is what I meant by 'strong

Re: weird pickle behavior in Python 3.1.2 + Eclipse 3.5.2

kirby.ur...@gmail.com wrote: > On Jun 4, 9:47 am, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: > >> I can provoke the error in "naked" Python 3 by changing the >> Example.__module__ attribute: >> >> Python 3.1.1+ (r311:74480, Nov 2 2009, 15:45:00) >> [GCC 4.4.1] on linux2 >> Type "help", "copyright", "

Re: Reading file bit by bit

On Jun 7, 10:17 am, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: > Alfred Bovin wrote: > > I'm working on something where I need to read a (binary) file bit by bit > > and do something depending on whether the bit is 0 or 1. > > > Any help on doing the actual file reading is appreciated. > > The logical u

Re: Reading file bit by bit

Alfred Bovin wrote: > I'm working on something where I need to read a (binary) file bit by bit > and do something depending on whether the bit is 0 or 1. > > Any help on doing the actual file reading is appreciated. The logical unit in which files are written is the byte. You can split the byte

Re: Reading file bit by bit

Alfred Bovin wrote: > I'm working on something where I need to read a (binary) file bit by bit > and do something depending on whether the bit is 0 or 1. Well, smallest unit you can read is an octet/byte. You then check the individual digits of the byte using binary masks. f = open(...) da

Reading file bit by bit

Hi all. I'm working on something where I need to read a (binary) file bit by bit and do something depending on whether the bit is 0 or 1. Any help on doing the actual file reading is appreciated. Thanks in advance -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Thanks MRAB. setDaemon gave some hope. Alan On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 16:46, wrote: > Alan wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> That's another try to get help about this issue I am facing. To help you >> to help me here goes a simple example. This is a very simplification of a >> very complex code. >> >> -

Re: Importing modules

On Jun 6, 10:16 pm, Ben Finney wrote: > Anthony Papillion writes: > > import os > > > os.path.append('$HOME/gsutils/boto') > > > thinking I could then successfully do the import boto statement. > > Nope. > > You'll need to give the literal path. Substitution of environment > variables isn't perfo