qmail performance

2001-02-16 Thread zbeinet
Hi,   I setup freebsd4.2 with qmail in my intranet, I used 192.168...IP address; and I have a DNS server with 202.96...IP address to provide name service to dialup users(outside), the FB and DNS are connected with a router. I hope dialup users could send and receive mail. When the

Re: qmail performance under Solaris8

2000-09-13 Thread Nathan J. Mehl
In the immortal words of Oezguer Kesim ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > reiserfs is available for many distributions. But even if not, it should > not take more than half an hour on decent machines to patch a decent kernel > and run the a new kernel with reiserfs included. Honestly, I can't consider re

Re: qmail performance under Solaris8

2000-09-13 Thread Nathan J. Mehl
In the immortal words of Felix von Leitner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > The inferiority was noted by yourself, so I don't see a flamebait here. I think you're reading a little too much into what I'm saying. "Not as good as veritas" is a far cry from "inferior," and is still a long sight better than

Re: qmail performance under Solaris8

2000-09-13 Thread Oezguer Kesim
Thus spake Nathan J. Mehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > In 1-2 years, when reiserfs/xfs/jfs/ext3 or whatever is integrated > into the mainline linux distributions, this will become much less of > an issue. (Doesn't really address that LVM portion, but that's > probably a lot less critical for most peop

Re: qmail performance under Solaris8

2000-09-13 Thread Felix von Leitner
Thus spake Nathan J. Mehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Can you please expand on how an inferior file system for Solaris is in > > any way "a big win over the various free unixes"? Especially under the > > assumption of a constrained budget, please. > Could we please dispense with the flamebait? The

Re: qmail performance under Solaris8

2000-09-13 Thread Nathan J. Mehl
In the immortal words of Felix von Leitner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Thus spake Nathan J. Mehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > Solaris 7 does come with a FS that journals metadata, but no one's > > > ever benchmarked it's performance with a large todo for the list. > > Well, like I said, it's not necessar

Re: qmail performance under Solaris8

2000-09-13 Thread Felix von Leitner
Thus spake Nathan J. Mehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Solaris 7 does come with a FS that journals metadata, but no one's > > ever benchmarked it's performance with a large todo for the list. > Well, like I said, it's not necessarily best-of-breed, it's just > there, which is a big win over the variou

Re: qmail performance under Solaris8

2000-09-13 Thread Nathan J. Mehl
In the immortal words of John White ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Solaris 7 definitely doesn't come with DiskSuite as part of the > base distribution. I know that I certainly don't have it. Hrm. Okay, I could have sworn that 2.7 was being bundled with DiskSuite, but I don't have a media package ar

Re: qmail performance under Solaris8

2000-09-13 Thread John White
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 04:56:28PM -0400, Nathan J. Mehl wrote: > In the immortal words of John White ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > However, I question the decision to use Solaris x86. I'm not aware > > of any advantage there is over something like Linux or xBSD. > > Three words: journalling fil

Re: qmail performance under Solaris8

2000-09-13 Thread Nathan J. Mehl
In the immortal words of John White ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > However, I question the decision to use Solaris x86. I'm not aware > of any advantage there is over something like Linux or xBSD. Three words: journalling file system. Four more words: integrated logical volume manager. Solstice Dis

Re: qmail performance under Solaris8

2000-09-12 Thread markd
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 06:22:02PM -0700, John White wrote: > Better OS gurus than I can comment on exactly how Solaris bloats > network processes. > > All I'll say is that qmail still performs admirably on the Solaris > latform. > > However, I question the decision to use Solaris x86. I'm not

Re: qmail performance under Solaris8

2000-09-12 Thread markd
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 08:56:35AM +0800, Brian Baquiran wrote: > I was considering setting up qmail on a Solaris8 x86 machine until I stumbled upon >DJB's notes regarding publicfile's performance >(http://cr.yp.to/publicfile/performance.html) > > "publicfile achieves similar results under othe

Re: qmail performance under Solaris8

2000-09-12 Thread John White
Better OS gurus than I can comment on exactly how Solaris bloats network processes. All I'll say is that qmail still performs admirably on the Solaris latform. However, I question the decision to use Solaris x86. I'm not aware of any advantage there is over something like Linux or xBSD. John

qmail performance under Solaris8

2000-09-12 Thread Brian Baquiran
I was considering setting up qmail on a Solaris8 x86 machine until I stumbled upon DJB's notes regarding publicfile's performance (http://cr.yp.to/publicfile/performance.html) "publicfile achieves similar results under other operating systems, except Solaris. Solaris adds an incredible amount

Re: Qmail performance question...

2000-07-02 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 01:58:40PM -0700, Eric Cox wrote: [snip] > > Just out of curiosity, has anyone tried loading up a machine with > gobs of RAM and then placing the queue on a ramdisk? I know this > would be dangerous for a production machine though, and I don't even > know if the whold

Re: Qmail performance question...

2000-07-02 Thread Eric Cox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 11:54:55AM -0500, Ian Layton wrote: > > Hello. > > > Your solution is to put your queue on a disk subsystem that can sync > at the rate you want to submit (and deliver). Some do this with a faster > disk, some do this with a partition that is

Re: Qmail performance question...

2000-06-30 Thread Ken Jones
Ian Layton wrote: > > Hello. > > I have recently installed Qmail on an Alpha box for my boss. I got it to > send a simulated 100K message per hour through a dirty benchmark I wrote. My > boss wants more than that. I believe that the slow up is in qmail-inject. Is > there any way to make qmail-in

Re: Qmail performance question...

2000-06-29 Thread Mattias Paulsson
> Your solution is to put your queue on a disk subsystem that can sync > at the rate you want to submit (and deliver). Some do this with a faster > disk, some do this with a partition that is spread across multiple > spindles. How you do this depends on your OS type and what sort > of hardware you

Re: Qmail performance question...

2000-06-29 Thread markd
On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 11:54:55AM -0500, Ian Layton wrote: > Hello. > > I have recently installed Qmail on an Alpha box for my boss. I got it to > send a simulated 100K message per hour through a dirty benchmark I wrote. My > boss wants more than that. I believe that the slow up is in qmail-inje

Qmail performance question...

2000-06-29 Thread Ian Layton
Hello. I have recently installed Qmail on an Alpha box for my boss. I got it to send a simulated 100K message per hour through a dirty benchmark I wrote. My boss wants more than that. I believe that the slow up is in qmail-inject. Is there any way to make qmail-inject faster or bypass it totally?

Re: Qmail performance issue...

2000-06-28 Thread Dave Sill
Brian Masney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are currently using qmail 1.03 on a Sun E450 running Solaris 8. We >are having a problem with mail taking a very long time to be delivered >locally (sometimes in excess of 6 or 8 hours). The load on the box isn't >that bad at all, it just seems that

RE: Qmail performance issue...

2000-06-28 Thread Greg Owen
>We are currently using qmail 1.03 on a Sun E450 running > Solaris 8. We are having a problem with mail taking a very > long time to be delivered locally (sometimes in excess of > 6 or 8 hours). Check your trigger: http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#trigger -- gowen --

Qmail performance issue...

2000-06-28 Thread Brian Masney
We are currently using qmail 1.03 on a Sun E450 running Solaris 8. We are having a problem with mail taking a very long time to be delivered locally (sometimes in excess of 6 or 8 hours). The load on the box isn't that bad at all, it just seems that qmail isn't sending out the mail in a timely

Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-12 Thread John White
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 12:40:28AM -0600, Neil Schemenauer wrote: > On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 10:54:37PM -0700, John White wrote: > > If you're looking for queue speed, you want RAID 1+0 with a > > NVRAM cache to accellerate the small block writes. > > zeroseek would be even cooler. Don't use zer

Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-11 Thread Neil Schemenauer
On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 10:54:37PM -0700, John White wrote: > If you're looking for queue speed, you want RAID 1+0 with a > NVRAM cache to accellerate the small block writes. zeroseek would be even cooler. Neil -- There are two rules for success in life: Rule 1: Don't tell people everythi

Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-11 Thread John White
On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 09:01:27AM -0400, Steve Craft wrote: > To throw my $.02 at this issue, if this is looking like a "low level" speed > issue, why not tinker with the hardware? Taking the two disks that hold > /var and putting them on a RAID0 set should give you a serious speed boost > witho

RE: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-11 Thread Steve Craft
To throw my $.02 at this issue, if this is looking like a "low level" speed issue, why not tinker with the hardware? Taking the two disks that hold /var and putting them on a RAID0 set should give you a serious speed boost without touching your (otherwise working) qmail config. -Original

Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-10 Thread Flemming Funch
At 02:40 AM 5/10/2000, Neil Schemenauer wrote: >You should find the bottleneck before you jump to any >conclusions. What version of the Linux kernel are you using? 2.2.12 compiled with higher process limit (4090), higher file and inode limits (16000/48000), smp support, and drivers for SCSI and

Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-10 Thread markd
On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 10:09:09AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boy a few early morning typos here. Some corrections: > While it's hard to tell without looking, by guess is that your inbound > submission rate is killing the spindle that your disk lives on. That would be "that your queue live

Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-10 Thread markd
On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 01:30:53AM -0700, Flemming Funch wrote: > At 09:39 AM 5/9/2000, Matthew B. Henniges wrote: > >On a dual celeron 466 with 512Mb ram. and 3 10k scsi drives (one for > >/var/qmail/queue, one for /var/log, one for /usr/home) > >concurrency remote at 500 > >concurrency local at

Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-10 Thread Ricardo D. Albano
Are you using syslogd ? RDA.- -Original Message- From: Flemming Funch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 5:28 AM Subject: RE: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues >At 09:39 AM 5/9/2000, Matthe

Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-10 Thread Neil Schemenauer
On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 01:30:53AM -0700, Flemming Funch wrote: > So .. eh... would it likely be my disk I/O that slows it down > (how do I test that?), or should I be switching to FreeBSD, or > am I doing something stupid? You should find the bottleneck before you jump to any conclusions. What

RE: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-10 Thread Flemming Funch
At 09:39 AM 5/9/2000, Matthew B. Henniges wrote: >On a dual celeron 466 with 512Mb ram. and 3 10k scsi drives (one for >/var/qmail/queue, one for /var/log, one for /usr/home) >concurrency remote at 500 >concurrency local at 50 >FreeBSD 3.4-S >localhost dnscache > >It will push 12 Million on a good

RE: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-09 Thread Matthew B. Henniges
>I have a question about qmail regarding its mail handling capacity. >How many remote emails can qmail send simulataneously, assuming it is run >on a Dual-CPU PIII 500Mhz with 512Mb RAM and a SCSI hard disk? The internet >bandwidth is 10 Mbps. On a dual celeron 466 with 512Mb ram. and 3 10k

Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-08 Thread Dave Sill
"Bryan White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Do you have any feel for how to evaluate what is an optimum number of >remotes? Measure the delivery rate at various settings of concurrencyremote. Choose the setting that yields the highest delivery rate. >At 400 remotes I still have 80% CPU idle time.

Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-08 Thread markd
On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 10:56:43AM -0400, Bryan White wrote: > >It's not even that hard, that was the first time I had ever fiddled > with > > the Kernel source. We went to 4096, which should allow for quite a few > > qmail-remotes. : ) > > Do you have any feel for how to evaluate what is an

Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-08 Thread Steve Wolfe
> The documentation of RedHat.com is technically accurate, just not > complete. There are two limits. One is the total number of > files handles for all processes. This is adjustable through > /proc/sys/fs/file-max. The other limit is the number of file > handles opened by a single process. T

Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-08 Thread Bryan White
>It's not even that hard, that was the first time I had ever fiddled with > the Kernel source. We went to 4096, which should allow for quite a few > qmail-remotes. : ) Do you have any feel for how to evaluate what is an optimum number of remotes? At 400 remotes I still have 80% CPU idle tim

Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-08 Thread Neil Schemenauer
On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 01:17:13PM -0600, Steve Wolfe wrote: > Despite the docs at RedHat.com, saying how easy it is to > increase the file-handle limit on the new kernels, I found that > it simply didn't work. Editing the source and recompiling the > kernel (as you had to in older kernels) did th

Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-08 Thread Steve Wolfe
> Another allows increasing the maximum number of > concurrent remotes beyond 250. The patch allows up to 500 but that limit > seems to be linux related. I would imagine that to be because Linux by default only allows 1024 file handles to be open at once. If each of the qmail-remotes has a m

Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-07 Thread Bob Rogers
From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 21:22:30 -0600 . . . > Another question is about the Mail header. What is the header that I should > add into a generated email so that undelivered/bounced emails go to this > specific email address instead? For ex

Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-07 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 08:41:11AM -0400, Bryan White wrote: [snip] > > I have played with removing flush statements from qmail-queue.c. This > dramatically increases the rate at which qmail-inject puts stuff into the > queue. This led to very large queues (my sending process backs off when the

Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-07 Thread Bryan White
> I have a question about qmail regarding its mail handling capacity. > How many remote emails can qmail send simulataneously, assuming it is run > on a Dual-CPU PIII 500Mhz with 512Mb RAM and a SCSI hard disk? The internet > bandwidth is 10 Mbps. > > If I run 2 parallel processes that sends o

Re: QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-06 Thread Steve Wolfe
> I have a question about qmail regarding its mail handling capacity. > How many remote emails can qmail send simulataneously, assuming it is run > on a Dual-CPU PIII 500Mhz with 512Mb RAM and a SCSI hard disk? The internet > bandwidth is 10 Mbps. A lot. : ) There is a hard-coded limit t

QMail Performance Question & Miscellaneous Issues

2000-05-06 Thread Chun Hoh
Dear QMail users, I am a QMail newbie and I would like some advice on some qmail performance issues. I have a question about qmail regarding its mail handling capacity. How many remote emails can qmail send simulataneously, assuming it is run on a Dual-CPU PIII 500Mhz with 512Mb RAM and a

Re: Qmail performance statistics

1999-04-28 Thread Keith Burdis
On Wed 1999-04-28 (14:20), Fred Lindberg wrote: > Hi, > > Has anyone for fun taken a high-end machine and produced the type of > statistics that www.lsoft.com is presenting for lsmtp > (http://www.lsoft.com/lsmtp.html)? They are obviously geared towards > overestimation, but it would be useful fo

Qmail performance statistics

1999-04-28 Thread Fred Lindberg
Hi, Has anyone for fun taken a high-end machine and produced the type of statistics that www.lsoft.com is presenting for lsmtp (http://www.lsoft.com/lsmtp.html)? They are obviously geared towards overestimation, but it would be useful for comparison. I realize that qmail is currently limited to a

Re: qmail Performance question

1999-03-23 Thread Russell Nelson
Markus Stumpf writes: > On Tue, Mar 23, 1999 at 12:02:32AM +0100, Peter van Dijk wrote: > > really work, the mailclient should check pop mail as often as possible. > > PLEZ ... be careful with that. > We have customers that have a leased line but we manage their Mailboxes (POP3). >

Re: qmail Performance question

1999-03-23 Thread Markus Stumpf
On Tue, Mar 23, 1999 at 12:02:32AM +0100, Peter van Dijk wrote: > really work, the mailclient should check pop mail as often as possible. PLEZ ... be careful with that. We have customers that have a leased line but we manage their Mailboxes (POP3). Sometimes they receive a "really big" Ma

RE: qmail Performance question

1999-03-23 Thread Van Liedekerke Franky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: qmail Performance question > > > > > On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I recently converted to qmail (from Netscape's Novonyx) using Maildir, > > tcp-server smtp and qmail-pop3d. The client PC's a

Re: qmail Performance question

1999-03-22 Thread Peter Gradwell
At 12:02 am +0100 23/3/99,the wonderful Peter van Dijk wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 1999 at 10:35:28PM +, Peter Gradwell wrote: >> At 9:16 pm + 22/3/99,the wonderful Russell Nelson wrote: >> > >> > >> > Then tell them to poll the pop3 server every zero minutes. >> >> you would be wise to do it

Re: qmail Performance question

1999-03-22 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Mon, Mar 22, 1999 at 10:35:28PM +, Peter Gradwell wrote: > At 9:16 pm + 22/3/99,the wonderful Russell Nelson wrote: > > > > > > Then tell them to poll the pop3 server every zero minutes. > > you would be wise to do it every 1 minute, if they are using Eudora, > they will never see the

Re: qmail Performance question

1999-03-22 Thread Peter Gradwell
At 9:16 pm + 22/3/99,the wonderful Russell Nelson wrote: > > > Then tell them to poll the pop3 server every zero minutes. you would be wise to do it every 1 minute, if they are using Eudora, they will never see their mail :( peter. -- peter at gradwell dot com; online @ http://www.gradwel

Re: qmail Performance question

1999-03-22 Thread Scott Schwartz
| There is a Netscape setting to check for mail every 15 minutes, I'll change that | to every minute and see if that changes their perception. Why, oh why, do popular mail readers insist on polling? Transmitting small authenticated messages to signed-on users was a solved problem 10 years ago wi

RE: qmail Performance question

1999-03-22 Thread Rick_Rufini
On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I recently converted to qmail (from Netscape's Novonyx) using Maildir, > tcp-server smtp and qmail-pop3d. The client PC's are either Windows NT or 95 > using Netscape Communicator as the mail user agent (pop3). It takes considerably > longer for t

Re: qmail Performance question

1999-03-22 Thread Russell Nelson
Asmodeus writes: > On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I recently converted to qmail (from Netscape's Novonyx) using Maildir, > > tcp-server smtp and qmail-pop3d. The client PC's are either Windows NT or 95 > > using Netscape Communicator as the mail user agent (pop3). It take

Re: qmail Performance question

1999-03-22 Thread Asmodeus
On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I recently converted to qmail (from Netscape's Novonyx) using Maildir, > tcp-server smtp and qmail-pop3d. The client PC's are either Windows NT or 95 > using Netscape Communicator as the mail user agent (pop3). It takes considerably > longer for the

qmail Performance question

1999-03-22 Thread Rick_Rufini
Greetings, I recently converted to qmail (from Netscape's Novonyx) using Maildir, tcp-server smtp and qmail-pop3d. The client PC's are either Windows NT or 95 using Netscape Communicator as the mail user agent (pop3). It takes considerably longer for the clients to "get messages" from the serve

Re: Solaris and qmail-remote (was: RE: increasing qmail performance)

1999-01-22 Thread Dax Kelson
I believe Dan said that under solaris the resolver library is statically linked only. On 22 Jan 1999, D. J. Bernstein wrote: > Andrew Richards writes: > > As someone looking at using Qmail on Solaris, what is the issue with > > Solaris alluded to above? > > Solaris fritters away quite a bit of

Re: Solaris and qmail-remote (was: RE: increasing qmail performance)

1999-01-22 Thread Russ Allbery
D J Bernstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Andrew Richards writes: >> As someone looking at using Qmail on Solaris, what is the issue with >> Solaris alluded to above? > Solaris fritters away quite a bit of memory in each networking process. > This limits the number of simultaneous processes th

Re: Solaris and qmail-remote (was: RE: increasing qmail performance)

1999-01-22 Thread D. J. Bernstein
Andrew Richards writes: > As someone looking at using Qmail on Solaris, what is the issue with > Solaris alluded to above? Solaris fritters away quite a bit of memory in each networking process. This limits the number of simultaneous processes that you can run. ---Dan

Re: Solaris and qmail-remote (was: RE: increasing qmail performance)

1999-01-22 Thread Anand Buddhdev
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 12:20:18PM -, Andrew Richards wrote: > >>BSD can handle a concurrency of 255 in one qmail-send process, though > >>...snip... > >Yes. Since you're not using Solaris you should be able to fit a huge > >number of qmail-remote processes into 128MB. Make sure to compile >

Solaris and qmail-remote (was: RE: increasing qmail performance)

1999-01-21 Thread Andrew Richards
>>BSD can handle a concurrency of 255 in one qmail-send process, though >>...snip... >Yes. Since you're not using Solaris you should be able to fit a huge >number of qmail-remote processes into 128MB. Make sure to compile >everything statically. >---Dan Hi, As someone looking at using Qmail on