Re: [q] WTB: 840av dual drive caddy-sled

2005-02-04 Thread Jeff Walther
At 15:30 -0500 02/04/2005, Quadlist wrote: From: "Casolai !" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [q] WTB: 840av dual drive caddy-sled Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 23:01:00 -0700 I'm looking for the caddy thing that lets two drives be mounted on top each other in the bottom bay on the 84

[q] WTB: 840av dual drive caddy-sled

2005-02-03 Thread Casolai !
I'm looking for the caddy thing that lets two drives be mounted on top each other in the bottom bay on the 840av. Anybody have one for sale ? -- Quadlist is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Cano

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-09 Thread Stephen Alexander
I actually did remove the card completely when I tested it on the onboard video (and reseated it after) but I will look into rasterops configuration, thanks for the tip! Cheers, Stephen On Sunday 09 May 2004 20:22, Tina Holm wrote: > At 19:09 -0500 09/05/04, Stephen Alexander wrote: > >I think

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-09 Thread Tina Holm
At 19:09 -0500 09/05/04, Stephen Alexander wrote: I think I am going to give up on this one... You should at least try reseating the graphics card. Had an old Radius card way back, that required holding the "t" key down to configure to the monitor and the Mac. Don't know if there's an obscure ke

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-09 Thread Stephen Alexander
I think I am going to give up on this one... I'm betting on the last one at this point. I'm going to see about trying it with my trusty old 12" monochrome, but beyond that I think it's a lost cause. I didn't try reseating RAM but I am going to guess that it's a dead logic board based on the fact

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-09 Thread John Kamimura
base. Cheers, Stephen On Sunday 09 May 2004 12:33, John Kamimura wrote: > I'm guessing that it is hard drive/OS problem if everything has checked out > OK. > > Do you have a spare SCSI drive with a universal MacOS installed to take > with you to try with the 840AV? Or better y

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-09 Thread Stephen Alexander
uessing that it is hard drive/OS problem if everything has checked out > OK. > > Do you have a spare SCSI drive with a universal MacOS installed to take > with you to try with the 840AV? Or better yet a bootable CD-ROM? Maybe an > old copy of Norton Utilities... > > Since the S

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-09 Thread John Kamimura
I'm guessing that it is hard drive/OS problem if everything has checked out OK. Do you have a spare SCSI drive with a universal MacOS installed to take with you to try with the 840AV? Or better yet a bootable CD-ROM? Maybe an old copy of Norton Utilities... Since the SuperMac(? -

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-09 Thread Scott Holder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i run one as a server i am actually typing this on it it is my main web/email server as well as for ssh connections. anyways i just leave a keyboard plugged into it with a penny and a dime on the power key to make it turn on in case of power outages. it works marvelously

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-09 Thread Stephen Alexander
And then he read the email that said the KB's not an issue... On Sunday 09 May 2004 07:03, Stephen Alexander wrote: > Cables are all connected, the HD and PS fan spin no problem. There is no > boot noise and no video. I am going to follow up the previous suggestion > when I get a chance and attach

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-09 Thread Stephen Alexander
s hosed or the disk > is damaged. No - HD could be unplugged or dead. > > Might want to poke around inside and investigate a little further to see if > all cables are connected, etc. > > The 840 is a great little computer. Might be a good buy just for the parts >

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-08 Thread setient
it. On Sun, 9 May 2004, Scott Holder wrote: > Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 02:53:34 -0400 > From: Scott Holder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions > >

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-08 Thread Scott Holder
Ken wrote: - I believe the machine is one of those that "needs" the power switch on the keyboard to start it up. Ken It's not. I run one as a server without a keyboard or mouse attached, it starts up fine from the front button. Although I've about broken my button off the logic boar

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-08 Thread John Kamimura
around inside and investigate a little further to see if all cables are connected, etc. The 840 is a great little computer. Might be a good buy just for the parts so that when you find the working 840AV :-) Good luck J >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/08/04 19:00 PM >>> Thanks for t

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-08 Thread macsonly
slaps hi s head that the 950 that needs a key. better get to bed before checking mouth for shoe size some more tonight. :>( charles Stephen Alexander wrote: > > Thanks for the tip, I will try again. I'm just dying to give my wife the > opportunity to kill me for bringing home another obsolete com

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-08 Thread macsonly
is the in the machine? iirc i believe the key has to be turned right position. Ken wrote: > > My Reply follows quote. On 08/05/2004 17:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > >Hi y'all, new to the list. > > > >I have a quick question regarding a Q840AV I ran across in a local goodwill > >store. I haven't

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-08 Thread Ken
My Reply follows quote. On 08/05/2004 19:02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >Thanks for the tip, I will try again. I'm just dying to give my wife the >opportunity to kill me for bringing home another obsolete computer (at least >it's better than the NetBSD-IIsi). > >Anyone got a particular resource wi

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-08 Thread Stephen Alexander
Thanks for the tip, I will try again. I'm just dying to give my wife the opportunity to kill me for bringing home another obsolete computer (at least it's better than the NetBSD-IIsi). Anyone got a particular resource with a collection of this kind of info that I should know about? Cheers, St

Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-08 Thread Ken
My Reply follows quote. On 08/05/2004 17:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >Hi y'all, new to the list. > >I have a quick question regarding a Q840AV I ran across in a local goodwill >store. I haven't bought it yet because of the following: I plugged it and >the >monitor (a rasterops w/rasterops nubu

[q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

2004-05-08 Thread Stephen Alexander
Hi y'all, new to the list. I have a quick question regarding a Q840AV I ran across in a local goodwill store. I haven't bought it yet because of the following: I plugged it and the monitor (a rasterops w/rasterops nubus card) and turned everything on. It didn't boot, just gave me LEDs on monito

Re: OS 7.1 in ROM on Q660AV/840AV?

2003-09-28 Thread Scott Holder
At 01:36 AM 9/28/2003, you wrote: In my search for answers to my VRAM questions I downloaded the Apple document, "Centris_660AV_Quadra_840AV.pdf" On page xxiii under the heading "Software Overview" it states, "The Macintosh Quadra 840AV and Macintosh Centri

OS 7.1 in ROM on Q660AV/840AV?

2003-09-27 Thread Jeff Walther
In my search for answers to my VRAM questions I downloaded the Apple document, "Centris_660AV_Quadra_840AV.pdf" On page xxiii under the heading "Software Overview" it states, "The Macintosh Quadra 840AV and Macintosh Centris 660AV are supplied with essentially

Re Quadra 840av

2003-08-14 Thread Adam Dunn
Hello there, Sounds like three possibilities. In order of probability : - (1) No system software othe hard drives. Try launching from CD and then load MacOS on one of the drives IF there is none present. (2) The PRAM battery is Caput! Get a new one (preferably NOT by ebay, they tend to be t

Re: Quadra 840AV

2003-08-12 Thread Sque
d the capasitors? I hope that gives you something to try out and appears slightly logical. ;) Best of luck, a $5 840av would be a very nice pickup. Cheers -- Quadlist is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | --

Re: Quadra 840AV

2003-08-11 Thread Sque
Sque wrote: Ken wrote: Pulled logic board and reseated all RAM. Pulled dead PRAM battery, waited 15 min and installed good battery. Pulling the battery while the unit has a mains connection is a self defeating test. In some cases (ppc is my only experience so far) the mains and battery shoul

Quadra 840AV

2003-08-10 Thread Ken
Picked one of these today and brought it home to play with (for $5.00, why not?!). Opened it up and found two hard drives, both unplugged. One has an Apple sticker, the other does not. The Apple drive is a Quantum ProDrive, 230MB. The other is a Seagate Lightning of unknown capacity. Plugged th

Re: 840av and daystar 601?

2003-02-18 Thread the pickle
At 20:42 -0400 on 18/02/03, Jason White wrote: >>>The various ppc upgrades for Quadra do not list 840av. Does it NOT work >>>in that model? Any way to use it even if not intended for that machine?- >Dick > >Doesn't this model use an 8100 motherboard to get it

Re: 840av and daystar 601?

2003-02-18 Thread Jason White
>>The various ppc upgrades for Quadra do not list 840av. Does it NOT work >>in that model? Any way to use it even if not intended for that machine?- Dick Doesn't this model use an 8100 motherboard to get it up to PPC status? Kinda new to Quadras, don't bank on this.

Re: 840av and daystar 601?

2003-02-18 Thread the pickle
At 18:52 -0500 on 18/02/03, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The various ppc upgrades for Quadra do not list 840av. Does it NOT work >in that model? Any way to use it even if not intended for that machine?- Dick Respectively, no, and no. There's nothing to plug it into. -- the

840av and daystar 601?

2003-02-18 Thread rhouse23
The various ppc upgrades for Quadra do not list 840av. Does it NOT work in that model? Any way to use it even if not intended for that machine?- Dick -- Quadlist is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | --

Re: Quadra 840AV startup problem

2003-02-05 Thread Dan Palka
I've noticed that my G3 has begun to take a very long time to start as well. 5 minutes, even if I do a restart from the pull down menu. 5 minutes no matter what. and 5 minutes of just a gray screen, with nothing. Then it comes to a folder with a blinking question mark for about 20 seconds,

Re: Quadra 840AV startup problem

2003-02-05 Thread E McCann
No updates or anything lately? Has it been moved? I had (have) an 840 that did the same thing (sort of) - except it would sit for about 15-20 minutes, give a "crash" chime o' doom, then restart / start up normally after that. I recall replacing the PRAM, giving the cables a good re-attaching, a

Re: Quadra 840AV startup problem

2003-02-05 Thread Clark Martin
At 1:13 PM -0600 2/5/2003, debkmaillist wrote: >[cross-posted to the MacAV list] >Hi, >My mom has had a Quadra 840AV for about 4 years. It has worked fine >for her basic needs -- mostly email and AppleWorks, some Photoshop 3. >It has 56mb RAM, a 2gb HD, runs OSv8.1 >During t

Quadra 840AV startup problem

2003-02-05 Thread debkmaillist
[cross-posted to the MacAV list] Hi, My mom has had a Quadra 840AV for about 4 years. It has worked fine for her basic needs -- mostly email and AppleWorks, some Photoshop 3. It has 56mb RAM, a 2gb HD, runs OSv8.1 During the past few months, it has begun taking longer and longer to boot

Re: Software piracy [was 840av]

2003-01-20 Thread Clark Martin
At 2:48 AM -0500 1/20/2003, Scott Holder wrote: >As far as I know, in the case where the copyright holder truly doesn't >exist any longer and wasn't just bought by someone else (thereby >transferring the copyrights in most cases), it would then be legal to >distribute it. But remember, a company

Re: Software piracy [was 840av]

2003-01-20 Thread E McCann
At 11:36 PM 1/19/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed thusly: >On this note, does anyone know the legalities of abandoned software? Is there >an inventory anywhere of what software is legally abandoned? Also, what is >the legality of software where the co. that produced it is no more, hence >it is not av

Re: Software piracy [was 840av]

2003-01-20 Thread Scott Holder
At 02:54 AM 1/20/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Probably not unless and until the owner had officially "published" a release. > >See PCSetup 2.0's release, for an example. As near as I can tell, PCSetup 2.0 is a case of the original company being bought out, plus having a license from Apple. It's clear

Re: Software piracy [was 840av]

2003-01-19 Thread PeterH5322
In a message dated 1/19/03 11:50:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << As far as I know, in the case where the copyright holder truly doesn't exist any longer and wasn't just bought by someone else (thereby transferring the copyrights in most cases), it would then be legal to distribute it. >> P

Re: Software piracy [was 840av]

2003-01-19 Thread Scott Holder
At 08:36 AM 1/20/2003 +0100, you wrote: >On this note, does anyone know the legalities of abandoned software? Is there >an inventory anywhere of what software is legally abandoned? Also, what is >the legality of software where the co. that produced it is no more, hence >it is not available? > >Than

Re: Software piracy [was 840av]

2003-01-19 Thread mriscott
> >Software companies don't want either of those things to happen, as it means > >the recipient of the second-hand software is not going to bother buying new > >software from the software companies. I'm not going to be a hypocrit and > > Which is a load of horsepucky, because most of the time tha

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread zhmmy harper
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) Subject: Re: 840av Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:42:00 -0500 At 12:31 -0600 on 19/01/03, zhmmy harper wrote: >Because people here sell and swap all kinds of stuff, not just quad. No. They don't. If you think they d

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread E McCann
with a suggested bit of software. Didn't do anything wrong. *shrug* And despite Pickle's reaction, it didn't turn into a Flat-Panel-Imac, G4, Non-Quadra Lovefest. Chance to? Sure. Did it? No. Now, pulling this further into 840AV-land... well, we'll save that for the next post.

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread Paul Stamsen
At 12:31 -0600, 1/19/03, (zhmmy harper) observed: Because people here sell and swap all kinds of stuff, not just quad. If you can't stick with the list rules you will get banned. Now take it to the right list, last warning! -- Paul (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) "the ^±^ weasel" QuadList

Off Topic/Off Quadra posting (was 840av)

2003-01-19 Thread Paul Stamsen
At 13:15 -0500, 1/19/03, (the pickle) observed: At 12:12 -0600 on 19/01/03, zhmmy harper wrote: No, but it will on my G4. THEN WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT IT HERE? -- He has a point. Time to wake up folks!, Paul (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) "the ^±^ weasel" QuadList & PCI PowerM

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread the pickle
At 13:47 -0600 on 19/01/03, Jack Gallemore wrote: >Additionally, she was using a piece of equipment that I have used on a >newer machine with the same results that she was experiencing. I >didn't realize this list was limited to only experiences on Quadras, >but rather to help people who are havi

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread Jack Gallemore
Additionally, she was using a piece of equipment that I have used on a newer machine with the same results that she was experiencing. I didn't realize this list was limited to only experiences on Quadras, but rather to help people who are having problems with Quadras. I've been in the computi

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread victoria Duggan
> I think part of the reason this came up was that in her initial post, she > mentioned the files going "over ethernet" to another machine with a CD(or > was it DVD, don't recall at the moment) burner which means she either > has an upgraded mac, a newer mac, or a PC, all of which are probably

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread E McCann
At 09:46 AM 1/19/2003, the pickle typed thusly: >At 09:41 -0800 on 19/01/03, James S Jones wrote: > > >Quadra, Quadra, Quadra! This is the Quadlist, not the G-List, X4U, or > >the Eagle Scout attorney-badge list. > >It's about damn time someone else realised this. Thanks, James. I think part of

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread the pickle
At 12:31 -0600 on 19/01/03, zhmmy harper wrote: >Because people here sell and swap all kinds of stuff, not just quad. No. They don't. If you think they do after all the discussion in the last 24 hours about HOW THIS IS NOT REMOTELY RELEVANT, then you - and I mean this in the most polite way pos

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread zhmmy harper
Because people here sell and swap all kinds of stuff, not just quad. Original Message Follows From: the pickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) Subject: Re: 840av Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:15:53 -0500 At 12

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread the pickle
At 12:12 -0600 on 19/01/03, zhmmy harper wrote: >No, but it will on my G4. THEN WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT IT HERE? -- the pickle FAQ _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by and

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread zhmmy harper
No, but it will on my G4. I'm not using my Q950 for A/V--too slow. Original Message Follows From: the pickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) Subject: Re: 840av Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:01:16 -0500

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread the pickle
At 11:55 -0600 on 19/01/03, zhmmy harper wrote: >Oh, ok, you bought a Divideon? I'm glad you pointed me there because they >really sound great and I'll probably get one. Thanks. Do those work on Quads? -- the pickle FAQ

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread zhmmy harper
]> (Quadlist) Subject: Re: 840av Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 08:31:09 -0600 On Saturday, January 18, 2003, at 09:09 PM, zhmmy harper wrote: > I got out of the loop. You had one what for your Flat Panel Mac? > What did > you ship back? What is a Formac Studio? Thanks. > > I

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread the pickle
At 09:41 -0800 on 19/01/03, James S Jones wrote: >Quadra, Quadra, Quadra! This is the Quadlist, not the G-List, X4U, or >the Eagle Scout attorney-badge list. It's about damn time someone else realised this. Thanks, James. -- the pickle FAQ _

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread the pickle
At 16:07 -0600 on 18/01/03, zhmmy harper wrote: >Software companies don't want either of those things to happen, as it means >the recipient of the second-hand software is not going to bother buying new >software from the software companies. I'm not going to be a hypocrit and Which is a load of h

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread James S Jones
to you. There are several good articles on the 840AV and its capabilities on . Search for 840AV. There is also a web site devoted to the AV Macs at UC Berkeley: <http://www.sims.berkeley.edu/~jwang/cgi/av-faq>. And, there is a mail list devoted exclusively to AV Mac issues, [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread Mark Benson
deo. > > I just choose the one I have my device plugged into. My only question > was is > there a faster one because my 840AV is rendered useless whilst doing > video. I'm afraid that fact it is only a 68040/40MHz means, despite the AT&T 66.7MHz DSP chip, that it need

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread Mark Benson
My advice is that if you have an iMac or something for burning or even a 604e PowerMac that you capture raw files on the 840av and then copy them over ethernet to the better machine and compress them on there. The time is probably comparable to what it takes to compress MPEG on an 840av, and

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread Jack Gallemore
me two control panels, video and video selection with s-video > /stero/ video. > > I just choose the one I have my device plugged into. My only question > was is > there a faster one because my 840AV is rendered useless whilst doing > video. > > > -- > Quadlist is sponso

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread Jack Gallemore
On Saturday, January 18, 2003, at 09:09 PM, zhmmy harper wrote: > I got out of the loop. You had one what for your Flat Panel Mac? > What did > you ship back? What is a Formac Studio? Thanks. > > I had one for my Flat Panel Mac.Never got the video and audio to > sync. Froze my 9.2.2 and

Re: 840av

2003-01-19 Thread victoria.duggan
because my 840AV is rendered useless whilst doing video. -- Quadlist is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread zhmmy harper
Amen. Original Message Follows From: E McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) Subject: Re: 840av Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:51:59 -0800 At 02:07 PM 1/18/2003, zhmmy harper typed thusly: >off as

Re: Netiquette was Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread Sque
Randy Beaudreault wrote: >P. S. Sorry for posting all of the irrelevant stuff but I want to >illustrate a point. > Whats your point, bottom posting sucks? You do know that a warning to the poster should be sent offlist as a friendly reminder? Hopefully you'll get one too. Meanwhile I dont get a

Netiquette was Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread Randy Beaudreault
gt; > > > Original Message Follows > > From: "victoria.duggan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) > > Subject: Re: 840av > > Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:5

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread Robert Gray
> I'm no saint, I've [pirated] before but now I am a working man > I refuse to scab any longer. I had no option before, I do now. Know what you mean. I hate it when they put that gun to my head and scream, "DO IT!" ;-) There's almost always an option. -- Quadlist is sponsored by

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread E McCann
At 01:59 PM 1/18/2003, victoria.duggan typed thusly: >First sorry for starting this topic but no-one has answered my question >yet!!! > > >Whats the best software (that will run on my 840AV) > >For doing videos and sending them to a burner via ethernet I am using apple

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread E McCann
At 02:07 PM 1/18/2003, zhmmy harper typed thusly: >off as something other than what it is. Life is too short for that. Just >do it and quit pretending you are sanctimonious. As this conversation has lost any redeeming value, I offer you one last word. *PLONK.* -- Quadlist is sponsored by <

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread zhmmy harper
lligent by now. If you have any > suggestions that will help me hook it up correctly to get the software > to > work then I can report on it. > > Original Message Follows > From: "victoria.duggan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROT

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread J.M.P.Hissel
On 19-01-2003 1:33, Robert Gray, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: >> You cannot copy hardware (cars, computers etc.) >> like you can copy software. > > Maybe you weren't around during the days of Mac and IBM clones. 59 yrs. old enough?? My experience with computers started in July 1963 (so nearly 40 yr

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread Jack Gallemore
I can report on it. > > Original Message Follows > From: "victoria.duggan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) > Subject: Re: 840av > Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:59:56 + >

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread Michael Emery
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Whats the best software (that will run on my 840AV)... I guess you're concerned with rendering speed. Most all of the available titles work well enough. Some are easier to use, such as QuickTime Pro v4.03; I would not even know how you could get this lega

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread Robert Gray
> You cannot copy hardware (cars, computers etc.) > like you can copy software. Maybe you weren't around during the days of Mac and IBM clones. Luxury vehicles might provide sufficient profit margin for cloning were it not for copyright/patent laws. > Selling software is a different piece of

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread Robert Gray
At 15:37:57 -0600 on 01/18/03, "zhmmy harper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >That isn't complicated at all is it? What if you don't accept money >for it or the software? What if you lend it to a friend? What are >all the rights and wrongs of this social dillemma? You're right it isn't that compli

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread zhmmy harper
PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) Subject: Re: 840av Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:59:56 + First sorry for starting this topic but no-one has answered my question yet!!! Whats the best software (that will run on my 840AV) For doing videos and sending them to a burner via e

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread zhmmy harper
ECTED]> (Quadlist) Subject: Re: 840av Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 12:10:16 + On Saturday, Jan 18, 2003, at 03:59 Europe/London, zhmmy harper wrote: > Same all same, except people who sell their software are accepting > payment > for the license that rightfully belongs to the softwar

Yin and Yang (was 840av)

2003-01-18 Thread Paul Stamsen
, plain stupid to *advertise* your sins. And if you do it on this list after fair warning, one of the nannies will ban you. Now can we get back to discussing Victoria's 840av question? At 16:07 -0600, 1/18/03, (zhmmy harper) observed: > Software companies don't want either of

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread zhmmy harper
I believe it is 8.1, same as the limit on my Q950. To be sure go to apple.com/support and keyword 840av. And please, nobody complain about going to apple.com support. That's their job. Original Message Follows From: "victoria.duggan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread J.M.P.Hissel
On 18-01-2003 10:02, E McCann, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: > You put time and money into creating *something.* Car, computer, program, > whatever. Somebody buys it. Do you *care* if they sell it to someone else > after they're done with it? No, you've been paid for it. Sorry but I don't agree: 1) Y

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread zhmmy harper
ROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) Subject: Re: 840av Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 01:02:12 -0800 At 07:59 PM 1/17/2003, zhmmy harper typed thusly: >Same all same, except people who sell their software are accepting payment >for th

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread victoria.duggan
First sorry for starting this topic but no-one has answered my question yet!!! Whats the best software (that will run on my 840AV) For doing videos and sending them to a burner via ethernet I am using apple video player for the video's at the moment but it is slow. Victoria. -- Quadli

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread zhmmy harper
urself for being a bad boy. Just do it and forget the guilt pains. Original Message Follows From: Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) Subject: Re: 840av Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:56:58 + On S

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread zhmmy harper
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) Subject: Re: 840av Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:37:08 -0500 > Same all same, except people who sell their software are accepting > payment for the license that rightfully belongs to the software > producer. Which

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread Mark Benson
On Saturday, Jan 18, 2003, at 15:37 Europe/London, Robert Gray wrote: >> Same all same, except people who sell their software are accepting >> payment for the license that rightfully belongs to the software >> producer. Which is more "honorable" or ethical? > > As I understand it, only the ow

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread Robert Gray
> Same all same, except people who sell their software are accepting > payment for the license that rightfully belongs to the software > producer. Which is more "honorable" or ethical? As I understand it, only the owner of the copywrite has the right to sell a license; however, if it isn't fo

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread Paul Stamsen
At 1:02 -0800, 1/18/03, (E McCann) observed: OK, let's try explaining it this way... You put time and money into creating *something.* Car, computer, program, whatever. Somebody buys it. Do you *care* if they sell it to someone else after they're done with it? No, you've been paid for it

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread Mark Benson
On Saturday, Jan 18, 2003, at 03:59 Europe/London, zhmmy harper wrote: > Same all same, except people who sell their software are accepting > payment > for the license that rightfully belongs to the software producer. > Which is > more "honorable" or ethical? Probably doesn't matter anyway, b

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread Mark Benson
On Saturday, Jan 18, 2003, at 00:28 Europe/London, zhmmy harper wrote: > Hmm, I didn't know I was sinning because I'm new to this > site...however, > I've seen a lot of used software for sale here so far. Everyone seems > to do > it but I guess it's baad to talk about it. But I won't suggest

Re: 840av

2003-01-18 Thread E McCann
At 07:59 PM 1/17/2003, zhmmy harper typed thusly: >Same all same, except people who sell their software are accepting payment >for the license that rightfully belongs to the software producer. Which is >more "honorable" or ethical? OK, let's try explaining it this way... You put time and money

Re: 840av

2003-01-17 Thread Paul Stamsen
At 21:59 -0600, 1/17/03, (zhmmy harper) observed: Same all same, except people who sell their software are accepting payment for the license that rightfully belongs to the software producer. Which is more "honorable" or ethical? Probably doesn't matter anyway, but I do understand that i

Re: 840av

2003-01-17 Thread zhmmy harper
e. Whoops, did it again. Original Message Follows From: E McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) Subject: Re: 840av Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:49:58 -0800 At 04:28 PM 1/17/2003, zhmmy harper typed th

Re: 840av

2003-01-17 Thread E McCann
At 04:28 PM 1/17/2003, zhmmy harper typed thusly: >Hmm, I didn't know I was sinning because I'm new to this site...however, >I've seen a lot of used software for sale here so far. Everyone seems to do >it but I guess it's baad to talk about it. But I won't suggest Limewire >anymore. Used softwa

Re: 840av

2003-01-17 Thread E McCann
At 03:34 PM 1/17/2003, zhmmy harper typed thusly: >Look at Belkin USB VIDEOBUSII for Mac. Comes with install CD that includes >Strata VideoShop 4.5.1. You would need 8.6 and a USB to SCSI adaptor. A few problems here: 1. Quadra = no USB. 2. Quadra = no PCI to put a USB card in. 3. Quadra = no 8

Re: 840av

2003-01-17 Thread the pickle
At 18:28 -0600 on 17/01/03, zhmmy harper wrote: >Hmm, I didn't know I was sinning because I'm new to this site...however, >I've seen a lot of used software for sale here so far. Everyone seems to do Used software is 1) not typically sold here (for-sale posts are allowed once per year per subscr

Re: 840av

2003-01-17 Thread zhmmy harper
From: the pickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) Subject: Re: 840av Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:47:40 -0500 At 17:34 -0600 on 17/01/03, zhmmy harper wrote: >Look at Belkin USB VIDEOBUSII for Mac. Comes with inst

Re: 840av

2003-01-17 Thread the pickle
At 17:34 -0600 on 17/01/03, zhmmy harper wrote: >Look at Belkin USB VIDEOBUSII for Mac. Comes with install CD that includes >Strata VideoShop 4.5.1. You would need 8.6 and a USB to SCSI adaptor. And that's gonna work on a Quad how? >OR..Find Strata VideoShop 4.5.1 somewhere--maybe download fro

Re: 840av

2003-01-17 Thread zhmmy harper
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Quadlist) Subject: 840av Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 22:07:54 + Hi all I have just found the wonders of editing video on my 840av I am currently using system 8.1 and apple video player But is there

840av

2003-01-17 Thread victoria.duggan
Hi all I have just found the wonders of editing video on my 840av I am currently using system 8.1 and apple video player But is there anything better and quicker than this as a 10min video is takeing 1hr to compress and render for mpeg viewing. Victoria. -- Quadlist is sponsored by <h

Re: Quadra 840AV???

2003-01-15 Thread SimPanda
I've had in a long time. I was certain I'd irreparably damaged the motherboard somehow. > The problem of Nancy I guess is > getting a copy of a bootable CD or a diskette. > Luckily, I was able to get a set of original Quadra 840AV system disks on eBay, both the CD and the

Re: Quadra 840AV???

2003-01-15 Thread SimPanda
> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 00:45:13 -0800 > Subject: Re: Quadra 840AV > From: James S Jones > In-Reply-To: > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Itchy send finger syndrome strikes again. > > Since you're not getting a start up chime, but were when you found

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