Re: Dos Card

Guess I better find that "dongle" then... Thanks, RL = Robert Little Astronomy & Space Educator Talcott Mountain Science Center Avon, CT "I have loved the stars too dearly to be fearful of the night..." Sarah Williams "The Old Astronomer to His Pupil" __ Do y

Re: DOS Card In Quadra 650

In a message dated 9/22/03 5:42:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << You lost me somewhere. >> Not my intention. I simply identified every Apple DOS/PC card I am familar with. The Reply card is simply a Reply vended version of the Apple designed card >> This is not a G3 machine (far from it...

Re: DOS Card In Quadra 650

Peter, You lost me somewhere. This is not a G3 machine (far from it... remember, Quadlist?), just an ol' Quadra 650 with PDS. What does the "dongle" do, precisely? Are you saying that I need to wire a video out from the port on the back of the card? If so, any idea what the pinouts are? I am in pos

Re: DOS Card In Quadra 650 - Where's The PC Window?

There is no option to run a DOS card (6100 and some 68K PDS machines), a "DOS on a Mac" [ DOAM ] card (Reply, for 7100/8100/9150 PDS machines) or a PC Compatibility card (PCI Macs) without the appropriate "dongle". The DOAM card will not work with with a G3 PDS card whi

DOS Card In Quadra 650 - Where's The PC Window?

help! I've installed a DOS card from a gutted 6100 into a Quadra. I've never used one before. Since I do not have the "dongle" for the wee beastie, I figured I could just use the Mac monitor with PC running in a window. Well, it doesn't. It says that PC is running

Re: Needed: Houdini/DOS card!

slot. There is a Nubus slot adapter for the 660AV but they can be hard to find. of course the problem is that there was no Nubus DOS card made, they all go into the PDS slot. The DOS software that's to be run on it is actually Windows 95 (not really DOS, obviously) with some lower end as

Re: Needed: Houdini/DOS card!

In a message dated 5/31/03 7:40:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << By the way, thanks to those of you here who responded. I was worried that the DOS cards were getting scarce (based on how much that guy soaked me for!). >> Not scarce at all. Often as little as $10 on e-bone, and some New-in-B

Re: Needed: Houdini/DOS card!

John wrote - > Actually, the 6100 DOS card itself is almost > identical to the Houdini > and will work fine in a 610 or any other Quad with > an '040 PDS slot. > > The problem is the PDS adapter. The 6100 card comes > with an adapter > which converts the 6100 PDS

Re: Needed: Houdini/DOS card!

In a message dated 5/30/03 8:29:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << The problem is the PDS adapter. The 6100 card comes with an adapter which converts the 6100 PDS to an '040 one. To put the card in a 610, you need to take the DOS card off of the 6100 adapter and use the one inten

Re: Needed: Houdini/DOS card!

Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 13:30:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Needed: Houdini/DOS card! Howdy Y'all! Been bamboozled. Bought what was supposed to be a 610 DOS card... was a 6100 DOS card instead. Sold it to work, but still need a 610 DOS card for my Cent

Re: Needed: Houdini/DOS card!

on 5/29/03 5:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Useless without the "dongle". Send him one then, Oops, I have that too. -- All the best, R.A. Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Quadlist is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.small

Re: Needed: Houdini/DOS card!

I can probably hunt one up if you can't find one any other place. I'm almost sure I have a Centris with a DOS card in it. But I don't have any driver software. I will have to check to make sure, but I am pretty sure I do. Chuck > Howdy Y'all! > Been bamboozled. Bought

Re: Needed: Houdini/DOS card!

In a message dated 5/29/03 3:21:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I've got one. We'll need to check and make sure etc. But I'm confident that I have a Centris and a 6100, as I have two and they are different. >> Useless without the "dongle". -- Quadlist is sponsored by

Re: Needed: Houdini/DOS card!

on 5/29/03 3:30 PM, Robert Little at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Howdy Y'all! > Been bamboozled. Bought what was supposed to be a 610 > DOS card... was a 6100 DOS card instead. Sold it to > work, but still need a 610 DOS card for my Centris. > Anyone know a source? I'v

Needed: Houdini/DOS card!

Howdy Y'all! Been bamboozled. Bought what was supposed to be a 610 DOS card... was a 6100 DOS card instead. Sold it to work, but still need a 610 DOS card for my Centris. Anyone know a source? Thanks, Robert __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online cal

OT stuff which was DOS Card

At 20:22 -0800, 1/27/03, (Shroom) observed: On Monday, January 27, 2003, 18:11, you wrote: SH> At 01:17 PM 1/27/2003 +0200, you wrote: Actually, Win98 works quite normal on 32Mb Ram - as far as CPU is at least ~150-200 MHz. WBR, Artur SH> Just for kicks once, I tried Win98 on it's min

Re[3]: DOS Card

At 21:29 -0800 on 27/01/03, Shroom wrote: >SH> Anyway, this is getting a bit too off-topic, methinks, so I'll leave it at >SH> that. > >SH> Scott Holder > >Yes, I had got that (the basic idea). > >I was hoping someone who could understand more of the page in its >original language could tell us mo

Re[3]: DOS Card

On Monday, January 27, 2003, 20:55, you wrote: SH> At 08:22 PM 1/27/2003 -0800, you wrote: >>Speaking of minimum requirements for Win98, this seems appropriate: >> >>http://www.winhistory.de/more/386/386vers.htm >> >>Win98 running on a 386? >> >>Perhaps someone here who can read German can take

Re[2]: DOS Card

At 08:22 PM 1/27/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Speaking of minimum requirements for Win98, this seems appropriate: > >http://www.winhistory.de/more/386/386vers.htm > >Win98 running on a 386? > >Perhaps someone here who can read German can take a look... >It would be better than what I get from Web trans

Re[2]: DOS Card

On Monday, January 27, 2003, 18:11, you wrote: SH> At 01:17 PM 1/27/2003 +0200, you wrote: >>Actually, Win98 works quite normal on 32Mb Ram - as far as CPU is at >>least ~150-200 MHz. >> >>WBR, >>Artur SH> Just for kicks once, I tried Win98 on it's minimum requirement - a 486/66 SH> with 16 meg

Re: DOS Card

just as fine on a quad as it would on a quad with a dos card (maybe some of the newer macromedia plugins would work though) but its not even a full blown upgradeable PC so it somewhat defeats the purpose... if you really wanted to work from a quad, my personal choice would be go buy a pentium pro or

Re: DOS Card

At 01:17 PM 1/27/2003 +0200, you wrote: >Actually, Win98 works quite normal on 32Mb Ram - as far as CPU is at >least ~150-200 MHz. > >WBR, >Artur Just for kicks once, I tried Win98 on it's minimum requirement - a 486/66 with 16 megs of RAM. It ran, surprisingly okayishly. Upped the memory for 64

Re: DOS Card

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > DOS cards as found on 630 DOS Compatible Macs were limited to 32 MB > RAM. Try running Win98 in 32 MB RAM :-( Actually, Win98 works quite normal on 32Mb Ram - as far as CPU is at least ~150-200 MHz. WBR, Artur -- Quadlist is sponsored by a

Re: DOS Card

"Kyle Kinsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [ Win95 'USB patch' ] > My point was you didn;t have to install it, it was already there! Once again, no. You'll have to add it separately. > And you believe what microsoft says do you? In this particular case, yes. And in addition, I've tried to use va

Re: DOS Card

On 24 Jan 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > You could run Win95 (I used to) but I found there was also a > > (serious) limitation with this card. It's highest video display was > > 800 x 600 at 4bit resolution - 16 colors in total. Just pitiful. You > > could get 8bit color at 640 x 480 > > Did

Re: DOS Card

to install it, it was already there! Actually, yes, you did have to install it. It wasn't part of the default install. OTOH, it's not part of the DOS card, either, so... 98's somewhat more stable, 95 (if you can find the earlier versions without anything "integrated" - t

Re: DOS Card

At 13:16 +, 1/25/03, (Kyle Kinsey) observed: But look at the Subject: line - we're just speaking about 'what software might work on particular Macintosh hardware'! :-) But even then we've stretched a little! A nanny, I have no particular problem with this thread, it *is* tangential

Re: DOS Card

>DOS cards as found on 630 DOS Compatible Macs were limited to 32 MB >RAM. Try running Win98 in 32 MB RAM :-( Actually I run Win98SE on an old machine around here which has only 16mb. But then I am sick! ;-) Kyle Kinsey +- | eMail: [EMAIL PR

Re: DOS Card

>Excuse me, but it isn't really correct. The "support" essentially means, >that after installing so-called 'USB patch' (it must be installed >manually, BTW), in the Device Manager you'll see gray square labelled >'USB hub' instead of yellow question mark labelled 'Unknown PCI device'. >But you'll b

Re: DOS Card

"Kyle Kinsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Win98 is very similar to the Win95, but it isn't "just bug-fixed > >version" - there are some serious differencies in the kernel. For > >example, Win98 does have native (built-in) support for USB peripheral, > >and Win98SE - support for FireWire periph

Re: DOS Card

In a message dated 1/24/03 3:58:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << You could run Win95 (I used to) but I found there was also a (serious) limitation with this card. It's highest video display was 800 x 600 at 4bit resolution - 16 colors in total. Just pitiful. You could get 8bit color at 640 x

Re: DOS Card

On 23 Jan 2003, Artur Yelchishchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Kyle Kinsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >My bet is that 98 will work since it is just an "improvement" over > > >95and I bet that ME would run if you had a 586 with 64MB of RAM > > >(I'm guessing here), since ME is an "im

Re: DOS Card

>Hi Kyle, > >Win98 is very similar to the Win95, but it isn't "just bug-fixed >version" - there are some serious differencies in the kernel. For >example, Win98 does have native (built-in) support for USB peripheral, >and Win98SE - support for FireWire peripheral, unlike Win95. > Kind of depends

Re: DOS Card

"Kyle Kinsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >My bet is that 98 will work since it is just an "improvement" over > >95and I bet that ME would run if you had a 586 with 64MB of RAM > >(I'm guessing here), since ME is an "improved" 98. > > indeed 98 and 98se should both work being just 95+plus+i

Re: DOS Card

>In particular, the disk driver is simulated, and that simulation is >inadquate >for NT. and probably puts the win9x series into "compatability mode" right? Kyle Kinsey +- | eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Phone (Mobile): 07909 67 1986 | We

Re: DOS Card

>Actually, it is the way NT allows access to the system peripherals. NT >is supposed to simulate what called "protective mode" operations. If Not exactly "protected mode" is just the name of when 386 chips up run properly, "real mode" being silly 16bit mode. Though as an os is provides a secure

Re: DOS Card

> >I think it's due to it having to use BIOS calls to access the hard drive. NT uses BIOS calls or Win 95/98? John _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Quadl

Re: DOS Card

It is good to hear > that the DOS card makes up for the inadequacies of the pentium style of CPU. I think it's due to it having to use BIOS calls to access the hard drive. >> Correct. Although the PC Compatibility Card uses an Award BIOS, that BIOS is especially designed to interface

Re: DOS Card

gt; Using PCSetup, Win98 is supposed to be supported. NT never will be. >>> >> >> This is probably due to the fact that both Win 95/98 both use a >> different >> style of FAT (File Allocation Table) than NT which uses NTFS. NT is >> closer >> to a UNI

Re: DOS Card

probably due to the fact that both Win 95/98 both use a different > style of FAT (File Allocation Table) than NT which uses NTFS. NT is closer > to a UNIX based OS than DOS based and is more stable. It is good to hear > that the DOS card makes up for the inadequacies of the pentium s

Re: DOS Card

able) than NT which uses NTFS. NT is closer to a UNIX based OS than DOS based and is more stable. It is good to hear that the DOS card makes up for the inadequacies of the pentium style of CPU. John _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk

Re: DOS Card

>Negatory! > >DOS and Windows run better, and more reliably, on a MAC, than on a >gen-u-wine >PC. > >Seriously! > That changes my opinion of the DOS card from being a novelty. I assume it has something to do with how the instruction set is being used in the 680X0 styl

Re: DOS Card

At 06:45 PM 1/21/2003, Scott Holder typed thusly: >At 12:52 PM 1/21/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Well, my 640CD DOS runs Win95 fine, and would likely run 98. Haven't tried NT. Wasn't thinking of 95 (and haven't in years. ) I've seen statements saying flat out they do *not* run Linux, NT, or OS/2. (W

Re: DOS Card

In a message dated 1/21/03 6:48:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Well, my 640CD DOS runs Win95 fine, and would likely run 98. Haven't tried NT. >> Using PCSetup, Win98 is supposed to be supported. NT never will be. -- Quadlist is sponsored by and... Small Dog Elect

Re: DOS Card

At 12:52 PM 1/21/2003 -0800, you wrote: >A few versions I know of: >1. 486 on a PDS card (or adaptor, or "built in" with some sort of >extension, like the Performa 640CD.) These can, from what I read, *only* >run DOS. Something about how they access the disk and/or hardware - though >IIRC the Perf.

Re: DOS Card

In a message dated 1/21/03 5:14:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Sounds like a DOS card is more a novelty than a necessity as I have a PC also. >> Negatory! DOS and Windows run better, and more reliably, on a MAC, than on a gen-u-wine PC. Seriously! -- Quadlist is sponso

Re: DOS Card

In a message dated 1/21/03 3:03:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << What is a DOS card? The best I can understand is it is a way for a Mac to use an 80x86 processor. Is this correct? >> There are actually quite a few such cards, from Apple, Orange Micro and Reply. The Ap

Re: DOS Card

Sounds like a DOS card is more a novelty than a necessity as I have a PC also. _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- Quadlist is sponsored by

Re: DOS Card

At 03:03 AM 1/21/2003, J Sand typed thusly: >What is a DOS card? The best I can understand is it is a way for a Mac to >use an 80x86 processor. Is this correct? A few versions I know of: 1. 486 on a PDS card (or adaptor, or "built in" with some sort of extension, like th

Re: DOS Card

The one that I am familiar with (probably the oldest) is essentially a 286 self-contained on two interconnected nubus cards, complete with one whole meg of memory. When I had this installed in my quadra 700, I found it to be essentially useless. I mean it worked, but it wasn't good for anything.

Re: DOS Card

At 4:03 -0700 21/01/03, J Sand wrote: >What is a DOS card? The best I can understand is it is a way for a Mac to >use an 80x86 processor. Is this correct? A PC on a Nubus or PCI card, put it in your Mac, and you have both a Mac and a PC in the same box. Rather genious.

DOS Card

What is a DOS card? The best I can understand is it is a way for a Mac to use an 80x86 processor. Is this correct? John _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid

Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?

At 9:10 +1100 21/01/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >This page may be of interest for those wanting to try the 610 DOS >card in Quadras other than the original 610: > ><http://www.bme.unc.edu/~hope/linx/mac/dosmac.html> Ahh, there it was. The info about Q800 and the DOS card h

Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?

On 20 Jan 2003, "edjones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I once ran a PDS dos card in my Q650, and it worked just fine. > > The one problem was the cables. I have to use string to support the cable > from inside the machine, and feed it through an empty nubus slot.

Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?

Hi I once ran a PDS dos card in my Q650, and it worked just fine. The one problem was the cables. I have to use string to support the cable from inside the machine, and feed it through an empty nubus slot. Can't find copy of site where I got info how to do it again though. I did rem

Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?

At 12:39 -0500 19/01/03, the pickle replied: >I once saw a WWW page that had info about using one in a 650 Dug around my 1000 bookmarks, but can't find it either. Maybe you can find something in the DOS card faq here: http://homepage.mac.com/olivers/DOScard/DOScard.ht

Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?

At 11:17 -0800 on 19/01/03, E McCann wrote: >>At 19:26 -0800 on 17/01/03, Kris Jones wrote: >> >> >Unfortunately the card is '040 PDS. I've heard that the card can be used in >> >other '040s, which would fix everything since I also just purchased a Quadra >> >950 (I've wanted one since they came o

Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?

>At 19:26 -0800 on 17/01/03, Kris Jones wrote: > > >Unfortunately the card is '040 PDS. I've heard that the card can be used in > >other '040s, which would fix everything since I also just purchased a Quadra > >950 (I've wanted one since they came out!!!). I don't recall right offhand if it's th

Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?

<< Does anyone have any experience using one of these cards in something other than a Q610? >> The other versions of that card incorporate the very same card, but add an extender for the (single) connector, which extender also provides some mechanical support for the card. As the connectors a

Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?

At 21:22 -0500 on 18/01/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I'm not certain, but if it's a PDS slot, I think you can put an Apple IIe >compatibility card in it. Only if it's LC PDS, which the 040 PDS most certainly isn't. -- the pickle FAQ

Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?

At 19:26 -0800 on 17/01/03, Kris Jones wrote: >Unfortunately the card is '040 PDS. I've heard that the card can be used in >other '040s, which would fix everything since I also just purchased a Quadra >950 (I've wanted one since they came out!!!). > >Does anyone have any experience using one of th

Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?

I'm not certain, but if it's a PDS slot, I think you can put an Apple IIe compatibility card in it. -- Quadlist is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook

Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?

I bought a DOS Compatibility card with bracket for a Q610 on eBay recently, because I needed a Nubus adapter, so I thought I'd get the card for free. Unfortunately the card is '040 PDS. I've heard that the card can be used in other '040s, which would fix everything since I also just purchased a

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

on 17/5/02 7:27 pm, Dan Knight at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Joshua D. Braun writes: > >> I have a Performa 640 (with DOS card) and was looking to speed it up and >> turn it into a legacy port printing server. I could care less about the DOS >> card > > Ah, t

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

Joshua D. Braun writes: >I have a Performa 640 (with DOS card) and was looking to speed it up and >turn it into a legacy port printing server. I could care less about the DOS >card Ah, the soul of a true Mac user. We don't need no steenkin' Weendows! ;-) >1) What

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

At 04:33 PM 5/16/2002 -0400, you wrote: >At 16:09 -0400 on 16/05/02, Scott Holder wrote: > > >cards or a G3 upgrade. My mostly naked 6500 board works, though I once > >disassembled the case to stick a PCI video card vertically to flash the ROM > >to Mac and it still worked fine. > >Wait a sec. Yo

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

At 16:09 -0400 on 16/05/02, Scott Holder wrote: >cards or a G3 upgrade. My mostly naked 6500 board works, though I once >disassembled the case to stick a PCI video card vertically to flash the ROM >to Mac and it still worked fine. Wait a sec. You wanna clarify that a bit? :) the pickle FAQ

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

on 5/16/02 3:13 PM, the pickle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Re-read that. P600 = IIvx. P600 != P63x/640 :) PPC 7100/80 board should fit the form factor ( and have I got such a dill for you) -- All the best, R.A. Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Quadlist is sponsored by

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

At 16:06 -0400 on 16/05/02, Scott Holder wrote: >At 03:57 PM 5/16/2002 -0400, you wrote: >>While we're still on this subject, what non-68k logic board(s) could be >>stuffed inside of a Performa 600 case? > >As far as what fits, any [5/6]200, [5/6]300, [5/6]400, and [5/6]500 board. Re-read that.

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

At 15:57 -0400 on 16/05/02, Haroon wrote: >While we're still on this subject, what non-68k logic board(s) could be >stuffed inside of a Performa 600 case? Lessee...7100 most easily. Actually, pretty much anything onve you really start playing around. the pickle FAQ

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

At 03:57 PM 5/16/2002 -0400, you wrote: >While we're still on this subject, what non-68k logic board(s) could be >stuffed inside of a Performa 600 case? As far as what fits, any [5/6]200, [5/6]300, [5/6]400, and [5/6]500 board. As to what works, the x200 and x300 boards should work without issue

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

At 03:57 PM 5/16/2002 -0400, you wrote: >While we're still on this subject, what non-68k logic board(s) could be >stuffed inside of a Performa 600 case? As far as what fits, any [5/6]200, [5/6]300, [5/6]400, and [5/6]500 board. As to what works, the x200 and x300 boards should work without issue

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

While we're still on this subject, what non-68k logic board(s) could be stuffed inside of a Performa 600 case? -- Quadlist is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

At 09:22 -0500 on 16/05/02, Joshua D. Braun wrote: >You have all been very helpful. However, I was wondering what the difference >between 6400 and 6500 boards was that makes the 6400 incompatible? No one is entirely sure yet, but the most prevalent theory is that the Alchemy boards can't generat

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)

clock chip it to 40mhz, which wouldn't take much. > > No idea if the DOS card will still work if you do this. Anyone know? > >> about any of the 5200/5300/6200/6300 class boards, and if you don't put >> much on it, one of the 6400/6500/5400/5500 boards. I have mine at a

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

At 03:16 -0400 on 16/05/02, Craig Phillips wrote: >$$$ wise buy a powermac 7500-9600 or clone, and I say stay away from >the 7200. See http://lowendmac.net/best/index.shtml Best Used Mac Buys. What do those have to do with upgrading a 640 DOS? the pickle FAQ

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

$$$ wise buy a powermac 7500-9600 or clone, and I say stay away from the 7200. See http://lowendmac.net/best/index.shtml Best Used Mac Buys. -- Quadlist is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

>This was only stretching to 640X480, and I could tell that what I was seeing >was lower resolution than a TV broadcast, since I couldn't read the small >text on the screen. There was a real TV in the room, with a screen size >twice that of the PowerMac, but the picture was much clearer and less

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

>> I was watching TV on an all-in-one PowerMac today at school. While the >> video was filling the whole computer screen, it was obvious that the picture >> wasn't 640X480, but looked more like pixel-doubled 320X240. This made it >> very hard to read small text and make out details. I don't kno

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

#x27;ve never even seen one before ;). Anyway, I was right, in a round-about way. Upgrading to a Power Mac 5x00 or 6x00 will lose you your DOS card as there is nowhere (it would appear) to plug it into. -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_val

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

>I was watching TV on an all-in-one PowerMac today at school. While the >video was filling the whole computer screen, it was obvious that the picture >wasn't 640X480, but looked more like pixel-doubled 320X240. This made it >very hard to read small text and make out details. I don't know if al

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

At 01:07 AM 5/16/2002 +0100, you wrote: >This means that if you swap the logic board for that >of a 6x00 PowerMac you will lose you DOS card. I do know 6300/100 >logic boards work in a Performa 6x0 as I bought this one guaranteed >to work in a 630,6200 and 5200 from a guy who kno

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

>At 17:38 -0400 on 15/05/02, Scott Holder wrote: > >>Several options. You can clock chip it to 40mhz, which wouldn't take much. > >No idea if the DOS card will still work if you do this. Anyone know? > >>about any of the 5200/5300/6200/6300 class boards, and if yo

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

on 5/15/02 4:17 PM, Joshua D. Braun at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 3) If I upgrade to a new motherboard, is there still a capability to insert > a tuner card? Is this a cost effective way to not need a TV in a small > apartment? I was watching TV on an all-in-one PowerMac today at school. While

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

At 05:59 PM 5/15/2002 -0400, you wrote: >At 17:38 -0400 on 15/05/02, Scott Holder wrote: > > >Several options. You can clock chip it to 40mhz, which wouldn't take much. > >No idea if the DOS card will still work if you do this. Anyone know? Works fine. Mine is chipped to

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

At 17:38 -0400 on 15/05/02, Scott Holder wrote: >Several options. You can clock chip it to 40mhz, which wouldn't take much. No idea if the DOS card will still work if you do this. Anyone know? >about any of the 5200/5300/6200/6300 class boards, and if you don't put >muc

Re: Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

At 04:17 PM 5/15/2002 -0500, you wrote: >1) What are my best options to speed this machine up? (I¹ve heard either >replace DOS card with processor upgrade or do motherboard swap‹which is >better?) Several options. You can clock chip it to 40mhz, which wouldn't take much. If you do

Best path to upgrade Performa 640 (w/ DOS card)?

I have a Performa 640 (with DOS card) and was looking to speed it up and turn it into a legacy port printing server. I could care less about the DOS card... If there¹s a market, I¹ll sell it on Ebay, but... 1) What are my best options to speed this machine up? (I¹ve heard either replace DOS