I received the XS SaddleSack yesterday and just got around to opening
the box now. Wow! It's great. I was bummed that I failed to order the
orginial Keven's Bag and was reluctant to order the Nigel Symthe
version. I'm glad I waited and very glad I went with this model.
Although it's apparently lig
Well, it is not exactly like the bikes raced by Jacques Anquetil and
Eddy Merckx as it does not have down tube shifter braze ons. Per Mark
this is not an option either.
Too bad, as I have a store of older race parts I would like to put on
a frame with faster angles and lighter tubing but can nev
I hadn't noticed that it doesn't have DT shifter mounts. That's a
bummer. I hope they change their mind about that.
--mike
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Hi all,
I have an orange Rambouillet with a few nicks and scrapes. Some have
been touched up with nail polish by the previous owner, and some are
newer, showing the bare steel. I would like to redo the existing
touch up spots, and touch up the new nicks.
My concern is not so much aesthetic, bu
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:48 AM, JoelMatthews wrote:
>
> Well, it is not exactly like the bikes raced by Jacques Anquetil and
> Eddy Merckx as it does not have down tube shifter braze ons. Per Mark
> this is not an option either.
>
> Too bad, as I have a store of older race parts I would like to
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:48 AM, JoelMatthews wrote:
>>
>> Well, it is not exactly like the bikes raced by Jacques Anquetil and
>> Eddy Merckx as it does not have down tube shifter braze ons. Per Mark
>> this is not an option either.
>>
>> To
> Aren't band attached down tube mounts available?
Indeed there are.
However, I have two lovely NOS sets of Simplex braze on dt levers with
the sunburst (the older, harder to get in good NOS condition Simplex
levers), an NOS Simplex white plastic braze on set and two beautiful
NOS Campy Record b
Aren't band attached down tube mounts available? IIRC, many early steel frames
had cable guides and bottle holders attached by wrap around bands, not braze
ons, so this would not be that unusual.
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:48 AM, JoelMatthews wrote:
>>
>> Well, it is not exactly like the bikes
P.S. I just checked the rivbike website and noticed that they've
changed the previous statement pertaining to color choices.
Apparently any color that complements cream accents is now acceptable.
Jim
On Aug 28, 12:07 pm, Jim Cloud wrote:
> I'm not in the market for another bike, so any comments
I have been looking for the right frame for this type of bike for a
while. Lack of DT shifters among the new frames is unfortunately
almost across the board.
As Seth points out, DT are available on the Surly Pacer. Looks like a
nice frame but maybe too much a yeoman effort to match with the
ant
Got 'em on my '72 Cinelli:
http://campyonly.com/images/mystuff/2006/cinelli_6-10-06/IMG_0224_1000.jpg
--Eric Norris
Sent from my iPhone 3G*S*
On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Bruce wrote:
> Aren't band attached down tube mounts available? IIRC, many early
> steel frames had cable guides and bot
I'm sure the Roadeo will be a great bike but I think for a bike like
this I'd go with Mercian.
On Aug 28, 12:17 pm, Jim Cloud wrote:
> P.S. I just checked the rivbike website and noticed that they've
> changed the previous statement pertaining to color choices.
> Apparently any color that comple
> I'm sure the Roadeo will be a great bike but I think for a bike like
> this I'd go with Mercian.
Not a bad idea. Appears as though you could do the Vincitore for less
than a Roadeo. The Audax Special looks nice as well. Although if I
am reading the specs correctly, it will not accommodate a
Lovely Campy DT's to boot. Very nice.
On Aug 28, 2:43 pm, Eric wrote:
> Got 'em on my '72 Cinelli:
>
> http://campyonly.com/images/mystuff/2006/cinelli_6-10-06/IMG_0224_100...
>
> --Eric Norris
> Sent from my iPhone 3G*S*
>
> On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Bruce wrote:
>
>
>
> > Aren't band att
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:46 PM, JoelMatthews wrote:
>
>> I'm sure the Roadeo will be a great bike but I think for a bike like
>> this I'd go with Mercian.
>
> Not a bad idea. Appears as though you could do the Vincitore for less
> than a Roadeo. The Audax Special looks nice as well. Although i
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:37 AM, stevew wrote:
> 3. A small bottle of Testors paint seems like a decent way to go,
> although color match may be a problem. If I use Testor's, I want
> enamel paint, right? I would rather not get into spraying, which
> eliminates the Competition Orange, I think.
Yeah, downtube shifter mounts are disappearing. And if you find old
clamp-on downtube shifters, they probably won't work because most
steel downtubes these days use 1 1/4" tubing rather than 1 1/8".
The Soma Stanyan will take a 32mm tire, and has downtube shifter
mounts (and lugs!). Comes in any
More protovelo's are up for sale:
http://www.rivbike.com//#product=50-277
a 56 and 60 sam, now.
and in that cool dark blue.
-sv
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I'm not in the market for another bike, so any comments are simply
reflective of my own opinion. It seems strange to me that Grant, who
was always an exponent of not using shifting components that required
"system compatibility" has agreed to spec the Roadeo so that its braze-
on's are only reall
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Jim Cloud wrote:
>
> I'm not in the market for another bike, so any comments are simply
> reflective of my own opinion. It seems strange to me that Grant, who
> was always an exponent of not using shifting components that required
> "system compatibility" has agre
> Perhaps this lack of flexibility is reflective of what
> Waterford is willing to accept.
Waterford could be driving this. From their site it appears the only
frame offered with DT braze ons is the (actually rather attractive)
Hetchins Swallow Tribute touring bike. None of the Waterford road
r
Howdy folks.
Three things about this thread are jumping out at me. Other than both being
steel road bikes, there isn't much similarity between the Pacer and the
Roadeo (no offense intended to Seth :^). I am 99% sure the Roadeo will take
a much bigger tire, unless the Pacer has changed (it works
Steve, I think the term production is a little strained for bicycles
produced in a facility that still requires many hand operations by a
skilled craftman. These operations, I suspect, do not involve much
that would be common with a production operation in a modern factory
with robot welding, etc
Hi all-
Thought I'd delurk and put my 2 cents in about the Roadeo. I had the
pleasure of visiting RBWHQ&L a few weeks ago after a business trip to
the San Jose area. It turned out that Mark at Riv had just assembled
the Roadeo so it was a great opportunity for me since I am in the market
fo
Waterford makes the Boulder Bicycles frames and the three I've seen
all had d/t shifter mounts. So they do know how to do it!
Ryan
On Aug 28, 2009, at 13:18, JoelMatthews wrote:
>
>> Perhaps this lack of flexibility is reflective of what
>> Waterford is willing to accept.
>
> Waterford co
Are the geometry specs for the different sizes posted anywhere?
> From: "J. Douglas Way"
> Reply-To:
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:29:01 -0600
> To: "rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com"
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Press on BikeRadar.com
>
>
> Hi all-
>
> Thought I'd delurk and put my 2 cents
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 12:07 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote:
> I'm not in the market for another bike, so any comments are simply
> reflective of my own opinion. It seems strange to me that Grant, who
> was always an exponent of not using shifting components that required
> "system compatibility" has agre
Good points, but I think all of these questions come about precisely because
the cost of the production Riv is now only slightly less than many full
customs. So if there isn't a tiny bit of flexibility on Riv's part, I would
think many potential buyers will be tempted to spend just a little more t
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 15:10 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote:
> Steve, I think the term production is a little strained for bicycles
> produced in a facility that still requires many hand operations by a
> skilled craftman. These operations, I suspect, do not involve much
> that would be common with a prod
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 14:59 -0700, Doug Van Cleve wrote:
> Howdy folks.
>
> Three things about this thread are jumping out at me. Other than both
> being steel road bikes, there isn't much similarity between the Pacer
> and the Roadeo (no offense intended to Seth :^). I am 99% sure the
> Roadeo
> Waterford makes the Boulder Bicycles frames and the three I've seen
> all had d/t shifter mounts. So they do know how to do it!
Well, yeah. And their own Hetchins tribute has dt mounts.
I am guessing no option on the Roadeo and it would appear on
Waterford's own stock models (unless I am miss
I stopped at Riv HQ on my way home from work and tried the Roadeo.
It's a little small for me but still a very sweet bike. Light, nimble,
and tracks steady. It rides a lot like my Legolas 59, but even with a
Brooks saddle it is noticeably lighter to lift. If I hadn't bought one
of the last Legolas
Doug: I agree with the points you make. I am just a tad frustrated
as the Roadeo is so close to a bike I have in mind - even the stock
colors - but for one missing option. We dt people want in on the fun.
On Aug 28, 4:59 pm, Doug Van Cleve wrote:
> Howdy folks.
>
> Three things about this thr
> Are the geometry specs for the different sizes posted anywhere?
I hope they are. I would kind of like to swipe them ;)
On Aug 28, 5:54 pm, Dustin Sharp wrote:
> Are the geometry specs for the different sizes posted anywhere?
>
>
>
> > From: "J. Douglas Way"
> > Reply-To:
> > Date: Fri, 28
I find it hard to believe that not including the dt mounts is a simple
cost saving measure, as this isn't intended to be a budget frame. I
suspect that the primary reason is the dt bosses add weight, and that
there isn't enough demand for dt shifters to justify the extra couple
ounces or whatever
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:42 PM, JoelMatthews wrote:
>
> > Waterford makes the Boulder Bicycles frames and the three I've seen
> > all had d/t shifter mounts. So they do know how to do it!
>
The Gunnar Sport also made by Waterford has DT shifter mounts. I think
Waterford will make any bike wi
REI is selling all Continental tires at 25% off. Good time to stock
up on Ultra Gatorskins.
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Even running STI, I'd want DT bosses! It gives you barrel adjusters
within arms reach for a handy "adjust on the fly" when the shifting
goes a bit off.
Ryan
On Aug 28, 2009, at 19:35, JoelMatthews wrote:
>
> Doug: I agree with the points you make. I am just a tad frustrated
> as the Ro
Hello,
I'm cleaning house, and then moving to a smaller one so stuff has to
go!
Grip King Pedals - $30 Shipped
Nearly new, no major scrapes. A little dirt, but I'll tidy them up.
Paul Canti Levers - $60 Shipped
Silver levers with Black clamps. Most excellent shape. I have another
pair so this o
In-line barrel adjusters take care of that.
Jim
On Aug 28, 9:12 pm, Ryan Watson wrote:
> Even running STI, I'd want DT bosses! It gives you barrel adjusters
> within arms reach for a handy "adjust on the fly" when the shifting
> goes a bit off.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Aug 28, 2009, at 19:35, JoelMa
Hello,
I am trying to sell my wife's riv road- It has about 200 miles, campy record
brakes, t/a triple crank, chorus elsewhere, cris king HS Mavic Open Pro
wheel set. It is a Joe Bell painted bike in "split pea" and tusk.
Do you king friend know what sort of value I should put on it to list it o
Hello!
I just bought a lightly used silver Quickbeam that has the 175mm
cranks on it. I'd love to trade someone for a pair of the 170mm arms.
The pair I have are in excellent condition. I've only ridden the bike
once, and the previous owner put very few miles on it.
Thanks,
Dave
freshd...@gma
> It doesn't seem to me that Grant wants this bike to be
> seen as some retro/throwback rig that folks are gonna want to equip
> with 40-year-old parts. Rather the goal seems to be: let's show that a
> modern lugged steel frame can hold its own against the techno-whiz
> frames.
But why not give t
Howdy folks.
Places like W'ford do both batch production and truly custom one-at-a-time
builds as well. I am pretty sure the Roadeo and probably anything RBW has
built there is done in batches. I read a lot of framebuilder stuff on the
web and batches are much faster and easier, therefore frames
> I think Waterford will make any bike with DT mounts since they are all
> customs.
It just might be the case. For whatever reason, WF does not appear to
offer d/t mounts as an option on their site, however.
On Aug 28, 8:55 pm, Dan Abelson wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:42 PM, JoelMatthew
On Aug 26, 10:28 am, chris love wrote:
> Anybody have any experience with eliminating fork shudder with
> cantis? I'm running Tektro CR720's.
Yes, on my Surly LHT with the exact same brake as you. It developed
after a while, it wasn't there originally.
Drove me nuts. I played with toe-in, pad
I think the reason for the lack of DT mounts on both the Roadeo and
most W'fords may be that 'modern' DT's have short butted sections to
save some more weight. That would put the shifter boss on the thinner
belly of the tube, where the heat of brazing could weaken the tube a
bit too much for comf
I find that, for my tastes, touch up paints rarely match the existing
hue and/or quality of finish on bikes and it bothers me. I just use
clear nail polish on nicks to keep the oxygen off the metal.
However, like Bill said, there is an archive of tried and true touch
up colors.
On Aug 28, 10:
Items can be seen here: http://tinyurl.com/mdf8rm
Up for grabs:
Hobo bag I just bought but don't want to keep. A little dirty but no
holes, tears, etc. $88
Dove bars barely used. $21
Specialized triple crank 172.5mm. You can have the pedals if you want
'em, plus 52, 42 and 32 chainrings that
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:20 AM, J C wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to sell my wife's riv road- It has about 200 miles, campy
> record brakes, t/a triple crank, chorus elsewhere, cris king HS Mavic Open
> Pro wheel set. It is a Joe Bell painted bike in "split pea" and tusk.
>
> Do you king frie
There was a Joe/Joe AR that went for around $1500 a couple months ago
if memory serves. I thought that was a steal.
On Aug 28, 9:16 pm, David Estes wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:20 AM, J C wrote:
> > Hello,
>
> > I am trying to sell my wife's riv road- It has about 200 miles, campy
> > re
On Aug 28, 8:07 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
wrote:
> I find it hard to believe that not including the dt mounts is a simple
> cost saving measure, as this isn't intended to be a budget frame. I
> suspect that the primary reason is the dt bosses add weight, and that
> there isn't enough dem
I think Doug VC got it pretty right---about this being an alternative
to carbon bikes. It is specifically and intentionally from conception
to production a club-rider's bike. I know it's easy to see the steel
and lugs and think "A, Bob Jackson-ish" or "Just like my old
Raleigh Competition," bu
Rhode-O-Island
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:28 PM, grant wrote:
>
> I think Doug VC got it pretty right---about this being an alternative
> to carbon bikes. It is specifically and intentionally from conception
> to production a club-rider's bike. I know it's easy to see the steel
> and lugs and th
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