Can you be more specific about where the pain is? What size tires at
what pressures are you riding? I find that shifting my hands around a
lot helps (I don't get pain, but numbness sometimes). Try changing
your grip every few minutes. Different gloves that place the padding
in different places may
Actually this was an O24O, as we left at 9:30 am and I returned around
4 pm the next day. Kip met up with his family at our destination (Pun
Pun organic farm:http://www.punpunthailand.org/) and is staying a few
more days.
Photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/438962/
Kip had
I have a 62 in the queue, and have sold enough spare bike stuff and a
few other things to almost pay it off. (All that stuff I was saving
for a future classic lightweight build of some sort, that honestly
will never happen.) Seeing the badge makes me all the more certain
this one will be a true
First thing I'd try is sliding the saddle backwards as far as it will
go, and maybe angle the nose up a bit if it's not already. Then I'd
ditch the mbars at my earliest convenience and get a nice, wide noodle
bar. If it doesn't bother your knees, try riding in higher gears. The
more force you
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 23:13 -0800, Rene Sterental wrote:
I can't find a position where I will ride with no pain in my hands..
I've removed neck and shoulder pain after switching to Rivendell
bikes, but I can't get rid of the hand pain. Raising or lowering the
bar doesn't seem to make a
I concur with the other rreplies so far as well. I have ridden a few
bars and prefer the greater flair in the dorps of a dirt drop style
bar, helps me achieve the neutral position. The key is finding that
position for you. I also prefer the added thicknes of Soma's thick
and zesty tape. It is
That's kind of the way I'm feeling about my Rambouillet. I prefer my
Hilsen with its bigger, sturdier and more comfortable tires. Also, my
Rambouillet is smaller and feels smaller. Who knows, maybe I'll sell
the frame. Why hold on to it if I'm not riding it a lot? Although...
it's a beautiful
Yes, I think the Nitto Campee racks really complement the Orange
Hillborne well.
Although the placement of the rack mounts don't allow for a perfectly
level rack, it works pretty well and is super solid. The front rack
had to be shimmed a little to keep it from contacting the fork.
The
On Feb 24, 2010, at 1:13 AM, Rene Sterental wrote:
Can anybody offer more insight into what I might try doing to deal
with the pain in my hands?
Hand *pain* when riding is fairly unusual IME. Focal numbness is
common enough that there is a name for it: cyclist's palsy or
handlebar
I find that a butt back position supports more of my torso with the back
muscles and so puts less on my hands. Look at Peter Jon White's article on
fitting: he, too, recommends a butt back position.
FWIW, I have my bars 2 below saddle and I often ride in the hooks, and I
don't wear gloves (except
Awesome Story. The pictures are heartwarming.
Sounds like a great trip.
-Manny
On Feb 24, 1:27 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually this was an O24O, as we left at 9:30 am and I returned around
4 pm the next day. Kip met up with his family at our destination (Pun
Pun organic
I do ride it though, probably 20-25% of the time. Plus I have just right
which is kinda' nice...
Hm, tough call...
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 6:13 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
That's kind of the way I'm feeling about my Rambouillet. I prefer my
Hilsen with its bigger, sturdier and
What I think works well is to rubber cement an extra layer of leather across
the palm of some cycling gloves to spread out the pressure. Most of the so
called padding in cycling gloves is a joke.
--- On Wed, 2/24/10, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote:
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On Feb 24, 12:13 am, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
I can't find a position where I will ride with no pain in my hands.
Wow, I'll bet this is frustrating for you.
I was going to advise that you ditch the M-bars as well, but you
indicate that the AHH with noodles causes hand pain as
That's funny, as I know that you ride significantly faster than me.
Lanterne rouge!
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Dustin Sharp paleo.v...@gmail.com wrote:
110 riders or so. Nearly all of them faster than me!
On 2/23/10 7:15 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
I spotted that
...for the headbadge itself!
Nifty-est head badge ever for my money. When it comes to that money
thing, can't get another bike right now.
Bring on the marketing collateral.
Belt buckles?
Posters?
Cycling Caps?
A Hunquapillar Jersey?
Ok, I'll settle for the t-shirt.
-JimD
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On Feb 23, 3:39 pm, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles
is there no third water bottle mount on the hillborne? not that it
matters (for me, anyway) - just curious. seems like some AHHs have
'em . ... and the Hillborne is more tourer than that bike. does it
vary between production run, or just not an
yes esp. with those little guys encircling the badge... a cap or t-
shirt would be very nice.
I would love to get the actual bike but I just got a Sam Hillborne for
a similar purpose and I have a steel 29er hardtail MTB and my wife
would kill me ( best reason)!
Maybe, down the road, I sell the
I concur. I'm also enjoy Grant's post on the rivendell site. Always
look forward to some really good reading. In particular his post able
not riding as much. Always everything in moderation.
-Manny
On Feb 24, 8:08 am, JimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote:
...for the headbadge itself!
Nifty-est
Besides what everyone else's good advice, it can only help to do crunches to
build the strength of your abdominal core.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote:
On Feb 24, 2010, at 1:13 AM, Rene Sterental wrote:
Can anybody offer more insight into what I
As I understand it, the best location for a front load isn't necessarily
lower, but primarily it should be closer to the steering axis. If you move
a bag lower, it gets closer to the steering axis. If you look at front
pannier racks, the center of the loaded pannier usually falls in line with
I just acquired an Atlantis with huge Big Apple balloons. Very
comfy. Was this frame made in Japan by Toyo? When did RBW stop
importing them?
George learning to appreciate big, wide tiresS
New Orleans
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Keep it and buy a Hunka? That would be four Rivs for you. That's
reasonable considering how much you ride.
On Feb 24, 7:49 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
I do ride it though, probably 20-25% of the time. Plus I have just right
which is kinda' nice...
Hm, tough call...
A saddle note that I did not see mentioned yet, pull the nose up, leaving a
flattish area to plunk your sit bones on. Rotates body weight off your hands
and arms and onto the saddle. If you scroll through the Cyclofiend galleries,
you will see many bikes set up that way. (Caveat: This is based
As far as I know, there are only two on the Hillborne. At least the
one's I've seen so far only have two. Including mine.
On bikes with a third mount, usually end up putting my pump on there
instead.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Feb 24, 11:06 am, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote:
On Feb 23,
Yes, made in Japan by Toyo. They stopped importing them last year.
The dollar/yen issue got to be too lopsided to make sense financially.
Enjoy the bike!
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Feb 24, 11:24 am, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote:
I just acquired an Atlantis with huge Big Apple balloons.
Brian
Another beautiful build from Renaissance very sharp! love the Orange
Sam more every time I see itnow when are we gonna see the grand
finale of the Murphy's Law Project?
Ryan waiting for the Collegiate reveal Surface ;-)
On Feb 24, 9:06 am, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote:
On Feb
I too struggled a bit with hand pain on traditional drop bars last
year after exclusively riding flared drops (on-one midges) for a
while. In the end, the thing that fixed it for me was rotating the
whole bar backwards (so that the end of the bar points downwards,
roughly towards the rear hub).
It's interesting that you get less hand pain when you are not wearing
gloves. I don't know if this will help, but here some things I've noticed:
I have relatively large palms and stubby fingers. The most hand pain I ever
experienced was when I set up a pair of thick and soft Ourey grips on a
Also, IME _a slight_ rotation of the bars to change the angles can make a
huge difference in wrist issues. Seems especially true with Moustache bars.
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On Feb 24, 11:24 am, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote:
I just acquired an Atlantis with huge Big Apple balloons. Very
comfy. Was this frame made in Japan by Toyo? When did RBW stop
importing them?
Some of the issues covered here:
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/
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Selle Anatomica designer has some very good adjustment guidelines to
follow-
Basically, saddle should sit so when seated and crank parallel with
ground-edge of knee cap is directly above pedal spindle.
With this position, stem can be adjusted/ changed to put tip of your
nose approx.
over the
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:
Aesthetics (and Grant's writing on the Noodle) tells us that perfectly
level tops are the best neutral position but i find that
biomechanically i'm still sliding forward on a level bar, that only
when it's slanted back
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com
wrote:
Aesthetics (and Grant's writing on the Noodle) tells us that perfectly
level tops are the best neutral position but i find that
I suppose the title pretty much sums it up. I want to go with a dirt
drop on my Bomba and have the bullmoose to trade.
Drop me a line, lets trade recipes!
Brad - Denver CO
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If you can't find any positions that are comfortable, you need better
advice than you can get off the internet. If it's as much as a problem
as it sounds, your bicycling position may alleviate discomfort but
it's not going to fix the problem. Taking most of the weight off by
using Albatross bars
On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 11:20 -0800, Jim M. wrote:
If you can't find any positions that are comfortable, you need better
advice than you can get off the internet. If it's as much as a problem
as it sounds, your bicycling position may alleviate discomfort but
it's not going to fix the problem.
+1 on sliding the seat back as far as possible. If you have a Brooks
and a seatpost with vaguely 'normal' setback, I'd urge you to try a
seatpost with more setback. The S-83 appears to have a fair amount.
Velo Orange sells a $50 one that was specifically designed to get more
setback on
Everything in moderation...including moderation.
2-3 weeks till MFRD!! (My First Riv Day!)
On Feb 24, 9:10 am, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
wrote:
I concur. I'm also enjoy Grant's post on the rivendell site. Always
look forward to some really good reading. In particular his
Doesn't Grant have an article about 'how many bikes?' I think he
settled out at recommending 7 for any reasonable cyclist:
1. Light road bike
2. Comfy road bike
3. Touring bike
4. Bomber touring bike
5. City/commute bike
6. Singlespeed
7. Work in progress
For me, I pared way down to only
I thought he settled on 9 in the current Reader at page 6:
http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/212/original_RR42.pdf .
How many bikes?
Seven is good. A beater, a
bomber, a single-speed, a touring
bike, a lightish road bike, a
do-all racked and bagged bike,
a mixte, a loaner, and a work in
I agree that closer to the axis of rotation should be better since it
minimizes the moment of inertia. This suggests that less rotation of a front
bag is better. In that case, here in the RBW world that there are bikes with
high handlebars and tall headtubes such that it would be feasible
Hi, I've been a member for awhile, but don't post a lot. (Just to let
you know I'm not trying to work the list.)
Anyway, I am currently building up a RockCombo, and I'm looking for a
bar. These came with the Specialized-branded WTB Dirt Drop bar, but I
don't really want to go with the stock bar
on 2/24/10 10:16 AM, muckum at toddjeffr...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Selle Anatomica designer has some very good adjustment guidelines to
follow-
Basically, saddle should sit so when seated and crank parallel with
ground-edge of knee cap is directly above pedal spindle.
This is known as KOPS -
on 2/24/10 1:54 PM, Mike at mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
9!!! And here I was feeling bad about 4.
How many bikes?
Seven is good. A beater, a
bomber, a single-speed, a touring
bike, a lightish road bike, a
do-all racked and bagged bike,
a mixte, a loaner, and a work in
progress. seven? Make
For the non-woodworkers among us:
http://www.shopsmith.com/
Check out the marketing line:
The five most needed tools --
all in the space of a bicycle.
Maybe the Hunqapillar spin could be:
The five most needed bikes -
all in the space of a Shop Smith.
On Feb 24, 5:40 pm, Marty
What was the problem with the bullmoose bars?
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:13 PM, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:
I suppose the title pretty much sums it up. I want to go with a dirt
drop on my Bomba and have the bullmoose to trade.
Drop me a line, lets trade recipes!
Brad - Denver CO
For those of us who did not get it correct, or were not in the first
10-20, or both, could someone who got it correct and fast enough
please post the correct answer?
Thanks, David
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Check the Riv site. The answer is posted there.
On Feb 24, 4:13 pm, carnerda...@bellsouth.net
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For those of us who did not get it correct, or were not in the first
10-20, or both, could someone who got it correct and fast enough
please post the correct answer?
!!
http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/roadeo-specials/40-010
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Sorry. Thought I had looked carefully, but was looking in news of the
day and probably failed to scroll down to the knot hole.
Brad Gantt wrote:
Check the Riv site. The answer is posted there.
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For those of us
Check the Rivendell News: http://www.rivbike.com
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No problem at all! I actually think the position is great for mountain
biking. But since I picked up an X0-3 that will do my MTB duties, I
wanted to rework the Bomba into something I don't have...a drop bar
knobby, all rounder!!
I thought a dirt drop would fit the bill nicely! If I can't find
Keven's set up is perfection! Lovin' the tape-over-cork. It's going to
be fun seeing what everyone's entry will be!
On Feb 24, 7:55 pm, Dave S. dave...@gmail.com wrote:
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I got a $20 credit for the right answer. 15 trilobites plus a wooly
mammoth. That's 1% of my Bombadil frame!
On Feb 24, 4:54 pm, carnerda...@bellsouth.net
carnerda...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Sorry. Thought I had looked carefully, but was looking in news of the
day and probably failed to scroll
Gotta agree with Steve here. On my recently sold Atlantis, set up
with Albatross bars, did have the occasional bout of hand pain.
Rene, I feel for you. Hand pain (numbness) made me give up riding for
many years. Even now, it will flare up. The Rivendell summer gloves
seem to be evenly padded
Here's what I'm using for dirt.
http://www.wtb.com/products/components/handlebar/mountainroaddropbar/
Gary
On Feb 24, 5:00 pm, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:
No problem at all! I actually think the position is great for mountain
biking. But since I picked up an X0-3 that will do my MTB
Might not need to trade. Jim at Hiawatha showed me a catalog couple
of weeks ago with the Nitto Dirt Drop bars back in production(!).
(That combo is on my list for the Hunqapillar. Have the stem
already.)
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Feb 24, 7:00�pm, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:
No problem
Am going to make myself get by with two until the Hunqa arrives.
Figure don't want/need a road bike. My Hillborne country bike and
LHT set up for touring/rough riding. Will do.
Unless the compelling need arises to have a folding 3 speed. Then the
Brompton comes out.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
My winning answer was applied to the Hunqapillar I ordered yesterday.
Seems appropriate, somehow.
Gloat - have a plaster cast of a four inch long prehistoric
trilobite. Presented to us by Dinosaur Bob Professor Robert E
Sloan.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Feb 24, 7:19�pm, William
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:
Keven's set up is perfection! Lovin' the tape-over-cork. It's going to
be fun seeing what everyone's entry will be!
wow,
that bombadil is stunning! That is NOT what I think of most of the
bombadils looked like. That's impressive.
I wish... it's all just an illusion...
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
Keep it and buy a Hunka? That would be four Rivs for you. That's
reasonable considering how much you ride.
On Feb 24, 7:49 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
I do ride it
I like my dirt bikes with drops, too, set up considerably higher than for
the road and using wider bars. I've tried most of the dirt specific drops
there are, including Noodles, and finally settled on Salsa Bell Laps, 46 cm.
The shallow drop and short reach helps make up for the excessively long
Gary,
I checked into that bar actually, and along with being black, they do
not accept bar end shifters. Not sure about the ergo hump in the drop
portion, but it might be comfy?
EricP,
It would seem like a no brainer for nitto to make more...it seems
there are several companies making homages
Eric
I use Campy ergo shifters with Jtek adapter on full XTR with that drop
bar. So I never considered barends. It is comfy for me.
Gary
On Feb 24, 6:23 pm, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:
Gary,
I checked into that bar actually, and along with being black, they do
not accept bar end
I am just a bit taller than Grant, so it appears the auction Bomb is
one size too big for me. That is among the best looking Rivs I have
ever seen. Wow.
On Feb 24, 7:56 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:
Keven's set up is
Man that thing is soo nice. The paint and nickel-finish on the
bars are stunning. I like the 40-24t rings idea. I have the same
crank on my bombadil but with stock 40-32, and I think with more stuff
to haul, it could definitely be lower sometimes.
On Feb 24, 7:55 pm, Dave S.
Man that thing is soo nice. The paint and nickel-finish on the
bars looks mint. I like the 40-24t rings idea. I have the same
crank on my bombadil but with stock 40-32, and I think with more stuff
to haul, it could definitely be lower sometimes.
On Feb 24, 7:55 pm, Dave S.
That bike is just crying for a nice set of metal fenders, IMO.
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If you are considering a platrack I'd suggest getting some twine and shellac
ready. I recently treated myself to the platrack/SlickerSack combination,
which I love btw, and then noticed a couple of areas on my down tube where
the paint had been chipped off. Since there was a spot on both sides of
'Butt back' as so many have recommended may help take weight off of
your hands, but may also require an extra degree of flexibility if it
makes you stretch too far forward to meet the bars. I have been there
and (after getting a detailed professional bike fitting) wound up
moving back forward
Drilling a stopper hole at the end of the crack can be very
effective. To reinforce the area, I'd recommend using a thin piece of
bendable plastic that can conform to the inside of the fender. Maybe
a piece of a plastic milk jug would work? Glue it into place with an
epoxy that is formulated
Thank goodness it is several sizes too small for me...but boy does it give
me some ideas. I really do need a bike with gears. :-)
Aloha! Bob
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:45 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
I am just a bit taller than Grant, so it appears the auction Bomb is
one size
Roy:
That's a question that I also had, so I did a bit of fiddling on the
answer. I took a standard rear trunk bag, appox length width of a
rear rack, and mounted on the small Nitto front rack. Lead dive
weights are handy for these experiments since the weight can be
concentrated in a small
Hhm,
I thought I noticed this frame quietly disappearing from the frame
specials section of the website. It was my favorite color there,
though the 48cm white with gold looks great, too.
Joel, not sure it's too big for you. ;) I am shorter than Grant and
ride Kip's 56cm Bomba with no problem
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